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A85519 The grand concernments of England ensured: viz. liberty of conscience, extirpation of popery, defence of property, easing of taxes, advance of trade, soveraign powers of Parliaments, reformation of religion, laws and liberties, indempnity, settlement, by a constant succession of free Parliaments, the only possible expedient to preserve us from ruine or slavery. The objections, answered; but more largely, that of a senate. With a sad expostulation, and some smart rebukes to the Army. 1659 (1659) Wing G1492; Thomason E1001_6; ESTC R204729 70,399 77

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any orderly debate To which I return That such a number as cannot understand that cannot make out to one another the benefit of mankind are too many to make good the interest of mankind in away of reason and if in any particular they hit upon it t is more by hap then any good cunning Therefore I believe that so many and no more as may among themselves be well informed of their own and the peoples in crest being universally the same are the only men and number of men to preserve the interest of mankind When a fire breaks out t is the interest of the whole neighbourhood to quench it but they may be too many to be useful therefore the supernumeraries had better be at home that they be no hinderance That may be the interest of the whole Nation that doth not call for so great numbers to keep it on foot therefore those that may be well enough spared let them keep at home too many are troublesome and stand in one anothers light Why 1050 and no lesse to look to the interest of England besides 300 to be the light of England Or why the light of mankind must be separated from the interest of mankind is very dark to me If the one body be all eye where is its tasting and its feeling if the other be all lasting and feeling where is its seeing this is not altogether so good contrivance as where two half-blind Coachhorses are so placed that this may see on the one side and that on the other though they can scarce see each other their blinde sides being next together The people saith Mr. Harrington can feel but they cannot see well then the light of this Body is the eye that is the Senate if then the Eye be at Westminster and the Body be at St. Pauls Church for a little place cannot hold 1050 men I perswade my self this body must be full of darkness Why 1050 pray a lesse number was formerly thought enough to assert the interest of mankinde against the light of mankinde the Lords spiritual and temporal and the Judges to boot which was the interest of some men besides when yet the Commons were thought to have and were found to have the light of mankinde in them too yea and have so well asserted and made good the interest of mankinde against those lights and private interests that leaves no man great cause to except against their number Why 500 or thereabouts being equally distributed for elections according to the interest of every part of England should not as well preserve the interest of mankinde as 1050 especially when hereby the Body hath its eyes in its head hath in it self the light of mankind and the interest of makind can see and feel both I know not And unlesse we should put out our eyes because some say they that see best here worst sometimes and they that hear worst seebest oft times the losse of one sense being the increase of another and so because the Great Counsel is blinde it should feel the better or the Senate because it doth not feel so much must see the better unlesse this be good reason I am bound to think best of A single Assembly But stay The Senate is the light reason or learning of mankinde and how easie it is for reason and learning to delude sense let any one imagine It is true there are some things so sensibly certain that they are not to be over ruled by any shew of reason but reason seldome busieth its selfe about these nor are these the things that so frequently occur unto the consideration of our Representatives if these were the things there would be the lesse necessity for the light of mankinde the reason of a Senate being to debate hard matters things that are not so liable to sense This difficulty will yet remain Whether since Mr. Harrington saith a Senate alone will not be honest it be like to be ever the honester hereby while by their light of reason and learning it will be no hard matter in many things to dazle the weak sight of that vast Animal if both parties do at all agree whereby the benefit to result will be this only that iniquity be established by a Law by a more seeming or pretended reason and interest Sense doth not much foresee the benefit of a Law to be made though it feels the good of a Law that hath been sometime in force therefore it will be no hard matter for seeming reason to seduce common sense This great Counsel wherein it may be some may be found to have scarce common sense had need to be well instructed better then a Senate can inform them by an Oration or Preachment where every ones tale is good till anothers is told or else they are like enough to do they know not what for I doubt me every man hath not a light within him to a certain knowledge of good or evill the interest or prejudice of the State that without any more adoe we should be left to do as God shall direct us let me put a case 1050 are chosen for the Great Councel and 300 for the Senate according to Mr. Harringtons free way of Election for fear of fixing any in opposition The 300 propose That CHARLES STUART be made King of England I may suppose this for Mr. Harrington saith in effect The Senate will not be honest if they can chuse and a King might not do