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A89814 Proh tempora! Proh Mores! or an unfained caveat to all true Protestants, not in any case to touch any of these three serpents; viz. Mr Erbery's Babe of glory. The mad-mans plea, and Mr. Christopher Feakes exhortations. Whose language is infectious, and whose stings are mortiferous, therefore of all Gods people to be shunned, as those which intend nothing more then Christian persecution. Written by J.N. a mechanick.; Proh tempora! Proh mores!. J. N. 1654 (1654) Wing N23; Thomason E727_11; ESTC R206819 8,436 8

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called Baby-Baptism routed let any one judge of the rout being not half so big as that rout which the Miller of Bynley made amongst some of their fellow creatures when he found them Denudated laving and defiling his christalline torrent with an unheard of custom and let me tell you this does add to your Religion more contempt because that although you have gotten head amongst us in England and a meeting place allowed you to exercise your selves in yet you are not herewith content but do devise to through down al Religion save that which bears your mark in the front of it and to bring all Learning in subjection to your proud and scoffing Wills chiefly inveighing against the Blackcoats in my weak opinion a vesture more beseeming the Leaders of people then a cloak trimmed with Gold Buttons but I do with confidence aver that although these people have as much power and prevalency in England as Arrius had in the East you will fall with the self same descent as your predecessors have done before you and if you do intend seeing you cannot dissolve the ordinances which we must retaine I will onely write this sentence concerning this matter for your own proper admonition that except you do devise some safer and more facetious stratagem in that external ordinance of wading then was used to an old Marron in Warwick shire some yeers since as I suppose not unknow to prophet Erbery being to the utter loss of that daily use that before she had with her limbs the waters so benumbing her I say if this be not altered you will have but few Disciples and did I grant to you that our manner of Baptisme was onely an Ordinance instituted by men believing with the Apostle that neither circumsion nor uncircumcision avail any thing except a new creature I conceive you ought to submit to it for conscience sake Now for singing of Psalms I mean that which Mr. Feake derides I am confident that for all their scoffes as when I have come to Christ Church onely in contempt of the Ordinance I have beheld a great part of the people to sit with their hats on in a deriding posture This it seems is one of Mr. Christopher Feake's Exhortations and indeed is it not a comly one when I compare it with that of the Apostle 2 Cor. 8.24 Paul was of that heavenly condiscending temper that if by eating meat his brother was offended he would never eat meat more And does Mr. Feake think that this hat-waring and laughing at our howling as they call it doth not offend us that sing Let them look to it for the words are plain Yea in so doing sin against Christ But 2. Mr. Feake doth exhort them and stir them up to sing that new song of the Lambe they now being upon mount Zion and to that intent the Spirit of God having taught it him he song it together with the Congregation but such was his Semi-Reformation or deformation that when he had compiled his Hymne of praise He was fain to make use of one of our Prelatical Tunes as they call them a thing that as I thought did much derogate from that spirit which was present with him at the peaning of them You say old things and reliques are past and out of date and you will make all things new if you can you will reform and you will not you cannot tell what you would have your selves onely Mahomet-like who though he hate Judaisme yet commands that all Musselmen be circumcised being no other then a crafty wile that the devil did infuse into the mind of Sergius that wicked Alcoran-founder knowing that it would make their Faith and their Religion more accepted amongst men So though our leaders make new songs they either will not or cannot make new tunes but will have our Quiresters tune though they say it doth rellish of the beast being onely for this cause that the people may relish their novelties with the greater affectation Augustine sayes Quomodò debitè potest Deo psallere qui ignarat quid psallat So how can we praise God as we ought to do when we cannot understand your strange notions but our old w●y of singing the Psalmes of David are not strange nor irksome to us and therefore we are able to bless and praise God and that knowingly and sencibly of his great mercies toward us but if I remember my own former reproof to you it may be a matter of offence in the eyes of Mr. Feake who accounts of the Fathers and their knowledge as to base and sordid an element for to be the subject of his Metaphysical and most capacious fancy He saith