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A85071 The Faithfull narrative of the late testimony and demand made to Oliver Cromwel, and his powers, on the behalf of the Lords prisoners, in the name of the Lord Jehovah (Jesus Christ,) king of saints and nations. Published by faithful hands, members of churches (out of the original copies) to prevent mistakes, and misreports thereupon. To the faithful remnant of the Lamb, who are in this day of great rebuke and blasphemy, ingaged against the beast and his government, especially, to the new non-conforming churches, and saints in city and country, commonly called by the name of fifth monarchy men. Horton, Hur. 1655 (1655) Wing F278; Thomason E830_20; ESTC R207450 41,484 44

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that rested in their pleasures slesh c. and not in Christ but did their own work 5. Command Honour thy father and mother c. They brake this commandement in their disobedience to God the heavenly Father 6. Thou shalt not murther c. Murtherers are of many sorts such as have betraied the Blood that hath been shed against this kind of Government c. And then he converted his discourse against Informers that come for blood said to hate a brother without a cause is murder 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery c. This they did with others as Army Lawyers Priests interest and that which they before destroyed 8. Steal not Now there are great thieves and little thieves great ones are now in present Powers and Army thieves Clergy thieves Lawyers thieves and the great thief now in White-hall But the other two he left to another time When he had done he read a Letter from Mr. Feak where was a Dialogue between him and the Governor and then he commented upon it and said It is worse now then it was with the Romans for then Paul might preach though a Prisoner but now we are * Now is Mr. Rogers forced to preach out at the iron bars of the prison on Lordsdaies denied it After that he sung an Hymne and the people joyned with great alacrity against oppression and persecution c. After this Information was read Mr. Rogers said My Lord I had a purpose not to answer one word hereto this being no sutable place or time to answer a charge and no witnesses appearing against me to make it good but yet I shall tell you this for I will not with the Lords help speak a word but what I will own to your face for I love to appear in the sincerity of my soul and conscience for my Lord and Master Jesus Christ plain to all men and to lay open my principles which I have no cause though grace to be ashamed of the matter of this is much of it true but as to the form there is a great deal of patching botching put in by your mercenary hirelings which I will not own but as to much of the matter of it I must dare and with the Lords grace I will though I dy for it and without you should cut my tongue out of my head I shal continue the testimony up and tell you moreover with the rest about you here that I regard your laws in the matters of my God no more than straws for Imperia Divina non sunt subjecta Magistratui saith one of the Martyrs and tell you that I will not be accomptable to the Magistrate nor submit to his judgment in the matters of my Faith which the Civil law can take no due cognizance of One of his Councel said Ha! Imperia Divina Ro. So I say Imperia Divina O.P. Saith he are these spurious Articles now put in by drunkards and swearers and whoremongers too are they not Ha! Ha! Ro. My Lord They would fain have shisted off them from Lambeth as it seems as if they were ashamed of them I know what I say Those which were sent from Lambeth put in by the Prisoners there those I say a●e such I did not say all but those that I see there which lie upon the Table titled from Lambeth and besides there is Serjeant Dendy knows this that I say for hehimself I thank him sent in their Informations against me to M. Thurloe which he cannot deny S. Dendy I delivered him none my Lord. Ro. I say not you delivered them but you sent them by your man who delivered them according to your directions S. Dendy But my Mother my Lord this was my Mother for she Catechized me my Lord and I told her Ro. So that is true as I said before that those from Lambeth-prison are spurious wicked illegal Mr. Cre. Pray my Lord let M. Rogers have a copy of his charge for the law allows it him O.P. No this is not his tryal Ro. Why then let me have it as you are a Christian for is it fit I be denied a sight of my accusation against me but be turned away and would not hear M.Cre. Then my Lord let us have liberty of conscience will you not give us so much liberty as the Parliament gave with that he turn'd about in anger O.P. I tell you there was never such liberty of conscience no never such liberty since the dayes of * He confessed that Antichrists government is now up in England yet so that no wonder the Prisons are so full of precious Saints Antichrist as is now for may not men preach and pray what they will And have not men their liberty of all opinions Ro. It is true there is liberty enough and too much too for drunkards swearers and men of vile debauched principles and evil lives Common-prayer-men and such like we know round the Nation then his creatures about him scoffed O.P. Ha! Are Drunkennesse Swearing opinions then Ro. I say not so but I say such men may have their opinions whiles we are persecuted for the truth But why do you not my Lord let out my brother Feak at Windsor with my self seeing we suffer in one cause for one testimony and I trust by one Spirit of Jesus Christ let us both out to answer for our selves joyntly together and to make it appear to all uninteressed Christians that we are no evill doers in the matters we suffer for which if we do not then let us suffer O.P. M Feak truly M Feak I think lesse evill may be said of him than of you but there are many of different opinions that come to me and they know they have all their liberty of their opinions Ro. Yea every man almost that talks with you is apt to think you of his opinion my Lord what ever he be his creatures scoffed again O.P. Nay you * But some of that opinion do as Mr. T.G. and others do not saith he in anger his creatures scoffed and laughed again Ro. Some of this Judgment do think you so although as I said before the the Privative or negative part of the Testimony you cannot bear O.P. Pish here is a deal of positive and privative to shew you are a Scholer and 't is well known what you are and where do you find that distinction They thought Mr. Rogers to be an antick because he spake in power and goeat zeal Ro. In Logick O.P. Ha! Ro. I must tell you in the Name of the Lord Jehovah that your condition is very desperate and if you consult the holy oracles you will find it for the next vial which is to be poured out is the scorching hot one and must fall upon the Apostate professours that have forsaken and betrayed the cause of Christ and look to it it is like to fall heavy upon your heads and those that are about you I pray think of that in Hosea 1.4 the