much amisse with these two Counsels well what will the sense and interest of the 1050 say to this supposing there must be no debating this businesse there but every one must put their mindes in a box without telling tales there be some in the world that would lay two to one their sense would soon inform them that it is their interest to make him King I leave the Reader to a free judgement once more the 300 would seem wiser and in their grave judgements propound to the 1050 to settle some Sectary as we call them Lord Archon and Sole Legislator of England and signifie to them that it is the National interest so to do without debating the matter but away presently to the Balloting box I conceive their sense would hardly convince them that either the one or the other were their interest the sense of people in many things is a kinde of prepossession they must be soundly convinced here if they believe any thing but what they thought before be it true or false but in other things they are more facile and ductile and not so hard to be imposed on If they are prepossessed with an error then the work is done to hand 't is but proposing and 't is presently resolved If they are prepossess●d with their true Interest if the contrary be not of necessity to the design of the Senate it may lie still till better leasure but if it be of absolute necessity I hope it will be held fit that this be introduced
Rogers though I understand not what Oligarchy he would have wherein he is as dark as if he were all Hebrew at which one might venture divers Interpretations Mr. Harrington ruleth me where he saith Give us good Lawes good Orders and they shall make us good men Good Orders are the very foundation of Government and then good us as good men as you can with respect bad to those Lawes and Orders As good men as you can but by no means break Orders to pick and choose They that would set up a Scripture Government or the Kingdome of Christ in England by overthrowing our natural Birth-rights are mightily to be pitied but little to be trusted 'T is dangerous trusting good men too farre they may seem good to day and prove bad to morrow We have seen sad instances of trusting good men Who would have thought old Oliver had not had the spirit of the cause and that he would not have carryed on the Refined Interest But alas alas how shall we know the men that will continue faithfull And if any think or say with Peter to Christ Though all forsake thee yet will not we they know not how soon their faith may fall them and may do well to remember that High-places are slippery places and doe endanger Back-sliding who unlesse they have given over to pray lead us not into temptation would be very fearfull of falling into this snare The best men prove bad Legislators if trusted with and continued in Arbitrary power And this is one evil I have seen under the Sun we call that good which is most like us of our own party or faction and humour but who ever are truly good will be best pleased to be prescribed by Rules which may keep them within compasse if they should fall into an hour of temptation that though their Grace should faile yet our Faith should not faile while we know that though they would yet they cannot hurt us I have done what I designed only have transgressed my intended bounds and limits I hold it no good manners to venture too far to offer my thoughts about government knowing very well those whom it concerns to Settle us understand their businesse better then I can teach them and verily if some had not been overbusie in Print I had kept all this in my breast and nor disturbed the publique with it let this provocation plead my excuse Only by the way I do a little wonder at some who are so purely popular that they are angry at a Councel of State for fear of Usurpation but t is like they fear where no fear is I had made it my request to the Parliament which I believe they would have well received to state us such qualifications for Members to be chosen into the next Representative as we might have ventured our all with them wherein I had delivered my opinion against admitting any of the late Kings party without fearing to fix them in opposition against us being already fixed in such bitter opposition against a Common-wealth that they would not believe the benefit of it though they did a little feel it much lesse would they believe it at the first but should all manner of men be promiscuously admitted into the next Parliament many would be brought in who when they were there would undoubtedly conclude we had wonderfully beguiled them and had put out their eyes that they should grinde in our mill and would be confident we called them in only to make sport wherefore they would not fail to lay their hands upon the pillars of the Common-wealth and bow themselves with all their might if possible to pull the House upon our heads though they themselves were ruined by the fall Some other things I had humbly proposed to them in reference to the next Representative tending to the security of the Government of the good Cause we have been contending for and Liberty of Conscience all which I doubt not but they would have put in practice or have taken better care for all and then when this Representative had found the want of a Senate I should have submitted my judgement to theirs who I doubt not would have had every jot as much foresight as the People of Venice and if they had found the want would have called for the remedy without the help of a LORD SOLE LEGISLATOR I have done and was indeed since this unluckie change resolved wholly to omit this Argument of a Senate which was sent to the Presse a week since the whole being intended for the Parliament who are since