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A78622	A raging wave foming out his own shame. Or, An answer to a book lately published by Richard Hains (a person withdrawn from) entituled, A protestation against usurpation. Wherein appears such a measure of envies bitterness heaped up, pressed down, and running over, as the like in some ages hath not appeared, by his many false accusations, and malicious insinuations, thereby to provoke (if possible) both the chief magistrate, and all men of what degree soever, to have suspicious thoughts of the innocent, easily proved to have no other fouudation [sic] but his own evil imaginations. : Wherein also the church of Southwater by him contemptuously rendered papistical in their act of withdrawment from him, is vindicated and cleared, first, by apostolical authority, secondly, by Rich. Haynes his own pen. / Written by Matthew Caffyn ...	Caffyn, Matthew, 1628-1714.	1675 (1675)	Wing C207A; ESTC R173317	24,862	30

A RAGING WAVE Foming out his own Shame OR An ANSWER to a Book Lately Published by Richard Hains a Person withdrawn from Entituled A Protestation against Vsurpation Wherein appears such a measure of Envies bitterness heaped up pressed down and running over as the like in some Ages hath not appeared by his many false accusations and malicious insinuations thereby to provoke if possible both the chief Magistrate and all men of what degree soever to have suspicious thoughts of the innocent easily proved to have no other foundation but his own evil Imaginations Wherein also the Church of Southwater by him contemptuously rendred Papistical in their act of withdrawment from him is vindicated and cleared First by Apostolical Authority Secondly by Rich. Haynes his own pen. Written by Matthew Caffyn of Horsham in Sussex He that is first in his own cause seemeth just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him Prov. 8.17 Neither can they prove the things whereof they accuse me Act. 24.13 London Printed for Francis Smith at the Elephant and Castle near the Royal Exchange in Cornhill 1675. A Raging Wave foming out his own shame SUch is the nature of this my necessary opposition against the protestation of my cause-less adversary as that it may seem useful for Christians to remember how the saints and servants of God formerly did not only meet with perills without amongst men but also perils within among false bretheren 2. Cor. 11.16 and particularly how Alexander the coper-smith he very likely that Paul had excommunicated that he might learn not to blasphme 1 Tim. 1.20 did Paul much evil and greatly withstood his words 2 Tim. 4.14.15 as also how the Apostle prophesied that in the latter dayes by reason of some professors having the form of godliness becoming such as nevertheless were incontinent lovers of themselves covetous blasphemers false accusers fierce despisers of those that are good heady high-minded from whom the Apostle adviseth Timothy to withdraw perillous times should be 2. Tim. 3. Now to what degree these Scriptures are fulfilled in this my adversaries heaping up so many slaunders and abusive suggestions against the innocent with an out-cry made of usurpation and contempt of authority against them that both feareth God and honoureth the king and so all through grace easily proved to be no other then his own evil imagination the reader is desired to make judgement by his following treatise Whereas Richard Haynes in his first page declares his hopes that the Congregation will not take occasion from his tendernesse to perform his duty in the acknowledgment of his sin against God thereby to justifie cruelty against him we the congregation of Southwater being assembled and in the consideration of this matter do hereby declare our readynesse to comply with his hopes concerning us therein being well assured that although it appear most true as himself here and elsewhere suggesteth that before the controversy about his patent R. H. had been conquered by sin committed against the most high yet may we not nor are we conscious to our selves that at any time we did act or maintain any action of cruelty towards him upon that or any other account but as R. H. hath published his hopes concerning us in the case aforesaid we likewise are willing here to publish our hopes or desires concerning him namely that he would in the fear of him into whose hands to fall is a dreadful thing be aware of that spirit of excessive bitternesse and malitiousnesse against M. Caffyn the person reproving him in private for that his sin committed against the most high and that laboured for some time considerable to restore him whose bitternesse thus continuing and abounding against him gives us just occasion at least-wise to question that unfaignednesse of his repentance for the same which here willingly he would possesse the reader with the belief of pa. 6. and very probably may to a greater degree be questioned by him that knows more it seems then we do who nevertheless for good causes as was then at least-wise conceived did not publish the same at the time of R. H. his withdrawment in order to the tryal and examination thereof there being in his understanding as also in ours ground sufficient for other causes to withdraw from him and the rather do we here publish these our hopes or desires of him for that he may be well assured while here he thus lifteth up voice with so much pretended discontent against both us and M. C. for our excommunicating him about the Patent 't will be evidenced that himself elsewhere hath readily confessed that his displeasure against M. C. was not so much upon that account as for the case in difference before Now as touching our withdrawment from R. H. as one unworthy of communion the reader is to observe that we upon his earnest request did give him in writing a paper contayning the grounds of our proceedings the which surely had he