regular and others must doe neyther all the priests of this Nation nor any one except disobedient to his superior was guilty of this conspiracy or did or doth eyther intend designe or practise such irreligious wickednesse And both holy and happy is that religion to be esteemed among whose professors in this The diâ—course of the laâ—e intended treasâ—n Kingdome so many thousands and in the daies of so manifold disgraces and miseries for that faith so small a company of cheefest Agents or Assistants are charged with that offence Wee haue heard read seene and tasted of many conspiracies and rebellions by protestants and more and greater by them proportion of time and Countries obserued where both Kings whole kingdomes and Common-weales haue beene put in hazard and yet they were dogmaticall men in that profession accounted Prophets Apostles Euangelists and conspired thousands for euery one particular person in this recited and yet their conspiracies were not condemned by their Preachers and Doctors but iustified and applauded not forbidden but commanded by their spirituall maisters and their rebells slaine in such actuall seditions against Princes not reproued but approued and canonized for holy Martyrs When all things be contrary in this case by the protestant disourse it selfe of this tragedy And if proofe can be made of any one of holy priestly order to haue beene an Agent in so vnholy businesse he will be as much abandoned of all good priests and Catholikes as of the protestants themselues for that disloyalty The ignominy and perpetuall reproach wherewith the names of vnhappy Watson and Clarke are stained with all of our religion will be a witnesse in any case of like comparison The seuenth Reason confuted and returned CHAP. VIII HIs seuenth Sillogisme is this Seeing it is in a manner all one to commit a villante and to commend it we may argue that whosoeuer shall iustifie acts of treasons and parricides are not vnguilty of the same crimes To this I grant and adde which is euidently proued before that the cheefest teachers and professors of Protestancy doe not onely iustifie but commend canonize for holy encourage command and reward such proceedings therefore they are not vnguilty of the same crimes And whereas he setteth downe for his lesse Proposition But all Priests doe iustifie such heinous parricides Ergo I haue proued before both by their owne authority continuall experience and at this time that such assertions be most false and slanderous But hee will maintaine his sentence because Bellarmine saith Many Popes haue worthily depriued many Princes of their regall authority The examples be in Leo 3. Fredericke 1. Otho 5. and Childericke King of France To Obiections of which nature I haue often answered before And sincere dealing would haue alleaged the true causes of such processe with those Princes which take away the enuie of this matter proue a flat disparitie in the cases compared and bring eternall shame to many Protestant rebellions and often deposing Princes for meaner quarrells and for no true cause at all The rebellions and attempts be too many to be recited The examples of Princes deposed or depriued of their Kingdomes Countries or territories by Protestants meaner then Popes be more in so short a time then in all the papall gouernment Queene Mary of Scotland the King of Spaine and Enfanta in Flanders the Emperor in diuers parts of Germany and elsewhere in former time the present Emperour in Hungary the Prince of Transyluania the Prince of Geneua Marquesse of Embden Duke of Loraine king of Denmarke king of France king of Sweueland in their territories surprized inuaded taken sold to enemies or kept by rebbells no such thing in the Popes cases neuer making themselues the richer by others losses yeelde testimony in this businesse Next commeth in a gratias agimus for the death of King Henry the third of France by the Author of the booke de iusta abdicat Hen. 3. which was a Catholike But I tell him that also a Catholike Doctor Barkeley a professor at Mussipont hath confuted that booke which also may serue for other citations from thence which I haue answered before He accuseth Cardinall Alane for approuing the rendering of Dauontore vnto the hands of the King of Spaine the true owner By which he condemneth himselfe to be within the compasse of his owne conclusion of rebellion and to iustifie such acts of treason for all the world can witnesse that Towne truly to belong to that King Then not the surrendering of it to the lawfull Prince which hee condemneth but the wrongfull withholding of it which he approueth was treason and rebellion And such as this discouerer is such also the rest