perfidiously forced judging it little boot to plead for this or that way of a Common-wealth when we are like to go without this or that either and be ruled by meer will and pleasure but observing some endevours for this Senate and Popular assembly by HOOK or by CROOKE who think that LAMBERT shall deserve 20000 l. per annum during his life to settle it I am over-ruled to publish my Exceptions against it and submit them to censure however expect not what I propound should be Setled by such Juglers who but yesterday cryed Hosana to the Supreme Authority the Parliament and now nothing will serve but away with them away with them let them be crucified I had prepared besides my Addresse to the Parliament to close my Discourse with Addresses to the Episcopal Presbyterian Independent Baptized Protectorians Army and the whole body of the Nation quieting them towards a submission to the Supremacy of Parliaments chiding them heartily and severally as I saw occasion But now the Army becoming the sole Masters of Reason I dare make no Addresses but to themselves wherein yet I shall hardly flatter them as most of themselves did the Late Protector and betrayed him with a kisse TO THE ARMY THE Supreme Authority OF ENGLAND High and Mighty Masters IT hath been in every bodies mouth The Parliament were your drudges that you were twice or thrice about to discard them since they sat last No doubt they spake it most of them as they would have it Well you have broken this Parliament yea you have broken your selves and us too yea have turned all topsie ●urvie T is true of you These are they that have turned the World upside downe you have made England Scotland Ireland a Chaos without form and void and I doubt your Omnipotency will never speak the word for such a creation as any honest man shall say when he hath looked upon it that it is very good You may pardon me since you have put all out of Order if you have disordered my thoughts so that I observe no method when all is without any method among us I tell you this action is the most faithless senseless bootless ruinous action that ever appeared upon the Stage of the world the most false hearted and traiterous the most ridiculous and insignificant the most rash and fruitlesse the most dangerous and destructive adventure that ever men took in
avoided but how to make a whole Councel of Officers honest most of whom have sprouted up from no very generous principles this is next of kin to an impossibility What a Corporation of the Army what the Army the Representative of England Must your General as of late be the Archon or Sole Legislator your Councel of Officers our Senate and your small Officers the people of England out upon it this is too bad in all conscience why not a Corporation of the Navie too as much reason every jot What the Supreme Authority of England that pay you your wages that can put in and out at their pleasure and it is reason they should the Lords Keepers of the Great Seal the Judges of the Land the greatest Officers of State yea and besides whom none can give you Commissions but they are Rogues and Robbers as bad as any High-way-men and worse who take upon them to act and have no Commission from them it is the case of some among you T is a Combination and a Conspiracy among you to make a GENERAL and give him Commission and then he to give you Commissions or to set up any number of men as Supreme but such as the good people of the Land chuse and then to take Commissions from them this is Idolatry to fall down and worship the work of your own hands and to cry aha we are warmed aha we are warmed What not the Supreme Authority be able to remove a Lieutenant an Ensigne a Serjeant a Cororal But by your leave most Omnipotent Councel of Officers 't is true it is dangerous trusting a General with this Power he may turn all to his own Interest which most commonly accords but little with that of the Nation you have had wonderful experience of this already but the Parliament whose interest is the interest of the Nation and can be no other that their noses should come under the girdle of an Army Oh sad contrivance What was it the Good Old Cause that the Parliament must have the Militia and not the King was it then reason they should command the Sword who carryed the Purse and carried the Interest of the Nation among them and poor King must he suffer death for standing upon his terms with them And now when the Parliament is by Your selves declared The Supreme Authority of England now they must touch none of your anointed now they must not so much as remove one single Officer of your Army but through the mediation of your grace and favour could the Parliament say Amen to this part of your Petition and Representation and not betray the Nation and their trust and make themselves the scorne and hatred of the Nation and future Parliaments Yea could they understand this private Combination to force this unreasonable desire and proceed with lesse tokens of their displeasure and not give the Nation a jealousie that they would betray them And is this the reason why you hugge these 9. Powder-plotters to effect this most horrid hellish mischief I can imagine nothing so like the truth of the Design if there be any design in it as this well should this be effected for you that you should give Law to England pray what will be the design of it to what end I pray to bewray your deep insight into the affairs of State To gain your selves Honour and Renown for your rare Conduct of the State no I fear shame would be your promotion you would have little better successe then you have had you may joult your Jobernouls together long enough before you can hammer out a Settlement for us no body thinks that saying