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A just and lawful tryal of the Foxonian chief priests a perfect proceeding against them and they condemn'd out of their own ancient testimonies ...
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Crisp, Thomas, 17th cent.
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1697
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the holy Lives and Works of Saints are not excluded The thirteenth Query Is the Righteousness wrought by the Saints every way answerable to the Justice of God I say Nay They answer Is there any Righteousness but that of Jesus Christ And is not that every way answerable to the Justice of God The Righteousness of Christ we own and witness hereby squintingly making the Saints obedience to be the Satisfaction to Gods Justice and so Christ dyed in vain unless as they say he was a Figure or Example or as somtimes they imply to take away the guilt of Adam's Act. The fourteenth Query Is none accounted Righteous in God's sight in whom there is any failing or doth not fulfil the Law and answer every Demand of Justice I answer Yea in and for Christ's sake But they say God doth not accept any where there is any failing or that doth not fulfil the Law and answer every Demand of Justice But this is the directest and plainest Answer I find of all the twenty By this Answer as by some of the former they seem to me to exclude God's Mercy in forgiving or Pardoning Sin and also make void or useless the Suffering Blood and Death of our Lord Jesus on the Cross without us for if they can and do as their Answer implies fulfil the Law and answer every Demand of Justice and have not any failing in them what need have they of Forgiveness or of Christ's Death and Blood as a Sacrifice for them or to sanctifie them For if I am able to pay my own Debts I have no need of another to do it for me nay if I am not if another is able and willing if my Creditor will not or doth not accept his Payment for me then I am not benefitted as their Answer implies But the first part of their Answer seems to make useless or that there is no need of the latter for if as they say God doth not accept any where there is any failing then what hath Justice to do with such For the Law is not for the Righteous but for Sinners Also hereby they maintain as rigid a Satisfaction as any whom they pretend to oppose and the difference between them and the Protestant Ministers is chiefly about the Person who makes the Satisfaction or answers the Demands of Justice The Quakers imply the Sinner Man for it is such is intended in the Query by the word any any Man or Person and the Protestants make our Lord Jesus of Nazareth as he was both God and Man in one Person without us to be He who fulfils the Law and Answers the Demands of Justice for us and in our stead But if as they imply by their Answer they have no failing they may appear boldly without an Advocate or Mediator for that within them is the only Principle and Foundation and admits not of any other as they say no not the Blood nor Offering of the Body of Jesus of Nazareth shed outwardly on the Cross but that within even their not having any failing in them but answering every Demand of Justice and their fulfilling the Law themselves and not our Christ or our Lord Jesus for them is their Intercessor Mediator and Reconciler and Christ within them and they as aforesaid have no need of him or any thing of his on that account The fifteenth Query Is a Soul Justified by the Non-Imputation of Sin and the Imputation of the Righteousness of the Person of Christ Or by a Righteousness wrought by Christ in the Person c. I say Not by that wrought in the Person but by the Non-Imputation or not charging the Sin but by the Imputation of the Personal Righteousness of Christ received or laid hold on by a living Faith They Answer I own no Righteousness but what is of Christ and wrought by him plainly implying it 's that wrought in the Saints is the procuring Cause of Justification and not Christ's Personal Obedience and Sufferings for they say I own no Righteousness but that of Christ wrought by him it 's very squinting but if you consider the terms in the Query Wrought by him in the Person Justified now you see their Answer hath that term Wrought by him altho' they leave out them words In the Person Justified yet their Answer implies that is their meaning else why do they rail so and say It 's a heap of Confusion from the bottomless Pit c The sixteenth Query is Is Christ in the Saints in respect of that Nature he suffered in at Jerusalem I say Nay understanding it the Manhood But they revile and answer nothing to purpose The seventeenth Query How may Christ be said to be in a Saint and not in a Reprobate I answer By a lively Faith Governing the whole Man and rendring the Faculties and Senses subject to him Body and Soul and Spirit being his and so he is not in the Reprobate But they rail and not answer The eighteenth Query Doth Christ now take on him our Flesh Doth not this Assumption cause such a perfection of the Godhead and Manhood that both are United into one Person I say No. But they answer Do'st thou limit Christ to Days in taking on him the form of a Servant Is not he now the same as ever he was The perfect Union with Christ we witness who is the same to day yesterday and for ever They squintingly imply That Christ and they be but one Person as in Jesus of Nazareth and they God and Man as he was for say they The Perfect Union we witness as farther appears For the Ministers say Far be it from us to think Christ is equally God incarnate in that Son of Mary and in all Saints This Fox falsly cites Great Mystery p. 22. but opposes and in answer says Fox The Scripture says He is the Everlasting Father and his Name is called The Emanuel God with us And their opposing this Doctrine and quoting it as an Error implies that they do believe that they have the same Union of or in their Natures as was in with or between the Divine Nature and Manhood of our Lord Jesus and therefore says that Pagan-like Foxonian Preacher Isaac Penington Doth not the Name belong to every Member as well as to the Head And Fox's opposing the Ministers and their now above Answer to this eighteenth Query implies the same That Jesus of Nazareth was no other ways Christ but as they be only more because he had more of the Spirit in him And thus it is that they own Christ as he was Man as they say that is as he was in all Ages and is now in them the Light and they one Spirit with him and he one with them as he was with all Saints in all Ages and so by that Oneness he was and is Man and they by the same Figure be Christ as appears by Fox's opposing and squintingly Answering to the Ministers and this their afore Answer to the Query And on charging them to
