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A73348 [The principal points which are at this daye in controuersie, concerning the holly supper and of the masse.] Viret, Pierre, 1511-1571.; Shoute, J. 1579 (1579) STC 24782; ESTC S125565 86,955 173

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of_o god_n from_o his_o people_n which_o be_v so_o holy_a &_o sacred_a a_o ●hing_n wherefore_o they_o may_v be_v well_o place_v among_o ●he_n false_a prophet_n who_o the_o lord_n accuse_v by_o ●eremie_n to_o have_v steal_v his_o word_n from_o his_o people_n 23._o they_o be_v in_o like_a fort_n very_o open_a rebel_n to_o jesus_n christ_n ●●is_fw-la for_o see_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o represent_v his_o person_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o si●per_n and_o of_o all_o sacrament_n it_o must_v in_o any_o wise_a b●_z that_o they_o do_v that_o which_o he_o command_v they_o t●_n do_v and_o that_o they_o follow_v his_o example_n for_o if_o the_o do_v otherwise_o and_o contrary_v thereunto_o they_o ma●_z not_o be_v call_v the_o minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n bu●_n only_o by_o a_o wrong_a title_n now_o it_o be_v certain_a tha●_z he_o command_v they_o to_o do_v in_o his_o remembrance_n the_o very_a same_o which_o he_o then_o do_v and_o what_o be_v 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o then_o do_v note_v he_o as_o minister_v address_v hi●_z word_n to_o his_o disciple_n to_o who_o he_o administer_v his_o supper_n and_o forthwith_o distribute_v unto_o then_o the_o sign_n thereof_o which_o he_o command_v the●_z to_o take_v wherefore_o if_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o the_o like_a in_o their_o mass_n &_o in_o their_o supper_n wherein_o they_o sa●_n they_o do_v represent_v as_o minister_n the_o person_n of_o i●sus_n christ_n they_o do_v mock_v both_o jesus_n christ_n an●_z his_o poor_a people_n now_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d mass_n they_o do_v neither_o the_o one_o ne_o yet_o the_o other_o from_o whence_o it_o follow_v very_o well_o that_o th●_z same_o can_v not_o be_v the_o supper_n of_o jesus_n christ_n fo●_n so_o much_o as_o they_o do_v so_o great_a a_o wrong_n therein_o a●_z well_o to_o he_o as_o to_o all_o christian_a people_n for_o in_o h●●ding_v and_o steal_v the_o word_n which_o ought_v to_o b●_z declare_v unto_o they_o and_o in_o not_o distribute_v at_o a●_z that_o which_o be_v command_v they_o to_o distribute_v unto_o they_o they_o do_v dishonour_n jesus_n christ_n in_o disobey_v he_o &_o also_o do_v great_a wrong_n to_o his_o people_n in_o not_o administer_a unto_o they_o that_o which_o ●hey_n ought_v to_o administer_v unto_o they_o p●●ple_n and_o as_o they_o ●aile_v in_o this_o behalf_n even_o so_o the_o people_n do_v not_o ●heir_a duty_n if_o they_o will_v not_o receive_v the_o word_n nor_o ●he_n sign_n when_o they_o be_v due_o and_o sincere_o administer_v unto_o they_o for_o therein_o they_o show_v ●hem_fw-mi self_n rebel_n against_o god._n note_n and_o if_o neither_o ●he_n one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v present_v and_o administer_v unto_o they_o and_o that_o they_o care_v not_o at_o all_o but_o ●re_n content_v to_o be_v deprive_v either_o in_o part_n or_o in_o ●ll_a they_o yield_v themselves_o then_o without_o excuse_n inasmuch_o as_o they_o declare_v thereby_o that_o they_o do_v ●ot_n great_o care_n for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n nor_o for_o his_o valuation_n and_o chief_o when_o they_o may_v have_v the_o ●●eane_a to_o have_v the_o right_a and_o full_a administration_n ●f_o the_o sacrament_n chapter_n xuj_o of_o the_o difference_n and_o distinction_n that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n do_v make_v in_o thapplication_n of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n of_o the_o