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A89881	Interest will not lie. Or, a view of England's true interest: in reference to the [brace] papist, royalist, Presbyterian, baptised, neuter, Army, Parliament, City of London. In refutation of a treasonable pamphlet, entituled, The interest of England stated. Wherein the author of it pretends to discover a way, how to satisfie all parties before-mentioned, and provide for the publick good, by calling in the son of the late King, &c. Against whom it is here proved, that it is really the interest of every party (except only the papist) to keep him out: and whatever hath been objected by Mr. William Pryn, or other malcontents, in order to the restoring of that family, or against the legality of this Parliament's sitting, is here answer'd by arguments drawn from Mr Baxter's late book called A holy commonwealth, for the satisfaction of them of the Presbyterian way; and from writings of the most learned royalists, to convince those of the royal party. By Mar. Nedham.	Nedham, Marchamont, 1620-1678.	1659 (1659)	Wing N392; Thomason E763_5; ESTC R202968	47,454	45

Government such as may be most convenient for the Nation Which being once done it becomes as valid de Jure that is to say as Legal as the former form of Government ever was But because you shall not depend upon my single Inference you shall have one or two more Testimonies from Mr. Baxter's friend Grotius He saith if the Prevailing party had no other Law but the Law of Necessity it might serve well enough to justifie such a Proceeding Necessit as summa reducit res ad merum Jus Naturae Grot. de Jure Belli l. 2. cap. 6. And in his Prolegomena he saith In beslo Civili scripta quidem Jura c. In a Civil war written Laws that is the established Laws of a Nation are of no force but those only which are not written that is which are agreeable to the Dictates of Nature or the Law and Custom of Nations and then that only is to be admitted Law which shall be setled by the Prevailing party Jus dicitur esse id quod validiori placuit ut intelligamus fine suo carere Jus nisi vires ministras habeat the English whereof is That only which it pleaseth the stronger party to ordain is said to be Law since it cannot accomplish the end of a Law except it be attended by Force to constrain obedience And as to the particular Case of the secluded Members he hath one saying which hits our purpose right Si qui jure suo uti non possunt eorum jus accrescit praesentibus l. 2. c. 5. His busines in that part of the Chapter is to discourse about the Major Vote in Senates or grand Assemblies and concludes That in case the greater number be absent or if there be any cause that they may not use their Right there then the whole Right accrueth to them that are present or remain sitting What cause there was for the secluding of these Members I think you have sufficiently seen in the beginning of this Section They had joyned issue in Interest and design with the Royal party and the King who according to what hath been already conceded was a publick Enemy So also did the House of Lords who likewise lost all Right that they could pretend to by compliance with the same Interest and design For seeing by the Equity of all Laws Accessaries are as punishable as the Principal in a Crime therefore by the Law of War it being a Law of their own introducing and no other Law remaining to be Judge in the Case both They and the secluded Members for adhering to the Conquered party even after the Victory might have been proceeded against in capital manner but were favorably as well as justly dealt with in being deprived only of their Interest in the House whenas their heads might have been required and so the whole Supreme Authority descended lawfully to those Members that now remain But here some may interpose and say We imagined and expected that the Laws of the Land should be maintained and Free Parliaments but this doctrine talks of the longest sword and a Prevailing party maintaining that the strongest must carry it which is the way to lay a ground for and to encourage disorders and confusions so that they which can get uppermost by force are still to be justified by the same Rule This language I know is frequently in the mouths of the undiscerning sort yea and of some too who think themselves very wise That I may make some Return to this sort of people and instruct them well they must learn first to distinguish between Force used without good cause and an use of Force upon a just cause or occasion Also betwixt the exercise of force by such as have a Right of war and by those who have it not Also betwixt the Nation in a State of Warr and the Nation in a State of Peace Lastly betwixt the Laws which are fundamental to the Form or Constitution it self of a Government and the Laws Municipal which concern the Rights Liberties and Priviledges of a People under the same Government I. Seeing that to all Sword-engagements a good Cause is requisite then none can hereafter take example or occasion from this rational discourse to have recourse to the sword and afterward to improve it as this