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shall_v be_v point_n of_o true_a religion_n and_o this_o be_v cross_v in_o the_o greek_a church_n which_o be_v a_o true_a one_o but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o may_v not_o be_v justify_v in_o every_o particular_a that_o they_o general_o handle_v neither_o dare_v the_o jesuite_n admit_v the_o consequent_a for_o then_o the_o point_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n conception_n in_o original_a some_o 3._o some_o canus_n â—oâ—_n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 1_o n._n 1._o n._n 3._o receive_v of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o child_n 25._o child_n rejoynder_n pag._n 25._o and_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o millenaries_n 233._o millenaries_n sixtus_n senens_fw-la bibl._n sancta_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 233._o of_o the_o vulgar_a read_n of_o the_o scripture_n 145._o scripture_n rejoynder_n p._n 139._o 14â—_n 145._o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n 116._o kind_n rejoynder_n pag._n 116._o that_o the_o book_n of_o toâ—y_n judith_n and_o the_o macchabee_n be_v apocryphal_a 166._o apocryphal_a rejoynder_n pag._n 166._o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o thâ—â—_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o â—ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o iâ—_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o â—â—_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o â—ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o 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of_o father_n be_v the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n without_o scripture_n when_o you_o yourselves_o dare_v not_o attribute_v to_o any_o father_n authority_n &_o power_n to_o express_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n by_o their_o bare_a consent_n for_o durand_n say_v that_o although_o the_o church_n have_v power_n of_o gâ—â—_n on_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o do_v not_o exceed_v thâ—_n limitation_n of_o the_o scripture_n scripturae_fw-la scripture_n durand_n â—â—_o dist._n 44._o q._n 3._o â—_o 9_o ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la dominationem_fw-la dei._n illa_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—on_n excedit_fw-la limitationem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la universal_a extent_n of_o doctrine_n be_v a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n but_o the_o absolute_a foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o sacred_a scripture_n neither_o be_v we_o at_o all_o to_o give_v credit_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n upon_o matthew_n among_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostome_n unto_o the_o church_n 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batter_v you_o and_o beat_v you_o down_o and_o although_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o point_n controvert_v that_o the_o jesuite_n speak_v of_o dioscorus_n yet_o we_o may_v consider_v it_o without_o offence_n he_o tell_v we_o dioscorus_n be_v condemn_v and_o cast_v out_o for_o maintain_v his_o own_o opinion_n against_o that_o of_o the_o whole_a council_n 88_o council_n reply_v pag._n 88_o not_o so_o but_o a_o heretical_a opinion_n he_o may_v have_v vary_v from_o a_o whole_a council_n in_o a_o truth_n as_o your_o panormitane_n insinuate_v papâ—_n insinuate_v panorm_a super_fw-la p._n decret_a deelect_v etelec_fw-la potestate_fw-la c._n signif_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la papa_n movere_fw-la tur_fw-la melioribus_fw-la rationibus_fw-la et_fw-la auctoritatibus_fw-la quam_fw-la concilium_fw-la quod_fw-la standum_fw-la esset_fw-la sententiae_fw-la suae_fw-la nam_fw-la et_fw-la concilium_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o concernentibus_fw-la fidem_fw-la etiam_fw-la dictum_fw-la 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romae_fw-la caputiâ—â—perij_fw-la effect_n primatum_fw-la meruerit_fw-la
