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A16955 An apologie in briefe assertions defending that our Lord died in the time properly foretold to Daniel For satisfaction of some students in both vniuersities. H. Broughton. Broughton, Hugh, 1549-1612. 1592 (1592) STC 3845; ESTC S106725 50,096 86

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Xerxes euen by heathen 30. was the most that likelihood would grant that from Xerxes warre to Alexanders of the supposed 140. by Grekes of that Age in sure and plaine reasons 40. full clearly might to the satisfaction of any heathen bee quite cut off 5 Touching heathen disturbances I turne them to serue the Church in Olympiades about Rome and such Phlegon fighteth for vs whose whole fragment because few had it I caused to be printed for Scholers vse 6 Pausanias likewise against himselfe exactly for my summe and the Greke Diuines I brought against theyr cited Olympiades yea Iulian and Lucian are brought to serue Daniel 7 The table of Archontes the malice of Philosophers the vanitie of the Chaldeans haue been detected 8 These points hee that holdeth not profitable for helping to ioyne Moses Daniel Matthew Paul and all together and specially the Iubilees beginning from the partition of the Land by Iesus vpon driuing out the heathen ending at the entring for vs into heauen by our Lord and Sauiour Iesus by texts cleare and plaine hee that would despise this hath courage not following but running afore learning and I thinke with none well aduised can finde commendation Obiection But this should not be put in print to the disgrace of a learned man priuate conference should rather end the matter Answere This Obiection may be cast off for manie causes 1 Mine aduersarie conferred priuately with me before I wrote of the Scripture concent and vpon occasion of some strange points in his Author whereby his accompt made yeres three-score for bare three he told me that he had not studied these points and requested me to write of them 2 Presently vpon the comming forth of my Booke he falleth a confuting it in open lectures amongst yong students vnable to iudge who as Nero sang the destruction of Troy when he set his own Citie on fire so those yong students triumphed when Daniel and Gabriel were in confuting If this partiality be tolerable in him to speak to yong men not to print that all may iudge they wil grant me good leaue to defend that truth in print which the Aduersarie did request me for to print at the first 3 My learned frend told his Auditorie that hee was bound to honor the truth more than our frendship and therefore would not spare euen a follower of a vniuersall opinion He that will not thinke the same as lawfull for me will seeme blinded with finister partialitie 4 Vpon a short Epistle to one A. T. prouing Mardochai captiued whose life would discusse our controuersie mine aduersarie promised to take the blame on him rather than I should print more yet soone after falleth on confuting it with some dealings that none indifferent would like off his admirers being called to their owne iudgement vpon Ester saw that they were deceaued and said that the fame of the learned man carried them to conclude as he wold Now all such as condemn all Ebrewes Grekes English and their owne hart must bee warned to deale better and other warning would they take none till I came to this manie did I send them 5 Another D. of Diuinitie who abridged Codoman flowing with errours yet condemning mine Aduersarie in all our chiefe differences granting me full manie points wherby mine Aduersarie would tell him that he ouerthrew himselfe vpon certain demands dashing all his paines tooke a right course he confessed that he had no skill in these matters and would yeeld vnto him whom he prouoked One Master Jackson a merchant can testifie that to him it was spoken and the Gentlemen of Grayes-Inne know reason why that was his best way And this mention would I haue spared but that one D. Ch. would haue him answered as though he had wonne the spurres the man himselfe tooke the best way I dare assure mine Aduersarie that he ought to haue done so if euer by resistance he make his cause good let the Reader thinke me of small iudgement 6 So many are infected with error vpon his Lectures to hold the Scripture vncertaine that not onely Printing must correct them but also he must be moued to acknowledge his ouersight 7 It is great pitie that one so well deseruing of the Church should be suffred by vnreasonable reuerence to build vp Jericho wheras in frendship iust reproofe bears great sway which must be giuen