sacrament_n aswell_o concern_v the_o sign_n of_o they_o as_o the_o person_n which_o be_v capable_a thereof_o and_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o their_o transubstantiation_n which_o they_o ground_n upon_o the_o same_o ●eing_v they_o that_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o judge_v how_o foolish_a and_o full_a of_o filthy_a ignorance_n the_o distinction_n and_o the_o difference_n that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n do_v make_v between_o baptism_n and_o the_o su●per_n and_o their_o other_o sacrament_n be_v touch_v t●_n apply_v of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o sign_n 〈◊〉_d they_o for_o they_o say_v that_o in_o baptism_n the_o sacramental_a word_n be_v address_v to_o the_o person_n which_o they_o baptize_v note_v and_o not_o at_o all_o to_o the_o matt●●_n of_o baptism_n to_o wit_n to_o the_o water_n which_o be_v th●_z sign_n thereof_o but_o it_o be_v contrary_a in_o the_o suppe●_n forsomuch_o as_o the_o sacramental_a word_n be_v address_v to_o the_o matter_n thereof_o to_o wit_n to_o the_o brea●●_n and_o to_o the_o wine_n which_o be_v the_o sign_n and_o n●_z at_o all_o to_o the_o person_n from_o whence_o they_o do_v coclude_v the_o conversion_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o of_o th●_z wine_n into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n chri●●_n according_a to_o their_o doctrine_n of_o transsubstanci●tion_n by_o mean_v whereof_o they_o do_v affirm_v tha●_z for_o that_o cause_n the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n consecrate_v after_o their_o manner_n be_v no_o more_o bread_n an●_z wine_n but_o be_v the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o i●sus_n christ_n and_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o th●_z altar_n and_o of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n yea_o eve●●_a out_o of_o the_o action_n and_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n th●_z which_o thing_n they_o dare_v not_o affirm_v of_o the_o w●ter_n of_o the_o baptism_n well_o for_o albeit_o that_o they_o hau●_n bless_v and_o consecrate_v it_o after_o their_o manner_n an●_z that_o they_o do_v reserve_v it_o in_o their_o font_n for_o th●_z use_v of_o baptism_n and_o that_o they_o do_v pronounce_v th●_z sacramental_a word_n thereof_o in_o administration_n yet_o for_o all_o that_o they_o hold_v it_o neither_o for_o sacrament_n nor_o for_o sign_n of_o baptism_n but_o in_o the_o very_a action_n and_o use_n thereof_o to_o wit_n when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o person_n that_o man_n do_v baptize_v demand_v but_o if_o they_o grant_v we_o this_o point_n concern_v baptism_n why_o make_v they_o so_o great_a difficulty_n to_o grant_v we_o the_o same_o concern_v the_o supper_n for_o have_v they_o more_o express_a commandment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n to_o administer_v the_o water_n in_o baptism_n than_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n in_o the_o supper_n which_o be_v the_o sign_n i_o say_v yet_o further_o that_o it_o be_v so_o that_o they_o have_v a_o more_o express_a commandment_n to_o distribute_v the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n of_o the_o supper_n well_o then_o to_o administer_v the_o water_n of_o the_o baptism_n for_o where_o be_v it_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o find_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v say_v so_o express_o of_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n take_v you_o baptize_v you_o and_o be_v you_o baptize_v as_o he_o have_v plain_o speak_v of_o the_o bread_n &_o of_o the_o wine_n of_o the_o supper_n take_v you_o eat_v you_o take_v you_o drink_v you_o yea_o every_o one_o of_o you_o and_o to_o who_o do_v he_o speak_v these_o word_n follow_v to_o wit_n this_o same_o be_v my_o body_n &_o this_o same_o be_v my_o blood_n but_o even_o to_o those_o very_a man_n to_o who_o he_o speak_v the_o word_n go_v before_o as_o i_o have_v already_o declare_v &_o to_o who_o he_o give_v commandment_n to_o eat_v the_o bread_n and_o to_o drink_v the_o wine_n which_o he_o break_v &_o distribute_v unto_o they_o for_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n and_o of_o his_o blood_n chapter_n xvii_o of_o thapply_v of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n t●_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o of_o the_o consecration_n of_o they_o they_o may_v not_o then_o at_o all_o allege_v that_o they_o d●●_n better_o agree_v with_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o wine_n in_o the_o supper_n then_o with_o that_o of_o the_o w●ter_n in_o baptism_n and_o that_o it_o have_v not_o equal_a respe●●_n to_o the_o person_n aswell_o in_o the_o one_o sacrament_n as_o 〈◊〉_d the_o other_o well_o wherefore_o to_o speak_v proper_o the●_z must_v be_v refer_v in_o both_o the_o sacrament_n aswell_o 〈◊〉_d the_o sign_n as_o to_o the_o person_n to_o who_o they_o ought_v 〈◊〉_d be_v administer_v but_o it_o be_v ever_o in_o the_o respect_n of_o th●_z person_n for_o it_o shall_v be_v to_o no_o purpose_n that_o the●_z be_v pronounce_v in_o secret_a and_o in_o their_o absence_n for_o that_o shall_v be_v more_o like_a to_o a_o charm_n &_o a●_z enchantment_n then_o to_o a_o sacrament_n for_o the_o ma●ter_n which_o be_v take_v for_o the_o sign_n in_o all_o sacrament_n can_v be_v the_o sign_n well_o if_o the_o same_o be_v n●●_n dedicate_v and_o consecrate_v thereunto_o by_o t●●_n word_n of_o god_n by_o the_o which_o they_o be_v make_v h●ly_o and_o sacred_a sign_n where_o as_o before_o they_o we●●_n but_o simple_a and_o common_a matter_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v so_o great_a difference_n between_o that_o th●●_n it_o be_v example_n and_o that_o that_o it_o be_v after_o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d add_v unto_o it_o as_o there_o be_v between_o a_o piece_n of_o
1415._o there_o be_v never_o any_o ordinance_n make_v in_o the_o church_n whereby_o it_o be_v forbid_v to_o administer_v the_o cup_n to_o all_o the_o people_n as_o the_o roman_a doctor_n themselves_o be_v enforce_v to_o confess_v this_o notwithstanding_o the_o corrupt_a and_o abastardised_a roman_a church_n this_o which_o have_v make_v this_o ordinance_n clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a commandment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o to_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o true_a ancient_a church_n as_o well_o the_o roman_a as_o of_o all_o the_o true_a universal_a church_n be_v that_o true_a ancient_a roman_a church_n and_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n which_o do_v immediate_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n if_o we_o will_v believe_v the_o roman_a doctor_n albeit_o that_o she_o be_v apparent_o clean_a contrary_n to_o it_o chapter_n two_o whether_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v be_v a_o true_a supper_n if_o any_o of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o same_o be_v cut_v off_o and_o whether_o jesus_n christ_n do_v ordain_v any_o thing_n superfluous_a in_o the_o same_o whether_o he_o do_v ordain_v one_o sort_n of_o supper_n for_o one_o sort_n of_o man_n and_o a_o other_o for_o the_o other_o but_o they_o will_v yet_o reply_v reply_n that_o as_o the_o blood_n be_v contain_v under_o the_o body_n and_o that_o the_o lay_v people_n in_o receive_v the_o body_n receive_v also_o the_o blood_n albeit_o that_o they_o do_v receive_v but_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o body_n and_o not_o that_o of_o the_o blood_n even_o so_o when_o the_o priest_n communicate_v alone_o in_o the_o mass_n he_o communicate_v