say_v so_o much_o for_o it_o as_o aquinas_n his_o cyrill_n perhibet_fw-la canus_n l_o 6._o â—_o 5_o cyrillus_n apud_fw-la thomaâ—â—ulâ—o_fw-la evidentiùs_fw-la quim_fw-la authores_fw-la â—aeâ—eâ—i_fw-la huic_fw-la veritati_fw-la testimonium_fw-la perhibet_fw-la and_o yet_o in_o the_o true_a cyrill_n there_o be_v never_o a_o word_n to_o be_v find_v and_o further_o in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n have_v not_o the_o same_o thomas_n graecoâ—â—m_fw-la thomas_n in_o oppose_v con_v â—rrores_fw-la graecoâ—â—m_fw-la mention_v decree_n they_o never_o dream_v of_o and_o labour_v to_o make_v the_o greek_n esteem_v heretic_n by_o such_o invent_a forgery_n that_o he_o have_v bring_v against_o they_o and_o all_o for_o appâ—aâ—â—â—â—_n râ—â—â—_n â—or_a â—â—â—_o holiness_n his_o universal_a vicarage_n the_o cause_n show_v the_o forger_n and_o the_o forger_n confess_v the_o weakness_n of_o the_o cause_n now_o not_o only_o forge_v and_o coin_v but_o also_o clip_v have_v be_v too_o manifest_a you_o say_v yourselves_o that_o heretic_n have_v do_v this_o and_o we_o believe_v it_o and_o who_o be_v those_o heretickâ—_n if_o you_o can_v declare_v who_o those_o be_v sure_o they_o be_v never_o do_v the_o assign_v of_o person_n time_n and_o plâ—â—e_n by_o your_o doctrine_n be_v the_o medium_n to_o find_v such_o concealment_n out_o further_o if_o the_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n be_v corrupt_v we_o may_v just_o accuse_v you_o that_o pretend_v to_o be_v the_o keeper_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n that_o you_o will_v suffer_v such_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v and_o know_v not_o who_o you_o may_v true_o suspect_v so_o that_o if_o you_o confess_v corruption_n declare_v the_o corrupter_n if_o you_o know_v corruption_n and_o do_v not_o assign_v they_o it_o be_v more_o than_o probable_a that_o you_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o work_n howsoever_o you_o may_v not_o return_v this_o upon_o we_o who_o you_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v little_o â—â—â—â—ienter_a than_o your_o order_n and_o but_o a_o little_a in_o antiquity_n precede_v your_o faith_n so_o that_o we_o may_v conclude_v the_o injury_n be_v little_a the_o accusation_n be_v just_a the_o jesuite_n name_v other_o injury_n that_o he_o will_v let_v pass_v as_o when_o to_o shun_v that_o difficulty_n which_o pinch_v he_o say_v he_o in_o my_o demand_n he_o frame_v it_o fâ—â—re_o otherwise_o than_o it_o be_v prepâ—â—nded_v 94._o reply_v pag_n 93_o 94._o see_v the_o answer_n thereto_o whether_o the_o jesuite_n play_v not_o simplician_n in_o the_o demand_n for_o the_o â—â—iâ—_n passage_n which_o he_o likewise_o complain_v of_o the_o jesuite_n promise_v afterward_o to_o discover_v theâ—_n etc._n etc._n to_o which_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n yet_o one_o thing_n the_o jesuite_n must_v not_o lâ—t_o pass_v to_o observe_v that_o when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o answerers_n religion_n can_v be_v â—â—ue_n because_o it_o disallow_v of_o mâ—â—y_a chief_a article_n which_o the_o saint_n and_o father_n of_o that_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n do_v general_o hold_v â—o_o be_v true_a the_o answerer_n will_v needs_o prescribe_v unto_o he_o what_o he_o must_v prove_v say_v that_o it_o will_v not_o â—e_v sufficient_a for_o he_o that_o some_o of_o the_o father_n 〈◊〉_d some_o of_o those_o opinion_n but_o he_o must_v prove_v if_o he_o will_v deal_v to_o the_o purpose_n that_o they_o hold_v they_o general_o and_o hold_v they_o too_o not_o as_o opinion_n but_o 〈◊〉_d dâ—â—ide_n as_o 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n 94_o reply_v pag._n 94_o sure_o if_o these_o be_v not_o fit_a caâ—tions_n for_o they_o to_o observe_v that_o by_o antiquity_n universality_n and_z consent_n of_o father_n pretend_v to_o find_v the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n let_v any_o modest_a nature_n discern_v for_o if_o the_o jesuite_n observe_v not_o these_o rule_n he_o may_v urge_v at_o pleasure_n but_o can_v prove_v nothing_o if_o they_o be_v of_o faith_n now_o they_o must_v have_v be_v so_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n for_o that_o rule_n be_v unalterable_a and_o without_o change_n and_o beside_o iâ—reformabilis_fw-la tertul._n dâ—_n virg._n vel_fw-la c._n 1._o regula_n fidei_fw-la una_fw-la omnino_fw-la est_fw-la sola_fw-la illa_fw-la immobilis_fw-la &_o iâ—reformabilis_fw-la if_o they_o be_v then_o repute_v point_n of_o faith_n the_o rule_n to_o prove_v doctrine_n by_o consent_n will_v fail_v if_o the_o father_n do_v not_o general_o consent_v in_o every_o one_o of_o these_o for_o if_o father_n do_v differ_v in_o ground_n of_o faith_n and_o catholic_a religion_n where_o be_v their_o harmony_n and_o if_o they_o consent_v not_o in_o all_o why_o shall_v their_o consent_n be_v make_v a_o rule_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o any_o juris_fw-la any_o cal_n lex_fw-la jurid_n regulae_fw-la ofâ—icium_fw-la est_fw-la exhibere_fw-la nobisgeneraliter_fw-la definitionem_fw-la juris_fw-la but_o wherefore_o do_v the_o jesuite_n distaste_n these_o he_o show_v it_o be_v not_o for_o any_o just_a exception_n he_o can_v take_v against_o they_o but_o out_o of_o a_o jealouâ—ie_n from_o whence_o they_o proceed_v whether_o from_o charity_n which_o he_o will_v not_o