true of you I am wiser then all my Teachers Where will be the Design if when you have run your selves out of Winde and out of your Wits too you shall be reduced to the like exigency as of late and be forced to bewayl your Blindenesse and Apostasie again I say what is become of the Design then And it is not in reason to foresee how you can manage the Chariot of the State long but all must run into disorder your Sin yea and your Undertaking will be a burden a punishment greater then you can bear Very considerate men think you can hardly carry it a Moon Oh shallow oh incogitant oh pitifull oh foolish Army who hath bewitched you you did run well who hindred you will you now altogether run in vain will you lose the things you have wrought will you sell the righteous for nought Our Lawes Liberties our Good Old Cause for lesse then a pair of Shooes Will you harm us and do your selves no good Oh peevish oh wilfull Are ye Children are ye Fools are ye mad Do you discover your Gallantry by grapling with Impossibilities For shame men for shame give over Oh but you mistake us all this while our Design is To carry on the Refined Interest the Spirit of the Cause Good good is this the businesse what is this new thing nothing you now make sport withall a Refined Interest the spirit of the cause hard words what is the English on 't I wonder whether Sir Henry Vane hath opened these abstruse terms to your understanding you apprehend things more nimbly then it seems then honest old English-spirited Sir Arthur Haslerigge that most highly deserving Patriot I think it will be hard to understand the thing you drive at by the terms you dresse it in you will teach us to speak English after a new cut certainly such an Interest was never till now phrased a Refined one The Refined Interest saith Mr. Harrington is that which carries so much reason in it and so much the Interest of the Nation that it being once understood and we in possession of it needs not a Mercenary Army to keep it up Is your Interest refined in this notion you so much blesse your selves in what course will you take for the carrying on the spirit of the cause the Refined Interest what will you preserve our choice inviolable shall that power rule us and you that we choose so to doe No this would hazard the Refined Interest I le warrant you What then shall all the old Friends of the Parliament that are no more Turn-coals then your selves and have served the State as well as your selves shall these in every County City and considerable Burrough choose their Trustees for the Supreme Authority No there hath been a great Apostasie and Back-sliding honest men shall be chosen who are true to the Cause who are fit to be Kings and Priests and to reign for ever and ever such as have the Spirit and these will know what Israel ought to doe and will make good Lawes and Statutes and execute judgement in the Gate these will hate the Whore and burn her flesh with fire Is this the Refined Interest what such another Gimcrack as that little Mungrell thing that Voted it self a Parliament any thing in the world that will keep our Faction in heart that
in the progress take notice how much the calling in his King will answer the expectations of some while he promiseth to keep the Army up notwithstanding the dangers will be over and for this end the King is the only person to raise Taxes and Contributions they are his own words He goes on to tell this only can secure their Pay and satisfie their Arrears very good Sir but I hope you will make no scruple to pay us in our own coyn He proceeds No body else dare trust you as a standing body and endevours to exasperate the Army from the treatment they received from the old Protector but I conceive he was a single person Ay but his King being supported by his just title hath no such grounds of suspicion but may repose himself upon the loyalty of his people which Usurpers dare not do How now Sir this is strange forgetfulness remember the late King I hope you deem him no Usurper and would you perswade that the Son would repose himself upon that Army that hath opposed him and his Father unto bloud when the Father put so little confidence in his Parliament methinks his King should con him little thankes for this unhappy distinction between a Prince with a just title and a Usurper More yet His King hath a particular respect for the Army yea in spite of all their Rebellions A strong argument in good sooth Oh strange that they should not envy any other the honour of being commanded by such a Prince who is the only expedient upon earth to render them and their posterity happy I shall end this by inverting the force of his own conclusion and turning its point upon himself Were this directed to the Spanish or French infantry those Venal souls that understand nothing but pay and plunder these arguments of Pay and keeping themselves from being disbanded would passe their Pikes and be well received but the English Army that have still owned a Publique Spirit where every common man knows how to judge as well as execute will not fail to steer themselves as prudence shall instruct who ever hath conversed with my Author will finde I observe his own phrases and I assure you I am not a little delighted in his style Lastly It is the interest of the Protectors party and the Parliament to call in his King He is in great hast I see his wildefire being nigh spent else he would still have maintained the distance he had been fomenting between these two before which he had twice treated of distinctly and not have joyned them together at last but he cannot part them I will leave them as he hath brought them together to think whether they are so nearly concerned to jump in this Gentlemans