intended honestly and uprightly he would have acquainted the reader with it and so endeavoured to shew if he could the unsoundnesse and imperfection thereof but oh what may be justly suspected when he shall not only be silent therein but shall also in the mean time frame to himself and publish to the world an abusive account with such alterations additions and omissions as might best suit with his envious disposition and then fight against the image thus of his own framing and setting up as an odious and detestable thing for saith he pa. 5. this new Lord contemptuusly speaking of me by his own arbitrary new laws without one word of God for it pronounced me excommunicate meerly for this thing purely civil alledging that whether lawful or unlawful it was all one first because that it was of an evil report amongst the common sort of the world secondly that it was an offence to the weak brethren Now that this account of R. H. is false and abusive in five respects may appear First by his saying that he was excommunicated meerly and in page the 4th saith only for this thing purely civil meaning the patent whenas he may well know and as the congregation in their paper sent unto him declares that for his unworthy carrage in censuring his brethren after an unchristian manner together with his resolutions to stand in the defence of his Patent notwithstanding all that was objected to the contrary they proceeded against him Secondly in that while the congregation with my self judged and also recorded his practise to be such as was an occasion of scandal and reproach to the truth he the better to render us odious and himself innocent as one may think saith that judgment was made against his practise because it was of an ill report amongst the common sort of the world as if among men sober serious and religious we had no cause to judge it of an evil report the which as it was never in our hearts to think so was it never declared by us

nor is there one word of that nature in the account which the Church gave him in writing of their proceedings Thirdly in that while the congregation with my self in the said account signified their being troubled and offended with this his injurious proceedings so much savouring of his preferring the gain of this world before the honour of the gospel thus lyable to reproach while he a professor thereof was both publickly in the market and elsewhere reproachfully spoken of to the great shame of some that heard it and the trouble and offence of all when they understood it while I say we thus signified our trouble and offence he abusively declares his withdrawment to be upon the account that his patent design was an offence to the weak brethren whom he saith he enquired after that he might know who they were as if there had been another party more strong that were not offended with him who yet to gratifie the weak brethren consented to his excommunication and the more intollerable is this abuse when it shall be considered with the account we first gave him wherein weak brethren is not so much as once named or signified together with our protestation since against it as a conceit of his own framing and which also as himself confesseth in this very page is denyed by us Fourthly in that while he knows that the congregation with my self did excommunicate him as himself confesseth pa. 4. he renders it here as if I singly after a Lordly manner did it Fifthsy in that while endevours were used by me and others and more might have been had he not obstinatly refused to reason the case with me to convince him from Gods word of the unlawfulnesse of his proceeding and as himself confesseth that Gods word was produced pa. 22. yet slanderously doth he here declare that without regard to the lawfulnes or unlawfulness thereof he was declared excommunicate without one word of God for it whose abuse herein may further appear in our answers to his exceptions against our proceedings only observe that while here he slaunderously saith that there was no regard to Gods word in the judgment given against him he elsewhere in pa. 29. speaking of what the congregation had regard unto in like manner slaunderously declareth that they did it only Mark to please their Idol forgetting surely what he had said in the 25. page namely that the congregation did it only Mark to please the cursing and reviling sons of Belial to which two only's of his I may well here add a third only and say that these malitious and inconsistant suggestions of his serves only to represent him a man making little conscience of what he saith and so his words deserving little credit The first exception which R. H. makes against our proceedings is with respect to the matter we having saith he p. 4. no just cause or warrant for the same In answer we first say that if it were deemed by him or should be so thought by any other that in our zeal and care to preserve the truth which we believe and profess blameless and that none should have occasion of stumbling or to speak evill of the good ways of God if I say upon this account we should be thought by him inregularly to have proceeded which yet we believe not surely were there not the spirit of malice and bitternesse for some other foregoing cause ruling in him he would not thus revile and reproachfully speak of us nor use those swelling words of usurpation tyranny Popish infallibility accompanied with abusive comparisons as if herein we might be numbred with the Church of Rome c. whose extravigant thoughts and pernitious expressions wherein he seems to out-strip the deeds of many men meerly moral we wish God may never lay it to his charge hereafter But secondly whereas Gods word declareth that to condemn or falsly accuse the just is abomination to the Lord. Pro. 17.15 2. Tim. 3.3 we judge our proceedings against R. H. is warrantable for that he as one too much governed by that spirit that is