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A14399 Concerning the excommunication of the Venetians a discourse against Cæsar Baronius Cardinall of the Church of Rome In which the true nature and vse of excommunication is briefly and cleerly demonstrated, both by testimonies of Holy Scripture, and from the old records of Christs Church. Written in Latine by Nicolas Vignier, and translated into English after the copie printed at Samur 1606. Whereunto is added the Bull of Pope Paulus the Fift, against the Duke, Senate and Commonwealth of Venice: with the protestation of the sayd Duke and Senate. As also an apologie of Frier Paul of the order of Serui in Venice.; De Venetorum excommunicatione, adversus Caesarem Baronium. English Vignier, Nicolas.; Sarpi, Paolo, 1552-1623. Apologia per le oppositioni fatte dall'illustrissimo & reverendissimo signor cardinale Bellarminio alli trattati, et risolutioni di Gio. Gersone. English.; Baronio, Cesare, 1538-1607. Duo vota. English.; Catholic Church. Pope (1605-1621 : Paul V); Venice (Republic : to 1797). Doge (1606-1612 : Donato) 1607 (1607) STC 24719; ESTC S120778 41,133 78

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doe with his owne mother sister gossip or kinswoman gross 5. Absolution for him that hath killed his father mother sister brother or other of his kin if he be a lay man for were any of them a Clergy man the murtherer must be tied to visit in person the Apostolick sea gross 6. or 7. at most Absolution for a woman which hath taken downe any potion whereby to destroy the Infant conceiued within her gross 5. Not to runne vpon particulars no sinne so enormous but with mony may be wiped out without mony no remission For as the old rhythme hath it The Court of Rome but for the fleece Seekes not the sheepe at all Opening the doore to all that giue But th● emptie stand and call Or if you had rather heare the Taxing of the Apostolique Chancery thus saith that booke Note you diligently that such graces and indulgences be neuer granted vnto poore men who because they are not cannot be comforted These are not those times you shall know wherein it was easier for a Camell to passe thorow the eie of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdome of Heauen But these are golden daies indeed in which Heauen is purchased by gold and shut against the poore man because he hath no gold to buy it To the purpose Papall Excommunication is commonly grounded vpon these or such like causes Priuate Hatred The Popes Credulitie or else Ambition Paschall the Second Pope of that name when Henrie the Fift Emperour Elect came as the manner was to Rome to receiue the Imperiall Crowne of the Popes hand raised such hurlies against his Prince as put him to stand vpon the guard of his life and brought him to the hazard of his State When matters were taken vp and pacified and the Emperour and Pope agreed together the Pope gaue his word not to assay to doe ought which any way might preiudice the Imperiall Maiestie secondly to returne backe againe the right which they had in bestowing of Bishopricks For farther confirmation of which protestation when hee receiued the Sacrament with the Emperor hee is said to haue vsed this execration Let him so be diuided from the Kingdome of Christ that shall go about to break this agreement as this part of that life-giuing body is diuided And yet for all this scarse had the Emperor gone out at the City gates when as the faithlesse and treacherous Pope reuersed whatsoeuer hee did before cast Excommunication out against the Emperour and set new worke in hand against him A●bas Vrsperg in P●●lippo Innocent the 111. dealt as sluttishly with the Emperor Philip denouncing him Excommunicate for no cause else but for pretence of his Predecessors cruelty And when the newes was brought him of the mans election to the Empire hee brake out into these franticke and bedlome speeches Either shall the Pope take Crowne and Kingdome from Philip or Philip from the Pope his Apostolicall honor It is impossible to summe vp into a breuiarie the froward and tyrannicall Popish designs and practise against Emperours and Kings Princes and Magistrates only two examples shall be all I will touch which both euince his great abuse of Excommunication and touch the Venetians more neere than any else discouering the long since practised tyranny of the Popes against them At Auinion where it was for 70. yeeres and more Pope Clement the fift who kept his Court * in France vnderstanding the Venetians had taken in Ferrara presently vpon the newes became stark mad and without delay thundred out his Excommunication against them giuing leaue vnto any man by faire meanes or soule to kill as many as hee could Pabel Lib. 7. Decad. 