grauely and taken patiently 8 We tooke Vmperes the Archbishop of Canterburie and the Bishop of London By their arbitrement hee doth know or some may that neither hee nor anie will soon foile any ioynt of that Scripture Concent but for going about will take foyles manie When after their censures yong men shall sing as at Neroes flames what man of courage with learning would abide it He that wrote of Scripture Concent to her Maiestie vnles for ioining Ebrew and Greke studies he knew himself commonly holden inferior to none he might be blamed of imprudencie with taking away the first letter of Rhetorique that which Tully said Demosthenes could hardly pronounce for the boldnes of his enterprise taken before BB and DD. as a Doctor of Cambridge answered for him vpon commending the weight of the matter when one demanded why then the BB. or the DD. meddeled not with it He that in so weightie a cause would suffer rumors to quel the truth and yeeld to men not acquainted with his studies should not be thought of iudgment or loue of the truth Thus I trust the godly wilbe satisfied the fame or infamie from the bad should moue none of iudgement FINIS The amending of faults escaped THe number of sheetes are not duely marked by the letters by reason that a fragment of Phlegon printed in Greeke was the worke of a Printer dwelling farre off and of another then the other and latelyer printed then the sheet of the Chaldeans which by the vnheedines of the Printers both haue their reckoning amisle the one A. the other I. But for amending faults they may be noted thus Phleg. and Chald. the other leaues be in order Through all thus amend faults D. page 6. line 12. and 13. twenty three yeares while Iosue was vnder Persia In Phlegon line 25. reade end cure of the plague In the next page in the margent reade Homer Iliad 2. 595. for Odiss 2. F. 1. the second page in the margent rede Homer Iliad 3. for lib. 3. In G. 2. line 1. reade sunne of iustice for sonne on the next page line 13. reade sunne for sonne In H. 3. page 2. line 16. reade the mede Datis for Mardo●●●s In the next page in the marget rede Demetrius Phalereus In I in the margent rede 4. y. that is yeares for 4. 7. In Cald. line 7. reade places 30. for 32. and line 20. reade either knowen for knowen either And line 21. reade or thought vpon to the for or to the and in the margent wittingly for willingly And page 7. line 29. open for vpon In L. line
good to warne them and wish them due care oftime place and person in all narrations least they soone pull downe all theyr owne buylding But now let vs returne to our care ouer Rome that it worke no harme in this behalfe to the Gospel Causes why Romane testimonies shoulde be rather loathed then honoured to controll all antiquitie for holy prophetes Speciall causes shoulde moue to refuse Romane late wryters in this case 1 They being neare our Lordes dayes in the fleshe when Iewes noysed ouer al the worlde their expectation of the heauenly Monarch they were to be geuen vp vnto further errour that would not loue the light kindled and enquire as touching that king of glory 2 When Tully proflac prouin cons mentionyng Ierusalem calleth the Iewes religion a barbarous superstitiō and them a nation borne to bondage he can not deny but he had herd of their religion of their long bondage And he myght haue founde his paradoxe true that the wyse man euen in tormentes is happy yf he would haue read the 70. and Esay 53. as he did Demosthenes His tongue was worthy to be prickt with needles that so dispitefully would speake of the nation of our Lorde who gaue him all his eloquence and worthily suffered he all that punyshment which in Plutarch befel him 3 Vergil the Poet that heard of a chylde commyng from heauen to bring a golden worlde sinned against his conscience in drawyng that to Rome which all rumors drew to Ierusalem 4 Augustus iesting that Herodes hog was happier then his son knowing Herodes murthering which was to preuent the king looked for of the Iewes coulde hardly be gyltles And Carneades might haue taught him yf not the Magi to haue left the Iewes a King of their owne nation and right family 5 After open mention to Tiberius of our Lord his resurrection a plaine prophecy by which al the east at that time looked for a king and after of the name of Christe kilde vnder Pontius Pilate all dealinges of Romane writers were much to be suspected either as more forlorn of God to crosse vnawares that prophecy famous euery where or of malice fortifiying with a conspiring rancor such Grekes as might wholly disturbe y t prophecy of the time of the general