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A74671 The bar, against free admission to the Lords Supper, fixed. Or, An answer to Mr. Humphrey his Rejoynder, or, reply. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap, London. R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669. 1656 (1656) Wing D2128; Thomason E1593_1; ESTC R208860 271,720 506

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but_o remote_a it_o follow_v not_o that_o because_o pardon_n be_v by_o the_o seal_n apply_v to_o some_o traitor_n therefore_o it_o be_v offer_v to_o all_o traitor_n no_o more_o be_v it_o true_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o because_o grace_n be_v seal_v by_o particular_a application_n to_o some_o person_n in_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o it_o be_v offer_v unto_o all_o the_o consequent_a indeed_o be_v true_a not_o so_o the_o consequence_n in_o the_o last_o clause_n mr._n humphrey_n be_v ambiguous_a if_o by_o every_o single_a person_n he_o mean_v every_o man_n woman_n and_o child_n in_o the_o world_n then_o undoubted_o conviction_n of_o the_o general_a offer_n flow_v proper_o and_o immediate_o from_o such_o application_n but_o there_o never_o be_v nor_o will_v be_v such_o a_o application_n if_o by_o every_o single_a person_n he_o mean_v some_o single_a person_n of_o all_o sort_n neither_o be_v there_o such_o a_o application_n at_o the_o sacrament_n even_o in_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o own_o judgement_n who_o exclude_v not_o only_o idiot_n but_o also_o heathen_a and_o excommunicate_v person_n if_o by_o every_o single_a person_n he_o mean_v only_o every_o person_n admit_v to_o receive_v here_o his_o every_o person_n note_v but_o some_o person_n in_o the_o world_n nor_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o the_o covenant_n be_v apply_v to_o some_o person_n by_o actual_a receive_v therefore_o it_o be_v offer_v unto_o all_o my_o assertion_n then_o hold_v thus_o far_o true_a that_o conviction_n of_o the_o general_a offer_n of_o the_o covenant_n come_v by_o signification_n and_o general_a obsignation_n not_o by_o personal_a and_o particular_a obsignation_n and_o application_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o drive_v at_o and_o which_o mr._n humphrey_n must_v evince_v if_o he_o will_v speak_v to_o purpose_n nor_o be_v the_o distinction_n between_o offering_n and_o apply_v so_o nice_a as_o he_o will_v make_v it_o mr._n humphrey_n 3_o lie_n conviction_n that_o christ_n be_v i_o in_o particular_a as_o to_o faith_n of_o particular_a evidence_n come_v not_o at_o all_o by_o the_o sacrament_n 1._o because_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v nothing_o but_o the_o word_n which_o speak_v not_o particular_o i_o believe_v 2_o lie_n what_o be_v common_a to_o the_o hypocrite_n with_o the_o true_a believer_n can_v bring_v any_o evidence_n to_o i_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o let_v the_o reader_n mark_v it_o mr._n humphrey_n deny_v that_o faith_n of_o evidence_n come_v either_o by_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n 2_o lie_n he_o deny_v it_o upon_o a_o popish_a ground_n because_o the_o word_n speak_v not_o particular_o 3_o lie_n we_o grant_v the_o word_n say_v not_o particular_o thou_o john_n humphrey_n shall_v be_v save_v no_o more_o do_v it_o say_v thou_o john_n humphrey_n shall_v rise_v from_o the_o dead_a or_o thou_o john_n humphrey_n shall_v have_v no_o other_o god_n but_o jehovah_n can_v mr._n humphrey_n therefore_o attain_v to_o a_o faith_n of_o evidence_n that_o he_o in_o particular_a shall_v rise_v and_o that_o its_o his_o