the accuser of the brethren thus did in his fury censure and condemn some of his brethren in the midst of the congregation and this without either offering proof to justifie the same or his humility to justifie him therein and whereas 't is written 1. Cor. 10.32.33 that Christians in order to their seeking the profit of others that they might be saved more then their own profit as also in order to their doing all things to the glory of God should give none offence neither to the Jew nor the gentile nor the Church of God but rather be thinking of and pressing after whatsoever things are of good report Phil. 4.8 it being saith the Apostle Rom. 14.15 contrary to charity yea and expresly evil to eat flesh or drink wine or any thing Mark whereby the brethren stumble or are offended or made weak Rom. 14.20.21 that is when the forbearance of eating or whatever else is offensive or scandalous is no transgression of Gods law whereas I say 't is thus recorded we judge our proceedings against R. H. just and warrantable for that he thus coveting and grasping after the wedge of gold did not only thereby greive and offend Christians here and elsewhere that heard thereof but also and more especially thereby deliver up the cause of the gospel as lyable to be condemned and crucified by the tongues of men while he a professor thereof thus to their great offence proceeded although his so much affected gain thereby as some think hath been put into such a bag of holes as that there will scarce remain thirty pence to be thrown up in the day of his recantation if God in mercy shall offer him such a blessing But whereas it possibly may be pleaded that the case of R. H. is not any thing that is sinful in it self and so no just cause for professors to be greived or offended nor others to stumble thereat or speak evil thereof My answer is that he may well know that professors generally never so esteemed his case but rather that his Patent-design savoured much of covetousnesse for that some parsons cleansing the same seed of non-such to his knowledge before his coveting the Patent and after another manner too and without any information from him whereby as good seed as his if not better was procured and whom R. H. confessed before witnesses ready to attest it if need be that by the law of God and man they might do it that some such persons I say are notwithstanding by this his Patent not only lyable to be hindred of this their lawful priviledge but also declared by him to have no right thereunto But if otherwise R. H. his Patent shall be deemed lawful in it self as by several it is yet is it no more then what might be pleaded concerning those meats which the Apostle pronounced clean and lawfull to be eaten both by the law of God and

to our Churches and have not communion with us that with some others he would refer the matter unto now to propose such unequal and unreasonable terms too I say again is this the man that tells the Reader of his zeal for impartial justice and not only so but as that which renders his condition the more to be lamented also is found pa. 12. not affraid to make solemn protestation in heaven before God the searcher of hearts that his designe is only Mark to obtain impartial justice what credit may be justly given to such a mans words let the reader judge Besides such are and so great a number his trangressions heaped up since his excommunication namely false accusations reviling and reproachful expressions as also his malitious suggestions as if we were Papistical Baptists for no other case but our conscionable testimony against his coveting the Patent whereby those of differing perswasions from us that have signified their dislike to his proceedings therein are suggested by him likewise to be Papistical as well as me together with what was chargeable before the Patent but for some causes then omitted which favour intended him therein though upon a designe to do him good perhaps might be however so 't is thought by some displeasing to God he being altogether unworthy thereof as his deportment since seems to declare I say such and so great is the unworthinesse that he still abounds in justly requiring his recantation to be as publike as his slanderous protestation as that it justly leaves not only our selves but others also under discouragements to trouble our selves with him while in such a spirit being ready to think that the same mighty hand of God that hath already begun to rebuke this spirit of envy that was in his abetter is the only sufficient and likely means to effect his real reformation and so his reconciliation and so much the more discouraged are some while they consider that if we had no just cause as indeed we have to accept against the referring the controversy c. R. H. himself notwithstanding all his pretenses is not willing to refer the matter indeed as some well know that have treated with him thereabout his profers having been no more what he may do provided he might have the liberty to refer the matter to whom and after what manner he pleaseth I know not then that he would with contentment stand by what end others should make of it according to the unerring rule Mark these are his own words pag. 10. which as himself to one or more have explained it and as the words seem to import is just nothing at all for if the judgment given shall not be according to the unerring rule in his judgment he presently proceeds to judge his Judges and so all the trouble and pains ends with no effect except thereby further to demonstrate his folly And whereas I have said that God hath already begun to rebuke the spirit of envy my meaning is that whereas a certain person formerly abetting and assisting R. H. in his envious designe against me was in humility made to confess the same and declare as followeth These may certifie whom it may concern that I being under the visiting hand of God am made freely