judgement as he would have them imagine I have been forced to mispend some time in picquering with small Forces that were ambushed to intercept me but have moved with as much speed as I could securing such passes as might seem of any advantage to the enemy that I might not be surprised in the rear I shall burn no more day light but fall in with him pell mell and as plainly deny what he hath as peremptorily asserted and do say That the calling in the late Kings Son is neither a certain nor yet probable means much lesse the only means for preservation of the Nation and the Rights and Interests thereof I shall think I have well acquitted my self of this undertaking when I have done two things First Evidenced it That the calling in the late Kings Son is directly against the common National interest in several particulars whereby it will also appear to be against the Rights und Interests of most single persons in it Secondly When I have exhibited another expedient that shall do the work For the first The common National Interests for I own no particular interest at variance herewith that I shall mention are such as these First Liberty of conscience It is the common interest of the Nation to be secure that they may without disturbance worship God according to their consciences while they destroy not the Doctrines or life of Christianity and live peaceably in the State this our Author concedes with a greater latitude then I propound it whether in jest or in earnest or between both matters not much saying So all agree in Loyalty though they differ in other matters There is no reason why they should not all be alike dear unto their Prince their differences being of no more consideration then the complexion of Children to their Father The Episcopal party claim this as their right and think it hard usage if at any time they are forbidden publique assemblies upon Christmas day and other good times or are forbidden to read the Common Prayer book in their Churches and really if no body were wiser then I they should have no cause given them to be angry at it so they would neither directly nor indirectly promote Sedition against the Government The Presbyterians would cry out of Oppression if they should be bound to Surplesses and such like Crotchets to read Common Prayer or be Lorded over by Metropolitan Bishops to do reverence to Altars or bow at the name of Jesus to observe Saints Holy-dayes to keep Lent in a word to have any thing imposed on their consciences The Independent must not be confined to his Parish Church or be determined by the judgements of neighbour Churches nor have the liberty of expounding Scripture by a Lay-brother be denied These and some others every one for themselves claim this priviledge of a Free-born man accounting it slavish to be imposed upon in matters of Religion and if I would be indulged my self and hold it my right as a man and a Christian to be at liberty to serve God according to what I know of his Will in his Word Why should we set at naught our Brother Why should we grudge that to him that we claim for our selves That every one claims this as his right and interest is out of doubt yea that they who would deny it to others think themselves wronged to be without it themselves and would dispute it with the hazard of their lives rather then this Liberty should be infringed is evident to every mans experience That hence it is become though no other reason could be assigned for it the common interest of the Nation without which no quietness can be thought of that so many as fear God and are sound in the substantials of Christianity howsoever they may differ in those things that the Scriptures are not so expresse and clear in and in modes and forms of Worship and Discipline that such should be suffered without any discountenance or disturbance is as little to be had in question Whether the calling in the late Kings Son be a probable means for the salving this difficulty is not hard to resolve that his affection if not his interest is so linked with the Episcopal and Romish party as
hand Oh my soul enter not thou into their secrets nor let any honest man say a confederacy with them let them associate themselves they shall be broken to pieces God will finde them out in due time I beseech you what do you mean are ye Christians and yet will not be men to passe by all former Obligations did you not the other day bewail your Apostasie that you had wandred from your GOOD OLD CAUSE did you not tell us You took shame to your selves and remembred from whence you were fallen and repented and would do your first workes and therefore finding that God blessed you all along till you forced the Long Parliament but after that made you labour as in the fire and no good came of all your after actions therefore you assured them that now they should sit freely and you would strengthen their hands and be their servants Is not all this truth in these very words or to this effect and much more if I had leasure to repeat but it is fresh in every bodies mouths and mindes though you have forgot it and are you not past shame now must we bewail your Apostasie now as fearing since you are fallen away after being enlightened it will be hard to restore you again by repentance especially since ye have tasted of the powers of this world But besides this did you not every Mothers childe of you Officers did you not take your Commissions from the Parliament and one by one promise your obedience Yes that most faithful and gifted Brother Collonel Packer promised when he received his Commission at Mr. Speakers hands That he would not only promise them to be faithful and obedient but they should see by his actions that he would be a true