duty_n in_o particular_a to_o have_v jehovah_n only_o for_o his_o god_n 4_o lie_n we_o grant_v the_o sacrament_n seal_v nothing_o but_o the_o word_n but_o do_v not_o the_o sacrament_n by_o seal_v ratify_v the_o word_n and_o then_o if_o the_o word_n conduce_v to_o faith_n of_o evidence_n do_v not_o the_o sacrament_n also_o take_v for_o instance_n the_o syllogism_n of_o assurance_n he_o that_o believe_v shall_v be_v save_v i_o believe_v therefore_o i_o shall_v be_v save_v the_o conclusion_n i_o shall_v be_v save_v be_v faith_n of_o evidence_n this_o conclusion_n depend_v necessary_o upon_o both_o proposition_n the_o major_n be_v scripture_n in_o term_n mark_v 16._o 26._o the_o minor_a we_o say_v depend_v partly_o upon_o scripture_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o true_a faith_n lay_v down_o therein_o according_a to_o mr._n humphrey_n here_o with_o who_o we_o also_o agree_v the_o minor_a depend_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o my_o own_o conscience_n and_o the_o spirit_n the_o conclusion_n flow_v necessary_o from_o both_o if_o so_o then_o assurance_n depend_v in_o part_n upon_o scripture_n and_o particular_o the_o promise_n this_o promise_n be_v ratify_v by_o the_o sacrament_n as_o by_o a_o seal_n and_o how_o then_o can_v mr._n humphrey_n his_o assertion_n hold_v water_n that_o faith_n of_o evidence_n come_v not_o at_o all_o by_o the_o sacrament_n if_o my_o evidence_n for_o a_o possession_n depend_v upon_o a_o deed_n and_o that_o deed_n be_v ratify_v by_o a_o seal_n be_v it_o not_o clear_a my_o evidence_n depend_v much_o upon_o the_o seal_n be_v not_o a_o deed_n cancel_v by_o pull_v off_o the_o seal_n and_o do_v it_o not_o then_o depend_v much_o upon_o the_o seal_n true_o god_n word_n consider_v his_o infallibility_n be_v as_o good_a as_o his_o bond_n yet_o to_o strengthen_v our_o weak_a faith_n he_o be_v please_v to_o annex_v seal_n etc._n etc._n that_o by_o strong_a assurance_n we_o may_v have_v strong_a consolation_n heb._n 6._o 17_o 18._o his_o second_o argument_n as_o it_o make_v further_a discovery_n of_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o judgement_n so_o it_o shameful_o lay_v open_v his_o weakness_n it_o discover_v his_o judgement_n that_o he_o believe_v no_o outward_a ordinance_n can_v bring_v any_o evidence_n it_o discover_v his_o weakness_n in_o assert_v that_o nothing_o common_a to_o hypocrite_n with_o believer_n can_v bring_v evidence_n to_o any_o which_o though_o true_a in_o some_o sense_n be_v false_a in_o his_o sense_n and_o he_o may_v as_o well_o say_v nothing_o common_a to_o hypocrite_n with_o believer_n can_v convert_v and_o thereby_o deny_v the_o power_n of_o conversion_n to_o the_o word_n preach_v can_v the_o word_n convert_v and_o can_v it_o not_o evidence_n conversion_n can_v it_o convince_v i_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n and_o can_v it_o not_o as_o well_o convince_v i_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n can_v it_o do_v the_o great_a and_o can_v it_o not_o do_v the_o lesser_a true_o nothing_o common_a to_o hypocrite_n with_o believer_n can_v be_v a_o formal_a cause_n of_o evidence_n but_o divers_a thing_n common_a to_o both_o may_v be_v efficient_a cause_n of_o evidence_n i_o mean_v as_o instrument_n to_o wit_n prayer_n by_o impetration_n the_o word_n by_o conviction_n the_o sacrament_n by_o obsignation_n and_o conscience_n by_o reflection_n all_o back_v by_o the_o spirit_n as_o the_o principle_n who_o by_o the_o word_n etc._n etc._n convince_v of_o righteousness_n and_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o of_o sin_n john_n 16._o 8._o for_o his_o