Jehovah and now that God alone might have the choice of the men another time was appointed to seek the Lord and then they all agreed to take their Call by Lot given in the name of the Lord so that after solemn looking up to heaven the Lot was given from the Lap Prov. 16.33 and the 18.18 and fell upon twelve but to observe the Lords wisdome those that they in their wisdome should probably and principally have pitched upon for parts utterance and abilities were by the Lords Lot put by yet this appearing so undeniably to be of God the same twelve were fully satisfied and accepted their Call afterward they agreed to go every one with his Bible in his hand upon the Message of the Church accordingly upon the 29 of the eleventh Moneth a solemn day of Prayer was kept and they were sent out in the name of the Lord Jesus the Contents of the Message with which they were intrusted is as followeth THE MESSAGE OF THE CHURCH To O. C. by the Twelve WE are sent unto you twelve of us in the name of our Lord Jesus The Message of the Twelve Brethren and of that Church Society whereof Mr. Rogers now prisoner for the Lord Jesus at Lambeth is overseer in the holy Ghost although we be poore despised worms and the weakest and unworthiest of the Lords Number or of the Body to which we are related and although we be not so able to speak as others of our Society might have been yet after much seeking the Lord to be with us and trusting in the strength and name of our Lord Christ by which we are come out this Day after the Seal of some promises upon our spirits in the strength of the anointing we are as well as the Lord shall enable us come to deliver our Message to you from the Lord and that First Because the Lot of the Lord is cast upon us The Reasons above others Secondly Because the Lord hath chosen the poore and most despised things to confound and appear against the wise and great ones of the world 1 Cor. 1.27 Thirdly Because we are bound to sympathise with the Saints in Bonds Heb. 13.3 in the defence of the Gospel Phil. 17.14 and the Apostle blames them that stood not by him in his bonds 1 Tim. 4.16 but we are resolved by the grace of our God to own and stand by these our Brethren the faithful Servants of the most High and true and faithful Ministers of Jesus Christ who are now persecuted and imprisoned by you and your Powers Fourthly Because the Primitive Saints who had a Primitive spirit which we pray for and are in dayly expectation of spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jam. 5. and the 10. and so must we to you in the plainnesse foolishnesse and simplicity of the Gospel without any Politick studied or artificial frame of words or expressions after the wisdome of the world or the Princes of the world 1 Cor. 2.6.8 2 Cor. 2.17 therefore it is we dare not give flattering titles to any man whose breath is in his nostrils Job 32.21 22. nor come we to make our petition to man but to God we do in these matters of our Faith and Consciences Nota. for which we contend this day and for which our dear Brethren are cruelly imprisoned at Lambeth meaning our Brother Rogers and Windsor meaning Mr. Feak 1. Wherefore in the name of our Lord Jesus and of that whole Society who have intrusted us on this errand we are to DEMAND the Lords prisoners those prisoners of hope at Lambeth and Windsor as due to Christ and his Churches whom ye have so unchristianly rent and torn from us we meaning the Churches and neither we nor they know for what to this day but we are perswaded The Testimony In the prison Mr. Feak Mr. Rogers Mr. Spitle-house Col. Overton Col. Allured Adj. Gen. Allen. with many others it is for their Faith and Conscience in the truth and Testimony of Jesus Christ against the foul Apostacies and sins of the times in professours whether in Powers Priests Armies or others that have cast off the true Cause and Interest of Christ and have taken up the Creatures instead thereof which can never stand This demand we make according to Isa 42.22.2 Chron. 28.11 2. And lastly though we never yet did it in publick yet so long as you go on thus we dare not but joyn with our* suffering Brethren viz. in what prisons soever for their Consciences and this Cause of Christ and declare and testifie against you and the rest that adhere unto you whether in Power or out so long as you are the Enemies of Christ and his Cause at this day which we must do with the words of truth and sobriety Since that M. Gen. Harrison Col. Courtney Col. Rich. M. Chary imprisoned the 16 day of this Moneth besides all in other contries and Scotland those there that are like to lose their lives by bloody Trials all these with many others suffering at this day for with the Testimony of a good conscience against men that have betrayed the cause of Christ Others have been imprisoned as Mr. Vavasor Powel Mr. Jo. Simson Col. Okey c. for the Lord will rend you and all up by the Roots that are not plants of his own planting and the great God will appear ere long to confound and destroy this spirit of persecution injustice and Tyranny which the poore Non-Conforming Saints feel so sorely and we pray you consider that of Asa 2 Chron. 16. though a good man and a great General and Conquerour when once he forsook the Lord relied on an arm of Flesh and began to imprison the Lords Prophet the hand of God was against him and so on others and so will his wrath be upon you and those that belong to you if you go on thus and if God give you not a true and timely repentance of these great sins which cry day and night for vengeance against you and yours and so do thousands of the poore persecuted Saints however you are made to believe therefore we pray you see if you will yet keep the Captives of the Lord Jer. 50 33 but mark it v. 34. so Isa 29.20.21 Psal 102.17 20 21. Psal 37.32 33.34 Psal 79.11 and saith Christ What you did unto these you did unto me and Acts 9. Saul Saul why persecutest thou me so fee in Matth. 18.28 30 34. see v. 35. Isa 49 24 25. Mal. 2.11 12. Now to conclude the day of Christ is at hand which will set them free and will ere long call you and all about you to Judgment for all these things that you have done and suffered to be done against the Lord Jesus and all his Saints and for all the blood of the Saints that hath been shed against this Interest and these evil things which you have set up again to the Joy of the wicked the grief of the godly and