Parliament did unless they shall be able to ground the undertaking as they did upon righteous principles which have been acknowledged such as you read before even by Royalists and Presbyterians themselves nor unless they shall have the same just reasons to make use of the Law of Warr which in such Case becomes the Law of all Nations to proceed to a final Arbitration of the Quarrell after that the Adversaries themselves have admitted it and rendred the ending of the Contest both impractcable and impossible by any Law of the Nation II. Those who intend to use the Sword or the Law of Warr cannot lawfully doe it unless they can rightly claim Jus Belli and have a Right to that Law as the Parliament had when the King grasping at the whole Soveraignty they were necessitated to desend that part of it which by the National Constitution belonged unto themselves as hath already been confessed by both sorts of Adversaries III. Consider this can afford no matter of Argument for Rebellions and Insurrections for if in such a contest of War as this was in England the Parliament had a right to War the King having occasioned the Nation to be in a state of War it doth not therefore follow that in the state of peace private persons or any number of persons less qualified than a Parliament should presume to do what a Parliament might do either in or out of a state of War or that a part of a Parliament should hereafter take upon them to make War and exclude their Fellow Members and then exercise the whole Supremacy without and against the consent of those Members unless the great Platonick year shall revolve and revive the like Causes Occasions and Circumstances of Acting and the same Treachery also in Fellow Members for betraying the Supreme power into the hands of some third party or single person In the like extraordinary Case the like proceeding may lawfully be again but not otherwise for when after a Civil War a Government is once again established in peace all men and powers are to steer their course of acting by the ordinary Laws and Rules of the Constitution IV. As touching the great Objection about our Laws consider that though the old Fundamental which respecteth the former Form or Constitution of Government be altered yet the other ancient Laws Municipal which concern our Rights Liberties Priviledges and Properties do remain entire unto the generality of the Nation and they might be more sensible of the truth of this did not the designs of disturbers hinder the compleat enjoyment or else will shortly be setled entire in that state of Freedom which the Parliament is once again strugling for against the

man get in who is heir to the principles as well as the pretensions of his family And what a friend that Family hath been to Religion and its Professors is worthy of your most serious consideration If we view them in their English Extraction the Book of Martyrs will tell you how the Sluces of Blood were opened by King Henry and his Daughter Mary If we look on the Scotish side it is sad to consider how much blood was spilt by her of the House of Lorraine who was our King James his Grandmother She being gone her Daughter King James his Mother Mary a fierce Papist succeeded who after she had massacred her own Husband the Father of James by poison Gun-powder and halter for the love she bare to Davie and Earl Bothwel her Adulterers persecuted all of the Reformed Religion endeavored to poison James her own Son shed blood likewise by raising Civil War at home against her Protestant Subjects and conspired with forein Papists to destroy Queen Elizabeth For all which God found her out and gave her a due reward by the loss of her head in Fotheringay Castle The next was King JAMES who wrote his Beati Pacifici in blood too For to say nothing of the death of Overbury which blood he took upon himself by pardoning the Murtherers nor of that of Raleigh meerly to serve a turn of State it is well known his son Henry came to an untimely death and though it be not directly known by what hand he was taken away yet as a late Historian observes there was a strange connivence and little mourning at Court after it was done To these may be added not unjustly the Blood of the poor Protestants in Germany which must be laid upon the score of that Family for had K. James performed the duty of a good Protestant or a loving Father he might if he had pleased have presently stopt the Issue that ran there 30 years together I might insist likewise upon his son the late Kings betraying the Protestant Cause also in Germany and throughout France especially at Rochel where under a fained pretence of assisting the Protestants with ships c. he gave order to his shipping to serve on the contrary side to the utter ruine of that Cause and Party in France and the loss of many gallant English-men's lives by him exposed to destruction for when Buckingham was questioned for it in Parliament the King himself to signifie to all the world that what his Favorite had done was by his own approbation stept between the Duke and the Parliament and so took the guilt of all upon himself All which most treacherous