reply_n to_o my_o answer_n of_o his_o four_o consideration_n 79._o pag._n 79._o illustrate_v by_o the_o magician_n and_o his_o friend_n it_o may_v indeed_o take_v the_o reader_n with_o its_o pleasantness_n but_o be_v altogether_o impertinent_a unless_o mr._n humphrey_n can_v prove_v that_o suspension_n be_v not_o only_o the_o occasion_n but_o also_o the_o proper_a cause_n of_o church-division_n i_o wonder_v mr._n humphrey_n do_v not_o cry_v out_o of_o all_o church-censure_n and_o excommunication_n itself_o upon_o the_o same_o account_n see_v my_o answer_n to_o his_o four_o consideration_n page_n 49_o and_o 50._o of_o my_o bar_n which_o mr._n humphrey_n only_o play_v with_o in_o his_o reply_n as_o well_o know_v it_o will_v bear_v jest_n better_o than_o earnest_n sect._n vii_o 80._o pag._n 80._o in_o defence_n of_o his_o second_o reason_n he_o make_v the_o sacrament_n essential_a note_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n ans_fw-fr i_o grant_v the_o sacrament_n right_o administer_v be_v infallible_a note_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a but_o i_o question_v whether_o they_o be_v essential_a note_n because_o such_o note_n hold_v both_o negative_o and_o affirmative_o a_o essential_a note_n of_o a_o man_n prove_v the_o subject_n where_o it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o man_n and_o the_o subject_n where_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v no_o man_n upon_o which_o account_n i_o dare_v not_o say_v the_o sacrament_n be_v essential_a note_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a since_o a_o church_n may_v be_v true_o visible_a though_o it_o have_v they_o not_o for_o a_o long_a time_n such_o be_v the_o church_n of_o those_o israelite_n who_o be_v not_o circumcise_a in_o the_o wilderness_n josh_n 5._o ve_fw-la s_o 5_o 7._o which_o answer_v our_o baptism_n nor_o do_v i_o doubt_v but_o constantine_n the_o great_a be_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n even_o before_o he_o be_v baptise_a the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o abraham_n family_n before_o circumcision_n be_v institute_v and_o likewise_o of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la who_o be_v member_n though_o incomplete_a of_o the_o church-visible_a yet_o be_v admit_v to_o neither_o of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o however_o necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la yet_o be_v not_o necessary_a absolute_o necessitate_v medit_n so_o their_o absence_n proceed_v not_o from_o contempt_n the_o
this_o nature_n be_v but_o god_n ape_n how_o do_v jordan_n cure_v the_o leper_n 2_o king_n 5._o 14._o how_o do_v peter_n shadow_n cure_v the_o sick_a act_n 5._o 15._o how_o do_v paul_n handkerchief_n both_o cure_n disease_n and_o cast_v out_o devil_n act_n 19_o 12._o all_o these_o be_v but_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n miraculous_a presence_n and_o why_o may_v not_o god_n when_o he_o please_v concur_v supernatural_o with_o baptism_n in_o order_n to_o regeneration_n as_o he_o concur_v with_o jordan_n a_o shadow_n or_o handkerchief_n in_o order_n to_o cure_v or_o dis-possession_n i_o believe_v divine_a concourse_n be_v much_o after_o this_o nature_n in_o every_o ordinance_n when_o saving_o effectual_a and_o baptism_n apply_v to_o a_o infant_n or_o to_o a_o man_n be_v but_o as_o paul_n handkerchief_n be_v to_o a_o infant_n or_o to_o a_o man_n the_o man_n may_v understand_v this_o handkerchief_n come_v from_o paul_n body_n and_o will_v be_v effectual_a to_o heal_v he_o this_o the_o infant_n can_v not_o understand_v yet_o the_o effect_n of_o heal_v