Linguistic DNA - Concept Modelling Demonstrator

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	good_a	great_a	think_v	4,338	5	3.9369	3	true

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44015	Stigmai ageōmetrias, agroichias, antipoliteas, amatheias, or, Markes of the absurd geometry, rural language, Scottish church-politicks, and barbarismes of John Wallis professor of geometry and doctor of divinity by Thomas Hobbes.	Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679.	1657 (1657)	Wing H2261; ESTC R28097	39,934	36

that it is of the same quantity while it is in the same place but it may be of a different quantity when it goes out of its place as if the place added to or took any quantity from the body placed is nothing but meeâ— words T is true that the Body which swells changeth place but it is not by becoming it self a greater body but by admixtion of Aire or other body as when water riseth up in boyling it taketh in some parts of Aire But seeing the first place of the body is to the body equal and the second place equal to the same body the places must also be equal to one another and consequently the dimensions of the body remain equal in both places Sir When I said that such Doctrine was taught in the Universities I did not speak against the Universities but against such as you I have done with your Geometry which is one {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} As for your Elâ—quence let the Reader judge whether yourâ— or mine be the more muddy though I in plain sâ—olding should have out done you yet I have this excuse which you have not that I did but answer your challenge at that weapon which you thouâ—ht fit to choose The Catalogue of the hard language which you put in at the 3. and 4. pages of your School-discipline I acknowledge to be mine and would have been content you had put in all The titles you say I give you of Fooles Beasts and Asses I do not give you but drive back upon you which is no more then not to own them â—or the rest of the Catalogue I like it so well as you could not have pleased me better then by setting those passages together to make them more conspicuous that 's all the deâ—ence I will make to your accusations of that kinde And now I would have you to consider whether you will make the like deâ—ence against the â—aults that I shall â—inde in the Language of your School-Discipline I observe first the facetiousnesse of your Title page Due Correction for Mr. Hâ—â—bs or Schoole Discipline for not saying his lessons right what a quibble is this upon the word Lesson Besides you know it has taken winde for you vented it amongst your ac quaintance at Oxford then when my Lessons were but upon the Presse Do you think if you had pretermitted that peece of wit the opinion of your judgement would have been â—re the lesse But you were â—ot content with this but must make this Metaphor from the rod to take up a considerable part of your book in which there is scarce any thing that your self can think wittily said besides it Consider also these words of yours It is to be hoped that in time you may come to learn the Language for you be come to great A already And presently after were I great A before I would be willing to be so used I should wish my self little a a hundred times Sir you are a Doctor of Divinity and a professor of Geometry but do not deceive your self this does not passe for witt in these parts no nor generally at Oxford I have acquaintance there that will blush at the reading it Again in another place you have these words Then you catechize ut what 's your name Are you Geometricians who gave you that name c. Besides in other places such abundance of the like insipid concâ—ipts as would make men think if they were no otherwisâ— acquainted with the Universitv but by reading your Books that the dearth there of salt were very great If you have any passage more like to salt then these are excepting now and anon you may do wel to shew it your acquaintance lest they despise you For since the detection of your Geometry you have nothing left you else to defend you from contempt But I passe over this kinde of eloquence and come to somewhat yet more rurall Page 27. line 1. You say I have given Euclide his Lurry And again pag. 129. l. 11. Aâ—d And now he is lest to learn his Lurry I understand not the word Lurry I never read it before nor heard it as I remember but once and that was when a Clown threatning another Clown said he would give him such a Lurry come poope c. Such words as these do not become a learned mouth much lesse are fit to be Registred in the publick writings of a Doctor of Divinity In another place you have these words just the same to a Cows thumb a pretty Adage Page 2. But pree-thee tell me And again page 95. pree-thee tell me why doest thou ask me such a question and the like in many other places You cannot but know how casy it is and was for me to have spoken to you in the same language Why did I not Because I thought that amongst men that were civilly bred it would have redounded to my shame as you have cause to fear