of his Clergy protestant brethren in England must bee esteemed euen in this point for in their name the first defence of those disobedient and seditious Netherlanders was vndertaken And so both by publike positions and practises they teach and iustifie actes of treason and rebellion both in themselues and their euangelicall brethren so many yeares in so many disloyall attempts rapines intrusions dis-inheritings deposings piracies murthers and extreamest outrages against their naturall and true Soueraignes and not in one onely act and oration one of Gallobelgicus excessiue reportes made of the death of Henry the third in France Ergo Protestanrs are not vnguilty of these crimes The eight Reason confuted and returned vpon Protestants CHAP. IX THus he frameth his next Argument Those Snakes that doâ— naturally sting so soone as they get warmth may not be harbored in the bosome of the Common-wealth To which proposition I say concedo further adde by such assertion that the protestant Preachers and professors of the reformed Churches may not be harbored in any kingdome or ciuill Country for they are proued before naturally to sting and kill if they can so soone as they haue obtained power to performe it Which I will now also more plentifully demonstrate in this chapter when I haue exempted Catholikes from the accusation in the second proposition which is But all Priests professe rebellions as soone as they can presume of their strength Ergo. His cheefest proofe of this is from Bannes who as he telleth vs teacheth that a King may be deposed where there is euidens noticia criminis euident knowledge of his sinne I answer That such opinion is to be reproued as against not onely Cunerus Nauarre c. but the great Laterane generall Councell to which Bannes and all Catholikes must submit their sentences which also dischargeth vs of this forged slaunder and condemneth the accuser of vniust calumniation But he vrgeth further from the same Author holding the English Catholikes excused quia non se eximunt ex superiorum potestate nec bellum contra eos gerunt quia non suppetunt illis vires ob sequentia pericula which this discouerer thus translateth The English Catholikes who now doe not take Armes against the Protestants are excused because they want sufficient power I answer If this
this Dominion and your most fauoured be therein in the same case with your Suppliants that ancient faith and religion which wee defend cannot be cause to such offence for so all Catholikes in the world that be and euer were were to be censured by their Princes with such measure To professe that religion in a Protestant regiment cannot breede such variance for so all other Catholike subiects in all protestant Countries were in the same case And if one and the same religion can by any not appearing reason be feared by some subiect to suspitions at home which theiâ— politicke wisedome may suppose no forraigne protestant gouernment hath so sufficiently attended and considered we haue in the sincerity of our soules without all aequiuocation or doubtfull sence purged our selues from all jealosie of those opinions pretences or practises which our enemies could discouer worthy to bâ— obiected In answer whereof we haue both made manifest proofe that we doe not otherwise esteeme of the Protestants of this nation then our selues and those of the same faith with vs in all ciuill societies and communications that we giue the sâ—me temporall dutie loyalty and obedience to our Soueraigne honour to Nobles and loue to all that although we differ in religion yet we are so farre from making Protestants odious and vnworthy of mutuall communications in ciuill affaires that we defend their dignities magestâ—acy and rule against men of their owne profession We doe not assigne any soueraigne mere ciuill power ouer Princes as the Protestants in all places haue taught and practised neither any spirituall preeminence in any externe Prelate preiudiciall to Princes right as our opposers doe in Presbiteries and priuate Ministers we haue not denied either election or succession of Protestant Princes as our aduersaries haue done both to Catholikes and Protestants for their owne aduanâ—age our doctâ—ine denieth no obedience to you which was euer giuen to any Christian Prince of England from the first vnto the last King Henry the seuenth by whom and whose eldest Catholike Daughter your Highnesse is inthroned We doe not suggest the discouerers obiected forcible deposition of elected Princes Protestants haue depriued more in this short being of their Gospel by their popular mutenies and priuate authoritie than all Popes in all ages of christian religion with publike