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A08899 A dialogue agaynst the tyrannye of the Papistes. Translated out of Latin into Englysse, by E.C.; Dialogus contra papistarum tyrannidem. English. Haddon, Walter, 1516-1572, attributed name.; Seres, William, d. ca. 1579.; E. C., fl. 1562. 1562 (1562) STC 19176; ESTC S120121 18,429 52

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downe afore him askinge pardon requesting mercy and offering him the keyes of their town He like a famished and hungry wolfe rushing in amongst the poore seely sheepe first and formost not without great impietie commaunded their chiefe preacher or Minister to be apprehended and hanged and afterward without anye respecte eyther of kinde or of age slewe moste shamefullye and wickedlye the rest of the common people The Mareshall Saint Andrew folowing the crueltye of Thaumale thinking his confederates hadde not spilt bloude inoughe at Poityers highinge him thither in great post with sworde shot and sundrye other tormentes oppressed and destroyed a sely company of innocent women and yonge folke that had escaped the handes of the foremer butchers who belike had had their fyll of them afore or elles were ouerweried with to much bloudshed Whose acte was so much more detestable then the rest because not contented with the crueltye of others he heaped mischiefe vppon myschyefe and bloude vppon bloude There is another acte committed besides this against al order nature law humanity wherof albeit I name not the Aucthor yet is it true yea alas to trewe and so shamefull a matter as of the same Countreimen it is scant to be beleaued For when as the Counte Palatine one of the Princes of the Empire hadde deliuered to one of the Gentlemen of his Courte certaine packettes of letters to carye to the Prince of 〈◊〉 there was layed for him by the waye a Popish murtherer that intercepted the Messenger ●…lew him toke his letters frō him and brought them to the Guise and his complices Lo in one offence howe manye enormityes in one wickednesse howe manye detestable crueltyes But here an ende of these particuler calamities for these same menne daylye offende more and more and ware more cruell yea and so cruell all the whole companye of theym as a man can scarce imagine Cecin These thinges be horrible if so be they be true The greate Turke him selfe coulde not deale in these matters more cruelly Heluid Naye if al thinges be dulye considered this furye ercedes the rage and broyles of all tymes At the begynnynge of the common wealthe of Roome it was a verye lame●…table season to see to when as the Comminalty seuered from the Nobility by reason of sundry great wronges receiued at their handes assembled themselues in Mount Auentine Notwithstandinge they bridled them selues so in that rage that they vsed no force of weapon against their aduersari es Mary now when the cōmon wealth was growen to more perfection and riches the mal●…e of the people growinge also greater there folowed verye sore dyspleasures betwene sundrye sortes of the Citizins Amongst the which if you consider the horrible Stirre of the Triumuiri ye shall not finde it was so full of crueltye as this present broyle of the Papistes is For in that desolation of the Common wealthe the nobles only were inuaded neither was there any touchid but they they alone were held taken as condēned persons But this faction of the Papistes rūneth hedlong vpon al sortes of men neyther respecting the kinde nor age of any nor yet waiyng eyther the desertes or vertues of anye But doe condemne all to death that accordinge to the rule of the gospel doe truly and sincerely worship God the Father and his Sonne Iesus Christ. Greece when as it had bene a longe time tossed turmoiled with most cruel dissentions was content at last to lette go forget al wrongs which was both an wholesome medicine for their sicke myndes and also a good meane to redresse all their ciuil hurly burlyes The Popish prelates they wil neyther geue nor take any other condiciōs of concord and vnitie but that the Idol of Roome may still be adored and kneeled to and that all other powers states and causes finallye all maner of holye or prophaine matters may be vnder his aucthoritie and iurisdiction The Turke albeit he maketh Christian menne his slaues and bondemen yet suffreth he them to liue after their owne religion But the professours of the gospell they must either worship the greate God of Roome without exception or els they must haue their throtes cutte and leese their lifes Cecin These thynges be to true that you talke of And it hath ofte ben my chaūce to muse very much how it