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A03500	A sermon of obedience especially vnto authoritie ecclesiasticall, wherein the principall controuersies of our church are handled, and many of their obiections which are refractorie to the gouernment established, answered, though briefly as time and place could permit: being preached at a visitation of the right worshipfull M.D. Hinton,in Couentry. By Fran: Holyoke.	Holyoake, Francis, 1567-1653.	1613 (1613)	STC 13623; ESTC S115476	21,457	38

thou hearest the preacher preach that which is neither the worde of God nor agreeable vnto it carry the point to be discussed by some ministers that be in autority if he himselfe do not satisfy thee and let the spirit of the Prophets bee subiect vnto the Prophets and if it proue to bee an error hee may either confesse his fault and renounce his error or else til such time be restrained In the meane time vnlesse thou canst proue by this meanes the doctrine deliuered false thou art bound to reverence it to receiue it to obey it as the word of God Ob The second maine obiection is the life of the minister because God sometimes suffereth some covetous Iudasses some lasciuious sonnes of Elie some prophane Epicures to be in the ministerie they thinke there is no reverence due vnto them as they are ministers of God nor obedience vnto the word delivered by them as vnto the word of God Ans This indeed is a great stumbling blocke which hath and doth cause many to fall And it were to bee wished that by the censures of the church such offences were removed either by reclaiming the offendors and bringing them into order or els by suspending them from their orders vntill they amend seeing as Hophne Phineas they make the Lords sacrifices to be abhorred Yet the Lorde suffreth such to trie vs whether we wil hereat take offence and refuse the precious pearle offered vnto vs because it is brought vnto vs in an vncleane boxe To meete with this evill our Saviour himselfe hath given vs a lesson Mat. 23. The Scribes and Pharesies sit in Moses chaire all things therefore which they shall command you to obserue obserue and do ye but according to their workes do ye not for they say and do not S. Augustine in his 46. tract vpon S. Iohn writeth thus Habet ovile domini praepositos filios mercenarios Sed mercenarij etiam necessarij sunt multi quippe in ecclesia commoda terren a sectantes Christum tamen praedicant per eos vox Christi auditur sequuntur oves non mercenarium sed vocem pastoris per mercenarium Sedēdo enim cathedrā Mosi legem Dei docent ergo per illos Deus docet c. The sheepfold of Christ hath set over it sonnes hirelings And yet the hirelings also are necessary for there are manie in the church which follow after worldly commodities and yet preach Christ and by them is the voice of Christ heard the sheepe followe not the hireling but the voice of the sheepheard by the hireling for sitting in Moses chaire they teach the law of God therefore by them God teacheth And he alleadgeth S. Paul Phil. 1.15 sōe preach Christ of envy and contention some of a willing minde some of despight thinking to adde affliction to his bonds but howsoeuer hee was glad that Christ was preached and Phil 2.21 c. multis itaque prosunt dicendo quae non faciunt sed longe pluribus prodessent faciendo quae dicunt they doe much good vnto many in saying that which they do not but much more should they do by doing that which they say And in his second booke contra Cresconium Grammaticum he answereth an obiection made by the Donatists out of the 50. Psalme What hast thou to doe to preach my lawes c. He expoundeth it thus frustra hoc fit quantum ad te attinet non tibi prodest hoc tibi ad iudicium damnationis non ad meritum salutis valebit In vaine thou doest it as concerning thy selfe this shall availe thee nothing this shall not bee any meanes to saue thee but to condemne thee but they that shall heare the worde at such a mans mouth beleue it and obey it though he be damned yet they shall be saued because they followed the counsell of our Saviour Christ Mat. 23. that which they say doe but after their workes doe not c. Ob They that are evill men and vnsanctified cannot convert soules Resp Some I knowe and those of the precisest sort both of ministers and people haue held that a formalist for so they tearme al those that in the feare of God obedience vnto the Prince conforme thēselues vnto the laws prescribed cannot convert soules though he be never so learned or vpright in his conversation they haue that gift themselues S. Augustin contra epist Parmeniani lib. 2. cap. 11. Carnales homines non posse spiritales filios procreare Ioh. 3. quod natum est ex carne caro est quod natum ex spiritu spiritus est Carnall men cannot beget spirituall children because the Evangelist saith that which is borne of the flesh is fleshly Quasi nos dicamus per seipsum quemlibet hominem spiritales filios generare non pro Evangelium in cuius praedicatione spiritus sanctus operatur 1. Cor. 4. ego vos genui per Euangelium Euangelium autem fur quoque Iudas sine detrimento fidelium praedicauit As if so be we may say that any man of himselfe can beget spirituall children and not by the Gospell in the preaching whereof the holy Ghost worketh As S. Paul saith 1. Cor. 4. I haue begotten you by the Gospell and the theefe Iudas preached the Gospell without any detriment to the faithfull By this that hath been said in answere vnto the second obiection here ariseth this conclusion That evil and wicked men being ministers of the Gospell are to bee heard 2. That the word of God preached by them is to be receiued and obeyed as Gods word and may bee profitable to our saluation 3. That they notwithstanding are to be reverenced for the calling place sake And thus much for the first branch of obedience in hearing Now for obedience vnto ecclesiasticall lawes and constitutions D. H. Zanchie sheweth how that many not knowing the difference betweene humane traditions and ecclesiasticall constitutions brand them both with one blacke marke The necessitie of these he proueth at large by vnanswerable arguments to bee such as without the which concord peace and vnitie order nor decency can be obserued nor the Church of God consist or be nor any publike worship of God bee preserued and maintained Yet the necessity of these or those in particuler is not such as that they are accounted necessary to salvation or that of themselues they bind the conscience with a religious observation of them So in the preface to the booke of commō prayer where reasons are giuen of the abolishing of some ceremonies and the retaining of others is declared the selfe same thing and that many of these in our Church may vpon iust causes which the Church state shall thinke good be changed or altered therefore are not held equall in autority to the word of God And we knowe there is as great diversitie in the mindes of men as is in their visages therefore if some orders should not be set down

