Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	ghost_n	holy_a	sin_n	3,325	5	4.9847	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A27035	A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease publick worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1681 (1681)	Wing B1405; ESTC R5124	188,187	234

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church_n wherefore_o if_o we_o suppose_v that_o there_o be_v no_o one_o visible_a church_n who_o communion_n be_v not_o taint_v with_o some_o corruption_n though_o if_o these_o corruption_n be_v enjoin_v as_o condition_n of_o communion_n i_o can_v communicate_v with_o any_o of_o those_o church_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o i_o be_o separate_v from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o that_o i_o only_o suspend_v communion_n with_o those_o particular_a church_n till_o i_o may_v safe_o join_v with_o they_o as_o suppose_v all_o the_o particular_a man_n i_o can_v converse_v with_o be_v infect_v with_o leprosy_n my_o not_o associate_a with_o they_o do_v not_o imply_v that_o i_o be_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o mankind_n but_o that_o i_o be_o loath_a to_o be_v infect_v as_o they_o be_v and_o therefore_o withdraw_v myself_o till_o i_o can_v meet_v with_o such_o healthful_a person_n with_o who_o i_o may_v safe_o associate_v again_o and_o 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upon_o it_o till_o all_o those_o reason_n and_o circumstance_n be_v due_o examine_v and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o it_o then_o it_o be_v formal_o schism_n i._o e._n a_o culpable_a separation_n if_o there_o be_v sufficient_a cause_n then_o there_o may_v be_v a_o separation_n but_o it_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n and_o because_o the_o union_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n lie_v in_o fundamental_a and_o necessary_a truth_n therefore_o there_o can_v be_v no_o separation_n absolute_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o what_o involve_v in_o it_o the_o formal_a guilt_n of_o schism_n it_o be_v impossible_a any_o person_n shall_v have_v just_a cause_n to_o disow_v the_o church_n communion_n for_o any_o thing_n who_o beleif_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o whosoever_o do_v so_o thereby_o make_v himself_o no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n because_o the_o church_n subsist_v on_o the_o beleif_n of_o fundamental_a truth_n but_o in_o all_o such_o case_n wherein_o a_o division_n may_v be_v make_v and_o yet_o the_o several_a person_n divide_v retain_v the_o essential_o of_o a_o christian_a church_n the_o separation_n which_o may_v be_v among_o any_o such_o must_v be_v determine_v according_a to_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v possible_a of_o one_o side_n that_o man_n out_o of_o capricious_a humour_n and_o fancy_n renounce_v the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n which_o require_v nothing_o but_o what_o be_v just_a and_o reasonable_a and_o it_o be_v possible_a on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o a_o church_n call_v herself_o catholic_n may_v so_o far_o degenerate_a in_o faith_n and_o practice_n as_o not_o only_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o great_a error_n and_o corruption_n but_o to_o impose_v they_o as_o condition_n of_o communion_n with_o she_o it_o be_v necessary_a where_o there_o be_v a_o manifest_a separation_n to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n of_o it_o and_o to_o determine_v the_o nature_n of_o it_o according_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o cause_n which_o be_v plead_v for_o it_o page_n 357._o the_o catholic_n church_n therefore_o lie_v open_a and_o free_a like_o a_o common_a field_n to_o all_o inhabitant_n now_o if_o any_o particular_a number_n of_o these_o inhabitant_n shall_v agree_v together_o to_o enclose_v part_n of_o it_o without_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n and_o not_o to_o admit_v any_o other_o to_o that_o right_n of_o common_a without_o consent_v to_o it_o which_o of_o these_o two_o party_n those_o who_o deny_v to_o yield_v their_o consent_n or_o such_o who_o deny_v their_o right_n if_o they_o will_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o public_a and_o common_a right_n of_o the_o place_n page_n 358._o although_o nothing_o separate_v a_o church_n proper_o from_o the_o catholic_n but_o what_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o it_o yet_o a_o church_n may_v separate_v herself_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n by_o take_v upon_o she_o to_o make_v such_o thing_n the_o necessary_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n which_o never_o be_v the_o condition_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n page_n 359._o since_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v free_a for_o many_o hundred_o year_n without_o approve_v or_o use_v these_o thing_n that_o church_n which_o shall_v not_o only_o public_o use_v but_o enjoin_v such_o thing_n upon_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n from_o the_o church_n do_v as_o much_o as_o in_o her_o lie_n draw_v the_o bound_n of_o catholic_n communion_n within_o herself_o and_o so_o divide_v herself_o from_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n for_o whatever_o confine_n must_v