believe_v or_o which_o be_v more_o likely_a perchance_o from_o a_o conceit_n of_o his_o weakness_n and_o ignorance_n whereby_o the_o answerer_n be_v afraid_a that_o he_o know_v not_o himself_o what_o he_o have_v to_o prove_v or_o how_o it_o may_v be_v prove_v 94_o reply_v pag._n 94_o which_o the_o jesuite_n for_o his_o ownsake_n be_v unwilling_a to_o acknowledge_v for_o say_v he_o though_o i_o confess_v myself_o to_o be_v the_o weak_a of_o a_o thousand_o yet_o have_v i_o no_o reason_n to_o think_v that_o he_o will_v any_o way_n support_v my_o weakness_n who_o have_v undertake_v to_o enter_v into_o 〈◊〉_d with_o i_o before_o such_o spectator_n â—â—_o in_o their_o view_n the_o â—east_n â—â—yle_n can_v be_v reâ—â—ived_v without_o a_o great_a disgrace_n abide_v disgrace_n abide_v here_o the_o jesuite_n manife_v his_o charity_n but_o declare_v no_o 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he_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o most_o leaâ—â—ed_a 〈◊〉_d câ—â—â—itie_n to_o himself_o or_o 〈◊〉_d towards_o the_o fatheâ—â—_n as_o â—â—_o please_v i_o be_o 〈◊〉_d â—e_n have_v say_v nothing_o here_o that_o may_v persuade_v we_o that_o he_o have_v swallow_v down_o all_o antiquity_n or_o that_o his_o knowledge_n be_v so_o great_a that_o from_o the_o answer_v learned_a 〈◊〉_d he_o may_v not_o receive_v instruction_n but_o the_o jesuite_n 〈◊〉_d know_v that_o these_o be_v not_o the_o reason_n that_o move_v he_o to_o persuade_v the_o obsâ—â—â—ation_n of_o these_o rule_n but_o their_o desperate_a impudeâ—ciâ—s_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o they_o can_v pretend_v father_n for_o their_o cause_n that_o hold_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o by_o devise_v a_o 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v they_o their_o friend_n when_o they_o be_v urge_v against_o they_o and_o also_o make_v that_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o the_o father_n creed_n neither_o find_v in_o any_o of_o their_o exposition_n upon_o the_o same_o this_o be_v the_o reason_n of_o give_v these_o câ—â—tions_n because_o they_o use_v the_o father_n to_o blind_a not_o to_o manifest_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o ancient_a â—aith_n &_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n may_v see_v how_o â—ond_a his_o imagination_n be_v &_o how_o poor_a hâ—â—_n conceit_n but_o the_o jesuit_n see_v the_o roman_a faith_n to_o be_v such_o that_o he_o dare_v not_o undertake_v to_o prove_v it_o but_o bysome_a few_o and_o that_o not_o as_o point_v 〈◊〉_d but_o as_o point_n hold_v by_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o presumption_n as_o if_o in_o antiquity_n there_o be_v not_o a_o 〈◊〉_d betwixt_o their_o creed_n with_o the_o point_n therein_o &_o other_o remote_a deduction_n from_o the_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o hence_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o this_o 〈…〉_o which_o the_o 〈…〉_o of_o father_n now_o he_o will_v give_v 〈…〉_o wherefore_o he_o 〈◊〉_d these_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d be_v he_o 〈…〉_o any_o purpose_n for_o first_o he_o confess_v it_o absurd_a that_o
be_v 〈…〉_o father_n 〈…〉_o and_o say_n of_o all_o and_o 〈…〉_o time_n 〈◊〉_d religion_n and_o therefore_o it_o will_v be_v much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d to_o find_v out_o their_o general_a consent_n that_o aâ—â—_n so_o lâ—ng_a deâ—â—_n and_o there_o he_o will_v â—â—ve_v the_o reader_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o agreement_n thou_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o 〈◊〉_d which_o iâ—_n not_o otherwise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—led_v the_o general_a conâ—ent_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o have_v urge_v s._n augustine_n that_o when_o he_o dispute_v 〈◊〉_d the_o pelagâ—â—â—s_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n he_o thougâ—â—â—â—_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thereby_o the_o common_a â—aith_n of_o the_o whâ—â—e_a church_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o ephesâ—â—_n have_v produce_v â—â—t_n â—en_o father_n make_v no_o 〈◊〉_d but_o thaâ—_n by_o theâ—â—_n agree_v authority_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n wâ—â—_n fâ—lly_a 〈◊〉_d against_o nestâ—riâ—â—_n for_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d do_v iâ—_n judgement_n agree_v with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 95._o reply_v pag._n 94_o 95._o but_o all_o the_o whâ—â—e_o he_o do_v little_o consider_v that_o his_o own_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o he_o what_o make_v the_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o 〈◊〉_d will_v haâ—e_v those_o to_o