go_v forth_o into_o the_o word_n without_o hurt_n or_o prejudice_n and_o at_o other_o time_n although_o it_o be_v able_a and_o strong_a yet_o it_o will_v not_o answer_v the_o motion_n of_o man_n will_n so_o as_o to_o be_v draw_v forth_o thereby_o but_o it_o only_o abide_v or_o go_v forth_o into_o the_o vocal_a prayer_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n as_o he_o please_v to_o move_v it_o therefore_o the_o free_a motion_n of_o the_o life_n itself_o as_o it_o please_v god_n to_o bring_v it_o forth_o be_v to_o be_v attend_v in_o all_o outward_a spiritual_a performance_n but_o here_o let_v the_o reader_n note_n that_o we_o have_v say_v uocall_a prayer_n require_v more_o life_n than_o some_o mental_a prayer_n we_o do_v not_o say_v then_o all_o for_o some_o mental_a prayer_n may_v be_v strong_a than_o that_o which_o be_v a_o complex_fw-la of_o mental_a and_o vocal_a as_o gather_v the_o whole_a strength_n of_o the_o complex_fw-la into_o that_o which_o be_v sole_o and_o entire_o mental_a according_a unto_o that_o common_a say_n abundant_o confirm_v by_o experience_n vis_fw-la unita_fw-la fortior_fw-la unite_v strength_n be_v the_o strong_a as_o when_o the_o beam_n of_o the_o sun_n be_v unite_v into_o a_o small_a point_n they_o have_v more_o force_n then_o when_o they_o be_v diffuse_v and_o for_o this_o cause_n it_o be_v that_o we_o be_v so_o much_o for_o mental_a prayer_n as_o know_v the_o great_a good_a of_o it_o in_o our_o experience_n and_o from_o what_o be_v above_o say_v it_o be_v clear_a that_o we_o need_v another_o influence_n wherewith_o to_o pray_v vocal_o then_o to_o eat_v plough_n walk_v &c._n &c._n because_o these_o natural_a action_n may_v be_v do_v sufficienty_n in_o a_o spiritual_a manner_n by_o the_o help_n of_o that_o general_a influence_n which_o do_v always_o attend_v good_a man_n to_o fear_v and_o love_n god_n for_o the_o principle_n of_o divine_a life_n which_o be_v the_o live_n and_o powerful_a word_n of_o god_n in_o man_n heart_n be_v never_o idle_a but_o be_v always_o operative_a and_o at_o work_n especial_o more_o abundant_o in_o they_o who_o join_v with_o it_o be_v as_o a_o most_o rich_a and_o live_a spring_n that_o be_v continual_o flow_v and_o send_v forth_o its_o stream_n according_a to_o joh._n 4_o 14._o but_o to_o pray_v vocal_o require_v a_o influence_n of_o life_n to_o flow_v forth_o into_o the_o word_n that_o it_o may_v in_o a_o live_n and_o powerful_a way_n reach_v the_o hearer_n but_o that_o plow_a eat_a walk_a etc._n etc._n need_v no_o such_o emanate_a influence_n be_v certain_a and_o will_v be_v acknowledge_v by_o our_o adversary_n but_o perhaps_o also_o they_o will_v deny_v that_o any_o life_n or_o virtue_n do_v flow_v forth_o into_o mental_a pray_v and_o preach_v even_o when_o these_o duty_n be_v acceptable_o perform_v but_o this_o be_v contrary_a both_o to_o the_o certain_a experience_n of_o many_o thousand_o and_o also_o to_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n in_o many_o place_n i._o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o experience_n of_o many_o thousand_o who_o can_v declare_v whereof_o we_o be_v some_o that_o the_o declaration_n testimony_n and_o word_n of_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n in_o preach_v and_o pray_v have_v a_o real_a life_n and_o live_a virtue_n in_o they_o whereby_o their_o soul_n be_v exceed_o refresh_v quicken_v and_o strengthen_v which_o life_n and_o live_a virtue_n be_v a_o thing_n as_o distinct_a from_o the_o bare_a outward_a word_n which_o the_o natural_a ear_n can_v hear_v as_o wine_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o vessel_n that_o carry_v it_o therefore_o if_o another_o man_n that_o have_v not_o this_o spiritual_a ability_n shall_v pronounce_v the_o same_o word_n they_o have_v not_o any_o life_n or_o virtue_n at_o all_o and_o that_o god_n have_v give_v this_o spiritual_a discern_v to_o many_o before_o the_o people_n call_v q._n be_v raise_v up_o be_v manifest_a from_o divers_a in_o our_o own_o nation_n who_o care_v not_o to_o hear_v man_n who_o can_v speak_v never_o so_o good_a word_n if_o they_o want_v life_n and_o in_o that_o day_n they_o can_v and_o do_v distinguish_v betwixt_o dead_a and_o live_a preacher_n as_o also_o betwixt_o a_o live_a testimony_n and_o preach_v and_o a_o dry_a discourse_n see_v for_o this_o the_o book_n call_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o this_o be_v the_o express_a testimony_n of_o that_o philosopher_n who_o be_v convert_v by_o the_o mean_n of_o a_o few_o word_n speak_v by_o a_o certain_a old_a man_n who_o be_v a_o christian_a at_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a out_o of_o the_o mouth_n that_o