consent of Princes and people haue condiscended vnto Protestants haue taken Armes and raised generall rebellions more often against Princes not to be condemned than all Popes haue imposed censures by publike complaint against those which are noted in histories for extraordinary impious If any hath otherwise proceeded no Catholike may defend it wee doe not nor may not by our religion intend designe or practise iustifie or defend the murther of Princes or professe rebellions the discipline of the holy Church and generall Councells rules in our religion denie it for lawfull what priuileges protestancy claimeth what it hath taught and practised in that point Hungary Transiluania Germanie Bohemia Denmarke Heluetia Flanders Sweueland France Emâ—en your Maiesties kingdomes and your selfe haue beene witnesses for many yeares We doe not allow in opinion or may practise in act aequiuocation concealed double or secret sence in affaires of Common-weale and iuridicall interrogatories and profession of religion They be Protestants which defend and practise it in such causes not iustifiable in true diuinitie Our Priests neither vnder that reduplicatiue formalitie as Priests nor otherwise maintaine by our religion any position or pactise seditions or not obedient if any particular men for want of learning haue seemed to speake or thinke or for want of grace dealt or practised in other sence no religion made all men Saints religion did not teach it and Catholikes generally condemne it Therefore our confidence cannot but continue that the Royall promises of your highest Authority of Lenitie of no bloud for Religion shall not be recalled The demerritt of a fewe is no generall impediment The Scriptures instruct vs anima quae peccauerit ipsa moriatur one man must not be are the burthen of others sinnes All Schooles agree that no man can condignelie meritte first grace to any other though but one then the transgression of one or fewe cannot be demeritte for innocents to be afflicted great is the difference of the members in a naturall and ciuill body in this cause though the first doe suffer in some sence together by connexion in nature yet in the second the case and reason is different Remember most worthy Prince not only how grieuous but how generall the penalties against your Catholiques be enacted And yet new threatnings be made that new and more straunge as nec inter gentes shall be ordained The bodies honours reputations and riches of husbands to be punished for their wiues religion and soules to which they are neither husbands nor superiors Children to be taken from Parents Parents to be depriued of theiâ— education which Catholike Princes doe not and in conscience cannot offer to the Iewes themselues though in some opinion the slaues of Christians Children seruants kinsmen and neighbors are to be made hired Espialls to betray their parents masters kinred friends in things as vnlawfull which the whole Catholique world honoureth for holy and they venture their soules and fempitermtie that they be such commendable Artes Functions of phisicke c. which haue not connexion with Religion are to be put to silence in Catholikes The seuere penaltie for not monethlie professing the Protestant faith in Churches when in all diuinitie the precept of Profession of true and vndoubted faith in se and ex se bindeth but seldome is to be increased And others of such condition too many here to be mentioned and too grieuouâ— and vnnaturall we hope in your Princelie opinion to be concluded by a Kings consent Therefore vnder sauour for all I instance in one most heauie and generall in those of our deceased Queene All Priests though neuer so dutifull or obedient be censured for Traitors equally with the greatest offendor in sinne of Treason when many guiltlesse soules of that sacred order would not for thousands of worlds once consent to any such or a farre inferior offence A thing most straunge and beyond all example that men in respect only of their calling and function and that function so reuerenced by all our forefathers should without further cause be condemned as guilty of so a detested crime We defend holy priesthood to be a sacrament which being ordained by God cannot be changed by man Pope Prelate or humane power but remaineth in al things substance and doctrine the same which in those dayes when it was so honorably esteemed of all your christian progenitors when our mother Church kept her first integrity by your Highnesse iudgement as we are ready to make defence And if your Maiesty should decree the like law against any degree or profesâ—ion of your other subiects or the king of France or other Prince in other estate of men should enact by