be_v counâ—â—â—_n all_o the_o doctor_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v just_o 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o rest_n neglect_v 〈◊〉_d greg._n de_fw-fr valen_n loco_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la omnes_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la iâ—_n quorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la consideratis_fw-la â—ruditionis_fw-la piâ—tatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la à _fw-la prudentibus_fw-la certè_fw-la â—â—â—um_fw-la solummodò_fw-la ratio_fw-la habeâ—i_fw-la debâ—â—t_fw-la câ—â—â—ris_fw-la neglectis_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d collect_v by_o hiâ—_n practiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o concâ—â—â—ing_n augustiâ—â—_n who_o 〈◊〉_d malachy'_v dayâ—â—â—_n sacrifice_v of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o pâ—â—yers_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o â—_o aâ—or_fw-es inst_z mor_fw-fr part_n 1._o lib_n 10_o cap._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o be_v onâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_z â—â—â—ing_a thâ—â—_n be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n now_o if_o 〈◊〉_d take_v consent_n of_o father_n according_a to_o 〈◊〉_d than_o we_o â—inde_v a_o conseâ—t_n of_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o 〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a church_n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—brose_n tradiderunt_fw-la â—_o stapleton_n deâ—ens_n ecclesiastic_a 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o non_fw-it sunt_fw-la â—â—sensâ—_n sed_fw-la sententiam_fw-la contrariam_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la clemâ—ns_n 〈◊〉_d and_o berâ—ard_n do_v not_o assent_v unto_o the_o 〈◊〉_d which_o 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o flâ—rence_n 〈…〉_o if_o you_o desire_v more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d justinus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d obligandi_fw-la 〈…〉_o obligandi_fw-la for_o your_o consent_n whether_o it_o will_v prove_v better_o for_o you_o thâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d have_v do_v i_o can_v tell_v but_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o the_o answerer_n who_o dare_v try_v the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o father_n which_o he_o be_v â—ot_n â—ounâ—_n unto_o their_o consent_n be_v not_o by_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o faith_n â—â—_o confident_a that_o by_o they_o you_o will_v not_o find_v two_o witness_n much_o lesseâ—enne_n that_o will_v justify_v your_o cause_n without_o a_o personal_a or_o at_o least_o material_a opposition_n and_o therefore_o howsoever_o this_o be_v not_o their_o general_a consent_n if_o we_o speak_v proper_o yet_o we_o will_v presume_v iâ—_n to_o be_v so_o for_o the_o present_a to_o see_v whether_o you_o be_v able_a to_o perform_v any_o thing_n that_o so_o glorious_o boast_v of_o so_o much_o which_o we_o be_v confident_a you_o can_v in_o regard_v some_o of_o your_o point_n mention_v be_v confess_v by_o your_o own_o neither_o to_o be_v in_o father_n oâ—_n scripture_n at_o all_o as_o adâ—â—â—tion_n of_o image_n for_o so_o massâ—â—â—â—_n in_o libelliâ—_n de_fw-fr picturiâ—_n &_o imaginibâ—â—_n do_v seem_v to_o acknowledge_v and_o roffensâ—s_v your_o martyr_n have_v the_o same_o opinion_n or_o but_o a_o very_a little_a better_a of_o the_o scorch_a article_n of_o your_o purgatory_n faith_n â—4_n faith_n see_v before_o pag._n â—4_n so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v little_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o we_o â—eaâ—e_n the_o testimony_n of_o father_n for_o the_o point_n in_o controversy_n when_o as_o wise_a as_o himself_o know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o thâ—â—â—_n to_o be_v find_v but_o though_o wâ—â—ermit_v this_o for_o the_o preseâ—â—_n to_o see_v whether_o the_o jesuite_n can_v prove_v any_o thing_n by_o his_o own_o touchstone_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o consider_v that_o his_o collection_n out_z of_o s._n augustine_n be_v reject_v by_o that_o father_n testimony_n for_o whereas_o the_o jesuite_n insinâ—â—teth_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o common_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n may_v sufficient_o be_v prâ—â—â—d_n by_o the_o uniform_a doctrine_n â—f_a 1â—_n chief_a father_n yet_o when_o s._n hierome_n bring_v a_o â—umber_n of_o father_n s._n augustine_n stick_v not_o to_o answer_v he_o in_o this_o manner_n i_o may_v as_o i_o believe_v easy_o findâ—_n some_o father_n to_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n