commeth to passe that thys opinion is so surely setled and almost grounded in the peoples mindes that there ought to be had so great and so due reuerence to the B. of Roome as it were to an other God in earth that eche worde that commeth out of his mouthe shoulde be taken for an Oracle And finallye that all maner of meetynges together and Councelles be they neuer so solempne and generall shoulde be inferiour and subiect to his aucthoritie Heluid There may be hereof alledged many and sundrye causes but the chiefest of them all and of greatest force is Euyll Custome Which Cipriane doeth verye aptelye terme A Contynuance of Errour It is this same continuance of Errour O Cecinna whiche hauinge ones bene planted by custome and in proces of yeares taken roote doth exercise great Tirannye in mens mindes and can hardly of a long season be forgotten Moreouer thys same great Potentate of Roome hath ordered the matter so that he hath brought and conueyed vnto hym selfe the fruytes profittes dignities prefermentes and promotions of all quarters of the world which he doth verye liberallye dispose amonge his adherentes wher withall they being so largely rewarded and benefited can not but honour so good a benefactour hang al together on his sleeue cleaue to him lyke burres and rather hee content to loose their lifes then forgo so great commodities There may be added hereunto a thirde cause which is also very much materiall how that the Sea of Roome geueth oute great store of pardons and graunteth almost a free liberty both to saye and doe all maner of euill and as for mens maners there is small hede or regard taken therto But if there chaūce any fault or trespasse to be committed money will strayte heale all the matter and vnder Benedicite thoffender shalbe absolued Wherfore where forgeuenes of sinnes may so easily be procured and where be so liberall rewardes stirring for the pleasures receiued it is no maruaile at all though there be both a great number of ambitious and couetous men abrode in the world and also as great routes swarmes of wicked offendors that be nothing ashamed of their euill doinges wherof they loke for litle or no punishment at al and frō whēce they can as oft as they lust be so easilie quit and discharged Cecin Your talke seemeth vnto me verye probable How be it the Popish propsters as you knowe make theyr reckeninge from Peter and they doe deriue a certeyne continuance of theyr religion from the auncient sea of the Bishops of Rome whiche they haue also at lengthe gotten confirmed with the opinions of certaine deuines and therefore
A Dialogue agaynst the Tyrannye of the Papistes Translated out of Latin into Englyshe by E. C. 17. Septembris 1562. VV. S. A Dialogue agaynst the Tyrannye of the Papistes The speakers names Aul●…s Cecinna Cneus Heluidius Cecin HOwe goeth the woorlde Heluidius al well why are you thus sad and pensiue Heluidius I do well inough I thanke God my selfe Cecinna Marye in these so lamētable times wherin Sathan so rageth and his Ministers bestirre them w t fier sword most pitifully tormenting Chryst in his poore members spoilinge and murtheringe them by all meanes most cruelly how can any good man be eyther pleasant or mery Cecin It is verie true that you saye notwithstandinge we must haue pacience●…●…ithall For almighty God will wh●… 〈◊〉 seeth his time succoure his afflicted people and ouerthrowe with the breath of his mouth the Trowpes and bandes of our enemies be they neuer ●…tragious or many in number Heluid God wil assist in very dede those that be his and both hath alreadye done it doeth it daily How be it he doth not alwaies geue them the victory King Pharao he helde the Israelites long in captiuitye The Philistines vanquished them ofte in battaile Nabuchodonosor banished them out of their Countrey And Antiochus slew the people of god most lamentablye in the holye Temple offering them vp euen vpon the verye aulters for a sacrifice to their Idols Euen as therfore by reason of this destruction of Gods people and decaye of all good and godly thinges Moses Samuel Tobias Mathathias and a number of other good men made continuall mone and lamentacion So were it very hard for vs seing so many most constant men of god partly in great hazarde and daunger and part moste miserablye wounded lifting their handes vp to the heauens Not to haue oure hartes dieplie perced therwithall and to sighe and grone to our selfes for their so great calamities Which as we do now but onelye heare of so may we perhappes feele them ere it be longe our selues You are not ignoraunt howe that we are but verye lately by the speciall goodnesse of God