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A43040 The sectaries downfall: or, A treatise of the calling of ministers Wherein the orthodox clergie are approved to be the onely true and lawfull pastors of the Church of God. That all others besides them, (pretend what they please) for their usurping the ministry, without any lawfull call, are but thieves and robbers, and seducers of the people. By William Harvey, minister of the Gospell of Iesus Christ. Harvey, William, fl. 1657-1705. 1655 (1655) Wing H1093A; ESTC R218427 16,757 49

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bond-woman call themselves Sarazens as if they came from Sarah the free-woman And these mungrell Christians would make men beleeve they descend from heaven when indeed they ascend from Hell and their workes which they say are by Divine inspiration are by a Diabolicall delusion These men are like Conjurers who will have the names of God about their Circle when they are raising the Devill But if they be extraordinarily called as they say let them shew us their extraordinary Holinesss Learning and guifts of Gods Spirit Ah poore men if they come to this touchstone once their false Coine will soone appeare The bastard Eagle cannot behold this bright Sun Pray what learning is this to Call all the Ministers of the Gospell deceivers of the People to cry downe Tithes and call their lawfull maintenance Antichristian What learning to deny the God-head of our Saviour CHRIST JESVS to say that there is no Hell but that in a mans Conscience that all things come by Nature that baptizing of Infants is unlawful to deny Obedience to lawfull authority and a world of such stuffe And for Holinesse I blush that they are not asham'd to appropriate it to themselves when no Swine wallowes more in the mire then they in Sinne but I 'le stirre the Dung-hill no further least it raise a stinke THe Mediate or common and Ordinary calling is that Calling of God by ordinary meanes or by the Ministry of the Church by fit men appointed thereunto Although this Calling is by the Ministry of men yet neverthelesse it is Divine as well as the other and hath God likewise for its author For God not onely appoints in his Church Apostles immediatly called but also Teachers that are mediatly Called by the Ministry of men as you shall find 1. Cor. 12.28 and Ephes 4.11 And the Holy Ghost is said to have made and appointed Bishops and Elders in Ephesus who yet were not extraordinarily called by CHRIST but were Ordinary ordained by the Apostles Acts 20.28 Whereupon they are called the Embassadors of Christ as you have it 2 Cor. 5.20 And for this cause our saviour himselfe saith he that heareth you heareth me and hee that despiseth you despiseth me c. Luke 10,16 Hence that Protomartyr Stephen tels the Iewes Yee doe alwaies resist the Holy Ghost as your Fathers did so doe yee Acts 7.51 And St. Paul to the Thessalonians saith He therefore that despiseth despiseth not Man but GOD c. 1. Thes 4.8 But the Question is who ought all this while to ordaine and make Ministers The Politicks say this is in the power of the Secular Magistrate The Anabaptists they ascribe it to the Plebeans the mixed multitude and the Catholicks give it all to Bishops Now what is this One saith the Child is his the other his and the third his Can one Child belong to three Women no. Who then is the Mother of the Child They all make claime unto it Well I am but a foole to Solomon yet I will give it to none but share it amongst them The whole Church hath right to this Ordination and the severall Orders of Episcopacy Magistracy and People must have their due proportion In Confirmation hereof that thou maist be confident of it the practice of the Church in the Apostles time showeth This manifest in the choice and Election of Matthias Acts 1.15.23 And in the Election of the seaven Deacons the point is cleere Acts 6.23 c. Where in the sixth verse wee reade And the saying pleased the whole Multitude and so forth Their approbation was thought necessary in so weighty a matter And in the 15. of the Acts 2.22 it is said Then pleased it the Apostles and Elders with the whole Church to send Chosen men of their owne company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas namely Judas sirnamed Barsabas and Silas chief men among the Brethren Here Bellarmine cavils and saith that this Consent of the Church Non ex quadam necessitate sed ex Petri concessione It was not of any necessity but of Peters Concession only This is as good Divinity as another of his owne side who by these words of CHRIST Let these goe their way would needs defend the lawlesse estate of Clergie men But saith * In Eras Annot. 18. Iohn Erasmus this did hee doe Ridiculé fondly or foolishly If the Cardinall had but read that of the Acts cap. 6. ver 3. afore-named he would have found there That it was not Peter's grant alone but of all the rest of the Apostles The text is plaine Wherefore Brethren looke yee out among you Seaven men of honest report full of the Holy Ghost and Wisdome whom wee may appoint over this businesse And this way of Ordination the Primative Church having it as it were by tradition from the Apostles own hands alwaies Religiously observed it As appeareth by this Ordinationes Sacerdotales non nisi sub Populi assistentis conscientia fieri oportet ut plebe praesente vel detegrantur malorum crimina vel bonorum merita Praedicentur sit Ordinatio justa Legittima quae omnium Suffragio judicio fuerit examinata * In Decret 15. Dist Sancta R●…na T●ste Erasmo Praefat. in Cyprian lib 1. Epist 4. The Ordinations of Priests ought not to be made unlesse the * By People is not meant the Ignorant and factious but the godly and judicious People have knowledge of it that so being present the faults of wicked men may be detected or the deserts of good men made knowne and that is a just and lawful Ordination which shall be by the Suffrage and judgement of all Not including any Sectaries for they by no meanes must be admitted or have any voice here As for the Magistrate we all know if the People much more he hath a voice in this our Ordination In the Election of Ambrose though the People did choose him it was ratified and confirmed by the Emperor * Socrat lib 4. C. 25 Tripar lib. 7. cap. 8. Valentinian And when Athanasius had nominated one Peter to succeed him that Voyce as Theodoret doth witness was confirmed not only by the Priest and People but by the approbation of the Magistrate To make an end one Iames Pamelius in his Annotations to Cyprian confesseth that not only in Africa but also in France Spaine Rome and every where this was the custome And saith further that it so continued all the times of the Emperours Charles the Great and Ludovick the Godly And thus J hope I have given you satisfaction in this Particular Where the Bishop ordaines the People approve and Magistrate confirmes there 's a lawfull Ordination Those therefore whom God hath joyned together let no man put a sunder Take them together and they are a perfect harmony but once seperate them and they foully jarre and are out of tune The Catholicks therefore doe greatly erre and are much out of the way in giving this Power and jurisdiction solely to the Bishops