Peâ—â—tâ—on and the Vniuersiâ—ieâ— Protestâ—nts in their Answere to his Mâ—iestieâ—â—eâ—suâ—e to be chaunged or continued and in essentiall pointâ— and neâ—â—ssarie â—â—â—â—â—ation as the Puâ—â—tanes haue oft written wiâ—â— the condâ—â—â—e them to haue â—â— faith â—t all true faith cannot be châ—â—nged corrected then to be obstâ—nately addicted â—o their profesâ—ion Thirdly many defend that although a man desireth to be ignorant of the trâ—th and so professeth heresy in igâ—â—rance though he sinnâ—â—h gâ—ieâ—ouslâ— in such case yet he is not to be accounted an Hereticke Fourthly Caâ—uâ— hoâ—dâ—th that a man douâ—â—â—â—â— in his fâ—â—â—h 〈◊〉 l. 1â— de loc â— 9. â—â— 4. common and gâ—â—â—râ—ll tâ—iâ—g with â—nglish â—râ—tâ—stâ—nts is not preperlâ— an Heretâ—â—ke Fiftly all Hereâ—iâ—kes as inteâ—nall be not sâ—biect to Censâ—â—â— and Excoâ—mâ—nâ—caâ—â—on Sixtly before â—â—comâ—â—nâ—câ—tiâ—n no commâ—niâ—aâ—ion is fâ—rbiden 〈…〉 with any 〈…〉 obiâ—cteâ—h from â—aâ—â—â—mitanus that where the 〈◊〉 is notoâ—â—on sâ—ch as â—his 〈◊〉 vs. Heresie 1. 〈…〉 not any declâ—ratâ—on of â—â—â— sâ—ntence of Excommuniâ—â—â—ion 〈…〉 absolâ—tely agâ—inst tâ—e greâ—test 〈…〉 general 〈…〉 by wâ—ose decâ—â—e tâ—e 〈◊〉 must be both so censuâ—â—d â—nd 〈…〉 which consenteth Cunerns Nauarre and others Sixtly also after such proceedings except specially excepted Concil Const Suares de Censur gloss c. Cum desideras de sent excommun the case of wife children seruants c. bringeth exemption Seauenthly no Protestant or hereticke or Archehereticke not excommunicate by name as none in England is lyeth subiect to any penalty pretended Obiect But it will be obiected from the second Reason that Catholikes holde the Pope head of the Church to haue a ciuill power also ouer Kings and circa omnia temporalia therfore he may both depose Princes and commaund subiectes to arme against them once excommunicate Resp First I aunswere concerning Priests most maligned in this matter that the canon Lawe itselfe is to the contrary where be these words De Episcopis vero vel quibuslibet Clericis quod nec sua Decret 2 paâ—â— caus 23. q. 8. De episcopis c. authoritate nec authoritate Romani pontificâ— arma accipere valeant facile probatur Neyther Bishops nor any Clerks may take armes either by their owne authority or the authority of the Pope of Rome And reasons be added there authorized by Gregory 13. alleadged here against vs in this Treatise Therefore all of that order be absolutely freed from that ielousie and may answer with Ambros orat contra Auxent S. Ambrose against Auxentius Quid ergo turbamini volens nunquam ius deseram coactus re pugnare non noui potero dolere poero flere potero gemere aduersus arma milites Gothos quoque lacrimae meae mea armasunt talia enim sunt manimenta Sacerâ—otis aliter nec debeo nec possum resistere Therefore why are you troubled willingly I neuer will forsake right compelled I know not to resist I may be sorie I may weepe I may groane against Armes souldâ—ers and the Gothes also my teares are my armour for such are the defence of Priests otherwise I neyther ought nor can resist Secondly I aunswere if any man holde that opinion of such a power ouer Princes in Popes yet they will plead it is more tollerable to defend such authority in one supreame Pastor and spirituall gouernor in the Church whereof Princes be sheepe and not sheepeheardes as the late wise Lord Treasurer acknowledged of Queene Elizabeth that shee was Ouis and not Pastor then to committe the censuring of Princes cases to such seditious iudges and superiors as Protestant both publique positions and practises assigne by which not only euery Wickliffe Luther Caluine Cranmer Knoxe and such supreame men but the artizans and basest people in euery Eldershippe may sitte in iudgement vpon their Soueraigne Cite Excomunicate and Depose him euen for ordinarie offences as themselues expound conuenient for their owne aduantage as I will alleadge from their publique opinions hereafter Obiection And if this man will instance that the Author of the booke De iusta abdicat Henric. 3. teacheth and excomuni consensu that it is lawfull for a priuate man to kill a Tyrant Answer I answere it is more then disobedience for any subiect in England to make such comparison with his mercifull Prince And yet whatsoeuer that priuate Author writeth or this Disputer citeth from him that opinion is not the common consent but against not only the common Alphons Castr contr Haeres v. tyrannus Petrus Gregorius in fine 2. to de Republ. Cuneâ—us â—e offic priecip christian Hentic quodl 6. q. 23. Turrecâ— l. 2. c. 113. Couoâ— Victor de potest eccl concil 1. q. â— Palat. 