that this will redound to yours But what moved you to speak in that manner were you angry If I thought that the cause I could pardon it the sooner but it must be very great anger that can put a man that proâ—esseth to teach good manners so much out of his wits as to â—all into such a language as this of yours It was perhaps an imagination that you were talking to your inferiour which I will not granâ— you nor will the Heralds I beleeve trouble themselves to decide the question But howsoever I do not finde that civil men use to speak so to their inferious If you grant my learning but to be equal to yours which you may certainly do without very much disparageing of your self abroad in the world you may think it lesse insolence in me to speak so to you in respect of my age then for you to speak so to me In respect of your young Doctor-ship You will finde that for all your Doctor-ship your elders if otherwise of as goâ—d repute as yoâ— will be respected before you But I am not sure that this language of yours proceeded from thâ—t cause I am rather inclined to think you have not been enough in good company and that there is still somewhat leâ—t in your manners for which the honest youths â—of Hedington and Nincsey may compare with you â—or good Language as great a Doctor as you arâ— For my verses of the Peak though they be as ill in my opinion as I belâ—eve they are in yours and made long since yet are they not so obscene as that they ought to be blamed by Dr. Wallis I pray you Sir whereas you have these words in your Schoole-Discipline page 96. unlesse you will say that one and the same motion may be now and anon too what was the reason you put these words now and anon too in a different Character that makes them to be the more taken notice of Do you think that the story of the Minister that uttered his affection if it

{non-Roman} An extract of a Letter concerning the Grammaticall part of the Controversie between Mr. HOBBES and Dr. WALLIS Mr. Hobbes hath these words LOngiâ—udinem percuâ—sam motu uniformi cum impetu ubique ipsi B D â—quali Dr. Wallis saith cum were better out unlesse you would have impeâ—us to be onely a companion not a cause Mr. Hobbes answered it was thâ—Ablaâ—ive case of the manner The truth is the Ablatives case of the manner and cause both may be used with the conjunction cum as may be justified Cicero in the 2. de Nat. Deor. moliri aliquid cum labore operoso ac molesto and in his Oration for Câ—cinnâ— De se autem hoc praedicat Antiocho Ebulâ—j seâ—vo imperÃ¢sse ut in CaecinaÌ„ advenienâ—em cum serro invaderet Let us see then what Dr. Wallis objects against Tully where a Causality is imported Though we may use with in English yet not cum in Latine to kill with a sword importing this to have an instrumental or causal inâ—luence and not onely that it hâ—ngs by the mans side whilest some other weapon is made â—se of is not in Latine occidere cum gladio but gladio occidere This shews that the Dr. hath not forgot his Grammer for the subsequent examples as well as this rule are borrowed thence But yet he might have known that great Personages have never confined themselves to this Pedantry but have chosen to walk in a greater latitude Most of the Elegancies and Idioms of every Language are exceptions to his Grammar But since Mr. Hobbes saith it is the Ablative case of the manner there is no doubt it may be expressed with cum The Doctor in the mean time knew no more then what Lilly had taught him Alvarez would have taught him more And Vossâ—us in his Book de constructione Cap. 47. expressly teacheth Ablativâ—s causae instrumentâ— vel modi non Ã verbo regised Ã praepositione omissâ— Ã vel ab de Ã¨ vel ex prae aut cum ac praepositiones eas quandoque exprimi nisi quÃ²d cum ablativis instâ—umenti haud â—emerÃ¨ inveâ—ias and afterwards he sath non timerÃ¨ imitandum If this be so then did Mr. Hobbes speak Grammatically and with Tully but not usually And might not one retort â—pon the Doctor that Vossius is as great a Critick aâ—â—ie His next reflection is upon praetendiâ— scire this he saith is an Angliâ—isme If this be all his Accusation upon this score we shall lose maâ—y expresâ—ions that are used by the best Authors which I take to be good Latiâ—â€¦smes though they be also Anglicismes the latter being but an imitation of the former The Doâ—tor therefore was too fierce to condemn upon so general an account that which was not to have been censured for being an Anglicisme unlesse also it had been no Latinisme Mr. Hobbes replies that the Printer had omitted se He saith this mends the matter a little It is very likely for then it is just such another Anglicisme as that of Quintilian CÃ¹m loricatus in foro ambularet praetendebat se id metu facere The Doctor certanily was very negligent or else he could not have missed this in Robert Stephen Or hâ—ply he was resolved to condemn Quintilian for this and that other Anglicisme Ignorantia pâ—â—tendi non potest as all those that have used praetendo which are many and as good Authors as Docâ—â—r Wallis that makes his own Encomiasts not an English