likewise_o divide_v the_o church_n for_o by_o that_o confinement_n a_o separation_n be_v make_v between_o the_o part_n confine_v and_o the_o other_o which_o separation_n must_v be_v make_v by_o the_o party_n so_o limit_v communion_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o donatist_n who_o be_v therefore_o charge_v with_o schism_n because_o they_o confine_v the_o catholic_n church_n within_o their_o own_o bound_n and_o if_o any_o other_o church_n do_v the_o same_o which_o they_o do_v it_o must_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o same_o charge_n that_o they_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o this_o discourse_n be_v that_o the_o be_v of_o the_o catholic_n church_n lie_v in_o essential_o that_o for_o a_o particular_a church_n to_o disagree_v from_o all_o other_o particular_a church_n in_o some_o extrinsical_a and_o accidental_a thing_n be_v not_o to_o separate_v from_o the_o catholic_n church_n so_o as_o to_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n but_o still_o what_o ever_o church_n make_v such_o extrinsical_a thing_n the_o necessary_a condition_n of_o communion_n so_o as_o to_o cast_v man_n out_o of_o the_o church_n who_o yield_v not_o to_o they_o be_v schismatical_a in_o so_o do_v for_o it_o thereby_o divide_v itself_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o the_o saparation_n from_o it_o be_v so_o

i_o contradict_v myself_o by_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n personal_a fault_n i_o distinguish_v from_o ministerial_a and_o tolerable_a ministerial_a from_o intolerable_a then_o and_o now_o and_o be_v this_o contradiction_n do_v not_o all_o do_v so_o too_o till_o now_o yea_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o 1._o say_v that_o as_o to_o personal_a fault_n as_o swear_v drunkenness_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v get_v a_o better_a man_n if_o lawful_o they_o can_v 2._o and_o i_o name_v just_a as_o here_o the_o intolerable_a insufficiency_n direct_a pag._n 747._o viz._n 1._o a_o utter_a insufficiency_n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n for_o the_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o ministerial_a work_n 2._o if_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o oppose_v the_o end_n of_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n by_o heresy_n malignity_n and_o i_o name_v the_o fault_n that_o necessitate_v not_o separation_n sect._n 20._o next_o he_o cit_v my_o word_n against_o some_o man_n factious_a separate_n humour_n and_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o many_o be_v unfit_a to_o judge_v aright_o that_o the_o people_n must_v take_v all_o obtrude_v pastor_n and_o not_o judge_v to_o who_o to_o trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n how_o unfit_a be_v the_o ignorant_a to_o judge_v who_o be_v a_o meet_a physician_n lawyer_n arbitrator_n yea_o or_o wife_n or_o husband_n for_o they_o and_o yet_o judge_v they_o must_v as_o well_o as_o they_o can_v do_v you_o not_o expect_v notwithstanding_o their_o unfitness_n that_o they_o judge_v your_o book_n and_o argue_v to_o be_v true_a than_o i_o and_o be_v it_o by_o your_o bare_a authority_n that_o they_o must_v so_o judge_v sect._n 21._o but_o he_o much_o blame_v i_o for_o lay_v the_o case_n far_o off_o when_o it_o be_v the_o london_n separation_n which_o he_o question_v where_o the_o minister_n be_v no_o such_o man_n answ_n can_v any_o man_n have_v so_o far_o search_v his_o heart_n as_o to_o know_v that_o he_o speak_v only_o against_o separation_n in_o this_o one_o city_n when_o there_o be_v no_o such_o limitation_n in_o his_o book_n and_o when_o the_o same_o law_n the_o same_o silencing_n fine_n imprisonment_n accusation_n of_o the_o preacher_n be_v all_o over_o the_o land_n but_o i_o be_o glad_a for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n elsewhere_o if_o it_o concern_v not_o they_o 2._o as_o to_o london_n he_o know_v that_o i_o give_v the_o preacher_n due_a honour_n and_o that_o i_o justify_v not_o any_o unnecessary_a separation_n of_o the_o people_n from_o they_o nor_o of_o the_o conformist_n from_o the_o nonconformist_n i_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o my_o own_o practice_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o let_v other_o man_n give_v account_n of_o they_o i_o know_v very_o many_o of_o my_o mind_n 3._o and_o he_o know_v that_o i_o oft_o tell_v he_o that_o many_o thing_n make_v good_a man_n action_n culpable_a in_o some_o degree_n that_o make_v they_o not_o criminall_n odious_a or_o to_o be_v ruin_v and_o that_o i_o give_v he_o many_o of_o their_o extenuation_n 4._o among_o the_o rest_n very_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n it_o look_v somewhat_o odd_o by_o the_o church_n law_n or_o canon_n ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la to_o excommunicate_a many_o score_n thousand_o in_o the_o land_n mere_o for_o profess_v to_o take_v some_o thing_n impose_v to_o be_v sin_n and_o then_o to_o revile_v and_o prosecute_v they_o as_o schismatic_n for_o not_o communicate_v with_o you_o 5._o and_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o law_n and_o the_o high_a ground_n be_v not_o always_o the_o terminus_n a_o quo_fw-la of_o schism_n some_o of_o they_o be_v never_o of_o your_o flock_n and_o therefore_o never_o separate_v from_o you_o but_o as_o you_o do_v from_o they_o