if_o i_o do_v read_v much_o but_o the_o very_a apostle_n s._n paul_n offer_v himselfâ—â—â—tâ—â—eâ—_n for_o all_o these_o yâ—â—_n above_o all_o these_o to_o he_o i_o â—lye_v to_o he_o i_o appeal_v from_o all_o other_o interpreter_n and_o seek_v unto_o he_o in_o that_o which_o he_o write_v to_o the_o galathian_o 〈…〉_o galathian_o aâ—gust_n epist_n 1â—_n â—oâ—â—eâ—_n quâ—dem_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitroâ—_fw-la facilè_fw-la repeâ—â—râ—_n â—i_fw-mi 〈…〉_o ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—ro_fw-mi his_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—ò_fw-la supra_fw-la â—os_v omnes_fw-la apostolic_a paulus_n â—ccuâ—â—â—â—_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la ipsum_fw-la aâ—_n omnibâ—_n qui_fw-la aliud_fw-la senâ—iâ—nt_fw-la liteâ—â—â—â—â—_n ejus_fw-la 〈…〉_o provoâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d iâ—â—â—ogaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d &_o â—â—_o quâ—â—o_o in_o â—â—_o quod_fw-la 〈…〉_o and_o by_o this_o which_o have_v be_v say_v we_o perceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o a_o manner_n be_v urge_v to_o confess_v that_o this_o rule_n want_v perfection_n and_o that_o the_o father_n consent_n can_v be_v absolute_o produce_v but_o presume_v only_o neither_o do_v it_o please_v the_o jesuite_n the_o other_o caution_n lay_v down_o thâ—â—_n he_o must_v prâ—â—ve_v that_o the_o father_n hold_v thâ—se_a point_v not_o only_o general_o but_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n and_o from_o hence_o he_o will_v collect_v that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n fear_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o father_n hâ—lde_v they_o general_o indeed_o and_o therefore_o provide_v this_o revy_z â—rgeing_v they_o to_o prove_v further_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n â—â—_o religion_n reply_v p_o â—â—_o a_o fit_a collection_n for_o a_o wise_a apprehension_n before_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o point_n noâ—_n determine_v she_o the_o church_n grant_v free_a liberty_n unto_o all_o catholic_a doctor_n to_o expound_v aswell_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o father_n for_o the_o uphold_v of_o that_o part_n which_o themselves_o do_v think_v to_o be_v most_o probable_a 9â—_n probable_a reply_v pag_n 9â—_n in_o which_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o scripture_n in_o point_n not_o determine_v as_o in_o the_o cause_n of_o predestination_n and_o conception_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n might_n be_v interpret_v against_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o father_n as_o the_o two_o jesuite_n pererius_n and_o maldonate_fw-it have_v do_v and_o the_o father_n themselves_o expound_v with_o such_o a_o gloss_n as_o make_v best_a for_o the_o uphold_v of_o that_o part_n now_o if_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o father_n be_v able_a to_o determine_v a_o point_n that_o be_v not_o the_o fide_fw-la why_o be_v they_o reject_v by_o the_o jesuite_n and_o the_o jesuite_n justify_v by_o mr_n malone_n if_o the_o father_n consent_n have_v strength_n only_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n why_o do_v he_o quarrel_v at_o this_o caution_n which_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v necessary_a not_o proceed_v from_o fear_n but_o from_o a_o wise_a and_o prudent_a consideration_n and_o to_o prevent_v we_o herein_o say_v the_o jesuite_n he_o affirm_v before_o hand_n that_o the_o say_v point_n be_v not_o all_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n 93._o faith_n reply_v pag._n 93._o what_o do_v he_o labour_n to_o prevent_v you_o in_o unless_o it_o be_v
ibid._n i_o have_v make_v it_o good_a before_o that_o heresy_n be_v more_o ancient_a than_o the_o papacy_n and_o that_o duration_n do_v not_o exclude_v their_o opinion_n from_o be_v profane_a and_o heretical_a novelty_n 194._o novelty_n before_o p._n 193._o 194._o in_o which_o place_n as_o also_o hereafter_o the_o inquisitor_n may_v receive_v satisfaction_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n consequent_o will_v have_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o his_o religion_n be_v of_o more_o antiquity_n 106._o antiquity_n reply_v p._n 106._o now_o as_o the_o jesuite_n distaste_v the_o term_n of_o novelty_n deserve_o cast_v at_o himself_o and_o he_o so_o he_o be_v impatient_a that_o antiquity_n may_v any_o way_n belong_v to_o we_o and_o therefore_o in_o a_o disgraceful_a manner_n say_v that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n endeavour_v to_o make_v good_a the_o antiquity_n of_o his_o profession_n first_o by_o jump_v at_o once_o over_o a_o thousand_o