old_a man_n say_v he_o there_o go_v forth_o a_o virtue_n which_o i_o can_v not_o resist_v these_o be_v his_o very_a word_n as_o lucas_n osiander_n relat_n they_o in_o his_o epitome_n of_o the_o church_n history_n cent._n 4._o lin_v 2._o cap._n 5._o ii_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n in_o many_o place_n the_o mouth_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v a_o well_o of_o life_n prov._n 10_o 11._o this_o must_v be_v understand_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o influence_n of_o life_n that_o come_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n as_o water_n do_v out_o of_o a_o well_o and_o not_o bare_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o good_a word_n which_o a_o wicked_a man_n may_v speak_v according_a to_o this_o christ_n say_v to_o his_o disciple_n the_o word_n that_o i_o speak_v unto_o you_o be_v spirit_n and_o life_n and_o as_o it_o be_v then_o so_o it_o be_v now_o for_o at_o this_o day_n he_o speak_v in_o his_o servant_n and_o will_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o it_o be_v he_o only_o who_o have_v the_o word_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o he_o speak_v in_o his_o servant_n and_o as_o in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o flesh_n he_o be_v say_v to_o speak_v with_o authority_n or_o power_n and_o not_o as_o the_o scribe_n and_o the_o people_n wonder_v at_o the_o gracious_a word_n which_o proceed_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n all_o which_o import_n a_o live_a influence_n and_o virtue_n in_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o the_o word_n of_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n have_v not_o so_o it_o be_v at_o this_o day_n for_o christ_n do_v as_o real_o speak_v by_o his_o spirit_n in_o his_o servant_n as_o he_o do_v in_o his_o body_n of_o flesh_n so_o that_o paul_n say_v he_o speak_v in_o he_o and_o therefore_o his_o preach_n be_v in_o demonstrtion_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o power_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n true_a preacher_n and_o prophet_n be_v call_v good_a tree_n of_o which_o man_n gather_v good_a fruit_n whereas_o bad_a man_n or_o evil_a tree_n have_v no_o good_a fruit_n although_o they_o have_v the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n word_n also_o they_o be_v compare_v to_o wit_n the_o false_a prophet_n to_o cloud_n without_o rain_n and_o well_n without_o water_n although_o they_o have_v good_a word_n yet_o they_o have_v no_o rain_n nor_o water_n their_o whole_a ministry_n be_v dry_a and_o empty_a of_o life_n and_o virtue_n but_o the_o true_a prophet_n ministry_n be_v as_o a_o shower_n of_o rain_n deut._n 32_o 2._o and_o sometime_o it_o be_v compare_v unto_o fire_n as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o psalm_n he_o make_v his_o angel_n or_o messenger_n spirit_n and_o his_o minister_n a_o flamme_n of_o fire_n and_o fire_n be_v say_v to_o go_v out_o of_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o two_o witness_n also_o the_o influence_n of_o life_n that_o go_v forth_o through_o the_o true_a prophet_n in_o their_o ministry_n be_v compare_v to_o golden_a oil_n &_o the_o man_n be_v compare_v unto_o golden_a pipe_n zech._n 4_o 12._o and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n peter_n exhort_v the_o minister_n in_o his_o day_n to_o minister_v of_o the_o ability_n which_o god_n give_v as_o good_a steward_n of_o the_o manifold_a grace_n of_o god_n so_o they_o minister_v not_o only_a word_n but_o grace_n many_o other_o testimony_n may_v be_v cite_v to_o prove_v this_o truth_n another_o instance_n bring_v by_o the_o student_n be_v that_o a_o haeretick_n forbear_v prayer_n a_o year_n or_o two_o or_o his_o whole_a life_n time_n may_v justify_v himself_o by_o this_o doctrine_n to_o this_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o though_o he_o may_v pretend_v yet_o he_o have_v no_o just_a ground_n from_o our_o principle_n for_o we_o believe_v that_o all_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o pray_v often_o unto_o god_n yea_o daily_a and_o that_o god_n do_v inward_o call_v and_o move_v all_o man_n often_o unto_o prayer_n during_o the_o day_n of_o their_o visitation_n and_o when_o that_o be_v expire_v or_o when_o at_o any_o other_o time_n they_o want_v that_o inward_a call_n or_o influence_n through_o unfaithfulnesse_n they_o be_v still_o bind_v and_o if_o they_o pray_v not_o they_o sin_n because_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o influence_n but_o that_o our_o account_n say_v