servant to them and the Common-wealth Yea Lambert himself was the greatest stickler for the Parliament God forgive him for what ends I know not and yet these men Act like as they had given the Parliament Commissions and turn them out whom they just now promised so seriously to obey a Tu●k a Heathen would have scorned this falshood and baseness What not be faithful to our trust O faithlesse and perverse generation Add to this that flattering and insinuating Petition and Representation but the other day wherein they so sadly bemoan themselves that the Parliament should so sharpely rebuke their humble servants their faithful servants that meant nothing but to Petition in a peaceable manner where they artificially conceal their int●ntions for a General only desire that Fleetwoods Commission may be renewed other things they Petition for we understand what your Petitioning signifies some to insinuate into the favour of the Militia others to secure the Government of the Nation in the hands of the Officers of the Army it is so in the effect and then most Saint-like promise all to be well-meaning men to be Servants to the Parliament and the most sweet expressions imaginable But we have tryed them that say they are Saints they are the faithfull Servants of the Common-wealth but are not and have found them Lyars Who Lambert put the Northern Brigade to petition for a Generall no such matter he perswaded them good man all he could against it yes I 'le warrant you And yet the Fift Monarchy-men the Mad ones of them think now Christs Kingdome goes on amain and flock down in Shoals to Wallingford-house to make way for Christs coming who may be coming for ought that I know as he saith When the Son of Man comes shall he finde faith upon the earth Upon my word these were fit to live and reign with Christ a thousand years who cannot keep Faith an hundred dayes Let me say with the Psalmist Help Lord for the Godly man ceaseth for the faithfull fail among the Children of men they speak vanity every one with his neighbour with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak 'T is a most senselesse ridiculous and insignificant action you pleasure your Enemies and make your selves and us the whole Nation a scorn a derision and a Proverb in the earth In the beginning of this book I have been dealing with a Malignant Impostor whose whole busin●sse was nothing else but to make you break the Parliament to serve his designs for I tell you they fear their Wisdome more then your power Are the Cavaliers your friends are ye bewitched to believe them and to slight your old true friends I thought I had not needed to say much in the beginning of the Book to answer that treacherous Cavalier I thought it was enough to tell you whose was the plot to perswade you to break the Parliament But before I could bring my Book to light ye are cheated into a belief of his Imposture Ah me are ye not proud of your wisdome Whose is this Invention who put you upon this exploit Oh sad Will you please your enemies and grieve your friends Know him or them that put you upon this grosse piece of folly and avoid them We that put you upon calling back this Parliament and encouraged you in the day of your straights and told every body we met how honest the Army would be now they understood themselves that they would standby the Parliament while they did settle the Nation upon the foundations of righteousnesse and truth We even we are laughed to scord and I must speak to you in the words of Joab Ye have shamed this day the faces of all your servants that have saved your lives that have saved your credits which should be as dear as life and that have appeared for you in the day of your distresse in that you love your Enemies and hate your friends for you have declared this day that you regard neither Princes nor Servants for this day I perceive that it pleaseth you well though all we dye so Absalom live We know not how to look any body in the face though we thought we had done well when we appeared for you against your enemies But every one of us get away by stealth as people that are ashamed steal away when they flee in Battell Not only so but you have made your selves the most absolute Changelings in the world It is a Proverb beyond Seas to expresse any Uncertainty thus As certain as England Our Agent Lockhart is laughed at when he comes to treat with the Spanish Favourite What a peace with you who are your Masters you have as many Masters at Moons Goe make peace among your selves and then talk of peace with us Ambassadors here in England know not who to make their Addresses to and have said What shall we treat we know not who to trust to You will have new Masters within this Six Weeks and then we must begin again This is greatly for your honour 't is your interposing hath begot all these changes still as we have been setling you have broken us to pieces this is all your wit you mend the matters wisely if we will have any