follow_v alike_o in_o both_o nor_o be_v the_o handkerchief_n more_o powerful_a to_o heal_v the_o man_n because_o he_o be_v intelligent_a but_o possible_o his_o intelligence_n may_v prove_v a_o bar_n he_o be_v thereby_o capable_a of_o a_o act_n of_o unbelief_n which_o may_v hinder_v the_o cure_n matth._n 13._o 58._o and_o 17._o 19_o 20._o mark_v 6._o 6._o and_o 9_o 23_o 24._o act_n 14._o 9_o which_o actual_a unbelief_n infant_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o thus_o the_o word_n preach_v have_v a_o natural_a aptitude_n to_o illuminate_v the_o mind_n with_o common_a knowledge_n of_o christ_n but_o never_o of_o itself_o can_v work_v a_o save_a understanding_n or_o regeneration_n this_o be_v whole_o in_o god_n power_n we_o must_v therefore_o extend_v the_o notion_n of_o a_o moral_a instrument_n further_o than_o m._n h._n do_v that_o be_v true_o a_o moral_a instrument_n not_o only_o which_o work_v by_o way_n of_o signification_n to_o my_o understanding_n but_o that_o also_o upon_o which_o be_v use_v a_o effect_n of_o another_o kind_n follow_v by_o way_n of_o compact_n or_o otherwise_o whether_o i_o understand_v it_o or_o not_o thus_o a_o witch_n be_v the_o moral_a cause_n of_o a_o child_n death_n but_o the_o devil_n be_v the_o physical_a cause_n thereof_o he_o apply_v his_o natural_a power_n by_o god_n permission_n upon_o the_o witch_n use_v of_o his_o ceremony_n for_o that_o purpose_n to_o kill_v the_o child_n and_o thus_o the_o minister_n and_o ordinance_n be_v the_o moral_a instrument_n of_o conversion_n but_o god_n be_v the_o physical_a or_o rather_o hyperphysical_a cause_n thereof_o nor_o do_v we_o by_o this_o doctrine_n deviate_v to_o the_o popish_a opus_fw-la operatum_fw-la but_o honour_n god_n liberty_n sovereignty_n and_o grace_n who_o when_o he_o please_v concur_v with_o his_o ordinance_n supernatural_o in_o order_n to_o conversion_n and_o regeneration_n wrought_v then_o infallible_o and_o not_o otherwise_o and_o certain_o if_o baptism_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n why_o may_v not_o infant_n thus_o be_v convert_v by_o it_o as_o well_o as_o elder_a person_n especial_o when_o at_o the_o hour_n of_o baptism_n faith_n and_o devotion_n be_v upon_o the_o wing_n in_o the_o parent_n friend_n god_n people_n and_o the_o minister_n assemble_v to_o wrestle_v with_o god_n that_o he_o will_v please_v to_o wash_v the_o child_n in_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n etc._n etc._n whence_o public_a baptism_n be_v more_o eligible_a than_o private_a baptism_n and_o thus_o upon_o the_o supposition_n it_o may_v also_o be_v effectual_a to_o the_o intelligent_a person_n baptize_v yet_o not_o simple_o because_o he_o be_v intelligent_a but_o because_o of_o god_n supernatural_a concourse_n in_o he_o as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o infant_n the_o work_n of_o conversion_n be_v supernatural_a in_o every_o subject_n 2._o whereas_o m._n h._n say_v ib._n john_n first_o baptize_v the_o people_n and_o then_o exhort_v they_o to_o repentance_n if_o his_o meaning_n be_v exclusive_a that_o john_n do_v not_o exhort_v to_o repentance_n before_o but_o only_o after_o baptism_n i_o believe_v he_o will_v find_v little_a favour_n from_o the_o text_n for_o such_o a_o opinion_n it_o be_v evident_a mat._n 3._o 11._o that_o john_n lead_v they_o from_o his_o baptism_n to_o christ_n for_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o a_o future_a thing_n withal_o that_o he_o preach_v to_o they_o before_o he_o baptize_v to_o i_o seem_v more_o than_o probable_a by_o compare_v vers_n 2_o 5_o 6_o 7._o of_o mat._n 3._o beside_o suppose_v the_o