monarch 6 Yf they dealt not maliciously how could they being late men agree in the same syllables for the times betwixt Xerxes and Alexander precisely though Isocrates Lycurgus men of that age differ 25. yeeres where they make the whole but 48. and others after the Peloponnesian wars differ about halfe in halfe How the common table of Archontes though forged yet was exquisitely honored of the Antichristian Philosophers not without suspition of malice The late Greekes vnder the Romane Emperours Pausanias Plutarch Phlegon Laertius for the yeerely Archontes or Maiors of Athens and vnder which of them famous men were borne or dyed do so agree as though they had lyued in their olde tymes and had ben recorders of purpose yet olde writers haue as I thinke not twenty of those 140. Archontes but full many others in theyr roomes as Demosthenes in one oration hath 8. Maiores of his owne towne whereof the table which the Emperours scholers would fortify hath not one Lysias hath some of his tyme likewyse there not found And Grekes Christians as Suidas and other commenters vtterly disgrace them I finde in Thucidides two Pythodorus beginnyng the warres and Alcaeus Xenophon hath a Pythodorus ending it and Lysias the same Also Euctemon is in Xenophon Euclides in Lysias in Demosthenes about 9. two I finde in Aeschines other may haue some or they some more Therefore in late men this agreement can hardly be voyde of suspicion of malice 1 Those open enimies are more openly gylty in admitting thinges by them selues vnpossible For Plutarch casting Lysias borne vnder Philocles and to lyue 72. yeeres and admittyng his oration for Iphicrates when Elpinicus was Maior 103. off that shal deserue true credite when 72. can be 103. This might then tell that about 30. Maiors and yeeres are forged and malice not dulnes hath authorised these recordes 2 VVhen Ptolomy mentioneth Eclipses vnder Phanostratus the next yere vnder Euander here their conspiracy fayleth For in Diodorus Menāder is not Euander at all Euander is a Maior in Demosthenes but as neare the time of Timocrates affayres a late Maior Besides al Greekes know that Euander and Menander be too far off in force to take the one for the other 3 Touching Apseudes in Ptolemyes Eclipses I trow sauing from Diodorus table neuer no man was so called As neuer no Englysh man was called Vn-lying and the name myght tell that the autour iested 4 VVho woulde not suspect forgery seeing those three Maiors together Lysi-stratus Lys-anias Lysi-theus and nere Lysi-crates Lysimachides and Lys-anias againe Or these vpō A halfe a dosen together Amynias Alc●us Ariston Aristophylus Archias Antipho and next saue one Aristomnestus Any may thinke that an open forger turning to some Alphabete table bred these 5 Like are these in the termination rare in ides Theagenides Archidemides Phasiclides Timarchides Lysimachides Myrichides Glaucides and all these neare togeather Where both Isocrates Lycurgus differ so much and I shew the time shorter by the one halfe or there about then the forged tables accompt VVherefore Gellius Plutarch and such who by Gods curse cannot speake the trueth as Aeschines taunteth Demosthenes no not vnwilling that is vnwitting or do of malice represse it let them packe But their malicious forgery wyll most notably appeare for kinges which are feigned to lyue with the kinges of Iudah from autours neuer heard of tyll the Romane Emperours kilde the holy Martyrs They are the thirde thred I wyll put the simple reader in minde agaynst them what holy prophecy is wounded for them Of the Chaldeans CFrtayne reportes of supposed Chaldeans in our age first haue been of estimation to teach men how to expounde Daniel touching that text wherevpon we are tearmed Christians For in Daniel first and onely of the olde Testament the tearme Christ is meere proper in other places 32. the skilfull in Adams tongue know the tearme to be appellatiue For to vnderstande Daniel the better some late woulde seeke helpe from men whom they thinke to be Chaldeans And by an accompt from them my aduersary woulde make me beleeue that Gabriel appoynting 70. seuens of yeres for al the world to loke for Christ his death meant not 70. but 80. seuens His dealyng is strange strangenesse yet herein made some men boysterous But the aged and learned knew before how in the ende the matter would fall out In London Prentises maruel at Vniuersitie Scholers for thinking that Chaldeans might force them to an other meaning of bibles sold in Paules then euer was knowen eyther to Iewes who wrote the Prophetes or to the Queene of Englande and Burgesles