six_o hundred_o year_n and_o square_n his_o faith_n by_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n ibid._n apostle_n reply_v ibid._n but_o this_o be_v not_o vanity_n if_o it_o be_v do_v unless_o the_o jesuite_n will_v condemn_v himself_o as_o vain_a also_o for_o in_o several_a particular_n he_o be_v force_v to_o jump_v to_o the_o apostolical_a time_n himself_o as_o have_v be_v before_o observe_v 87_o observe_v pag_n 86._o 87_o neither_o dare_v he_o adhere_v to_o his_o touchstone_n the_o father_n but_o where_o his_o holy_a father_n have_v approve_v he_o 98._o he_o reply_v p._n 98._o and_o for_o god_n pen_n although_o he_o do_v distaste_n it_o yet_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o pretend_v from_o thence_o some_o safety_n though_o imaginarily_o when_o otherwise_o he_o can_v find_v no_o protection_n at_o all_o letter_n all_o see_v the_o direction_n at_o the_o letter_n but_o let_v the_o jesuite_n know_v that_o he_o leap_v short_a that_o reach_v not_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o any_o other_o without_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o divine_a mystery_n be_v to_o be_v deceive_v give_v god_n and_o his_o word_n the_o first_o place_n the_o father_n will_v never_o be_v deny_v to_o be_v great_a help_n to_o truth_n and_o devotion_n and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n do_v desire_v second_o say_v the_o jesuite_n by_o adventure_v though_o faint_o to_o justify_v it_o by_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o middle_a age_n do_v profess_v 106._o profess_v reply_v p._n 106._o here_o the_o jesuite_n detect_v himself_o that_o what_o he_o have_v utter_v before_o be_v untrue_a for_o there_o he_o charge_v the_o answerer_n with_o jump_v at_o once_o over_o a_o thousand_o six_o hundred_o year_n and_o yet_o in_o this_o place_n he_o acknowledge_v he_o to_o justify_v our_o profession_n by_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o middle_a age_n do_v profess_v here_o we_o may_v see_v the_o reason_n why_o mr_n malone_n plead_v the_o father_n for_o his_o touchstone_n and_o accuse_v we_o for_o reject_v they_o not_o because_o he_o account_n they_o the_o rule_n or_o be_v confident_a in_o their_o trial_n but_o because_o the_o people_n who_o they_o daily_o deceive_v be_v not_o so_o well_o able_a to_o make_v use_n of_o they_o whereby_o to_o convict_v their_o error_n these_o be_v they_o that_o cry_v the_o father_n the_o father_n and_o yet_o despise_v they_o we_o keep_v they_o under_o the_o command_n of_o their_o master_n yet_o deny_v they_o not_o their_o just_a reverence_n their_o deserve_a honour_n we_o have_v see_v say_v the_o jesuite_n how_o he_o have_v fail_v in_o the_o first_o produce_v no_o more_o for_o himself_o then_o all_o heretic_n have_v ever_o do_v 106._o do_v reply_v p._n 106._o if_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n have_v only_o pretend_v scripture_n without_o the_o truth_n or_o true_a sense_n of_o it_o he_o have_v do_v no_o more_o than_o the_o devil_n papist_n and_o other_o heretic_n have_v do_v but_o how_o will_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v this_o to_o have_v be_v practise_v by_o his_o learned_a answerer_n the_o scripture_n he_o desire_v not_o as_o papist_n and_o heretic_n have_v abuse_v they_o but_o in_o their_o true_a sense_n this_o light_n because_o you_o can_v endure_v must_v you_o therefore_o be_v a_o conqueror_n poor_a fugitive_n how_o do_v he_o dream_v when_o he_o fly_v from_o that_o power_n that_o prosecute_v and_o will_v condemn_v he_o for_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n will_v not_o only_o as_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o angel_n make_v the_o ass_n bruise_v the_o leg_n â—â—_o leg_n â—â—â—_o â—â—_o â—â—_o but_o even_o break_v the_o heart_n of_o the_o false_a prophet_n if_o his_o eye_n do_v behold_v the_o brightness_n of_o it_o and_o as_o vain_o do_v he_o charge_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n with_o fear_n and_o shameful_a tergiversation_n from_o the_o father_n testimony_n 106._o testimony_n reply_v p._n 106._o when_o as_o whatsoever_o he_o have_v say_v concern_v they_o be_v the_o same_o that_o some_o papist_n nay_o the_o jesuite_n himself_o notwithstanding_o he_o call_v they_o the_o touchstone_n have_v affirm_v be_v it_o not_o mr_n malone_n that_o reject_v the_o father_n general_o consent_v and_o defend_v they_o that_o do_v likewise_o 92._o likewise_o reply_v p._n 92._o who_o declare_v it_o lawful_a for_o every_o one_o in_o point_n that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o make_v faith_n to_o press_v &_o urge_v the_o father_n or_o reject_v they_o as_o they_o please_v 93._o please_v reply_v p._n 93._o do_v not_o a_o troop_n