exhortation_n be_v after_o baptism_n and_o that_o some_o be_v convert_v upon_o the_o place_n the_o great_a question_n will_v be_v which_o show_v the_o weakness_n of_o m._n h._n his_o inference_n whether_o they_o be_v convert_v by_o john_n baptism_n or_o by_o his_o follow_a exhortation_n for_o his_o instance_n in_o the_o convert_v act_v 2._o it_o be_v more_o than_o m._n h._n can_v prove_v that_o their_o faith_n be_v only_o historical_a likely_a it_o may_v be_v so_o in_o some_o of_o they_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o their_o baptism_n do_v convert_v they_o any_o more_o than_o it_o do_v simon_n magus_n who_o may_v afterward_o be_v convert_v by_o some_o of_o those_o sermon_n which_o they_o hear_v every_o day_n or_o hold_v out_o in_o a_o form_n of_o godliness_n to_o their_o die_a day_n as_o ananias_n and_o saphira_n do_v the_o text_n say_v they_o be_v all_o baptize_v act_v 2._o 41._o but_o it_o do_v not_o say_v that_o any_o of_o they_o be_v convert_v by_o baptism_n m._n d._n can_v any_o man_n make_v the_o seal_n a_o cause_n of_o the_o writing_n m._n h._n p._n 212._o here_o be_v the_o man_n error_n still_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o inward_a writing_n in_o man_n heart_n be_v not_o the_o sacrament_n but_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o seal_v i_o hope_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o writing_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o inward_a writing_n though_o not_o the_o sole_a or_o principal_a seal_n have_v former_o be_v prove_v which_o therefore_o i_o pass_v 2._o that_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n may_v be_v both_o a_o seal_n and_o a_o cause_n as_o well_o as_o a_o sign_n and_o a_o cause_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v not_o a_o cause_n as_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n the_o spirit_n first_o work_v than_o evidence_n grace_v wrought_v in_o that_o it_o act_n as_o a_o cause_n in_o this_o as_o a_o seal_n when_o therefore_o i_o say_v the_o seal_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o writing_n my_o meaning_n be_v that_o as_o a_o seal_n it_o be_v not_o a_o cause_n of_o the_o writing_n but_o under_o a_o other_o notion_n m._n h._n interpret_v it_o simpliciter_fw-la which_o i_o propound_v secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la and_o so_o abuse_v both_o i_o and_o the_o reader_n page_n 213._o m._n h._n will_v fain_o court_v i_o from_o my_o yield_n to_o universal_a presence_n to_o yield_v to_o universal_a receive_n but_o i_o must_v entreat_v he_o to_o excuse_v i_o since_o i_o find_v none_o in_o scripture_n forbid_v to_o be_v present_a but_o i_o find_v divers_a in_o scripture_n forbid_v to_o receive_v as_o have_v former_o be_v prove_v and_o i_o hope_v that_o upon_o second_o thought_n he_o will_v be_v more_o charitable_a than_o to_o judge_v i_o upon_o this_o account_n as_o trifle_v with_o this_o holy_a ordinance_n and_o with_o the_o conscience_n of_o people_n his_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o see_v to_o the_o taste_n of_o christ_n sacramental_a will_v not_o hold_v till_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o a_o sight_n of_o christ_n sacramental_a be_v effectual_a to_o convert_v and_o withal_o that_o the_o precept_n take_v eat_v do_v immediate_o take_v in_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n and_o if_o so_o then_o let_v his_o jure_fw-la excommunicate_a receive_v also_o his_o instance_n of_o thomas_n feel_v and_o believe_v prove_v only_o that_o feel_n may_v draw_v out_o a_o act_n of_o 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