that_o do_v not_o see_v that_o they_o be_v entangle_v in_o the_o same_o difficulty_n they_o will_v urge_v upon_o we_o yea_o into_o a_o far_o great_a for_o they_o can_v not_o so_o much_o as_o pretend_v to_o any_o objective_a evidence_n whereby_o to_o convince_v we_o that_o they_o be_v well_o dispose_v see_v they_o altogether_o deny_v such_o a_o thing_n if_o they_o answer_v that_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o say_v either_o the_o affirmative_a or_o negative_a but_o require_v of_o we_o to_o prove_v the_o negative_a who_o see_v not_o that_o we_o have_v the_o same_o to_o reply_v unto_o they_o when_o they_o urge_v we_o either_o the_o q._n have_v the_o spirit_n or_o they_o have_v not_o that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o say_v either_o the_o affirmative_a or_o negative_a for_o although_o to_o have_v and_o not_o to_o have_v be_v contradictory_n yet_o to_o say_v that_o we_o have_v the_o spirit_n and_o that_o we_o have_v not_o the_o spirit_n be_v not_o contradictory_n be_v both_o affirmative_a and_o indeed_o when_o we_o assert_v thing_n only_o in_o thesi_fw-la we_o do_v not_o say_v either_o that_o we_o have_v or_o have_v not_o the_o spirit_n but_o this_o we_o say_v and_o we_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v from_o scripture_n that_o all_o good_a christian_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n immediate_o to_o teach_v and_o guide_v they_o into_o all_o truth_n and_o all_o man_n have_v it_o so_o far_o as_o either_o to_o justify_v or_o condemn_v they_o by_o this_o we_o stand_v and_o be_v able_a to_o defend_v it_o through_o the_o help_n of_o god_n as_o consist_v both_o with_o scripture_n and_o sound_a reason_n and_o testimony_n of_o ancient_n but_o if_o they_o think_v with_o their_o little_a craft_n to_o bring_v we_o down_o from_o the_o thesis_n to_o the_o hypothesis_n they_o must_v know_v the_o same_o will_v bring_v they_o down_o to_o it_o also_o for_o see_v it_o be_v a_o truth_n acknowledge_v both_o by_o they_o and_o we_o that_o all_o true_a christian_n and_o child_n of_o god_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n work_v in_o they_o at_o lest_o as_o a_o efficient_a cause_n from_o this_o we_o urge_v they_o thus_o either_o they_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n work_v in_o they_o as_o a_o efficient_a cause_n or_o they_o have_v not_o if_o they_o say_v they_o have_v not_o they_o confess_v they_o be_v not_o true_a christian_n or_o child_n of_o god_n which_o we_o suppose_v they_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o say_v if_o they_o say_v they_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n as_o a_o efficient_a cause_n of_o faith_n work_v in_o they_o and_o subjective_o enlighten_v they_o let_v they_o prove_v it_o or_o give_v we_o a_o evidence_n of_o it_o who_o do_v not_o see_v that_o poor_a man_n they_o be_v take_v in_o their_o own_o snare_n we_o know_v all_o rational_a and_o sober_a man_n will_v acknowledge_v that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o receive_v their_o affirmation_n without_o proof_n more_o than_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o receive_v we_o nor_o indeed_o so_o much_o we_o be_v as_o the_o case_n stand_v but_o defendant_n as_o touch_v their_o answer_n to_o r._n b._n his_o retortion_n about_o a_o evidence_n 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v examine_v in_o the_o next_o section_n in_o pag._n 60._o they_o tell_v that_o we_o assign_v they_o at_o last_o some_o shadow_n of_o evidence_n namely_o first_o our_o own_o declaration_n 2._o the_o scripture_n 3._o the_o immediate_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n but_o that_o these_o be_v not_o shadow_n will_v appear_v to_o the_o judicious_a and_o well_o dispose_v if_o they_o consider_v these_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o by_o our_o declaration_n we_o mean_v not_o a_o bare_a verbal_a declaration_n have_v no_o virtue_n or_o manifestation_n of_o life_n in_o it_o for_o we_o confess_v such_o may_v be_v as_o good_a a_o ground_n for_o a_o heretic_n in_o way_n of_o evidence_n but_o by_o our_o declaration_n we_o mean_v such_o a_o declaration_n as_o do_v real_o proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o we_o and_o be_v therefore_o a_o live_a declaration_n have_v a_o manifestaaion_n of_o life_n in_o it_o and_o with_o it_o and_o which_o be_v not_o only_o in_o word_n of_o life_n or_o live_a word_n utter_v through_o we_o from_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n but_o also_o in_o work_n of_o life_n or_o live_a work_n which_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o say_v christ_n by_o their_o fruit_n shall_v you_o know_v they_o now_o such_o a_o declaration_n can_v no_o heretic_n have_v however_o he_o