Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	france_n	king_n	pope_n	2,909	5	6.7648	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15057	An ansvvere to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Iesuit in confidence wherof he offered disputation to the ministers of the Church of England, in the controuersie of faith. Whereunto is added in briefe marginall notes, the summe of the defence of those reasons by Iohn Duræus the Scot, being a priest and a Iesuit, with a reply vnto it. Written first in the Latine tongue by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ and his Church, William Whitakers, Doctor in Diuinitie, and the Kings Professor and publike reader of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Cambridge. And now faithfully translated for the benefit of the vnlearned (at the appointment and desire of some in authoritie) into the English tongue; by Richard Stocke, preacher in London. ...; Ad Rationes decem Edmundi Campiani Jesuitæ responsio. English	Whitaker, William, 1548-1595.; Campion, Edmund, Saint, 1540-1581. Rationes decem. English.; Stock, Richard, 1569?-1626.; Whitaker, William, 1548-1595. Responsionis ad Decem illas rationes.; Durie, John, d. 1587. Confutatio responsionis Gulielmi Whitakeri ad Rationes decem. Selections.	1606 (1606)	STC 25360; ESTC S119870	383,859	364

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and_z page_n 210_o 14_o there_o be_v a_o negative_a ignorance_n which_o be_v not_o sin_n page_n 208._o 209_o 15_o ch●●●t_a ●●oke_n upon_o he_o the_o punishment_n due_a to_o sin_v both_o ●gnorance_n and_o d●ath_n page_n ●●9_n 16_o that_o which_o raise_v such_o fear_n and_o horror_n in_o christ_n be_v not_o the_o fear_n of_o natural_a death_n but_o the_o bitter_a wrath_n of_o god_n against_o mankind_n pag._n 210._o and_o 211_o 17_o what_o the_o hell_n be_v which_o christ_n suffer_v and_o as_o man_n fear_v pag._n 211._o nota_fw-la 18_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n as_o well_o as_o in_o body_n pag._n 211._o 212_o 19_o christ_n do_v not_o go_v into_o limbus_n after_o his_o death_n pag._n 214_o 20_o many_o ancient_a creed_n both_o in_o the_o roman_a and_o east_n church_n have_v not_o this_o article_n of_o christ_n descension_n into_o heil_n pag._n 215._o nota_fw-la 21_o what_o the_o image_n of_o god_n be_v in_o man_n before_o his_o fall_n pag._n 216_o 22_o the_o whole_a image_n of_o god_n be_v not_o raze_v in_o man_n but_o some_o relic_n be_v remain_v natural_a gift_n be_v corrupt_v supernatural_a distinguish_v pag._n 216._o 217_o 23_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o regenerate_a of_o themselves_o be_v corrupt_v that_o which_o they_o have_v from_o god_n be_v contrary_a to_o their_o corruption_n pag._n 218_o 24_o sin_n be_v not_o a_o substance_n nor_o a_o mere_a privation_n but_o a_o accident_n and_o a_o corrupt_a habit_n like_v to_o a_o disease_n pag._n 220_o 25_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n and_o so_o judge_v by_o augustine_n upon_o great_a and_o weighty_a reason_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 26_o sometime_o he_o call_v it_o no_o sin_n in_o opposition_n to_o actual_a sin_n pag._n 221_o nota_fw-la 27_o sin_n be_v not_o equal_a neither_o do_v protestant_n so_o teach_v they_o all_o deserve_v eternal_a death_n though_o some_o more_o some_o less_o pag._n 221._o 222_o 28_o grace_n be_v double_a either_o the_o free_a mercy_n and_o love_n of_o god_n towards_o we_o which_o be_v without_o we_o in_o god_n or_o those_o gift_n which_o flow_v from_o this_o grace_n and_o this_o be_v in_o us._n pag._n 223_o 224_o 29_o christ_n righteousness_n be_v onpute_v to_o we_o as_o our_o sin_n to_o he_o christ_n have_v pay_v our_o debt_n the_o payment_n must_v needs_o be_v we_o by_o imputation_n and_o if_o papist_n allow_v the_o imputation_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o saint_n why_o shall_v they_o so_o much_o scorn_v the_o imputation_n of_o christ_n his_o righteousness_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 30_o charity_n can_v justify_v we_o because_o it_o be_v imperfect_a for_o that_o which_o be_v faulty_a can_v justify_v us._n ibid._n 31_o impute_v and_o infuse_v righteousness_n go_v together_o in_o one_o and_o the_o some_o man_n justification_n and_o sanctification_n be_v distinguish_v in_o the_o word_n pag._n 225._o nota_fw-la 32_o the_o regenerate_v by_o grace_n can_v so_o resist_v their_o temptation_n that_o they_o shall_v never_o sin_v as_o the_o example_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o other_o manifest_a pag._n 226._o 227._o &_o nota_fw-la 33_o our_o righteousness_n be_v a_o real_a relation_n 228._o nota_fw-la 34_o all_o our_o righteousness_n be_v stain_v can_v justify_v we_o and_o faith_n hope_n and_o charity_n be_v imperfect_a can_v do_v it_o pag._n 229_o 35_o christ_n be_v he_o that_o cover_v we_o by_o who_o