9. beeing now iudged enemies of the Romane church and cast forth from the communion of the faithfull Supplementum Chronichorum giuing libertie vnto all Christians whosoeuer to arrest the Venetians wheresoeuer they met them to confiscate their goods sell their bodies as slaues in the markets which turned so farre vnto their losse and detriment that the State could not trade nor negotiate with any strangers at all till at length Francis Dandalo being sent vnto France from the Senate vnto the Pope and with much adoe admitted vnto his presence putting an iron chaine vpon his necke lay vnder his table as a suppliant so long till he got this vngentle Clement to yeeld to let fall his moodinesse and restore the Venetians to their former state For which hee was after that called the Dogge because as a dogge he lay chained vnder the Popes dining table The second example is of Pope Sixtus the Fourth who proclaimed warres against the King of Naples for helping Hercules of Este Duke of Ferrara against the Venetians whom the Pope did abet in that quarrell with his spiritual and temporall forces Platina in vita Sixti 4. But after their agreement with King Ferdinand the same man with the power of Appulia set vpon the same Venetians whom he before had fauoured and not content stirred vp against them the Princes of Italie as many as hee could Supplementum Chronicorum sentenced them with his Spirituall curse depriued them of all their whatsoeuer Dominions to the vtmost extent of his power Neither in his life time could they obtaine to be released hauing not any cause or pretext for his doings more than that hee feared their growing too great would put himselfe and other Italian Princes to haue cause to looke neere vnto themselues This was in his time a most holy Father Petro à Ruuiere Ioan Textor Wessel Gron de Indulgent whose base borne sonne a worthie Impe of such a Sire Peter Cardinall Priest of Rome Patriarch of Constantinople Legat a Latere for the Pope prodigally stantinople Legat a Latere for the Pope prodigally lauished in two yeeres space 300000. duckats in luxurie and vaine expenses who also together with the Cardinall Saint Lucy interceded with his Father for themselues and their families to haue male stewes permitted them the three hottest moneths of the yeere and had a grant from that most holy Father Sixtus with this clause Be it vnto you as you desire But it will be replied It is a new world now and other manners are now in vse And this new world begun and hallowed with their Iubilies not at Rome alone but euerie Hamlet and Village vnder Romane obeisance hath brought vs new causes of Excommunication But pardon mee The grounds vpon which the Venetians bee excommunicate are not any whit better than those wee haue rehearsed For neither is I trow the State of the Romish religion in hazard there whereto the Venetians are most zealously inclined nor yet that obedience due as they call it to the Apostolique Sea from which they professe and protest vnto the world they detract not any thing which is theirs by diuine right Neither is it any question of manners after which though neuer so corruptly depraued the Pope makes no inquisition at al. But
the Prince of the Apostles and of our Chancery Apostolike and published in Campo de Flore as it hath beene accustomed haue as great force against the foresaid Duke and Senate and all other and you all in generall and euery one respectiuely as if they had beene personally addressed intimated and presented to euery one of them and you Giuen at Rome at S. Peters Sous l'aneau du pescheur the seuenteenth of April 1606. and the first yeare of our Popedome M. Vestrius Barbianus THE PROTESTATION OF the Duke and Senat of Venice against the Bull of Pope PAVL the Fift LEONARD DONAT by the grace of God Duke of Venice to the most Honourable Patriarches Archbishops Bishops Abbats Priors Rectors of parish Churches and other Prelates Ecclesiasticall throughout our Common wealth and Seigniory of Venice Salutations We are giuen to vnderstand that by commandement of our most holy Father Paul the Fift a certaine Briefe hath beene thundred and published at Rome the 17. of Aprill last past against our person the Senat and Seigniory and sent to you to bee published in our townes and territories of our obedience and subiection And because wee who are bound to preserue the tranquillity and peace of the State and gouernment to the which we are ordeined and appointed by God and to maintaine the authority of our Common wealth which besides the Maiestie Diuine acknowledgeth no Superiour in matters Temporall we protest by these presents before God and the whole world that wee haue omitted nothing of that which belonged to vs to make knowen to his holinesse the iustice and equitie of our lawes as well by our Ambassador ordinary at Rome and by letters by the which wee haue sufficiently answered to the former Briefes to vs directed as also by another Ambassadour extraordinarie sent by vs of purpose for this businesse But hauing vnderstood that his holinesse hath from time to time set light by our remonstrances without giuing audience vnto our most