crept out of the like miseries the burnt bones of oure owne people euen smoking well nere to this day Wherefore seing our enemies and those so nighe so cruell and so bloudy doe beginne as you would saye to thunder and lighten a fresh I can not but tremble quake for feare For howe will they spoile other Nations trowe you that so willingly spill their owne peoples bloud Cecin Your talke I wot nere how beginneth to make me very much afraide also it is so feareful and terrible But I pray you tel me Doe the papistes vse such cruelty still in Fraunce Heluid Yea truly in so much as their violence and tirannie doeth daily encrease more and more And hereof first and foremost maye the Towne of Wassy be a witnes Wherethorowe as the Duke of Guise passed with certeine bandes of armed men finding the people seruing of God with psalmes and hi●…es He commaunded his souldiars to set vpon the sely vnarmed creatures who wounded and slew the poore innocentes euen in the middest of their prayers Hereof may also be a witnes that same cruel yea that horrible and bloudye decree which all ages shal speake of and hate the remembraunce whereof al our posteritie shall detest and abhorre For it is a horryble and straunge kynde of crueltye to take those that be quiet and peceable citizins without cause complaint or yet suspicion of crime to hale and drag theim vp and downe the strete to stab them thorow with their weapōs to drown them in the riuers so to put them to most terrible execution euen onely for y ● they are thought to be professors of the gospel The for●…e of this most mōstrous edict diuerse god ly citizins of Paris felt and a nūber of other good people that dwelt there about which were most shamefully mur thered The riuer of Seyne felte it also ●…brued wyth y ● bloud of the dead that swam vp down the chanel and were caried with the streame from the town of Seyne to the City of Paris And no lesse did the Captaine of Abbeville fele the same of late whom together with his Sonne and certayne other Noblemen of his family these fierse and wicked bloude suckers by pretence of the said cruel edict mangled and murthered contrarye to all right and equitye Because thys worthye Gentilman a stout worthy gentilman in dede spake somwhat boldly frankly of an vnity agrement to be cōcluded betwirt them Besides this Rhoane that famous and florishinge Citye can witnesse the same Where the forte that was thon●…ly defence of the Citie was continually shaken with the roaring shot of y ● Cannon the Countrey about daily spoyled with Trowpes of horsmen the cityzens lay rounde about miserably slaine in defending their Countrey Neyther had this most worthy Citye stoode till this daye ne hadde ▪ there bene anye liuing creature left therein aliue vnles almightye God taking pitie vppon the besieged and distressed ▪ people hadde through the singular manhoode of the Citizins and Townes men putte the Daumale to the foyle that laye batteringe the walles compellinge him also at length for all his wrath and furie to depart with great dishonour But what talke I of the Duke Dawmale alone Let the rest of the princes and noble men be cowpled with him which be not onely felowes and cooperteners of hys factyon but also chyefe Authoures captaynes of this cruelty the Duke of Guise I meane the Constable and the Mareshall Saint Andrew who marchinge to the Towne of Bloys with moost terrible force of Warre full of threates and gaping after bloude met before they came to the gates a pitifull company of the Townes men fallinge downe vppon their knees before them offering them the keyes of their gates committinge them selues and all that they had into their handes criynge to them for morcye and humblye entreating them to spare their owne and the rest of the Citizins liues Howe be it these proude and stately Lordes besydes that they refused to heare the request of this meeke and miserable multitude added also to their bloudy pourpose most spitefull and bitter wordes Telling them that their Canons shuld serue in stede of keyes and wyth their swordes would make their entrye into the towne Wherin they deceiued them neuer a whit for both they bet downe their walles with their artillerye and put the townes men of al sortes some to most cruell and sodaine death being giltye of no offence at all but onely for that they had embraced that fourme of religion whiche was afore establyshed by a solemne Edict and decree made in the moneth of Ianuary last past And nowe to retourne againe to the Duke Daumale whose madnesse passeth all measure when as the naked and innocent inhabitauntes of Pont Du Mer laying awaye their weapons fell flat