indeed when he was a child he minded such childish things as the perusing of Antiquaries but now he saith Ego non sum ege or else he is transplanted sure into another Region he saith nought save the Bible I fear he did forget the Kentish Prophets book of Navigation which the laid Prophet affirmeth will be of like duration But indeed if Mr. Feake do remember that when he went to School they had an expression which remaines firme and inviolable even to this day amongst those that he calls Sir Jehus and that is this Satis est quod suffocat and truely I do believe that in that eternal and divine Scripture He with the rest of his followers which are so resolutely bent to trample down humane Learning may meet with matter enough not onely to satisfie and silence all such curious novations as those which cast a scandal upon all such Ministers as will prefer Learning before unstable Doctrines but also to choak and mortifie all confident and overwise turn-coats Such is the stupidity of this deplorable age that if people were not blind they might see Antichrist in colours even in our own country for do not we see these men that do pretend great and supernatural gifts to preach nothing more then that which may set us all together by the ears is any thing more rife in their expressions then the convenience of our dissentions and upon this account they do much wrong that Scripture where it is said That offences shall come Is not their vain glory seen in this which they onely adhibite to themselves as a token of their specialty and singularity from the mixt multitude in their private conventicles Is not the major part of Mr. Feakes praying and preaching taken up in the encouragement of the hearers to go first to the skirts and borders of Italy which they say are the friends of the great whore so that there may be none left to way-lay or like the Banditi to resist Mr. Feake in his way to Rome and above all this is not this admirable and terrifying their Job-like patience that men do not Apostles-like leave all and do what they bid them do But shall I tell my brethren according to the flesh that as our proverbe is Rome was not built in one day so to this day amongst those forlorn Greeks that yet remaine they have a Proverb that Greece lost but one eye in one day fair and softly is the wisemans steps For my part let these men be so quick as they will or can I do seriously believe that this present Pope Innocent the tenth being a man of very old age will be gathered to his Fathers before Mr. Feake or any of his stout intenders shall arive at the sweet river Po and therefore I do conceive that his rigid expressions are nothing except unsound resolutions without Christian deliberation Saint Paul sayes Covet to prophesie but forbid not to speak with tongues it is thus in the Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and this hold forth by it conjunction copulative that the tongues are a great help unto prophesie much less a disgrace as they say and do most commonly accompany each other then the word Forbid I finde to signifie not to impede nor to cast durt in the faces of a Minister because he is a good Scholar so that he which is past or above our ancient writers I fear he is past grace I may truly think this for when I see men strive to rent us in pieces by upbraiding our teachers and casting vile aspersions upon them it is an ill signe of true brethren else why can they not like the Apostles become all unto all men that they might gaine the more it makes me to cry with the Father of an accursed toleration but I hope that God will shew these men their folly and what heavy judgements this their separation may produce Oh when shall we be one sheepfold under that onely great Shepherd Jesus Christ even before the Lords bow is bent against us and in my weak judgement I do rather fear the Atheism of the heathens then the Papism of Rome to overwhelm us least God remove our Candlestick because of our ingratitude that although we possess the great means of salvation yet we are murmurers deceivers yet being deceived And I will say thus much to those that are zealous in a good cause and in a sound Religion I say let this keep up your spirits and make you stick close unto the publike Ordinances Because first This is no new thing to meet with false brethren And secondly because it is but for a moment that your tryal shall last now although the primitive Christians endured above ten yeers persecution under the Emperors yet it was but a little while in their esteem which made the Father to cry out Isthoc nobile vincendi genus patientia est it must be with much patience that you shall possess your souls and therefore have a care to your steps alwayes bearing in your minds this remembrance of Asias former glory and her present doleful estate wherein she now remaines as also what dreadful wars and famine were effected in the Low-countrys only by the sedition of such like men as now rail against all Religion save thein own which I am sure is much defiled FINIS