iust reasons hath decreed this briefe against all right against that which holy Scripture the doctrine of the holy Fathers sacred Canons do teach in preiudice of that power secular which God hath giuen into our hands and of the libertie of our common-wealth to the end to molest and trouble not without great scandall the life the goods and honors which our faithfull subiects do peaceably and quietly enioy vnder our authoritie we make no doubt to esteeme the said Briefe as vnlawfull and in it selfe void as well in fact and deed as in law and therfore haue thought it necessarie to take those remedies which our predecessors and other Princes of Christendome haue vsed against the Popes when they haue exceeded their power assuring our selues that you and other our faithfull subiects and all the world will so iudge thereof And as hitherto you haue diligently looked to the cure of the soules of our subiects and carefully trauelled to keepe the seruice of God in his integritie that heereafter you will continue in the same dutie of true and good pastors considering that our intention is to persist in the holie Catholique and Apostolique faith and euermore to continue in the reuerence accustomed towards the holy Church of Rome so we command you that you cause to be affixed these presents in the most open places of this town and others of our obedience to the end they may come to the knowledge of all our subiects and of all those that haue heard of the foresaid briefe so that it may come to the eares of our holy Father whose vnderstanding we desire God by his holy Spirit so to illighten that he may see the nullitie of all that he hath done against vs and that hauing vnderstood the iustice and equitie of our cause he giue vs cause to continue in the obseruance and respect which our predecessors and all the common-wealth haue hitherto rendred to the Sea Apostolique whereto they haue alwaies shewed themselues most affectionate Giuen in our Pallace the 16. of May Indiction the fourth the yeere of our Lord 1606. FATHER PAVLS Apologie for his not appearing at Rome being called thither by citation To the right Honourable Lords and most reuerend Fathers Pinello Ascalano S. Cecilie de Ciury Blanchetto Arigonio Bellarmino Sappata de Bubalis Monopolitano Cardinals of the most holy Church of Rome named Inquisitors Generall Most Noble and Reuerend Lords I Frier Paul a Venetian of the order of Seruants appeare before you by these letters and most humbly and submissiuely intreat that ye would reuoking those things that are inacted against mee in your congregations daine to accept and admit vnto due examination those my exceptions against them For about the twentieth day of September it was decreed in your congregation that a certaine booke composed by me in Italian thus intituled Considerations vpon the censure of the holinesse of Pope Paul the Fift against the renowmed Common wealth of Venice should not bee diuulged abroad or read or yet retained by any one which had it Neither also one other booke intituled An Apology for the oppositions of the renowmed and reuerend Lord Cardinall Bellarmine to the treatises and resolutions of Iohn Gerson touching the validity of excommunication Neither yet one other booke composed by me with sixe other bearing this inscription A tractate of the interdict of the holinesse of Pope Paul the Fift with some other bookes of the same Argument composed by others with all other which should afterward be published of that argument for that many things were found in them very rashly deliuered calumnious scandalous seditious scismaticall erroneous and hereticall respectiuely In the next place the thirtieth day of the moneth of October a Citation was decreed against me with Commandement that it should bee hanged in the Court at Rome with the penalty of Excommunication the sentence being denounced against me as also of perpetuall infamie and depriuation from all and singular offices and dignities and other penalties inflicted by the Canoicall constitutions and to be imposed at your pleasure that I should within the space of twentie and foure dayes appeare in mine owne person and not by a proctor to giue an account of my faith and to purge my selfe from all crimes obiected against me for that it was obiected by and vnder the lawfull oath of men of credit and manifest by other proofes that there was no safe accesse to be made vnto me as it is reported to be conteined more fully and more at large in the foresaid decrees and edicts imprinted to which c. Truely most Reuerend Lordes I am readie according to the commandement of Saint Peter to render an account of that faith and hope whereby I liue to euerie one which demandeth it and doe constantly affirm that a publique examination of our faith is most profitable and necessarie in the Church to the intent that we may not be carried about with euerie wind of doctrine and that we may not be deceiued at vnawarres