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his_o sect._n 12._o six_o in_o that_o which_o he_o speak_v concern_v my_o three_o writing_n he_o multipli_v injury_n 1._o in_o misreport_v my_o intent_n in_o the_o three_o wrighting_n which_o be_v not_o to_o make_v he_o odious_a to_o the_o classis_fw-la nor_o to_o teach_v the_o elder_n how_o to_o fill_v their_o mouth_n with_o reproach_n of_o he_o nor_o to_o stir_v up_o and_o incense_v the_o congregation_n against_o he_o but_o ingenuous_o and_o candid_o to_o report_v the_o truth_n whereunto_o i_o be_v call_v and_o compel_v for_o the_o necessary_a clear_n of_o myself_o &_o for_o the_o remove_v all_o in_o some_o and_o prevention_n in_o other_o of_o causeless_o praejudices_fw-la and_o jealousy_n which_o already_o do_v or_o by_o my_o silence_n may_v arise_v in_o their_o mind_n against_o i_o by_o his_o suggestion_n will_v the_o writing_n of_o those_o thing_n accuse_v undermine_v and_o defame_v he_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n that_o his_o cause_n be_v not_o very_o good_a and_o if_o my_o writing_n those_o particular_n be_v a_o fault_n who_o be_v to_o blame_v for_o it_o but_o he_o who_o constrain_v i_o thereunto_o 2._o in_o charge_v i_o with_o unjust_a uprayd_v of_o he_o for_o my_o assistance_n of_o he_o and_o with_o a_o vain_a boast_n of_o myself_o to_o convince_v he_o of_o ill_o requite_v i_o yea_o of_o reward_v evil_a for_o good_a i_o remember_v what_o labour_n and_o patience_n i_o have_v exercise_v for_o his_o and_o the_o church_n peace_n this_o be_v no_o uprayd_v much_o less_o unjust_a nor_o vain_a boast_n but_o a_o just_a declaration_n of_o the_o truth_n the_o case_n require_v it_o and_o a_o sad_a complaint_n of_o his_o unthanckfullnes_n how_o he_o have_v answer_v it_o will_v appear_v in_o the_o examination_n of_o sect._n 2._o 8._o and_o 40._o whereunto_o as_o he_o
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