A Sermon of Obedience Especially vnto Authoritie Ecclesiasticall wherein the principall controuersies of our Church are handled and many of their Obiections which are refractorie to the gouernment established answered though briefly as time and place could permit Being preached at a Visitation of the right Worshipfull M.D. Hinton in Couentry By FRAN HOLYOKE AT OXFORD Printed by Ioseph Barnes and are to be sold by John Barnes dwelling neere Holborne Conduit 1613. Mr. F. H. I haue pervsed your sermon for the plainenes of words and sentences like your selfe who naturally are an enimy to curiosity For matter sound and the doctrine necessary both for the time especially for that place I knowe what tumultuous rumors it bred and how it was by many more hainously taken then either heresie or treason how they traduced you and imagined what evill they could against you as both many in that Citty and the whole Country about can well witnesse And yet as you said you knewe no cause why vnlesse it were for that one voice which you vrged among them to wit Obedience a word indeed harsh sounding in the eares of humorists and especially to them in that place who challenge 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by prescription And howsoeuer me thought you touched them more neere the quick the last time you preached there before which was at the last Visitation of the late reverend Bishop deceased yet this was more hainously taken for they say that none but you euer durst presume so much in that place being a stranger to preach a doctrine which before hand you knew would be so offensiue and where as ignorance of their humors at first might be some excuse yet this now must needs be great presumption If the whole Citty should bee gouerned by men of that faction there would be an odde gouernment As appeared a yeere or two since when some of them were in speciall autority one of them pulled downe the picture of Christ from the market crosse as a monument of superstition hauing beene there many many hūdred yeeres placed in the rome the picture of an naked womā without superstitiō til many of the graue ancients of the Citty seeing the absurdity caused it to bee taken down the Princes armes to be set in place Another broke in peeces and defaced the picture of a doue which had hung ouer the font time out of minde No marvell therefore if that sort of giddie heads would haue pulled you out of the pulpit as since some of them haue professed they had purposed That it may appeare vnto all men what this sermon was that raised such anger I haue published it not altogether against your minde that it might answere for it selfe And knowing that you owe even more then your selfe to that worthy Gentleman your Patron I haue prefixed his name by way of Dedication without other epistle for I knowe if you were to write vnto him your selfe you could neither expresse your harty affection towards him his deserts towards you nor his worthinesse as well for the execution of iustice in his place as for his vprightnesse every way for his setled iudgement in religion and his integrity of practise giuing himselfe an example of obedience in all things God blesse your studies that you may profit Gods Church and present him your selfe with greater matters hereafter Those few things which you adde in the ende which you told me you could not then deliuer for want of time I haue marked them with this marke in the margent that no caveller may find shew to except that this is not the same which you deliuered Your very louing friend I.D.H. A SERMON OF OBEDIENCE HEB. 13.17 Obey them that haue the ouersight of you submit your selues for they watch for your soules as they that must giue accounts that they may doe it with ioy and not with griefe for that is vnprofitable for you I Wil not now spend time to discusse who was the writer of this epistle which is confessed almost of all to bee canonicall For as St. Gregorie vpon Iob saith it is to no purpose to search and enquire who is the writer of that booke of which we acknowledge the holy Ghost to be the author This 13. Chapter containeth in it many exhortations to the performance of the duties of the second table cōcerning our loue to our neighbour And in this 17 verse is a speciall exhortation to honor and obey our superiors which is the first and principall commandement of the second table hauing this prerogatiue to be the first commandement with promise For the words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 are taken by some to be civill magistrates of others to bee Ecclesiasticall gouernors The word as the great greeke Etymologist doth expound it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 one that is chiefe of a tribe society or company who excelleth in wealth and for that cause is selected and chosen aboue the rest to rule over others But the hebrew text hath 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 your teachers and instructers And therefore howsoever it may include the temporall gouernours yet is it chiefly and primarily to bee vnderstood of spirituall For the hebrew by the iudgement of divers graue autors is the true vernacle and authentique copie of this epistle And where it followeth For they watch for your soules doth more properly belong to the ecclesiasticall then civill gouernors The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath two significations to giue eare or bee persuaded vnto and to obey 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Zenop. verbis persuadeor to be persuaded by words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 legi obsequens Plato to be obediēt to laws So the hebrew word here vsed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is both to giue eare and to obey as they that are but meanely read in the hebrew doe easily knowe The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth to yeeld vnto or submit your selues vnto or be ruled by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Iliad a. Si tibi omni in re morem geram Eurip 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nil dans loci senectuti The hebrew hath 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 humble your selues vnder their hands submit your selues vnto them yeeld vnto thē As if the Apostle should say harkē diligētly vnto the voice of your teachers follow their instructions and admonitions obey the commandements constitutions and ordinances of them or other your gouernors if you chance to bee disobedient in some things shewe not your selues stubborne or obstinate but submit your selues vnto them and suppose they bee 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 rigidi morosi austere severe or otherwise faulty beare with thē submit your selues to their autority as vnto Gods substitutes This being the summe and meaning The parts are two First an exhortation or rather a commandement vnto inferiors to bee obedient vnto those that bee in authoritie over them to instruct and gouerne them Secondly reasons to inforce obedience vnto this commandement The first reason is drawne from