4 D. 25. Turrect l. 1. c. 87. consent of Catholike authors Alphonsus de Castro Petrus Gregorius Cunerus and others but against the generall councell of Constance it selfe to which all Catholikes must conform them selues Secondlie I answere for all Catholickes in generall to the maine Obiection that Henricus Victor Iohannes de Turrecr Couoruuius and the common opinion of Schooles doe teach that there is no such mere Temporall and Regall power in Popes ouer Princes and ciuill affaires but a Supreame spirituall as that is which they clayme in Temporalls in ordine ad Spiritualia and is not to vse this Disputers words Aciuill power Soueraigne ouer Kings directly but only a spirituall preeminence the subiect obiect office and end thereof being such for the spirituall good and behoofe of the church of Christ committed to his Vicar and chiefe Delegate here on earth by commission of feeding gouerning ruling binding loosing shutting opening and the like in holy Scripture and authoritatiuely citeing summoning admonishing and censuring both sheepe and other sheepeheards of our Sauiours flocke Yet thirdly I answere that the defendors of this sentence doe farther teach that this iurisdiction and power against sheepe or inferior sheepeheards is not to be put in practise but in cases of obstinacie contempt and incorrigibilitie in the offendor and being onely for the profite and vtilitie of the Spouse of Christ his mysticall body it may not be exercised where greater losse domage and hazard then good and profite is to ensue from thence The cause must be iust the suggestion not vntrue the meanes not turbulent tending to destruction Fourthly the maintainers of this doctrine doe not vrge greater indignitie or defend any sentence more offensiue in equallingement to any prelate sheepe or sheepheard then to the chiefest sheepeheaâ—d vnder Christ the Pope himâ—eâ—fe for they all with one consent affirme that in case of heresiâ— now in question hee 〈◊〉 v. paâ— 2. §. 4. palud ib. eiâ—t Turrecr li. 2 sum c. â—0â— l 4 c. 18. Aug. de Anâ—on â—astâ— l. de iust haeret â—â—nit â—ot 4 dâ—â—t 12 q. â— â—â—tic 2. Can. l. 4 de loc c. vlt. Coâ—dub l b. quaestionâ—r q. 11. is eyther actually and really deposed or to be deposed The Canonists doe holde he is ipso facto deposed if hee fall into herâ—sie
with whome Io de Turrecrem Augustinâ—s de Ancona Castro and other Diuines consent which Câ—nsure Wickclâ—ffe and hiâ— Protestant succâ—ssors did impâ—â—e vppon Pâ—incâ—s and temporall Magistrates eyther for hâ—râ—siâ— or any other â—rime Others as Sâ—â—us â—anus and Cordubensiâ— affirâ—e in that 〈…〉 â—o be deposâ—d And such â—â— the discipline of the Chuâ—ch of God that these men and all Cathoâ—ike â—choâ—les euen in Rome it selfe as confidâ—ntâ—y dispâ—t thâ—sâ— qâ—estions for whâ—â—â—aâ—se hâ—w and when and by Panormitaâ— sup caâ— Significaâ—â—i Canonist in c. Si Pâ—â—â— whom Popes may be dâ—posed aâ— they doâ— eithâ—r speake or write of the greatest pâ—iuiâ—edges of thâ—t Apostolike See And Panormitanus a Canonist with others iâ— so confident in this businesse that they teach a Pope may be dâ—posed for any sinne that is scandalous to the Châ—â—ch of Christ if he be incâ—â—rigible Fiftly the present Professorâ— which handle this qâ—â—stion betweene Popes aâ—d Pâ—inces doe not holde any sinâ—ulâ—r opinion tending to the indignitie or dommage of any Prâ—testant Regent more than to all othâ—rs in equâ—ll termes bâ—â— what is now by them mainâ—ained was publike dâ—ctrine befoâ—e Protestancie had either prâ—nce or peâ—ple to eâ—brace â—t and at tâ—iâ— tiâ—e do iustifie â—he like senâ—â—nce câ—ncerning all Catholiâ—e Rulers in â—qâ—all ballaunce of compâ—â—ison and â—hat openly wâ—thout â—â—proofe in thâ—ir owne domâ—â—â—ons Sixtly to giue contentment to all that will not be contentious or â—ffâ—ct to be singular in persecâ—â—ing or domagâ—ng â—he Church of God Thâ—â—e Authors doe not sâ—y that â—he 〈◊〉 power â—â— simpâ—y and â—â—â—olutely subiect to the Papall and Spâ—râ—tuall auâ—horiâ—ie but in case of iniuries offered or great impâ—diment of the spiritual good more preeminent then the tâ—mporall And in such câ—uses euen in temporall affaires and among such powers and Princes iniuries offered and iust right denied or hindered giueth a prerogatiue to equalles iure belli among Kings and ciuill Regents to recouer their owne redeeme their wrong â—equite their iniuries where the offendor denieth to make requitall Therefore seeing this Discouerer cannot finde anie such ciuil power soueraigne ouer Kinges challenged by Popes and against which hee so much inueigheth nor any other more peculiarly intended against Protestant Princes then all others in like proceedings