Actions towards them of our Religion abroad were in those daies and have been ever since resented by all the Protestants throughout Europe and the present exclusion of that Family is lookt on now by the most pious of the Nations round about as a just recompence which they have long expected to fall from the hand of God upon the Family for the Treachery of their Fathers toward his Church and people But that which exceeds all comparison is their guilt in reference to the barbarous Massacre in Ireland No more of this but that it cannot be imagined any Religious man who hath heard of these things should imbarque himself with such a Family the guilt whereof hath hitherto sunk all the partakers I might likewise add the Negotiations of the Young man that now is with the Pope by his Agents at Rome Copies whereof I have by me in Italian Latine and French and shall in due time publish them Thirdly if Religion cannot move ye what thinke ye of your Liberties and the Nations Liberties Promises are but Baits that may draw you to the Net The Chronicles will tell you that when K. John had granted Magna Charta and Charta Forestae because he could not help it and 25 persons were chosen as Trustees for the people in the Government yet the King after a short time worm'd them out of all power and undid all that he had done before and was revenged at last upon them all The like misery fell out by trusting Henry the Third who having warred with his people they got the better one while and the another and these vicissitudes were frequent betwixt them and all that the people gained by trusting him was the better learning of this Lesson Put no confidence in Princes for at every turn no sooner did he by subtilty get the Power but he fell heavy upon those that had opposed him especially the Londoners whose Charter he called in and all his daies after made them examples of his vengeance the like he did to the other Corporations So Richard the second becau●e the Londoners had opposed him as soon as he got opportunity he cusrtailed their priviledges and placed continuall marks of his displeasure upon them I need not instance how neer Edward the First was to have burned the City upon the same account after he had plagued it over and over because I would not be tedious in particularising these or in citing other Instances out of our own stories which every one may read at leisure Fourthly admit that Charls himself would be of his own inclination better than his Predecessors yet his party are hungry and will not be satisfied And he having occasion to use them must not denie them their pleasure but must above all things keep his own party in heart else they will not be firm to him and so he may be exposed to danger from all other parties whom it will be his Interest to hold under that they may never be in condition again to lift him out of the saddle No doubt but he and they will remember his Fathers words in a particular manner The pride and power of the City of London Fifthly as to the pretended Title of this young man pray you what is it It will be found upon search like all the rest of the Titles founded upon usurpation one after another since the Conquest If we look up to Henry the Seventh its original there will be little cause to admire it for he only descended from a Bastard of John of Gaunt who though ligitimated for Common Inheritances yet was expresly excluded by Law from Succession to the Crown And as for his Wives Title you know he never thought that worth the using and yet from this spurious slip of the Lancastrian Root it was that King James derived his Claim and that but collaterally or at Second Hand being in effect a meer Stranger in blood to the English whereupon we may justly wonder what Policy guided this Nation in those days when it so strangely bowed down its Neck to the Yoak of a Stranger But admit this Title had been without Flaws in its derivation yet this Man's Fathers Treasons and his own as is proved in the former Section have most deservedly caused the cutting off the Entaile Besides it is evident what a Governor for you this Pretender would prove who suckt in his Fathers Principles with his Mothers milk hath been bred up under the Wings of Prelacie and Popery and as he suck't both brests heretofore so he hangs upon them both at this very day One who from the beginning was engaged against the Cause of the Commonwealth and your City and who hath the same Counsellers his Father had besides a more intimate acquaintance acquired beyond Sea with the Jesuits to remember him both of the old Designe and the ways to effect it one who hath been bedabled in the Blood of England Scotland and Ireland and hath both his Father's and his own Scores to clear out of your Purses and hath long made it his Business to cajole and cheat all parties in hope thereby to get in upon us with a desperate Rabble at his heels to execute his Revenges What shall we say then of such men that now make shipwrack of their own Principles to seek to let him in and would be opening sluces of blood out of their Countrimen and nearest Relations for the Interest of their own and the