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A90872	A true and faithfull narrative (for substance) of a publique dispute between Mr. Tho. Porter, & Mr. Hen. Haggar; concerning infant-Baptism. In the parish church of Ellesmer in the county of Salop, on the 30 of April, 1656. / By one who was present at, and a diligent observer of, the debate.	Porter, Thomas, d. 1667.; Haggar, Henry.	1656 (1656)	Wing P2998F; Thomason E887_1; ESTC R207352	16,499	27

A True and Faithfull NARRATIVE for substance Of a Publique Dispute BETWEEN Mr. Tho. Porter Mr. Hen. Haggar CONCERNING INFANT-BAPTISM In the Parish Church of Ellesmer in the County of Salop on the 30 of April 1656. By one who was present at and a diligent observer of the Debate ROM 16.17 18. Now I beseech you brethren marke them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own belly and By good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple Nemo est qui non videat Paedobaptismum nequaquam humanitus fabrefactum fuisse qui Tanta Scripturae approbatione fulciatur Nec satis speciose nugantur qui objiciunt nusquam reperiri vel unum Infantem per Apostolorum manus fuisse baptizatum Etsi enim id Nominatim ab Evangelistis non narratur quia tamen neque rursum excludantur i●…i quoties familiae alicujus baptizatae incidit mentio quis inde nisi Insanus raticcinetur non fuisse baptizatos Quod autem apud simplicem vulgum disseminant longam annorum seriem post Christi Resurrectionem praeteriisse quibus incognitus erat Paedobaptismus In co foedissime mentiuntur siquidem nullus scriptor tam vetustus qui non ejus Originem ad Apostolorum seculum Pro certo referat Calv. Instit Lib. 4. Cap. 16. Sect. 8. LONDON Printed for John Clark at the Entrance into Mercers-Chappel at the lower end of Cheapside 1656. An Advertisement to the Readers READERS WHether friends or foes staggering or setled I though it not only expedient but needfull having had perfect understanding of all things concerning the debate from the first to acquaint you with the occasion of this Contest and the rather that some things here may be hinted which could not be so conveniently set down in the body of the Narrative Mr. Porter being called to Preach the Gospel in Ellesmer on Feb. 13. 1655. did in his Sermon take occasion as he thought he was bound to vindicate himself with a spirit of meeknesse from some asperpersions which some of the rebaptized judgement that was his phrase had cast upon him Whereupon some best known for distinction by the name of Anabaptists did write a Letter to him desiring him to come the next monthly Lecture to make good what he had delivered and that then and there there should be some God willing to dispute with him about Infant-Baptism Mr. Porter came the day appointed Nath. Gillow Jo. Capper Jo. Edwards Ma. Edw. and proved four of the Anabaptists in Ellesme arrant LYARS though I cannot learn that they have taken shame to themselves for their sin of Lying nor given any satisfaction to Mr. Porter As if Lying were a natural ingredient into Anabaptism as Bullinger in answer to an Objector said nor can you shew me ONE MAN of them who is not blemished with some of the foresaid wickednesses I mean Lying Sedition Idlenesse c. At which time also it was agreed that on the last of April a Publique Dispute should be held in the Parish Church of Ellesmer aforesaid about Infant-Baptism N. G. and J. C. stating the question thus All Infant-Baptism is unlawfull and that either Hen. Haggar or James Brown or Richard Newton should enter the lists with Mr. Porter and that each side was left at liberty to bring a Moderator with them The day being come Mr. Tallants was desired to be Moderator for Mr. Porter and Mr. Brown was designed to be Moderator for Mr. Haggar Not long af●er the dispute was begun Mr. Haggar and Mr. Brown cryed hard for Scripture expresse Scripture to prove the lawfulnesse of Infant-Baptism Mr. Porter answered That if he must fight with them they must give him leave to choose his weapons prov●ded he brings them out of Gods Armory Beside he said his adversaries were unreasonable to press him to that task which he never undertook Mr. Brown said he had Mr. Porters Letter to shew for it Mr. Brown was desired to produce and read the Letter if he had any to such import in the presence and audience of that great Congregation but none was read Then Mr. Porter said he would make a short cut of the Debate offering to Mr. Haggar that if he would produce one expresse Stripture to prove Infant-Baptism unlawful for his part he would lay down the Wasters Mr. Haggar said He came not on that account disliking and disowning the stating of the question by his brethren but to make good the Baptizing of believers by clear Scriptures Then M. Porter also offered that if they would produce one express Scripture in their sense to prove the lawfulnesse of Baptizing actual believers or visible Saints he for his part would lay down the wasters Mr. Haggar said He came to hear what could be said out of Scripture in justification of Infant-Baptism So that though the Adversaries kept a great bawling for Express Scripture as to Infant-Baptism yet they could not prove their own way of Baptizing by any one express Scripture And is it not meet the same law should be taken and given It was observed that Mr. Brown for very indignation did gnash with his teeth as if he would have bitten and did knit his fist together as if he would have beaten Mr. Porter therewith so mighty was Truth and operative and it was very remarkable that when Mr. Porter propounded any argument Mr. Haggar could not be prevailed with though often pressed thereto to answer directly and briefly but used Circumlocuti●ns to inveigle the people a piece of his cunning craftiness whereby he lies in wait to deceive as the Apostle speaks Ephes 4. 14. But Mr. Porter told him that he hoped old birds would not be caught with chaffe Toward the close of the Dispute an ancient professor * R. L. desired to speak a few words v●z Mr. Haggar had Preached in that place pointing to the Pulpit about two years agoe that Infant-Baptism was Antichristian and that he with others came to hear a confirmation of that Doctrine by Scripture and though Mr. Haggar was desired yet not one Scripture was alledged To which Mr. Haggar replyed that perhaps he might then deliver that Infant-Baptism was not true Baptism or that the Baptism of Christ was not to be found in the Church of England To which Mr. Porter replyed It 's blasphemy being ready to make it out and added withall that he to his best observation could not find in the New Testament any of years Baptized but either they were Jewes or Heathens and if Mr. Haggar and his disciples would acknowledg themselves to be such much good do it them with their new way of Baptizing Then Mr. Haggar read out of the Bible Deut. 28.18 19 20. in the audience of the people and Mr. Porter read Isaiah 65.23 After which Mr. Tallant sweetly concluded with Prayer and so the Congregation was dismissed Judg. 19.30