may_v pretend_v to_o it_o if_o our_o adversary_n say_v that_o we_o only_o pretend_v to_o such_o a_o thing_n we_o answer_v they_o with_o their_o own_o rule_n affirmanti_fw-la incumbit_fw-la probatio_fw-la i_o e._n the_o affirmer_n ought_v to_o prove_v let_v they_o prove_v we_o only_o to_o be_v pretender_n which_o yet_o they_o have_v not_o do_v nor_o can_v do_v and_o indeed_o such_o a_o declaration_n from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o the_o apostle_n as_o when_o john_n say_v we_o be_v of_o god_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o evidence_n that_o no_o heretic_n can_v just_o pretend_v to_o 2._o it_o be_v a_o most_o unjust_a and_o unreasonable_a thing_n to_o require_v of_o we_o any_o other_o evidence_n of_o our_o have_v the_o spirit_n then_o that_o which_o every_o true_a christian_a may_v and_o aught_o to_o give_v see_v we_o pretend_v to_o no_o other_o spirit_n but_o that_o which_o every_o true_a christian_a have_v nor_o to_o any_o revelation_n but_o these_o which_o be_v the_o privilege_n of_o all_o true_a christian_n nor_o to_o any_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o conform_v to_o the_o scripture_n of_o truth_n as_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o prove_v and_o as_o g_z k._n have_v already_o show_v in_o his_o book_n immediate_a revelation_n which_o neither_o the_o student_n nor_o their_o master_n have_v give_v we_o any_o refutation_n of_o now_o have_v not_o all_o good_a christian_n these_o three_o evidence_n for_o they_o and_o we_o can_v prove_v by_o the_o help_n of_o the_o lord_n that_o they_o be_v as_o applicable_a to_o we_o as_o to_o any_o upon_o earth_n and_o here_o note_v that_o when_o we_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v the_o best_a outward_a evidence_n that_o can_v be_v give_v we_o mean_v it_o not_o as_o a_o particular_a evidence_n but_o as_o a_o general_a common_a to_o all_o good_a christian_n for_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o scripture_n can_v prove_v that_o any_o particular_a man_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o such_o a_o way_n as_o true_a christian_n have_v it_o but_o it_o prove_v in_o general_a that_o all_o true_a christian_n have_v it_o yea_o and_o all_o man_n to_o convince_v they_o at_o least_o in_o pag._n 61_o 62._o they_o reject_v the_o scripture_n testimony_n as_o a_o evidence_n to_o we_o because_o according_a to_o we_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n have_v no_o evidence_n without_o the_o spirit_n in_o answer_n to_o which_o we_o say_v but_o it_o have_v a_o evidence_n with_o the_o spirit_n his_o inward_a evidence_n go_v along_o with_o it_o which_o inward_a evidence_n we_o say_v do_v go_v along_o with_o it_o sufficient_o to_o convince_v every_o well_o dispose_v intellect_n and_o this_o we_o can_v prove_v from_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n nor_o be_v this_o to_o commit_v a_o unlawful_a circle_n as_o they_o foolish_o allege_v which_o be_v but_o a_o old_a threadbare_a alledgance_n of_o papist_n against_o the_o protestant_n as_o turnbull_n allege_v on_o paraeus_n that_o he_o prove_v the_o spirit_n by_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o spirit_n some_o protestant_n in_o our_o day_n do_v miserable_o seek_v to_o extricat_fw-la themselves_z of_o that_o circle_n that_o they_o know_v the_o spirit_n by_o the_o scripture_n objective_o and_o they_o know_v the_o scripture_n by_o the_o spirit_n effective_o and_o so_o indeed_o they_o get_v free_a of_o the_o circle_n as_o not_o be_v in_o eodem_fw-la genere_fw-la i._n e._n in_o the_o same_o kind_n but_o they_o affirm_v a_o gross_a untruth_n that_o the_o spirit_n influence_n be_v only_o effective_a and_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la subjecti_fw-la whereas_o we_o know_v it_o be_v objective_n and_o can_v prove_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o primitive_a protestant_n see_v g._n k._n his_o book_n of_o immediate_a revelation_n and_o quakerism_n no_o popery_n where_o the_o same_o be_v at_o length_n prove_v but_o we_o have_v a_o most_o clear_a way_n to_o extricat_fw-la ourselves_o of_o that_o circle_n impose_v on_o we_o by_o papist_n and_o these_o student_n to_o wit_n that_o we_o know_v the_o scripture_n testimony_n by_o the_o spirit_n tanquam_fw-la à _fw-la priori_fw-la as_o we_o know_v the_o effect_n by_o the_o cause_n and_o we_o know_v the_o spirit_n testimony_n by_o the_o scripture_n tanquam_fw-la à _fw-la posteriori_fw-la as_o we_o know_v the_o cause_n by_o the_o effect_n and_o so_o both_o be_v objective_n and_o yet_o in_o a_o divers_a