of_o their_o own_o exclude_v they_o from_o that_o authority_n in_o the_o church_n which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v seem_v to_o give_v they_o neither_o afford_v they_o the_o honour_n of_o a_o rule_n or_o touchstone_n either_o ecclesia_fw-la either_o bellarm._n â—_o de_fw-fr council_n author_n l._n 2._o c._n 12._o scripta_fw-la patrum_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la regulae_fw-la neque_fw-la habent_fw-la auctoritatem_fw-la obligandi_fw-la wadding_n legate_n de_fw-fr concep_n 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judgement_n of_o erasâ—us_n commâ—â—oâ—are_n erasâ—us_n erasmus_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la ante_fw-la libros_fw-la hilarij_fw-la divus_o augustinu_n adversuâ—_n pelagium_n diâ—iâ—ans_v minus_fw-la tribâ—it_fw-la libeâ—o_fw-la hominis_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la quam_fw-la nunâ—â—â—ibueâ—â—dum_fw-la putant_fw-la qui_fw-la nuâ—c_fw-la in_o school_n regnant_a scâ—olastiâ—is_n possem_fw-la â—ujus_fw-la generis_fw-la exemplâ—_n multa_fw-la commâ—â—oâ—are_n as_o for_o merit_n the_o father_n be_v also_o charge_v with_o error_n by_o our_o adversary_n adversatur_fw-la adversary_n peâ—eâ—_n je_n comm_n in_o rom._n â—_o disâ—_n â—â—_o num_fw-la 106._o &_o disp_a 23._o num_fw-la 111._o grâ—ci_n patres_fw-la neâ—_n panci_fw-la laâ—inorum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la arbitraâ—â—_n sunt_fw-la praedestinatioâ—â—_n causam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la praevisa_fw-la hominum_fw-la opera_fw-la â—uâ—_n fidem_fw-la non_fw-la meâ—â—â—_n dei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la scripturae_fw-la adversatur_fw-la further_o whosoever_o 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which_o serve_v not_o to_o their_o purpose_n be_v of_o no_o better_a esteem_n than_o a_o company_n of_o lewd_a woman_n in_o a_o weaver_n shop_n or_o the_o bath_n thermis_fw-la bath_n lud._n vives_z coâ—_n in_o aug._n de_fw-fr civet_n dâ—â—_n l._n 20._o c._n 26._o itaque_fw-la illa_fw-la demùm_fw-la â—is_fw-la videntur_fw-la â—dicta_fw-la &_o concilia_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o rem_fw-la sâ—aâ—_n faciunt_fw-la reliqua_fw-la non_fw-la pluris_fw-la a_o stiâ—anda_fw-la quam_fw-la conventum_fw-la muliâ—rcularum_fw-la in_o textrina_fw-la vel_fw-la thermis_fw-la and_o let_v the_o jesuit_n resolve_v whether_o we_o may_v conclude_v that_o they_o have_v utter_o disclaim_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n because_o sixtus_n senensis_n have_v mention_v eleven_o of_o those_o ancient_n that_o hold_v prescience_n of_o merit_n &_o be_v therefore_o censure_v by_o he_o for_o condemn_a pelagian_o est_fw-la pelagian_o sixtus_n sense_n bibliotâ—_n sanâ—â—_n l._n 6._o annot._fw-la 251._o haec_fw-la 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praedestinatioâ—is_fw-la quae_fw-la quidem_fw-la sententia_fw-la in_o pelagio_n damnata_fw-la est_fw-la moreover_o baronius_n have_v slander_v all_o the_o historiographer_n of_o the_o four_o age_n with_o word_n as_o uncomely_a as_o any_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v from_o any_o of_o we_o charge_v some_o with_o obscurity_n other_o with_o defect_n of_o â—rder_n diligence_n piety_n truth_n and_o some_o with_o writing_n lie_v for_o private_a affection_n aâ—texuerint_fw-la affection_n baron_fw-fr ann_n 395._o n._n 43._o licet_fw-la tot_fw-la historicis_fw-la haec_fw-la aeâ—as_fw-la abundâsse_fw-la videatur_fw-la tamen_fw-la adhuc_fw-la iâ—opâ—_n harum_fw-la facultâ—â—um_fw-la remansit_fw-la &_o in_o noâ—nullis_n obscura_fw-la quod_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la alij_fw-la res_fw-la multas_fw-la brevitate_fw-la nimia_fw-la contra_fw-la â—eâ—int_fw-la alij_fw-la intactas_fw-la penitus_fw-la reliquerâ—â—t_fw-la desideretur_fw-la auâ—â—_n in_fw-la alijs_fw-la ordo_fw-la in_fw-la alijs_fw-la veâ—ò_fw-la teâ—poâ—â—_n exaction_n indagatio_fw-la pericliâ—enturque_fw-la alij_fw-la veritatâ—_n aâ—_n pariter_fw-la â—iâ—tate_n affectuque_fw-la privato_fw-la ducti_fw-la pro_fw-la arbâ—triâ—_n mendacia_fw-la veris_fw-la aâ—texuerint_fw-la and_o in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o immaculate_a conception_n although_o the_o affirmative_a point_n bring_v more_o doctor_n than_o will_v make_v a_o consent_n in_o the_o jesuite_n judgement_n yet_o the_o negative_a â—ast_v they_o off_o &_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v not_o tie_v to_o so_o poor_a a_o number_n of_o the_o father_n dâ—fiâ—â—â—â—_n father_n wadding_n legat._n de_fw-fr conâ—â—â—â—_n virg_n mâ—riâ—_n sect_n 2_o orat_fw-la 9_o §._o 6._o totidem_fw-la scil_n 15._o &_o plures_fw-la doctores_fw-la non_fw-la