and_o somewhat_o less_o 6._o and_o the_o king_n licence_n first_o and_o proclaim_v clemency_n often_o give_v they_o some_o possession_n as_o the_o law_n give_v you_o 7._o and_o plague_n fire_n and_o thousand_o that_o can_v hear_v you_o make_v it_o necessary_a but_o some_o parish_n church_n be_v not_o full_a answ_n i_o see_v none_o of_o those_o i_o come_v in_o divers_a where_o many_o can_v hear_v the_o preacher_n and_o will_v you_o have_v more_o and_o again_o i_o tell_v you_o 1._o they_o keep_v meeting_n in_o lesser_a parish_n to_o receive_v those_o that_o come_v out_o of_o great_a 2._o if_o those_o come_v to_o you_o they_o must_v keep_v out_o other_o 3._o when_o it_o be_v common_o know_v that_o in_o their_o own_o great_a parish_n there_o be_v not_o room_n it_o be_v hard_a for_o family_n to_o look_v about_o the_o city_n for_o room_n in_o uncertain_a place_n 4._o and_o all_o person_n that_o culpable_o dislike_v you_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v forsake_v sect._n 22._o but_o the_o same_o man_n that_o cit_v my_o reprehension_n of_o separation_n ask_v i_o why_o i_o do_v not_o disow_v it_o as_o if_o he_o present_o forget_v what_o he_o have_v write_v i_o disow_v schism_n and_o therefore_o the_o great_a in_o the_o sinful_a church-tearers_a that_o smite_v the_o shepherd_n and_o then_o cry_v out_o of_o the_o flock_n for_o be_v scatter_v and_o i_o disow_v the_o least_o but_o not_o by_o cruelty_n but_o in_o charity_n sect._n 23._o p._n 127._o he_o repeat_v the_o incapacity_n name_v by_o i_o viz._n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n by_o heresy_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v of_o all_o these_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n and_o so_o many_o separate_v thus_o no_o settle_a church_n can_v subsist_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o hard_a case_n that_o in_o such_o a_o volumn_n as_o this_o he_o will_v not_o tell_v we_o his_o own_o judgement_n further_o than_o the_o accuse_v of_o we_o intimate_v it_o which_o if_o we_o tell_v he_o of_o he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v not_o his_o sense_n will_v he_o open_o say_v that_o the_o people_n have_v not_o a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n in_o order_n to_o their_o own_o practice_n whether_o the_o preacher_n be_v a_o heretic_n papist_n infidel_n idolater_n or_o not_o but_o must_v take_v he_o for_o their_o pastor_n be_v he_o what_o he_o will_v i_o know_v he_o will_v not_o say_v it_o what_o then_o will_v he_o be_v at_o why_o do_v he_o accuse_v we_o for_o that_o which_o he_o dare_v not_o contradict_v do_v he_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o what_o case_n and_o how_o far_o they_o must_v judge_v no_o he_o shun_v all_o such_o question_n as_o tend_v to_o bring_v the_o cause_n into_o the_o light_n put_v twenty_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v few_o or_o none_o of_o they_o if_o he_o do_v perhaps_o we_o shall_v be_v agree_v whether_o he_o will_v or_o not_o but_o reader_n bear_v these_o tire_a repetition_n as_o i_o must_v do_v 1._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o ordainer_n and_o not_o the_o people_n who_o i_o make_v judge_n who_o shall_v be_v a_o minister_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o king_n and_o patron_n that_o i_o make_v the_o only_a judge_n who_o shall_v be_v tolerate_v and_o maintain_v by_o they_o and_o have_v the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n 3._o and_o that_o though_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v many_o hundred_o year_n for_o the_o people_n election_n i_o plead_v ad_fw-la esse_fw-la relationis_fw-la for_o no_o more_o as_o necessary_a but_o consent_n who_o shall_v be_v the_o pastor_n to_o who_o they_o will_v trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o this_o be_v but_o judicium_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o privatum_fw-la non_fw-la publicum_fw-la regentis_fw-la only_o guide_v each_o man_n own_o obedience_n to_o god_n 4._o he_o know_v if_o he_o will_v know_v that_o i._o say_v and_o say_v again_o that_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o law_n and_o ruler_n favour_v and_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n and_o parish_n order_n and_o national_a association_n be_v so_o great_a advantage_n to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o they_o and_o go_v another_o way_n but_o upon_o necessity_n and_o very_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n but_o i_o intend_v god_n will_v further_o to_o prove_v to_o he_o that_o when_o 9000_o minister_n be_v all_o require_v to_o sin_n or_o cease_v their_o ministry_n a_o necessity_n be_v put_v upon_o they_o to_o exercise_v it_o against_o such_o prohibition_n as_o far_o as_o they_o can_v without_o do_v more_o hurt_v than_o good_a and_o that_o the_o sinful_a compliance_n of_o 7000_o will_v not_o excuse_v the_o other_o 2000_o for_o this_o duty_n and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n which_o a_o friend_n of_o truth_n shall_v have_v debate_v sect._n 24._o p._n 126._o but_o say_v he_o how_o shall_v a_o man_n escape_v be_v think_v heretical_a by_o the_o people_n answ_n 1._o see_v his_o own_o answer_n here_o chap._n 1._o 2._o how_o shall_v one_o get_v all_o the_o world_n to_o be_v wise_a and_o good_a if_o i_o know_v i_o can_v procure_v it_o but_o put_v the_o case_n within_o