let him draw his weapon against those by whome he is assaulted in this kind First against the Canonists and the Legists euen in England and of the Arches except they will dissent from the more receaued opinion of like profâ—ssors secondly against himselfe all Protestâ—nt write s. Against the first bicause which is his case in question they defend that the empror is lord of all the world insomâ—ch that Bartholus the great Legâ—sâ— affirmes Baâ—thol in extraâ—ag ad rep imen glosse per venerab Qui filii c. that peraduenture it is hâ—resie to teâ—ch the contrary 〈…〉 saith he it is against the scripture Exist edâ—ctum à Caesare vâ— dâ—â—â—râ—beretur orâ—is where the whole woâ—ld and Princes thereof were at his designement And which the Protestants alleadge for temporâ—ll Princes supremacie omnis anima potestatibus sublimiorjbus subdita sit therefore as he reasoneth all Princes be subiect to him as the highest power And in this case of Armes and death which this man so often obiecteth the cause is more daungerous in respect that in the whole papall and canon law of the Popes there is no penaltie of death against any hereticke or excommunicate neyther is such punnishement to bee inflicted by any spirituall Iudge or executioner But that kinde of reuenge or justice is only Codic haeret leg Adrian et Codâ—c de Iudaeis leg Quicunque prouided by the emperiall and ciuill Constitutions and by temporall Authority and brachâ—um scecuiare to be put in practise Lastly lett him battaile against himselfe and his Protestant Protestants Religion of all others is the greatest eâ—nemy to Princes and Catholique worship the most fauourable brethren which of all people in the woâ—lde that euer were or be are the most guilty in these proceedings as I will at large demonstrate hereafter and Catholikes of all most innocent For seeing all professors of Religion Israelites Pâ—gans Catholikes Protestants and all others euer prescribed some meanes and manner to keepe both Rulers and the ruled in order of all people to whom that authority was attributed by any The Popes of Rome proportion of time and place cousidered haue beene the actors of the fewest translations of titles in Princes Not aboue foure or fiue examples can be giuen in the whole christian worlde in aboue 1500 yeares and not many excommunications from the first of â—hillipâ—e the first Christian Emperour as some suppose by the Eusch histor Pope of Rome or of Archadâ—â—s by Pope Innoc nâ—â—us the first within 400 yeares after Christ when the Prophettes and Priests of Niceâ—hor hâ—st in Arcâ—ad Iurie deposed more in one Kingdome and the excesse of the Paans is not to be recited And the Protestants themselues since their originall haue deposed as many or â—ore thâ—n all the Popes in to many yeares and that onelie for Religion when for that quaâ—râ—ll not one Prince in the Popedome hath lost his Diademe nor any without common consent of the Christian worlde For Protestants I instance in the Prince of Geneua deposed and in the King of Spaine and the present Arche-duke in the Lowe Countries expelled from their Right the Kinge of Polonia in Sweueland at this present in litle better estate the Queene Regent in Scotland so made a subiect and his Maiesties mother deposed the Emperour denied his allowance of tribute for the Turkishe warres his Townes taken and â—ept against him the Duke of Loraine and others in the like predicament And the violent attempts which they haue vndertaken by rebellion agâ—inst their Princes for this quarrell of Religion haue beene more then all excommunications of Princes by Popes for any respect whatâ—oeâ—er the particulars will appeare in their proper place And whence can all these impious practises proceed with so generâ—ll apâ—lâ—â—â—e but from their most impious and rebellious publiquâ— position you haue heard before that the proces of Popes is such in this busines that no Prince except more wicked thâ—n any now liuing or as vnfoâ—tunate as some foure or fiue in all the time of Christianâ—ty in the worlde neede stand in daunger Contrariewise by Protestant religion no sinner or no King Const Concil in aâ—â— Wickcl Luâ—â—â—â— to 6. pag. 〈…〉 Luth. Calâ—in in Dan. Suingl lib. 4. Philipp Nichol. fundâ—m Caluin Sect c. Luther denieth all obedience to Princes differing from him in Religion calling them Pilates Tyrants Herods Iudas and that his Protestants handes must be imbrued with bloud in such cases Caluin telleth that ipso facto they are bereaued If no permission of Swinglius doctrine no Prince with him and all bee Martirs that be slaine in rebellion for that quarrell The english Protestant Confer 14. 1604 pag. 47. Luther lib. capt Babyl Notes