ita_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n coarctent_a &_o ligent_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la consultum_fw-la &_o rectum_fw-la duxerit_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la contra_fw-la â—os_v cum_fw-la alijs_fw-la dâ—fiâ—â—â—â—_n neither_o have_v the_o church_n the_o father_n but_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n &_o his_o spirit_n for_o a_o rule_n and_o governor_n which_o can_v be_v deceive_v ecclesia_fw-la deceive_v ibid_fw-la neâ—_n enim_fw-la parvum_fw-la doctoâ—â—m_fw-la aggâ—rem_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la sapientiam_fw-la &_o spiritum_fw-la pro_fw-la regula_fw-la et_fw-la rectore_fw-la veritatis_fw-la habet_fw-la sancta_fw-la haec_fw-la nostra_fw-la quae_fw-la falli_fw-la non_fw-la poâ—â—â—_n mâ—tâ—â—_n ecclesia_fw-la further_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castre_n will_v believe_v anacletus_fw-la a_o merchant_n better_o than_o either_o augustine_n or_o hiâ—româ—_n augustine_n alfon_n de_fw-fr castro_n adver_o haerverbo_fw-la episcop_n â—uic_fw-la anacle_n to_o â—oli_fw-la magis_fw-la credidâ—riâ—_n quam_fw-la â—ille_fw-la wicleâ—itis_fw-la imâ—o_fw-la magis_fw-la quam_fw-la hiâ—â—â—nymo_n aut_fw-la augustine_n yet_o although_o they_o thus_o censure_v sometime_o just_o ofttimes_o unjust_o those_o ancient_n i_o will_v not_o conclude_v 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say_v brethren_n if_o i_o can_v avouch_v it_o as_o certain_a you_o must_v not_o be_v offend_v i_o be_o but_o a_o man_n and_o what_o i_o be_o assure_v by_o the_o scripture_n that_o i_o dare_v affirm_v and_o of_o myself_o nothing_o hell_n neither_o i_o have_v yet_o experience_n of_o neither_o you_o and_o perchance_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o other_o way_n and_o by_o heâ—â—_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v for_o these_o thing_n be_v altogether_o uncertain_a haec_fw-la august_n in_o psal_n 85._o quod_fw-la diciâ—â—â—_n fraâ—res_n hoc_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la vobis_fw-la tanquam_fw-la certes_o exposuero_fw-la â—e_v â—uccenseatis_fw-la â—omo_fw-la enim_fw-la sum_fw-la &_o quaâ—tum_fw-la conceditur_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n â—anctis_fw-la tantum_fw-la aâ—deo_fw-la dicâ—â—e_fw-la nihil_fw-la ex_fw-la â—e_n inâ—eâ—â—â—neâ—_n ego_fw-la exper_fw-la â—us_fw-la â—um_fw-la â—dhâ—c_fw-la nec_fw-la vos_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d alia_fw-la via_fw-la erit_fw-la &_o non_fw-la per_fw-la inâ—erâ—um_fw-la 〈◊〉_d iâ—cerâ—a_fw-la â—â—nt_fw-la enim_fw-la haec_fw-la so_o that_o we_o see_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n his_o lesson_n allege_v what_o authority_n you_o listen_v without_o scripture_n and_o it_o shall_v not_o suffice_v be_v both_o orthodox_n and_o ancient_a also_o but_o let_v this_o pass_n as_o sufficient_o urge_v already_o will_v our_o answerer_n have_v the_o forehead_n now_o say_v the_o jesuite_n to_o charge_v we_o any_o more_o with_o novelty_n 100l_n novelty_n reply_v p._n 100l_n truth_n need_v not_o a_o brazen_a forehead_n but_o where_o it_o be_v persecute_v and_o then_o it_o have_v defence_n little_a enough_o to_o have_v not_o only_o her_o forehead_n but_o face_n of_o brass_n also_o for_o how_o do_v the_o jesuite_n outface_v brow-beate_a triumph_n and_o tell_v every_o passenger_n that_o he_o have_v beat_v she_o against_o her_o nature_n into_o a_o corner_n when_o there_o be_v no_o thing_n but_o a_o rage_a sea_n and_o watery_a foam_n but_o the_o great_a one_o of_o his_o own_o 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for_o as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v that_o be_v new_a in_o religion_n which_o be_v not_o most_o ancient_a 194_o pag._n 19â—_n 194_o yet_o i_o will_v wait_v upon_o his_o repetition_n a_o little_a and_o show_v that_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v derive_v his_o religion_n further_o than_o from_o the_o father_n the_o tradition_n whereupon_o it_o be_v build_v be_v then_o but_o humane_a &_o so_o a_o new_a thing_n even_o novelty_n itself_o and_o therefore_o tâ—rtullian_n tell_v we_o that_o be_v most_o true_a which_o be_v most_o ancient_a that_o most_o ancient_a which_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n that_o from_o the_o beginning_n which_o from_o the_o apostle_n apostolic_a teâ—â—â—l_fw-it l._n 4_o aâ—_n mâ—rc_n id_fw-la veriâ—â—_n quod_fw-la â—râ—â—s_fw-la id_fw-la priâ—â—_n quod_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolic_a how_o convince_a a_o argument_n than_o have_v the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o his_o purpose_n will_v he_o find_v a_o 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