manifest_v itself_o to_o be_v the_o true_a religion_n if_o it_o meet_v with_o a_o well_o dispose_v intellect_n for_o to_o use_v your_o own_o similitude_n a_o honest_a man_n may_v have_v ground_n enough_o to_o show_v a_o distinction_n betwixt_o he_o and_o a_o knave_n albeit_o a_o fool_n can_v discern_v it_o so_o the_o true_a religion_n may_v have_v ground_n enough_o to_o prove_v itself_o true_a which_o the_o false_a religion_n have_v not_o though_o a_o infidel_n or_o heretic_n who_o foolish_a mind_n be_v darken_v rom._n 1._o 21._o can_v take_v it_o up_o that_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o spirit_n can_v be_v assign_v but_o to_o the_o well_o dispose_v understandig_fw-ge this_o they_o call_v a_o pitiful_a subterfuge_n allege_v that_o then_o this_o evidence_n can_v only_o be_v assign_v to_o such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o q._n mind_n but_o not_o to_o other_o and_o that_o any_o heretic_n in_o the_o world_n may_v deny_v evidence_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n now_o let_v the_o judicious_a reader_n determine_v whether_o if_o this_o answer_n be_v a_o pitiful_a subterfuge_n the_o student_n with_o the_o same_o breath_n do_v not_o declare_v their_o master_n to_o the_o jesuit_n to_o be_v the_o same_o and_o when_o they_o write_v next_o let_v they_o show_v the_o difference_n which_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o do_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o retortion_n they_o allege_v pag._n 67._o that_o r._n b._n say_v their_o master_n â—o_z m_o will_v not_o assign_v the_o jesuit_n a_o ground_n to_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o protestant_a religion_n and_o therefore_o say_v they_o r._n bs._n practice_n agree_v exact_o with_o the_o jusuits_n moral_n and_o give_v a_o egregious_a specimen_fw-la of_o his_o jesucticall_a honesty_n which_o make_v we_o suspect_v he_o to_o be_v a_o jesuited_a emissary_n this_o be_v a_o 〈…〉_z disprove_v by_o their_o own_o account_n where_o pag._n 8._o upon_o this_o occsion_n they_o confess_v r._n b._n say_v only_o that_o their_o master_n desire_v the_o jesuit_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o protestant_a religion_n have_v no_o ground_n for_o it_o will_v they_o deny_v this_o let_v they_o read_v the_o very_a first_fw-mi four_o line_n of_o their_o master_n first_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuit_n paper_n pag._n 3._o and_o they_o will_v find_v he_o put_v the_o jesuit_n to_o prove_v his_o minor_a which_o be_v that_o the_o protestant_a religion_n have_v no_o such_o ground_n as_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o i._o m_n assign_v not_o afterward_o a_o ground_n so_o neither_o will_n r._n b._n his_o repeat_v this_o infer_v that_o he_o say_v he_o do_v not_o assign_v such_o a_o ground_n yea_o in_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o pag._n 60._o they_o acknowledge_v he_o tell_v their_o master_n name_v the_o scripture_n as_o a_o ground_n etc._n etc._n so_o it_o be_v manifest_a they_o have_v give_v here_o a_o specimen_fw-la of_o their_o jesuitical_a honesty_n and_o because_o they_o can_v not_o answer_v they_o forge_v lie_n to_o fill_v up_o the_o paper_n and_o thing_n not_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o pag._n 57_o where_o offering_n to_o reply_v to_o this_o retortion_n they_o say_v but_o for_o answer_v it_o be_v well_o know_v r._n b._n be_v bring_v up_o in_o a_o popish_a college_n &_o it_o be_v think_v by_o many_o that_o he_o be_v a_o jesuited_a emissary_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o this_o a_o pungent_a answer_n reader_n r._n b._n be_v educate_v in_o a_o popish_a college_n ergo_fw-la say_v the_o student_n our_o answer_n be_v not_o that_o which_o the_o jesuit_n use_v against_o our_o master_n it_o seem_v the_o student_n be_v offend_v that_o r._n b._n have_v forsake_v popery_n or_o otherwise_o their_o charge_v he_o with_o his_o education_n must_v be_v very_o impertinent_a as_o indeed_o it_o be_v no_o less_o foolish_a then_o if_o we_o shall_v upbraid_v luther_n calvin_n and_o all_o the_o first_o reformer_n as_o papist_n for_o be_v so_o educate_v and_o though_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n their_o folly_n and_o malice_n lead_v they_o into_o this_o impertinency_n yet_o it_o may_v have_v be_v expect_v that_o their_o gratitude_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o edinburgh_n who_o be_v please_v to_o permit_v their_o book_n to_o be_v print_v may_v have_v hinder_v they_o from_o this_o folly_n see_v he_o be_v educate_v in_o the_o same_o popish_a college_n r._n b._n be_v and_o owe_v some_o of_o his_o philosophy_n to_o it_o whereas_o r._n b._n learn_v only_o there_o a_o little_a grammar_n and_o come_v thence_o