publick Enemy Lastly as to what concerns your Trade its easie to guess what will become of that when it shall be counted Reason of State to keep you poor and low For the inference is ready at hand for him viz. That if the Father complained of Pride and Power in you and hath recorded that from thence proceeded the first Causes of his ruine then the son is concerned to pull down your pride if I may use the Royal phrase and hold a strong hand over you And how do you think Trade can thrive upon his restitution when as you may read in the third fourth and fifth Sections there will be a necessity of trebling Taxes and perpetuating of them past remedie to maintaine another kind of Army than we have now to tame dissenting Parties and to keep the Nation in an asinine posture of submission to bear all burthens that shall be laid either upon the Estate or the Conscience by the Lords of the Court and the Lordanes of Episcopacie As Trade therefore is the particular Interest of your City so be wary that the want of it at present do not irritate you to fall out with the publick Interest of your Country but remember that it being once setled Trade and all other Concernments will soon flourish again and that the way to settlement must be as our Author well said by giving satisfaction to all parties which as I have before manifested from his own words cannot be expected from C Stuart and his party but may and will be easily had from the way of a free Common-wealth so that all we have to doe is to stick close to the Parliament that they may be enabled to establish it and employ our utmost to keep him out because otherwise war will follow and that will inevitably bring on a destruction of Trade with the ruine of Religion Liberty and your Renowned City All which may prosper if ye please 'T is you that have given all this Pail of good Milk and what a thing would it be that any of you should aim to kick it down in the dirt En quò discordia Cives Perducet miseros Westminster Aug. 12. 1669. FINIS

Interest will not Lie Or a View of ENGLAND'S True Interest In reference to the PAPIST ROYALIST PRESBYTERIAN BAPTISED NEUTER ARMY PARLIAMENT City of LONDON In refutation of a treasonable Pamphlet entituled The Interest of England stated Wherein the Author of it pretends to discover a way how to satisfie all Parties before-mentioned and provide for the Publick Good by calling in the Son of the late King c. Against whom it is here proved That it is really the Interest of every Party except only the Papist to keep him out And whatever hath been objected by Mr. William Pryn or other Malcontents in order to the restoring of that Family or against the legality of this Parliament's sitting is here answer'd by Arguments drawn from Mr Baxter's late Book called A Holy Commonwealth for the satisfaction of them of the Presbyterian way and from Writings of the most learned Royalists to convince those of the Royal Party By MAR. NEDHAM London Printed by Tho. Newcomb dwelling over-against Bainards-Castle in Thames-street 1659. Interest will not lie Or A View of ENGLAND'S True Interest c. The Preamble IT is a Maxim among Politicians That Interest will not lie Which prudential saying hath a twofold sense the improving whereof is very useful to a man either in the conduct of his own Affairs or in discerning the conduct and end of the Affairs and enterprises of other men One sense of it may be this That if you can apprehend wherein a man's Interest to any particular Game on foot doth consist you may surely know if the man be prudent whereabout to have him that is how to judge of his designe For which way soever you foresee his Interest doth in prudence dispose him that way provided he be so wise as to understand his own Concernment he will be sure to go and so his Interest provided also that in your calculation thereof you be not mistaken will not lie to you it will not deceive you in your judgement concerning the mans Intents and Proceedings The other sense of that Maxim is That if a man state his own Interest aright and keep close to it it wil not lie to him or deceive him in the prosecution of his Aims and ends of Good unto himself nor suffer him to be missed or drawn aside by specious pretences to serve the ends and purposes of other men This being so and Designs being now generally laid to engage the People a new in blood and confusion and this fawning Pamphlet having for the same cause been dispersed throughout the Three Nations it was necessary for the right information of our Countrimen of all Parties to give them a view of their true Interests for fear lest by this and the other treasonable Papers which fly up and down or through the slie insinuations and perswasions of cunning men any one Party should happen to be seduced from a right understanding of their Interest at such a time as this and imbarque themselves for the Interest of a Publick Enemy upon supposition of attaining thereby their own and the Publick welfare Therefore give me leave to trace and overtake the Deceiver I mean this Author in his own Method in the prosecution whereof I shall endeavor to manifest That as it is