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A65877 The pernicious way of the rigid presbyter and antichristian ministers detected and several weighty matters (in controversie, betwixt Sion and her adversaires, or between the true church and the false) discussed : to inform both magistrates, ministers, and people, Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1662 (1662) Wing W1945; ESTC R22439 27,993 34

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in reference to his manifestation in time for their sakes that were lost in the first Adam and yet he is the first and the last M. C. Those that were of the number of Gods Elect in Ages past waited for the Son of God from Heaven who was raised from the dead 1 Thes. 1.4 10. Now sure I am that 't was the visible Body of Flesh which was dead and raised from the dead which the Saints waited for and in pag. 43. Our Faith and full perswasion that Christ is a visible glorified man leads us to expect his second coming as a distinct appearance from and not in his People c. Answer 1. If the Saints of God in ages past and the number of the Elect did after Christ's Ascension wait for his visible Body of flesh from Heaven as here he implies then it appears in their dayes they waited in vain and missed of their expectations if so and this would render their Hope and Faith in the coming of Christ of none effect But the Apostle witnessed the contrary as in 1 Thes. 1.9 10. when the Thessalonians were turned from Idols then they waited for the Son of God from Heaven and Ch. 4.15 We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord c. So the Saints though in part they were then eye witnesses of the coming and glory of the Lord yet they grew further in the knowledge of the several operations appearances and out-goings of him whose out-going have been from of old as they grew from glory to glory by the same Spirit 2 Cor. 3.18 and the Apostles made known unto men the power and coming of the Lord Jesus Christ which power wrought in them and they that looked for Christ in the Apostles dayes it was promised unto them that he should appear the second time without sin unto Salvation Heb. 9.28 which if this coming of Christ was the coming of a visible Body of flesh then the Saints in ages past did not attain to the coming of Christ in their dayes nor yet to Salvation from sin which erroneous conclusion that follows from M. C. his assertion no wise man will own for if the Saints in their dayes did not experience the coming of Christ unto their Salvation from sin then where and in what state are they now that are so long since deceased doth he suppose them to be in some Purgatory Surely M. C. is very ignorant both of the spiritual knowledge coming and work of Christ which was known in the Saints and not carnally expected afar off as he doth who would shut Christ and his coming out of his People And where in pag. 44. as his proofs he cites Rev. 22.20 where it 's said Surely I come quickly even so come Lord Jesus and Act. 7. touching Stephen his looking up into Heaven and seeing Jesus standing at the right hand of God what doth M. C. suppose that whereas Christ promised to come quickly and John so prayed for his coming quickly that this was a coming in a visible Body of flesh or that Stephen did see a visible Body of flesh in Heaven with carnal eyes as he seems so much to imply This is gross Ignorance for Stephen's being full of the Holy Ghost was the ground and cause of his seeing Heaven open and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God As also in pag. 40. he denies That it was the eternal Spirit that prayed in the man Christ Joh. 17. and denies Jesus Christ to be the Annointing but only the Anointed Wherein his ignorance may be apparent to all that can see who read this for Christ and his Father are one who said The Son can do nothing of himself and as being a quickning Spirit and the Seed of Promise he is both the Anointing and the Anointed not divided though the manifestations of him as such are several and his operations divers in the Saints And as concerning Christ dwelling in the Saints M. C. his interpretation of it is That he is deep in their affections much and oft in their thoughts and meditations and for proof brings Phil. 1.7 2 Cor. 7.3 touching the Saints being in one anothers hearts Answer But Christ doth not appear to be very deep in M. C. his affections or meditations who would keep him out of his People as several of his Principles imply who now would have Christ only to be but often in the thoughts and meditations of his People which doth not fully reach the Being of Christ in the Saints to operate act move and Rule in his Members who are in him and he in them giving them life dominion and peace whose life is manifest in their mortal Bodies and he dwelling in their hearts by Faith which is more than to be often in their thoughts and meditations as if he might be often forgotten And whereas M. C. makes a great cavilling against that Doctrin of the Light of Christ being placed in People as to be a sufficient Rule and of such a Light being in every man and saith That Humphry Smith in the face of men and Devils affirmeth That there is no other Rule Wayes means or Name by which man shall ever come to walk with God but by that which is manifest of God in him And in opposition to this Doctrine M. C. goes about to set the Scriptures outward Commands and Teachings as usless if there be such a Light in men pag. 48. and eight or more times in his scorn he reiterates these words viz. Turn to the Light within saith the Quaker pag. 49 50. Answer That of the Light of Christ being a sufficient Rule and being in some measure universally extended to all as Christ enlightens every man is a Truth which indeed we do vindicate both against men and Devils who doth oppose it for it appears it is the Devils and such as are led by them that oppose this Principle and that is the reason why we are constrained so much to appear against them in it to their faces And we in owning the sufficiency of this Light in men do neither make void nor disown the Scriptures nor true outward Teaching knowing that by the Light or that which may be known of God within men come to see and feel the right end and use of outward Teaching and the Scriptures for the Spirit of Truth leadeth into all Truth and where the Light of Christ within is believed and obeyed it leadeth out of darkness and out of the wayes and works of darkness into the path and way of the Just which is a shining Light that shineth more and more until the perfect day Prov. 4.18 But there is a Generation that rejects and rebels against the Light that knows not the wayes of it because they do not abide in the paths of it Job 24.13 And though we do own outward Teaching so far as it tends to direct peoples minds to the Light of Christ within and the Scriptures in their place yet we know that God is not limitted or tyed to those outward things as if none could be saved or had a true Rule to walk with God by but they who have the letter of the Scriptures and outward Teaching for the extent of the Grace of God which bringeth Salvation is larger than so it having appeared to all men and is sufficient to teach to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live righteously c. Tit. 2.11 Rom. 5.18 and many have this Grace given them that have neither the Scriptures nor the outward ministration of the Gospel though it be preached in every Creature 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Col. 1.23 yet where and as the Lord is pleased to send outward Teaching it is of use as to the turning of People to the Light of Christ which shineth in the hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God in the face of Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 M. C. in pag. 48. saith of the Apostles What were they to preach to them not that one thing of turning to the Light their Teacher within but all things whatsoever Mat. 28.19 20. all the Counsel of God Act. 20.27 Answ. What were the Apostles to preach all things whatsoever all the Counsel of God and yet not the Light within What was that none of the Counsel of God Herein this man hath more lost himself than ever and yet he is made in general words to confess that Christ was set to be a Light of the Gentiles and what were they not to turn to his Light within This is gross ignorance and error for Christ who is come a Light into the world that whosoever believeth in him might have everlasting Life and who is given a Light to enlighten the Gentiles Luk. 2.32 is the way to the Father and the Way the Truth and the Life and his Life is the Light of men Joh. 1.4 9. And did not the Apostles preach to turn men to his Light that one thing in them I see for all M. C. his scoffing and cavilling against the Light within and our exhorting men to turn to it it stands over him and his folly and deceit though so often over he hath reiterated his canting language against the Light within more like the sturdy Beggars or a Ballad-singer or a Stage-player than a consciencious zealous Professor And the truth of this our Doctrin of the Light within will remain and live when all empty Professions carnal Ordinances Traditions and Will-worships which are upheld or practised without the guidance of the Light of Christ within will wither fall and come to naught as will all formal wilful and dry Professors who make war against and oppose the Light within and them that are in it Many more of M. C. his absurdities and slanders against the Truth and us I here omit as not worth either mentioning or taking notice of London Written near the beginning of the first Month 1662 From a living and tryed Witness of the powerful Truth GEORGE WHITEHEAD THE END