in_o his_o 15_o year_n but_o the_o bishop_n be_v there_o profess_v popery_n in_o his_o more_o mature_a age_n so_o if_o this_o reflect_v any_o thing_n upon_o r._n b._n it_o will_v much_o more_o against_o the_o bishop_n which_o they_o will_v do_v well_o to_o clear_v and_o be_v sure_a not_o to_o omit_v when_o they_o write_v next_o or_o else_o acknowledge_v their_o impertinency_n herein_o it_o seem_v they_o want_v strength_n of_o reason_n to_o evite_v the_o retortion_n which_o make_v they_o thus_o rove_v offer_v also_o to_o prove_v that_o their_o master_n do_v assign_v a_o ground_n which_o be_v never_o deny_v and_o that_o he_o be_v defendant_n so_o be_v r._n b._n also_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n unless_o to_o make_v the_o retortion_n the_o strong_a and_o show_v they_o can_v get_v by_o it_o but_o pag._n 60._o they_o say_v that_o whereas_o the_o jesuit_n press_v their_o master_n that_o heretic_n do_v say_v their_o religion_n be_v conform_v to_o the_o scripture_n as_o well_o as_o he_o and_o so_o the_o scripture_n be_v no_o peculiar_a ground_n for_o he_o more_o than_o for_o heretic_n they_o say_v their_o master_n answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o pretend_a but_o real_a conformity_n unto_o the_o scripture_n that_o demonstrat_n a_o true_a religion_n etc._n etc._n and_o upon_o this_o they_o inquire_v what_o follow_v allege_v they_o argue_v from_o be_v as_o good_a and_o not_o pretend_v and_o so_o fall_v a_o railling_a say_v that_o the_o light_n of_o our_o conscience_n be_v eclipse_v by_o a_o new_a find_v light_n and_o that_o we_o misrepresent_v they_o malicious_o this_o rail_n be_v for_o want_n of_o better_a reason_n but_o see_v they_o be_v so_o blind_a as_o not_o to_o see_v whether_o they_o will_v see_v it_o or_o not_o we_o shall_v tell_v they_o and_o we_o hope_v let_v the_o reader_n see_v what_o follow_v here_o from_o jo._n meinzies_n the_o student_n master_n say_v to_o the_o jesuit_n it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o heretic_n say_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o ground_n for_o their_o religion_n unless_o it_o real_o be_v so_o and_o that_o other_o heretic_n say_v so_o do_v not_o infer_v that_o it_o be_v as_o little_a a_o ground_n for_o his_o own_o to_o wit_n j._n ms._n religion_n very_o well_o the_o quaker_n tell_v the_o student_n that_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o heretic_n declare_v they_o have_v the_o spirit_n unless_o it_o be_v real_o so_o and_o their_o say_n they_o have_v it_o while_o they_o have_v it_o not_o do_v not_o infer_v that_o our_o say_n we_o have_v it_o be_v as_o little_a a_o ground_n for_o we_o who_o but_o such_o as_o be_v as_o childish_a as_o the_o student_n will_v affirm_v there_o be_v here_o any_o difference_n but_o further_a they_o confound_v most_o ignor_n ant_o the_o internal_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n with_o the_o declaration_n of_o have_v the_o spirit_n which_o be_v two_o different_a thing_n it_o be_v incumbent_n upon_o they_o to_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o internal_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v as_o good_a a_o evidence_n for_o heretic_n as_o for_o we_o which_o they_o have_v not_o offer_v to_o do_v next_o they_o have_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o declaration_n of_o heretic_n be_v as_o good_a as_o we_o neither_o can_v they_o unless_o they_o can_v prove_v we_o to_o be_v false_a which_o they_o neither_o have_v nor_o can_v do_v but_o they_o have_v egregious_o fall_v in_o that_o in_o convenience_n they_o will_v fix_v upon_o we_o pag._n 58._o 59_o where_o in_o answer_v r._n bs._n retortion_n show_v they_o that_o if_o man_n being_n deceive_v contradict_v themselves_o or_o one_o another_o who_o say_v the_o spirit_n be_v the_o rule_n do_v infer_v the_o spirit_n not_o to_o be_v a_o certain_a rule_n than_o man_n being_n deceive_v contradict_v themselves_o and_o one_o another_o who_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v the_o rule_n will_v the_o same_o way_n infer_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o the_o rule_n here_o they_o be_v miserable_o put_v to_o it_o and_o therefore_o not_o ashamed_a to_o deny_v that_o they_o plead_v not_o against_o the_o spirit_n be_v a_o rule_n for_o these_o cause_n the_o contrary_a for_o which_o be_v know_v to_o all_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o these_o controversy_n &_o for_o example_n let_v they_o read_v their_o so_o much_o applaud_v w._n mitchell_n his_o dialogue_n and_o his_o sober_a answer_n so_o call_v