a main Point of Interest among the Grandee-Cavaliers both here and beyond-sea by spreading Libels false Rumors fair Promises subtile Arguments of Perswasion and all other waies imaginable to rub mens discontents and bewitch their senses that they may not be able to discern their own Concernments So on the other side We who are the People of all Parties considering that those Cavalier-Grandees are concerned to draw us in if they can to do their drudgery in War at the hazard of our Necks ought to conceive it a principal part of our Interest to understand theirs and not to suffer our selves to be trepann'd by fine pretences and devices to venture our own bloods and shed the blood of others for the erecting of their greatness upon our own particular and the general Ruine And because this Author saith one thing well That the real go●d of the Nation consists not in the private benefit of single men but the advantage of the Publi●k and that it is made up not by the welfare of any one Party but of all Therefore when I have made it appear by scanning the Interests and Concernments of all Parties among us that no one party no not the Royalists themselves except only the Papist can hope for any good by the restitution of Charls Stuart but must necessarily partake in the common calamity as well as others then I suppose the Conclusion will naturally follow That it is the Interest of all to keep him out SECTION I. Of the Papist whom our Author calls by the more splendid name of Roman Catholick HIs words are these T is the Interest of the Roman Catholicks to bring in the King for by that means the heavy paiments now on their estates with other burthens will be taken off And as to the pressures of Penal Laws they cannot but remember how far from grievous they were in the late Kings time the Catholicks living here notwithstanding them in more flourishing condition than those of France Italy or Spain did under their respective Princes and would do infinitely more under their natural King than if any Foreiner should acquire the Power by Conquest Besides they generally having adhered to the late King in his Wars have no reason to distrust a favorable treatment from his Son 'T is well done of our Author to speak out and what he saith we will easily grant for the Papists cannot deny their own Interest so far as not to endevour by all means imaginable to restore the Son who hath made as fair professions to the Pope as ever the Father did and no doubt he would were he restored as really perform them We cannot forget what Transactions passed betwixt his Father and the Court of Rome at the time of his being in Spain and what a Letter of assurance he then wrote to his Holines nor how both the Father and Grandfather betrayed the Protestan Cause in Germany France and all over the world and how that to make way for Popery Superstition was countenanced Papists preferred to greatest places of Trust and were in greatest credit at Court while the best sort of Professors were forced to quite the Nation and retire into wildernesses in another world But to encourage Papists they as our Author saith had all burthens taken away from them and lived here in a more flourishing condition than those of France Italy or Spain did in their own countries He doth well also to remember us how close they stuck to the late King in his wars and we cannot forget that they had reason considering how close he stuck to them They know how it came about that some Hundred thousands of Protestants were by unheard of and most inhumane butcheries offered up in sacrifice

should make so that had they had their purpose the whole Cause Parliamentary and its faithful friends must have been clearly betrayed into his hands But it must not be forgotten how craftily they went to work for the completing of their design and it is the more needful to revive the proceedings because the same spirit appears at work again in the like method by those who have now taken Arms those who favor the present treasonable undertaking Their method I say and pretences appear one and the same for those did what they could to irritate and engage the Citie of London In all Counties they had their Emissaries and Agents concurring with those employed by the King to form new Insurrections which you know afterwards brake forth all over the Nation and to usher in these the people were stirred up to frame Petitions all cloathed in fine language with fair pretences viz. That they might have a full and free Parliament they pretended for the Liberty of the Subject also to free them from the oppression of an Army and to be for the Law of the Land against the arbitra y power of a Faction in Parliament setting up and supporting themselves above Law by the power of an Army They pretended likewise to be much for the ease of the people to free them from Taxes and Contributions to an Army and to be for settlement that there might be no need of an Army They pretended for Religion too against Sectaries yea and that no pretence might be wanting they pretended for the army it self also as to the body of it That all but a Faction of some Officers