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A01748 A true relation of the faction begun at VVisbich by Fa. Edmonds, alias VVeston, a Iesuite, 1595. and continued since by Fa. Walley, alias Garnet, the prouincall of the Iesuits in England, and by Fa. Parsons in Rome, with their adherents: against vs the secular priests their bretheren and fellow prisoners, that disliked of nouelties, and thought it dishonourable to the auncient ecclesiasticall discipline of the Catholike Church, that secular priests should be gouerned by Iesuits. Bagshaw, Christopher, d. 1625?; Watson, William, 1559?-1603. 1601 (1601) STC 1188; ESTC S100519 61,716 102

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that they seldome fall out to be the honestest men who aredriuen so oft to seeke testimonials for the approuing of their good behauior But that is no matter with them and peraduenture that conceit here holdeth not at Rome so as maister Garnet did content himselfe with his owne course and made such haste therin as before August the same yeere the testimonial he got was with Fa. Parsons in the English Seminary And here we cannot omit one thing which indeede made vs a little merry in the middest of our sorrow how good Fa. Parsons was troubled with one mans subscription to the sayd testimoniall For thus he writeth as he pretendeth from Naples primo Augusti 1598. to the sayd party After I saw a particular testimony of your owne hand in latine concerning the memoriall giuen vp against the societie I could haue bin content you had not written it but either haue subscribed simpliciter as many other auncient and graue Priests did to the cunning letter as it was written being very modest and most true or that you had sayd nothing at all as well you might haue omitted the memoriall being writ and sent from Plaunders whilest you were yet in Italy and so that it was done and exhibited Te neque consentiente neque conscio for those are only the words of testimony that you giue was not needefull the thing being euident of it selfe and your particular writing so bare a thing vnder the common letter was to detract from all the letter before and for the matter it selfe which was most abhominable false and slaunderous you leaue it indifferent to be beleeued or not beleeued c. Were it not that you might hereby perceiue what packing and practising is amongst these fellowes for the maintenance of their owne credit and how swift they are in the expeditions they take in hand we would haue made no mention hereof because thereby our owne dulnes may iustly be condemned who all this while had not sent our messengers to Rome for the information of his holynes as touching our estates here and the common desire of vs secular Priests for a Bishop as before is mentioned In which slow proceeding we will leaue our brethren for a time and returne to maister Standish attending vpon Fa. Parsons in Rome After this good Father had gotten the Rectorship of the English Seminary it then pleased his Worship to proceede with the cause commended vnto him by his subiects in England Fa. Garnet and the rest We doubt not but that in the meane time he had conferred with his friends and was resolued of the plot he meant to effect the execution whereof was in manner as followeth Standish that honest man must haue accesse to the Popes holynes accompanyed with two runnagates both of them Priests Doctor Haddock and maister Martin Array These must take vpon them and so they did that they were men deputed from the secular Priests in England most humbly to intreate his Holynes that he would be pleased by his most preheminent Authority to appoynt a superior ouer the Church of England And the rather to perswade him thereunto they affirmed like very lying wretches that there was such great dissension betwixt the secular priests and the laytie as great inconueniences would certainely insue except one were placed amongst them that by his authority might reforme and reconcile them Now it is too well knowne that the strife which was heere rested betwixt vs and the Iesuites no one lay Catholick for ought we know being at enmity with any other secular Priests then with some few of vs that were at Wisbich and one or two more abroad that tooke our parts and the dislike that such lay persons had of vs was procured by the false practise of the Iesuites we our selues otherwise hauing neuer offended them nor interteyned any quarrell with them God is our iudge His Holynes hearing and marking well their suite demaunded of them in expresse tearmes if that which they had sayd vnto him proceeded from the desire and consent of his louing Priests in England affirming that otherwise he would in no sort giue any eare vnto them Where-unto maister Sandish very well instructed before by Father Parsons and sufficiently assisted by the sayd two lying Priests answered that what he had presumed to deliuer to his Holynes he had done it most assuredly by their consent If Ananias was iustly charged with lying to the holy Ghost in telling Saint Peter an vntruth being replenished with that holy spirit we see no cause why we may not so charge this dishonest company on with all his assistants Fa. Parsons and the rest in that they Iyed so apparantly to Saint Peters successor the Popes Holynes who we doubt not but that he is likewise indued with the spirit of God in such plentifull sort as the excellency of his high calling doth require For it is well knowne and may be proued most euidently if any dare be so shamelesse as to deny it that if you except Fa. Garnet and some one or two of his adherents the rest of the Priests in England generally were altogether ignorant of that deuise Insomuch as the sayd Standish after his returne into England being asked by certaine Priests how he durst presume so impudently to abuse his Holynes with so intolerable an vntruth he excused himselfe in this sort viz. that when he sayd he had the consent of the secular Priests in England to make that motion his answere therein was made by him Cautè that is subtilly or by equiuocation meaning to himselfe viz. as he supposed or presumed which words he kept in his minde and vttered not By which vngodly shift the tyranny wherewith now we are oppressed was hatched By this so false and Iesuiticall a sleight the Popes Holynes being abused as you haue heard committed that matter so propounded vnto him to the further consideration of Cardinall Caietane protector of the English Seminary and to Cardinall Burghesius which was the very plot that Fa. Parsons before had layd the sayd Cardinall protector being one with whom he the sayd Parsons had especiall familiaritie and friendship and by reason of his protectorship ouerruled the other Cardinall as he thought good so as they two being appointed for this seruice Parsons deseignement was in effect thereby accomplished Well it had hapned to vs if his Holynes had bin at that time indued with that worthie gift of the holy Ghost tearmed discretio spirituum that when he made this deputation to the Cardinall he might haue sayd to the aforesayd false wretches why haue you lyed to the holy Ghost that thereby either some extraordinary calamitie might haue fallen vpon them or his Holynes haue taken some other course for the inflicting vpon them such punishment as they deserued But the matter passed as you haue heard and Parsons must contriue it as he thinketh it conuenient which he did in sort as followeth One must gouerne all the Priests in England but Parsons durst