maâ— amongst them to wâ—â—te Aâ—glicismes Then â—e blâ—mes Tractatus â—â—jus partis tâ—rtiae in qâ—Ã¢ moâ—us magnitudo per se abstractâ— consideravimus teâ—minum hic statuo Here I â—â—st conâ—esse the exception is colonrable yet I can parallel it with the like objection made by Erasmâ—s agaâ—â—st Tully out of whom Erasmus qâ—otes this passage Dâ—ut Ã¹s commâ—tans Athents quoâ—â—am venâ—â€¦ negabant solvendi facultatem eâ—at aniâ—us ad â—e scrâ—bere and excuses it huâ— that Tully might have had at firâ—t in his thoughts vâ—â€¦bam or statuebam which he afterwards relinquished for erat animus and did not remember what he had antecedently wâ—ittâ—n which did not vary frâ—m his succeeding thoughâ—â— but words Aâ—d this excuse may passe with any who knows that Mr. Hobbes values not the study of wordâ— but as it sâ—rves to expresse his thoughts which were the same wheâ—her he wrotâ— in quÃ¢ metus mâ—gâ—iâ—udo per se aâ— abstractÃ¨ considerati sunt or consideravimus And if the Dr will make this so capital he must prove it voluntaâ—y and shew that it is greater then what is legible in the pâ—ny Letter of his Encomiast whom he would have to be beyond exceptâ—â—n Now â—ollowes his râ—diculous apolâ—giâ— for adducis malleum ut occidas muscam The cause why he did use that provâ—rb of his own phrasing was this Mr. Hobbes had taken a great deal of paines to demonstrate what Dr. Wallis thought he could have prov'd in shorâ— upon this occasion he objects ad ducis malleum ut occidas muscam which I shall suppose he intended to English thus you bring a beetle to kill a â—â—y Mr. Hobbes retorâ—ed that adduco was not used in that sense The Dr. vindicates himself thuâ— duco deduâ—â— reduco perduco produco c. signifie sâ—range things ergo adduco may be used in that sense whiâ—h is ã€ˆâ—Šã€‰ most ridicâ—loâ—â— kinde of arguing where we are but to take up our Language from others and not to coyue new phrâ—ses It is not the Grammar that shall secure the Dr. nor weak Analogies where Elegance comes in contest To jusâ—iâ—ie his expression he must have shewed it usu tritum or alledged the Authoriâ—y of some Author of great note for iâ— I have not the leasure to examâ—â€¦e his impertinent citations about those other compounds nor yet of that simple verb duco nay to justifie his saying he hath not brought one parallel example He talkes indeed very high that duco â—ith its compounds iâ— a word of a large signification amongst the rest to Bring fetch carry c. iâ— so exceeding frequent â—n all Authors Plautus Terence Tully Caâ—ar Tacitus Pliny Seneca Virgil Horace Ovid Claudian c that he must needs be either maliciously blind or a very stranger to the Latine tongue that doth not know it or câ—n have the face to denie it ã€ˆâ—Šã€‰ â—ead what will â—e my doom for not allowing his Latine yet ã€ˆâ—Šã€‰ must professe I dare secure the Dr for having read all Authors notwithstanding his assertion and I hope he will do the like for me And for those which he hath read had he brought no better proofes then these he had I am sure been whipped soundly in Westminster-School for hiâ— impudence as well as igâ—orâ—nce by the learned Mâ—ster therof aâ— present But I daâ—e fâ—â—ther aâ—â€¦m the Dr. hath noâ— read in this point any but onely consulted with Robeâ—t Sâ—ephen's Thesaurus Liâ—guae Laâ—inae whence he hath borrowed his allegations in adduco and for

subjects in their duty he may take it from you again whensoever he shal see you instruct them wiâ—h undutiful and seditious principles And if the Sogeraign power give me command though without the ceremony of imposition of hands to teach the Doctrine of my Leviathan in the Pulpit why am not I if my Doctrine and life be as good as yours a Minister as well as you and as publick a person as you are For publick person primarily is none but the civil Soveraign and so secondaâ—ily all that are imployed in the execution of any part of the publick Charge For all are his Ministers and therefore also Christs Ministers because he is â—o and other Ministers are but his Vicars and ought not to do or say any thing to his people contrary to the intention of the Soveraign in giving them their Commission Again if you have in your Commission a power to Exâ—ommunicate how can you think that your Soveraigâ— who gave you that Commission intended it for a commission to Excommunicate himself that is as long as he stands Excommunicate to deprive him of his Kingdom If all Subjects were of your minde as I hope they will never be they will have a very unquiet life And yet this has as I have often heard been practised in Scotland when Ministers holding your principles had power enough though no right to do it And for Administration of the Sacraments if by the Supream power of the Common-wealth it were commited to such of the Laity as know how it ought to be done as well as you they would ipsâ— facto be Ministers as good as you Likewise the right of Ordination of Ministers depends not now on the Imposition of hands of a Minister or Presbytery but on the authority of the Christian Soveraign Christs immediâ—t Vicar and supream