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A57068 The tabernacle of God with men, or, The visible church reformed a discourse of the matter and discipline of the visible church, tending to reformation / by Richard Resbury ... Resbury, Richard, 1607-1674. 1649 (1649) Wing R1136A; ESTC R32282 56,135 82

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scandalous sinner to personall leaven malice and wickednesse v. 8.4 The same to whom he gives direction for avoiding familiar society with a scandalous brother interpreting the meaning of a former Epistle v. 9 10 11. they are to judge of those within v. 12. and put away from among themselves that wicked person v. 13. Secondly for loosing 2 Cor. 2. the same whom he had formerly made heavy v. 1 2. by rebuking in the former Epistle that from their obedience and repentance he might have much joy of them when he should come to them v. 3 4. whom in part he clears v. 5. They are the many by whom the incestuous Person was rebuked v. 6. and they are to forgive and comfort him v 7.8 The same to whom the Apostle wrote to make proof of their obedience v. 9. with whom as he formerly joyned in binding so now in loosing v. 10 they are stil the same whom formerly he had made heavy and in whom now he rejoyced cap. 7. v. 8. to the end He that can now cast such a mist as shall darken so faire and cleare a context and make us meet with the officers only in all this missing the People I shall allow him this testimony he hath profited very well in the school of darknesse Some footstep of the Peoples power here we had in the ruines of discipline by the Prelates in that the absolved Party was wont to aske the Congregation forgivenesse 3. Every brother hath a power and his duty it is to admonish first singly then jointly before a witnesse or two the case so requiring and there is waight in that admonition for gaining a brother Mat. 18.15 16. how comes it to passe that after the offence is brought to the officers there is no waight in the publick admonition and consequently censure of the whole brotherhood The end of the Censure is to shame and humble the sinner and is there no waight in the solemne judgement of any nor all the brotherhood but only of the officers for this end 4. If this judgement belong only to the officers then Christ hath so instituted this Ordinance as many times it cannot obtaine its end without the sin of the Church this is cleare thus in case the Church or brotherhood apprehend the sentence unrighteous they cannot without sin withdraw from him the Party sentenced suppose by officers proceeding as wickedly as sometimes our Prelates and their creatures were wont to do passing sentence of excommunication for refusing impious Ceremonies or the like if they shal not withdraw the end is not obtained the sentence not obeyed but to say that Christ hath so instituted this or any other Ordinance is to taxe his wisedome and holinesse Quest Suppose some few apprehend the sentence unrighteous what shall they do Answ Modestly declare their dissent and for their parts forbeare to act it 5. That the Church or brotherhood hath some share in the power of the keyes appears by her honourable relation to Christ the Elders are stewards but the Church is his wife Object That is the universall Church Ans Every particular Church or company of combined Saints hath the whole nature of the universall Church and the same relation to Christ that all the Saints together have 1 Cor. 12.27 Object Then women and children should share in the power of the keyes for they are of the Church of beleevers Answ This is a most trifling objection 1. It is granted by many who make this Objection that the brethren have right to chuse their officers who yet deny women and children any share therein 2 A power may belong to such an Order yet not to all in that Order the Lords Supper belongs to the Order of beleevers not to officers only the children of beleevers are in Church-account beleevers yet the supper belongs not to them I will adde that honour which belongs to such an Order reflects upon them in that order who are yet debarred Personal application the honour of circumcision sealing up the Jews into Gods family had reflection upon their women they were of the circumcision in opposition to the Gentiles who were the uncircumcision though they could not be circumcised it is a priviledge and honour of our Nobility in England that they make one House of Parliament and who can deny that the wives and children of Nobles are concerned in this Honour though it belongs not to them to sit in the House Let us now adde the testimonies first of the primitive and then of the reformed Churches in some of their choicest Divines 1. For the primitive times Cyprian To the Presbyters and Deacons As for that which my fellow Presbyters Donatus and Fortunatus Novatus and Gordius wrote about I could write nothing in answer forasmuch as I have determined from the beginning of my Episcopacy to do nothing of mine owne mind or by mine own sentence without your counsell and the consent of my people But when I shall come to you he was now in exile by the grace of God we will then deale about those things in common which either are done or are to be done as mutuall honour requires Epist 6. at the end The like to this in the 18. Epistle about the demand of some of the lapsed that is those who had fallen in time of Persecution desiring to be restored having for that end obtained the Confessors letters the Confessors were such as were imprisoned for the truth This thing saith he since it belongs to the counsell and sentence of us all I would not judge it beforehand neither dare I challenge to my selfe alone a common businesse When some Presbyters had over-hastily received some of the lapsed to the Lords Supper He tels them they must make account to plead their cause before himselfe the rest of the Ministers the Confessors and the whole People Epist 10. When he yet in exile was consulted with by letters by his Presbyters about certaine who had fallen and were now returned desirous to be received againe of the Church he answers I cannot be judge alone in this case many of the ministers are absent and this case requires exact handling not only with my fellow ministers but with the whole People for the thing is to be weighed with well-poised moderation and so to be sentenced as may for after times settle an example about the ministers of the Church Epist 28. The ministery of Rome to Cyprian there being at this time no Bishop at Rome In this great businesse it seemed good to us which thou also hast formerly handled that the Peace of the Church be upheld furthermore so conference of counsels being had with the Bishops Presbyters Deacons Confessors and in like manner with the standing People to handle the cause of the lapsed Epist 31. Cyprian to the People concerning Felicissimus and the five Presbyters of his faction By the Providence of God they undergo the punishment they have deserved that not being cast out by us they should cast