it_o or_o that_o the_o student_n be_v too_o much_o addict_v to_o sin_n since_o they_o plead_v for_o the_o continuance_n of_o it_o for_o term_v of_o life_n they_o be_v little_o less_o than_o enrage_a that_o g._n k_o shall_v have_v allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o augustine_n and_o bernard_n interpret_n this_o place_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o therefore_o they_o labour_v like_o man_n in_o a_o sweat_n for_o a_o whole_a page_n against_o this_o to_o no_o purpose_n the_o only_a reason_n of_o g._n ks._n cite_v they_o be_v because_o some_o of_o their_o preacher_n cry_v out_o against_o this_o allegory_n as_o a_o horrid_a abusive_a thing_n in_o some_o q._n to_o show_v they_o it_o be_v none_o of_o the_o q._n coin_v but_o already_o use_v by_o man_n by_o themselves_o applaud_v and_o commend_v upon_o this_o they_o ask_v have_v not_o some_o of_o our_o antagonist_n be_v observe_v to_o make_v a_o welshmans_fw-mi hose_n of_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o genesis_n if_o they_o mean_v we_o let_v they_o prove_v we_o have_v so_o do_v as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v they_o have_v use_v the_o apostle_n james_n with_o their_o three_o face_a interpretatian_n and_o again_o they_o ask_v have_v not_o some_o q._n be_v bold_a to_o aver_v that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o such_o real_a tree_n as_o the_o tree_n of_o knowledge_n of_o good_a and_o evil_a if_o they_o have_v let_v they_o instance_n and_o prove_v by_o who_o it_o be_v speak_v and_o write_v and_o then_o they_o shall_v have_v a_o answer_n as_o they_o proceed_v they_o give_v a_o egregious_a specimen_fw-la of_o their_o folly_n allege_v that_o if_o it_o do_v hold_v as_o g._n k._n affirm_v that_o woman_n be_v not_o allow_v to_o speak_v by_o permission_n then_o à _fw-la fortiori_fw-la it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o they_o to_o speak_v by_o commandment_n who_o but_o the_o student_n will_v talk_v at_o this_o rate_n as_o if_o a_o commandment_n may_v not_o authorise_v a_o man_n to_o do_v that_o which_o a_o bare_a permission_n will_v not_o g._n ks._n argument_n draw_v from_o their_o own_o allow_v whore_n to_o speak_v and_o woman_n to_o sing_v they_o call_v quible_n because_o they_o can_v not_o answer_v which_o they_o reply_v to_o only_o by_o question_n do_v they_o allow_v whore_n authoritative_a preach_n affirm_v woman_n may_v sing_v very_o well_o whether_o it_o be_v authoritative_a or_o not_o whatsoever_o way_n they_o speak_v they_o keep_v not_o silence_n and_o so_o the_o apostl_n word_n be_v not_o take_v strict_o and_o literal_o which_o gain_v we_o the_o cause_n and_o show_v our_o doctrine_n be_v no_o more_o direct_o against_o the_o apostl_n word_n then_o their_o own_o beside_o from_o this_o it_o follow_v by_o the_o student_n confession_n that_o woman_n may_v as_o lawful_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o licentiat_fw-la student_n who_o the_o presbytery_n permit_v to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n before_o they_o be_v ordain_v they_o pass_v our_o chief_a objection_n very_o overly_o draw_v from_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 5._o where_o the_o apostle_n give_v direct_a rule_n how_o woman_n shall_v behave_v themselves_o in_o their_o public_a pray_v and_o preach_v allege_v there_o be_v rule_v give_v in_o scripture_n concern_v thing_n that_o be_v never_o lawful_a but_o only_o permit_v etc._n etc._n as_o of_o polygamy_n under_o the_o law_n but_o they_o shall_v have_v remember_v that_o these_o be_v rule_n give_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o christian_a church_n of_o corinth_n and_o see_v the_o student_n suppose_v that_o the_o apostle_n give_v direction_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n not_o only_o of_o thing_n that_o belong_v not_o to_o they_o now_o but_o which_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o they_o a_o doctrine_n we_o question_v if_o their_o master_n will_v approve_v of_o or_o of_o the_o consequence_n of_o which_o themselves_o be_v aware_a it_o remain_v for_o they_o to_o prove_v that_o these_o two_o rule_n forbid_a woman_n speak_v belong_v to_o we_o or_o be_v not_o of_o the_o number_n of_o these_o useless_a rule_n more_o than_o that_o other_o concern_v the_o manner_n of_o their_o preach_n so_o we_o hope_v this_o solution_n be_v impugn_a and_o desire_v they_o may_v be_v sure_a not_o to_o forget_v to_o bring_v we_o this_o reason_n when_o they_o write_v next_o section_n four_o concern_v the_o necessity_n of_o immediate_a revelation_n to_o the_o build_n up_o of_o true_a faith_n contain_v a_o answer_n to_o the_o student_n second_o section_n from_o pag._n 78._o to_o pag._n 92._o in_o their_o state_v the_o controversy_n they_o say_v