and heartily to declare that whereas I have formerly been a co-actor with Rich. Haynes in the publication of some things wherein Mat. Caffyn is accused as an enemie to the Kings laws and his Prerogative together with other things relating to partiality and the like that I say therein I have done very evilly and do judge that it was disorderly and envyously done by me and so am heartily sorry for it and also farther declare that having discourse with M. C. am satisfied towards him and do desire from my heart to be reconciled to the Congregation declaring also that I do greatly fear that by my abetting and standing by R. H. as I have done that thereby I have done him wrong Since which time the said person is reconciled to the Congregation and whereas this so sudden and great alteration by the hand of God tended so much to the stripping and laying open the nature of that envious spirit by which R. H. and his consederate was governed he presently suggested abroad that the said person notwithstanding his confession of envy ruling in him still remained ready to declare that what he had informed him of was all true thereby insinuating that which is most false as the persons own testimony may evidence which is thus And whereas Rich. Haynes since is pleased to report that though I acknowledge the irregularity and enviousnesse of my proceedings yet that I do still declare that what I informed him of was all true as if therein I had still matters of charge against my brethren these are thereupon further to testifie that what things soever of truth formerly declared by me to R. Haynes which then in the spirit of malice uncharitably and abusively was wrested I now in the spirit of charity do judge that there was no just cause thereby given me to accuse my brethren And whereas R. H. once again suggesteth to the Reader that something he forbears to mention that is reported concerning me and wherefore in kindness saith he and in love to regain me now whether he that observes his writings may believe that he in a designe of love to me thus insinuateth which whoever shall hath surely attayned to a larger degree of faith then many others or whether it be a designe of envy for want of something evident whereby to accuse me suggesteth hereby a mountain which if he should have plainly declared his own conscience told him perhaps would not have appeared a mole-hill whether I say the Reader may believe it a designe of love to regain me or a designe of envy to abuse me is the question to be resolved and surely not difficult to resolve when it shall be considered 1st that he neither before this publication nor at any time since informed me of any such report and how then should it be a design of love to regain me while I know not in the least what it is that is reported nor 2ly would he give me any present account of this report what he may in future do I know not though provoked by letter sent by me by the hands of his neighbour James Smith to inform me with this provocation namely lest otherwise his refusing so to do that is to discover the report and the reporters should be judged and construed his not knowing any thing mrterirll by others repoeted as evill in me and so a most abusive suggestion and how then this his pretended designe of love to regain me while he thus keeps me ignorant of the evill that he pretends by his words to gain me out of can reasonably be otherwise then a designe of envy to abuse me let the reader judge And whereas 't is written that the wicked are like the troubled Sea that cannot rest whose waters casteth up mire and dirt whether R. H. his condition doeth not much correspond thereunto casting up such foul and dirty insinuations the like not to be sound surely among any sort of men that know us let the Reader judge by this further saying of R.H. namely that he cannot imagine what shall hinder you meaning the congregation from imprisoning banishing and burning of people for not submitting to your government if power and opportunity were not wanting what shall we render evill for evill God forbid And whereas R.H. is pleased to compare the proceedings of us the congregation to the illegall proceedings of one supposedly in authority that should become a usurper and Tyrant c. and saith p. 28. that our consciences must needs testify the truth thereof c. we the congregation thereupon do hereby testifie before all men the falshood thereof and protest against the same as a scandalous and pernitious parable Finally omitting several other injurious insinuations as if persons dared not without my consent by lawfull means to provide for their families and such like reasonless clamors not likely to have entertaynment in the hearts of reasonable men I now conclude wishing from my heart that God may not lay these many slaunderous accusations and envious insinuations to his charge so as hereafter to reward him accordingly for as God desired not neither may we the death of a sinner but rather that he return and live for the which that it may seasonably be accomplished in him to Gods glory and the Gospells honour nay prayers have been is and shall be to the almighty for him FINIS