Governour of all Persons and Judge of all causes both spiritual and temporal in his own Dominions which I beleeve you will not denie This being evident what Acts are those of yours which you call Authoritative and receive not from the Authority of the civil power A Constable does the acts of a Constable authoritatively in that sense Thereâ—ore you can no otherwayes claime your power then a Constable claimeth his who does not exercise his Office in the Conâ—â—ablery of another But you â—orget that the Scribes and the Pharisees â—it no more in Moses Chaire You would have every Minister to be a Minister of the Universal Church and that it be lawful for you to preach your Doctrine at Rome if you would be pleased to try you would finde the Contrary You bring no argument for it that looks like reasâ—n Examples prove nothing where persons times and other circumstances differ as they differ very much now when Kings are Christians from what they were then when Kings perâ—ecuted Christians It is eaâ—ie to perceive what you aime at You woul fain have Market-day Lectures set up by authority not by the authority of the Civil power but by the authority of example of the Apostles in the Emission of Preachers to ã€ˆâ—Šã€‰ Iâ—fidels not knowing that any Christian may lawfully preach to the Infidels that is to say proclaime unto them that Jesus is the Mesiah without need of being other wayes made a Minister as the Deacons did in the Apostles time nor that many teachers unlesse they can agree better do any thing else but prepare men for faction nay rather you know it well enough but it conduces to your end upon the Market-dayes to dispose at once both Town and Country under a false pretence of obedience to God to a Neglecting of the Commandments of the Civil Soveraign and make the Subject to be wholly ruled by your selves wherein you have already found your selves deceived You know how to trouble and sometimes undâ—e a â—lack Government and had need to be warily lookt to but are not fit to hold the reiâ—es And how should you being men of so little judgement as not to see the Necessity of unity in the Governour and of Absolute obedience in the Governed as is manifest out of the place of your Elenchus above recited The Doctrine of the duty of private men in a Common-wealth is much more difficult not onely then the knowledge of your symbols but also then the knowledge of Gâ—ometry it self How then do you think when you erre so grosly in a few Equations and in the use of most common words you should be fit to Govern so great Nations as England Ireland and Scotland or so much as to teach them For it is not reading but judgement that enables one man to teach another I have one thing more to adde and that is the disaffection I am charged with all to the Universities Concerning the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge I ever held them for the greatest and Noblest means of advancing learning of all kinds where they should be therein imployed as being â—urnished with large endowments and other helps of Study and frequent with abundance of young Gentlemen of good families â—â—d good breeding from their childe hood On the other side in case the same means and the same wits should be imployed in the advancing of the Doctrines that tend to the weakning of the publick and strengthning of the power of any private ambitious party they would also be very effectual for that And consequently that if any Doctriâ—e tending â—o the diminishing of the civil power were taught there not that the Universities were to blame but onely those men that in the Universities either in Lectures Sermons printed Books or Thesis did teach such Doctrine to their hearâ—rs or readers Now yoâ— know very well that in the time of the Roman Religion the power of the Pope in England was upheld principally by such teachers in the Universities You kâ—ow also how much the Divines that held the â—ame princiâ—les in Church Government with you have contributed to our late troubles Can I therefore be justly taxed with disaffection to the Universities for wishing this to be reformed And it hath pleased God of late to reform it in a great measure and indeed as I thought totally when out comes this your Thesis boldly maintained to shew the contrary Nor can I yet cal this your Doctrine the Doctrine of the Vniverâ—ity bâ—t surely it wil not be unrâ—asonable to think so if by publick act of the Vniversity it be not disavowed which done and that as often as there shall be need there can be no longer doubt but that the Vniversities of England are not onely the Noblest of all Christian Vniversities â—ut also absolutly of the greatst benefit to this Common wealth that can be imagined except that benefit of the head it self that uniteth and ruleth all I have not here perticularized at length all the ill consequences that may be deduced fromthis Thesis of yours because I may when further provoked have somewhat to say that is new So much for the 3. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman}

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