for_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n do_v communicate_v also_o in_o the_o person_n of_o he_o behold_v a_o very_a fair_a start_a hole_n and_o a_o reason_n very_o well_o ground_v whereupon_o i_o ask_v they_o for_o the_o first_o whether_o jesus_n christ_n do_v ordain_v any_o thing_n superfluous_a and_o in_o vain_a in_o his_o holy_a supper_n demand_n and_o that_o be_v not_o very_o necessary_a i_o do_v not_o think_v at_o all_o that_o they_o dare_v gainsay_v this_o if_o there_o be_v they_o nothing_o superfluous_a neither_o that_o be_v ordain_v in_o vain_a and_o without_o great_a and_o necessary_a cause_n in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o mystery_n which_o it_o contain_v wherefore_o be_v it_o that_o they_o dare_v to_o cut_v off_o any_o thing_n from_o thence_o and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n superfluous_a and_o not_o necessary_a note_v wherefore_o do_v they_o not_o as_o well_o cut_v off_o in_o their_o mass_n that_o whi●●_n they_o do_v cut_v off_o in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o people_n force_n much_o as_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o there_o be_v equaltie_n among_o all_o in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o h●_z ordain_v none_o other_o for_o the_o minister_n than_o h●_z do_v for_o the_o people_n nor_o for_o the_o pastor_n than_o f●●_n the_o sheep_n nor_o for_o the_o clerk_n then_o for_o the_o lay●_n and_o what_o reason_n have_v they_o to_o cut_v off_o rather_o th●_z wine_n demand_n than_o the_o bread_n they_o will_v answer_v that_o 〈◊〉_d be_v because_o that_o there_o be_v great_a danger_n in_o respect_v of_o the_o wine_n answer_v by_o mean_a of_o the_o shed_v tha●_z may_v happen_v and_o consequent_o of_o the_o blood_n into_o that_o which_o it_o be_v convert_v by_o mean_a of_o their_o transubstantiation_n wherefore_o be_v it_o then_o that_o the_o aunc●ent_a church_n do_v not_o aswell_o fear_n this_o danger_n before_o the_o time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n demand_n a_o do_v that_o church_n which_o have_v be_v since_o there_o 〈◊〉_d no_o doubt_n at_o all_o but_o that_o the_o error_n of_o transubstantiation_n have_v bring_v forth_o this_o also_o for_o th●_z church_n which_o have_v counterfeit_v it_o have_v ha●_z since_o great_a fear_n to_o shed_v the_o blood_n into_o th●_z which_o the_o wine_n be_v convert_v according_a to_o the●●_n doctrine_n than_o the_o true_a ancient_a church_n ha●●_n which_o do_v not_o know_v any_o such_o transsubstanciat●on_n wherefore_o she_o do_v not_o also_o fear_v any_o su●shedding_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n note_n and_o f●●_n that_o also_o that_o she_o do_v not_o use_v to_o keep_v the_o bre●●_n and_o the_o wine_n to_o make_v they_o to_o be_v worshippe●_n as_o they_o do_v at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o like_a sort_n she_o do_v not_o fear_v that_o the_o body_n and_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n shall_v corrupt_v in_o the_o vessel_n wherein_o they_o be_v keep_v behold_v then_o one_o reason_n that_o the_o most_o modern_a roman_a church_n have_v have_v more_o than_o the_o true_a ancient_a church_n concern_v this_o point_n and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n even_o as_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o same_o have_v magnify_v their_o dignity_n by_o mean_a of_o their_o transubstantiation_n not_o only_o above_o all_o other_o man_n but_o also_o above_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o the_o angel_n even_o so_o have_v they_o do_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o mass_n and_o of_o their_o supper_n for_o it_o be_v no_o small_a dignity_n to_o be_v able_a to_o cause_n jesus_n christ_n to_o come_v and_o to_o be_v between_o their_o hand_n every_o day_n and_o when_o it_o please_v they_o &_o to_o make_v god_n and_o