righteousness_n we_o be_v adorn_v our_o righteousness_n be_v the_o cover_n of_o the_o fault_n pag._n 231_o 36_o faith_n alone_o justifi_v but_o it_o be_v not_o alone_a when_o it_o do_v justify_v pag._n 232_o 37_o the_o reason_n why_o we_o be_v exhort_v to_o perform_v work_n and_o obedience_n as_o also_o that_o we_o be_v command_v to_o apprehend_v christ_n righteousness_n by_o faith_n pag._n 230_o 38_o a_o man_n ought_v and_o may_v be_v certain_a of_o his_o salvation_n by_o the_o certainty_n of_o faith_n pag._n 232._o 233._o nota_fw-la 39_o many_o be_v deceive_v with_o a_o conceit_n of_o faith_n but_o he_o that_o have_v it_o know_v certain_o that_o he_o have_v it_o pag._n 233._o nota_fw-la 40_o from_o god_n predestination_n a_o man_n may_v be_v sure_a of_o his_o perseverance_n so_o the_o father_n teach_v yet_o a_o man_n must_v use_v the_o mean_n pag._n 234._o 235_o nota_fw-la 41_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n be_v but_o two_o in_o the_o church_n the_o novelty_n of_o the_o other_o five_o not_o any_o antiquity_n for_o they_o and_o pregnant_a reason_n against_o they_o pag._n 237._o &_o nota_fw-la 42_o hugo_n de_fw-fr s._n victore_fw-la and_o peter_n lombard_n bring_v seven_o sacrament_n first_o into_o the_o church_n no_o council_n before_o the_o florentine_a do_v ever_o confirm_v they_o ibid._n nota_fw-la 43_o popish_a ceremony_n in_o baptism_n be_v new_a ibid._n nota_fw-la 44_o protestant_n have_v both_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n papist_n have_v no_o bread_n nor_o wine_n nota_fw-la pag._n 239_o 45_o baptism_n be_v both_o a_o channel_n of_o grace_n and_o that_o which_o confirm_v grace_n but_o give_v not_o grace_n by_o the_o word_n wrought_v duraeus_n contrary_a to_o the_o schoolman_n make_v it_o but_o a_o instrument_n pag._n 239._o &_o nota_fw-la 46_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o of_o christ_n be_v both_o one_o in_o ceremony_n in_o doctrine_n and_o in_o grace_n pag._n 240_o 47_o the_o place_n against_o it_o matth._n 3.11_o act._n 19.4.5_o expound_v and_o answer_v ibid._n nota_fw-la 48_o baptism_n be_v not_o so_o simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n that_o the_o want_n of_o it_o will_v condemn_v but_o the_o neglect_n or_o contempt_n of_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n pag._n 241_o 49_o papist_n think_v infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n be_v d●●●●●ed_v a_o barbarous_a and_o a_o se●selesse_a opinion_n and_o against_o all_o reason_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 50_o infant_n may_v have_v faith_n as_o they_o have_v life_n and_o know_v not_o of_o it_o pag._n 242_o 51_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sacrament_n to_o all_o without_o faith_n but_o not_o a_o save_a sacrament_n to_o man_n of_o year_n without_o faith_n yet_o to_o infant_n it_o may_v be_v because_o the_o spirit_n work_v secret_o and_o powerful_o ibid._n nota_fw-la 52_o luther_n earnest_o hold_v that_o baptism_n ought_v to_o be_v give_v to_o child_n and_o think_v they_o have_v faith_n pag._n 243_o 53_o caluin_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n prove_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o by_o tradition_n but_o scripture_n pag._n 244._o nota_fw-la 54_o campian_n have_v no_o cause_n to_o upbraid_v protestant_n with_o corruption_n of_o manner_n so_o long_o as_o rome_n be_v so_o corrupt_a as_o as_o be_v and_o public_a stew_n maintain_v in_o it_o pag._n 245_o 55_o luther_n lascivious_a speech_n object_v by_o campian_n plain_o excuse_v and_o a_o worse_o object_v of_o pope_n clements_n 246.247_o 56_o luther_n make_v three_o cause_n of_o divorce_n and_o the_o papist_n many_o more_o pag._n 246._o &_o nota_fw-la 57_o marriage_n be_v most_o necessary_a for_o man_n who_o can_v live_v chaste_a and_o command_v pag._n 247_o 58_o marriage_n be_v oftentimes_o simple_o better_a than_o virginity_n though_o this_o be_v to_o be_v embrace_v when_o a_o man_n have_v the_o gift_n that_o he_o may_v more_o free_o serve_v the_o lord_n pag._n 248._o &_o nota_fw-la 59_o the_o speech_n of_o lauther_n say_v the_o more_o wicked_a that_o thou_o be_v the_o necr_a be_v thou_o unto_o grace_n defend_v in_o his_o true_a sense_n pag._n 249_o 60_o how_o all_o our_o good_a action_n be_v taint_v with_o sin_n and_o so_o may_v be_v call_v sin_n in_o god_n severe_a judgement_n and_o yet_o good_a and_o to_o be_v do_v pag._n 250._o &_o nota_fw-la 61_o the_o good_a action_n of_o those_o who_o be_v once_o in_o christ_n though_o taint_v be_v acceptable_a unto_o god_n because_o he_o look_v upon_o the_o person_n not_o the_o work_n pag._n 251_o 62_o the_o law_n belong_v to_o christian_n for_o a_o rule_n of_o their_o life_n though_o it_o be_v abrogate_a by_o the_o new_a covenant_n for_o they_o be_v deliver_v not_o from_o the_o obedience_n of_o it_o but_o the_o 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