might be satisfied their Arrears Pray you now compare these pretences with those published by the present Rebels in Cheshire and the language of those that savor them in other places and judg whether the spirit of the same corrupt party be not now at work again by new Instruments who would likewise if they might have their ways give up not onely the present Parliament but with it the whole Parliamentary interest of the Nation and all men of all parties yea and themselves to be disposed of at the will of the Son for what can hinder that Sea of boundless tyranny from overflowing when the breach is once made and he let in just as the other would by bringing on a Personal Treaty to conclude with the Father have yeilded all up to his pleasure Actors you see are now on foot again disguised and cloathed with the very same pretences and therefore what can be more clear than that these men are studying to bring the Yong Man upon the stage to perfect the Tragedy which was plotted so many years ago in that endeavor for a restitution of his Father which would assuredly have been compleated in an absolute Tyranny had not the Army then taken up a noble resolution to prevent it by secluding that desperate party which ruled at that time in Parliament So much though much more might be said for the justice and necessitie of the Seclusion 2. Let us see how the remaining Members behaved themselves upon this Occasion They did not as Mr. Pryn and our Author and others have scandalized them drive away their Fellow-Members nor encourage the Army to do it as Mr. Pryn and his fellows had before encouraged the Apprentices to drive away the Speaker and the best part of the Members but when the Seclusion was made the House presently sent out the Serjeant with the Mace to the place called the Queens Court where those Members were then detained to command their Attendance in the House but the Guards of Souldiers would not permit them to come So the Serjeant was sent out a second time and then the Officers would not permit him to pass which was entred as a Contempt in the Journal-Book they being startled at the sudden force upon the House and therefore they concluded also not to proceed in business until their Members should be restored and in the mean time ordered That the General be sent to that the House might know the reason of the Armies so proceeding Which being done the General and Council of Officers sending to the House their Reasons which necessitated them to the Action and manifesting therein That there was no other way to preserve the Rights and Interests of the Nation which those Members had laboured to destroy thereupon the House who of their own knowledge could tell the particulars charged were true being earnestly importuned by the Army That they would proceed to save the Nation and secure the good Cause they had fought for against the King and his Party chose to sit notwithstanding all the difficulties and clouds of envy that were gathering over their heads and to proceed towards the Nations settlement in such a way as God in his Providence according to his Will should direct them rather than desert their Trusts not consulting therein with Flesh and Blood which because of the hazard of their own personal concernments might have taken them off but with a Good Cause and the common Good which then lay at stake and had been utterly lost if those Secluded ones might have had their wills who now again make it their business by clamours to set the world on fire about their ears care not though themselvs perish at last in the combustion 3. Let us see the Reason why it is that being once Secluded they have never since been admitted and are still kept out The Reasons are evident for they were no sooner Excluded but they went on Plotting and contriving as a distinct Assembly without the House to carry on their design as they did before within To this purpose they joynely put forth a Declaration Entituled A Solemn Protestation against the House and the Army declaring all void and null that should be done their absence and inflamed Mr. Pryn a necessary Tool of the Party because be can say and Print any thing for them and yet not be in danger of his head who put forth in his own name a violent virulent Protestation against the House the Army their Cause and all Proceedings and divers other fierce Papers he hath let flie from time to time so did his Parry also the like under the Title of Declarations c. And to this day they have never omitted any occasion they could lay hold on to justifie themselves and revive that destructive design for which they were at first Secluded this is enough to shew There was and is reason to keep them out of the House still Unless any will imagine it reasonable they should be re-Admitted to take an opportunity which they can never otherwise have for the finishing of that mischief which they like a sort of Madmen by restoring the Ejected Family would bring not only upon the Parliament and the well-affected but on all Parties of men yea and themselves in conclusion as they may sufficiently perceive if God gives them hearts to weigh what hath