these_o inward_a revelation_n be_v not_o subjective_a revelation_n or_o divine_a illumination_n this_o be_v false_a for_o as_o we_o have_v above_o show_v one_o and_o the_o same_o illumination_n that_o be_v effective_a or_o subjective_a be_v also_o objective_a and_o the_o objective_n be_v effective_a again_o they_o say_v the_o question_n be_v not_o if_o immediate_a objective_a revelation_n be_v possible_a or_o be_v sometime_o make_v to_o some_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la this_o concession_n will_v overthrow_v much_o of_o all_o their_o own_o work_n for_o if_o they_o admit_v that_o any_o person_n in_o our_o time_n have_v immediate_a objective_a revelation_n admit_v peter_n or_o john_n their_o former_a argument_n will_v as_o much_o militate_fw-la against_o this_o real_a immediate_a objective_n revelation_n grant_v by_o they_o as_o against_o those_o which_o they_o do_v not_o grant_v see_v pag._n 7._o at_o the_o letter_n a_o they_o say_v suppose_v that_o the_o spirit_n reveall_n the_o object_n of_o faith_n immediate_o none_o will_v deny_v that_o he_o be_v a_o rule_n or_o rather_o ruler_n to_o they_o who_o have_v he_o so_o a_o good_a concession_n but_o which_o quite_o undo_v their_o own_o cause_n for_o now_o let_v we_o apply_v their_o former_a argument_n against_o this_o real_a objective_n revelation_n grant_v by_o they_o as_o thus_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o believe_v that_o as_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n of_o which_o there_o can_v be_v no_o evidence_n give_v but_o there_o can_v be_v no_o evidence_n in_o the_o world_n give_v of_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v in_o peter_n and_o john_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n again_o if_o peter_n &_o john_n say_v they_o can_v give_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o they_o to_o wit_n their_o own_o declaration_n in_o life_n and_o power_n as_o also_o the_o immediate_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n or_o the_o scripture_n testimony_n let_v we_o apply_v in_o the_o last_o place_n their_o argument_n use_v against_o we_o and_o see_v if_o it_o will_v not_o be_v as_o good_a against_o peter_n and_o john_n who_o they_o grant_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la according_a to_o their_o hypothesis_n to_o have_v immediate_a objective_a revelation_n the_o argument_n be_v this_o that_o which_o as_o real_o agree_v to_o enthusiast_n heretic_n as_o to_o they_o can_v be_v no_o evidence_n but_o that_o evidence_n to_o wit_n their_o own_o declaration_n and_o say_v that_o both_o they_o and_o their_o adversary_n have_v the_o immediate_a testimony_n of_o the_o spirit_n witness_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o will_v as_o real_o agree_v to_o enthusiast_n heretic_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n yea_o not_o only_o may_v they_o thus_o argue_v against_o any_o man_n have_v immediate_a objective_n revelation_n in_o our_o day_n but_o against_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n have_v it_o see_v the_o argument_n may_v every_o way_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o their_o have_v it_o as_o against_o our_o have_v it_o especial_o at_o such_o time_n as_o they_o wrought_v no_o outward_a miracle_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o people_n to_o who_o they_o be_v send_v as_o oft_o they_o do_v not_o when_o the_o lord_n send_v ionas_n to_o preach_v to_o the_o ninivites_n he_o wrought_v no_o miracle_n in_o their_o sight_n now_o let_v we_o put_v the_o student_n in_o the_o ninivites_fw-la place_n and_o we_o shall_v find_v they_o can_v argue_v as_o stout_o and_o hardy_o against_o ionas_n as_o now_o they_o can_v do_v against_o any_o quaker_n they_o can_v tell_v he_o he_o can_v give_v no_o evidence_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o he_o give_v any_o such_o message_n as_o for_o his_o declaration_n it_o will_v not_o suffice_v because_o his_o say_n he_o have_v the_o spirit_n will_v be_v as_o good_a a_o ground_n for_o any_o other_o enthusiast_n heretic_n but_o further_o these_o stout_a and_o hardy_a warrior_n can_v have_v use_v these_o same_o argument_n against_o the_o prophet_n when_o they_o wrought_v miracle_n for_o they_o can_v have_v allege_v the_o miracle_n be_v not_o true_a miracle_n but_o false_a and_o such_o as_o may_v be_v do_v by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o so_o if_o any_o can_v produce_v miracle_n now_o as_o there_o have_v be_v they_o will_v no_o more_o be_v believe_v than_o the_o unbelieve_a jew_n believe_v the_o miracle_n wrought_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n for_o they_o