concerned himself with some others in favour to his case more then any of those that did belong to us and that sent and signified their desires to me of such a conference and whereas he would possess the Reader that I have given a false account of what was spoken by some at this conference my answer is that as I am not conscious to my self of any such thing so also that they whom it concerns never as yet signified any such thing to me nor do I suppose that they ever will thus judge of me as R. H. doth when their word at that time spoken shall be brought again to their remembrance and although it be true that some present at this conference do entertain in communion one that hath a Patent yet is it not true that the same person hath a Patent upon like considerations as R. H. hath his as he would have the Reader believe for that the said persons Patent was not as ever I heard attended with any reproach or scandal to his profession to the probable injury of mens souls stumbling thereat nor yet with the grief and offence of his brethren deeming it insufferable all which were the most evident attendances of R. H. his Patent and besides while R. H. his invention as he terms it of threshing non such after the same manner as for many years men used to thresh Clover hath been by men learned in the law judged undeserving this mans art and inventions on the other hand hath been judged so far deserving and to advantage tending as that his Majesties pleasure is to entertain him as his Hydrographer if I mistake not the title And whereas he further suggesteth to the Reader that I very dishonestly withstood his appeal afterwards to the general Assemblie at London notwithstanding my promise to do what I could to have it there determined and this to his considerable cost by reason of his witnesses that he brought thither which saith he had I been honest and a Christian might have been prevented by my telling him before that there it could not be heard pa. 8. My answer is that in all honesty to him as a Christian I did tell him Jam. Smith a living witness thereof being with me in R. H. his parlor that by reason of an agreement formerly made by the general Assembly the case depending between he and us could not be there heard unlikely therefore that I should tell him I would do what I could that it might be there heard and determined till such time he did first make his appeal to the Countrey Assemblies and then it might for which cause I in reason could not ingage the Church or their messengers to repair thither for a hearing having also perfect knowledge that several cases presented to the general meeting before and of great concernment too had been for the present withstood upon the same account even their not having made their appeal elsewhere before now had he not been already corrected for this abusive charge that is my not telling him before for the prevention of his expence that his case could not then be heard I might reasonably have attributed it to his forgetfulness but when the reader shall consider as justly he may that he had now lying by him the testimony of my self and Jam. Smith under our hands without the least exception since against it both that he was and the very place where he was told of it what can this his publication now be less then a manifestation of his willingness to abuse me and more especially when it shall be considered with his own confession pa. 6. that they to wit the general assembly would not to use his own words hear the matter except it were examined by some other Congregation before And whereas he would have the Reader believe that I was the only instrument to hinder the hearing of his case at this meeting the truth is that neither I nor any other but himself only was the instrument to hinder it for that he refused to make his appeal first elswhere according to the method of our proceedings which upon good causes formerly we had agreed upon and whereas the congregation at Southwater determined not to appear at the general Assemblie at London because they understood that by reason of their former agreement the case depending between them and R. H. would not then be tryed if afterwards I had said though his bare saying that I did who hath said so much extravagantly is little that if the generall Assembly through his excessive urgencie should incline to the hearing his case when by their own former agreement the congregation of Southwater was absent I could and very reasonably too put it off for that time till another opportunity when the congregation might be there yet doth not this in the least suppose such a withstanding his appeal as he would have the Reader understand for that it was constantly allowed him there to appeal after his appeal first in the Countrey is not only declared by us but also confessed by himself pa. 6. but what may justly and reasonably be concluded from R.H. his so great earnestness to have his case heard at the general Assembly and when they did undertake it he not only found disregarding but also contemning what they had done besides that the impartiall justice which he pretends to be zealous for to be done by others is no other then himself to be quitted and others condemned according to his own judgment let the Reader judge As touching his frequent suggestions that he hath been put to great expences by his having up several witnesses let him reflect upon his own folly therein for had he received the information given by me and also by others that his case could not be heard there till he first appealed in the Countrey he might thereby have pretended both his trouble and charges nor may he only herein reflect upon his own folly but also in his having up witnesses the last meeting when his case was examined for while he to the abuse both of me and the Assembly gives such an account pa. 10. as supposethto the Reader that the examination of his witnesses was refused in truth they were never called forth by him to testifie any thing for him as I know of but while here he relates so much of his expensive troubles in reference to his witnesses I doubt he considereth not as iustly he might his expences otherwise and more particularly his expences to his transcriber he being a man learned in the law who either that he might the better revenge himself upon the object of his envy or that he might seem to men eminent or both who I say to use his own words elsewhere supplied with amendments his matter where he had not made it true english or perfect sense And whereas R.H. doth further declare that though it were unusuall for such cases to come to the general meeting yet his case might