to_o be_v the_o creator_n of_o the_o creator_n as_o they_o have_v name_v themselves_o heretofore_o in_o their_o own_o very_a book_n therefore_o it_o be_v very_o reasonable_a also_o that_o they_o have_v their_o communion_n apart_o separate_v from_o other_o which_o be_v not_o of_o such_o dignity_n and_o that_o it_o be_v different_a from_o that_o which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o person_n chapter_n iii._n whether_o the_o priest_n may_v receive_v the_o supper_n for_o the_o people_n and_o what_o communion_n and_o excommunication_n be_v further_o i_o ask_v they_o if_o they_o will_v be_v content_v that_o a_o other_o man_n shall_v dine_v for_o they_o demand_n or_o else_o that_o he_o shall_v receive_v the_o revenue_n of_o their_o benefice_n and_o that_o he_o shall_v keep_v the_o same_o for_o himself_o and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n shall_v say_v that_o he_o have_v receive_v it_o for_o they_o i_o do_v believe_v that_o they_o will_v not_o have_v such_o vicar_n nor_o such_o receiver_n for_o they_o neither_o at_o the_o table_n nor_o i●_z their_o recept_n but_o will_v do_v both_o the_o one_o and_o y_fw-mi other_o in_o their_o own_o person_n this_o notwithstanding_o they_o will_v needs_o be_v vicar_n of_o their_o parochians_n in_o such_o matter_n vicar_n in_o receive_v alone_o for_o they_o all_o that_o which_o belong_v general_o to_o every_o of_o they_o and_o the_o parochians_n be_v very_a we●_z content_v to_o have_v such_o vicar_n and_o receiver_n which_o do_v ordinary_o receive_v the_o supper_n for_o they_o because_o that_o they_o know_v not_o what_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v nor_o what_o profit_n or_o hurt_v they_o ma●_z receiué_fw-fr by_o the_o administration_n or_o privation_n of_o same_o wherefore_o they_o can_v know_v nor_o consider_v the_o wrong_n which_o they_o do_v to_o they_o in_o so_o deprive_v they_o be_v it_o in_o all_o or_o in_o part_n for_o who_o 〈◊〉_d shall_v well_o consider_v the_o communion_n which_o be_v in●_n mass_n and_o shall_v judge_v thereof_o according_a to_o th●_z truth_n may_v of_o right_n call_v it_o no_o communion_n at_o all_o but_o excommunication_n for_o as_o communicati●●_n signify_v the_o partake_n of_o many_o in_o one_o thing_n which_o be_v common_a to_o they_o all_o excommunication_n so_o on_o the_o contra●_n excommunication_n signify_v the_o deprivation_n 〈◊〉_d such_o a_o partake_n and_o communication_n as_o also_o to_o excommunicate_v signify_v asmuch_o as_o to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o communion_n &_o commonalty_n now_o it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o church_n as_o i_o have_v already_o declare_v be_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n &_o the_o commonalty_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o forsomuch_o as_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v according_a to_o the_o pure_a ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v of_o the_o principal_a outward_a mark_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o of_o the_o communion_n &_o commonalty_n she_o be_v also_o signify_v and_o represent_v by_o they_o instructi●●_n for_o that_o cause_n they_o do_v receive_v those_o the_o which_o they_o do_v esteem_v for_o true_a member_n of_o that_o whole_a body_n and_o of_o all_o that_o commonalty_n which_o we_o do_v call_v the_o church_n and_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n acknowledge_v they_o as_o true_a burgess_n and_o citizen_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a city_n of_o god_n and_o by_o that_o mean_a they_o do_v communicate_v unto_o they_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v unto_o they_o as_o mark_n and_o token_n which_o prince_n lord_n and_o captames_n do_v give_v to_o their_o servant_n and_o soldier_n the_o which_o they_o do_v advow_v