will carry on our design this is the Refined Interest whether it be honest or whether it be just it matters not many men extoll that Junto to this day though the very Constitution of it stinketh in the Nostrils of every considerate man as tending utterly to cheat us of our Choice And what do not men magnifie now adayes that will but say as they say Beshrew that Christian Policy that would ride over our Rights and Priviledges under Pretense of a Refined Interest Those that will forget to be Men will not long remember to be Christians They that will dash the Second Table of the Law to pieces will hardly keep the first Table as they ought Will you rob us of our Rights and kill us by Famine and decay of Trade Surely we must all be Souldiers ere long and then we shall get a Vote among you Will ye kill will you steal and say Ye are delivered to work all these Abominations No you are out all this while We will be honester then you think for we will have Parliaments still chosen by the people But it cannot be safe for the Godly unlesse we choose a Select number of faithfull men Faithfull to the GOOD OLD CAUSE that shall be a Check to the Parliament an Influencing Senate as Mr. Stubs hath it who hath written a Book on purpose to prove Sir Henry Vane no Jesuite Sure Mr. Stubs did not finde this in Mr. Harringtons Modell which he admires as if it were a pattern out of the Mount No certainly Mr. Harrington hath more Wisdome and more Honesty His Senate is only to give light he doth not propound a Senate to be the Interest of the Common wealth to secure the Honest party nor yet an Influencing Senate to be chosen by a few men that call themselves the Godly party But to be chosen by the People as the other House These two Senates are as contrary as White to Black And if Mr. Harringtons Modell came out of the Mount I wonder from whence from what Manuscript this Library-keepers Noddle did bring one his If there must be a Senate surely none better certainly none can be honest and just but that which the People choose as Mr. Harrington saith Pray why should the Army choose Are there not as Honest men as themselves in every part of the Nation What I 'le warrant the major part is the worse part therefore they must not be trusted But the Council of Officers I wonder indeed how the major part of the Council of Officers can take themselves to be honest who first Declared against A Single Person Then routed the Parliament Then set up a Mock-Parliament then pulled it down Then made their Generall Protector for life then made him to beget a Protector Then broke this Government Then suffered the Parliament to sit again Now have broke them again What comes next That which they will break again ere long One can hardly give a worse Character of Men Meddle not with them that are given to Change And must these choose us an Influencing Senate It is like to be well done Well and when all is done carry on your Refined Interest as well as you can your Mock-Parliament or Seventy Elders would never agree some would see further into Milstones then others and had a more Glorious Cause to carry on then the rest and then this would be the Refined Interest there would be no end till we fall all to Errant Popery Yea your Senate and your Parliament would agree like Cats and Dogs they would never unite where then is your Design Have you no Guts in your Brains Why do you rage and imagine a vain thing As sure as you live nothing but honest and righteous things will be a Foundation for us to bottome upon if we mean to stand against the Windes and Waves that are like to beat against our House He is no Designer now that will not be Honest Nothing but Honesty and a publick heart can carry us with credit and safety through these Discriminating times Never were such dayes of Triall in England They may go to School again that have Machiavil by heart there h●th been and is another Game going in England then these Gamesters are aware of He must have been purely honest and not much pre-possessed that hath not gravelled himself in these last twenty years Ye have many Flatterers but few reall Friends Glad my heart and do Righteous things you that are Honest Ye cannot wipe your mouth and say What evill have we done now Ye cannot have such a Face of Brasse such a Whores Forehead Repent repent Deny us not our just Rights let Righteousnesse take place So shall you repair the Breach you have made upon us so shall we be established for God establisheth the Just And let us by no means talk deceitfully for God To say no more It is the most ruinous the most dangerous and destructive action that ever was taken to task Parliament broken the Nation unsetled Friends discontented no body but blames you Lawes and Liberties all a going the Sword Rampant the Nation undone your Enemies more numerous and mighty the Common Interest of the Nation in jeopardy your GOOD OLD CAUSE at stake nay your own Throats ready to be cut as if you were going like an Oxe to the Slaughter or a Fool to the correction of the Stocks like a Bird snared in an evil Net like a Bird that hasteth to the net and knoweth not that it is for his life What say Friends and Foes The Army would not referre the Nation unto the care of this Parliament that were as one should say Flesh of their Flesh and Bone of their Bone surely no Parliament will ever do good upon them since this could not If any other Parliament crosse them then they must turn out for Malignants With this word in their ears What shall we be Governed by them we conquered but the other day are there no English spirits in the Nation What can you exp●ct but a generall Revolt of the People and that all the Nation should be in Bloud Surely it is as good for us to die as to live the Slaves of our Servants most of whom our purses have raised from the dunghil Sir George Booth is an inconsiderable Traytor now you may be ashamed to Sequester his Estate who did but endevour to do what you have done and had more to say for himself ten to one then you Every thing looks black about us at home and abroad Neighbours at home ready to cut our throats and yours too at this very instant you have disobliged your friends and yet forain Nations threaten us hard It is in every bodies mouth and I doubt 't is too true Ambassadors are coming to offer us CHARLES STUART upon Terms if we will not then they will bring him in by Force if this be so Lord have mercy upon us here are thousands in England would rather the Turke should come in then