I think seeing there is neither Comma nor Parenthesis to separate them words that's Crucified from the afore going and the following word within as is in page 131. I may conclude that G. Fox undervalues the Crucifying of our Lord Jesus of Nazareth without and publish that his i. e. Christ Crucifying was within Man only Thus by their own Judgment Fox is guilty of undervaluing the Crucifying of our Lord Jesus which I think amounts to as much as contemning them Therefore they have made him guilty of my Charge And altho' he Fox's Answers here and elsewhere be so squinting and two-fac'd that it 's difficult to prove any Charge against him in plain and clear express words of his but by what he opposes but herein not only his contempts of our Lord Jesus but his wicked Forgery is manifest and my Charge proved And by these and a few more proofs I have given in my Essay to allay G. Fox's Spirit and my Discovery c. inlarged These Quakers Errors and wicked Forgeries are fully prov'd but I hope I shall publish these and many more others But whereas Fox by His Forgery falsly represents this good Christian J. Bunyan as being against Christ's being within his People to prove that false and that as I aforesaid he does not oppose it but own it He says in the same Book The cause of Believers Hope is this Christ or the Spirit of Christ in them Again says he Some looking only on what Christ hath done and suffered without them resting in an Historical Faith of it without looking for the Spirit of Jesus to come into their Hearts without which they cannot rightly believe in Christ without them This proves these Quakers had no cause to oppose him on that score but his discovering their Errors and bearing witness to and for our Lord Jesus of Nazareth as being God's Christ did torment the wicked Spirit in Fox c. And through them cast out Floods of Forgery and false Accusation against him as in E. B.'s Works page 139. say they Thus much is the mind of the Pen-man's Spirit secretly smiting at the Doctrine of the true Faith Christ within and directing altogether without and afar off But what 's afore cited of J. B.'s proves these Quakers wicked Slanderers This may serve for Answer to their Book Entituled An Antidote c. A pretended Answer to The Snake in the Grass c. But that worthy Author hath in that Book and his Satan Disrob'd c. drove them out of their lurking holes only one i. e. Their Errors are so gross that it 's a shame to confute them Now H. Goldny W. Sanders c. do not call me Impudent Fellow as you did J. Pennyman on full Change without his speaking ever a word to you nor be not so envious against me as you were against the Christian Quaker D. S. for his Answer to F. B. on your behalf For in your Book Rabshekah c. I have leave to Print But if this envious Foxonian Spirit should be so powerful in you as it was in your Pope Penn and Cardinal Whitehead against G. K. and you should as they were be transported with Malice and declare me an Apostate in the Name of the Lord and curse me and blasphemously put to it Thus saith the Lord as they did yet I trust Christ without me will save me from your rage that you will not be suffered to serve me as Mr. Young the Minister lately was serv'd and that not by Thieves but some envious one like you and I hear he was threatened by one of your Foxonians and it s doubted was accordingly procured to be done to him Therefore if any such mischief befal me I am satisfied it will be by some of your procuring who walk in the steps of your Elder Sister Rome in many things and so may in this to procure them who discover your wickedness to be served as Justice Arnold was formerly But otherways let all your Foxonian Priests and Men of War in the Dragon Fox's Army Penn and Whitehead c. curse me and cry aloud to your God that wicked envious Foxonian Spirit from Morning unto Evening against me as your Fore-Fathers did I fear you not for my Trust is in my Lord Jesus of Nazareth without me whom you Foxonians have blasphemously contemned and under-valued yet I know the vile Person will speak Villany and his Heart will work Iniquity to practice Hypocrisie and to utter Error against the Lord but the great Corruption of Priests i. e. Foxonians is cause sufficient to separate from them This is their own Doctrine therefore all who be honest-minded Depart I pray you from the Tents of these wicked Men W. P. and G. W. c. your Chief Priests lest you be consumed in their Sins Postscript I Think it 's not unnecessary to give you some Passages out of the Copy of a Letter I have by me which was wrot about two years since SIR I Am glad to find some of our Clergy concerned in the Controversie with the Quakers considering the high Concernment it is of it being about the Foundation of the Christian Religion and as it 's the peculiar Duty of the Pastors to earnestly contend for the Faith And as I hear Mr Bugg who hath so eminently expos'd himself to their Fury is become a Member of our Church and thereby hath put himself under her Protection and she ought to take care of him And altho' the Quakers defame him with many reproachful Characters but do not as I find prove any matter of evil Fact against him or Heretical Principle but because he detects their Errors yet they brand him with the infamous Name of Apostate c. whereby I think they not only defame him but scandalize our Church and it affects not him only but all the Members thereof and the disadvantage thereby is not only the scandal but the hinderance it must be to deter others who may be willing to return to the True Faith and Church also Therefore I think if some Eminent and Powerful appeared in his behalf not espousing any miscarriage in his Management if any such be it would be a Check to their Insolency and encourage his Discovery For in their Answer to the Queries they do not give Dr. Lancaster those foul terms as formerly they had done to Men of his Character on such Occasions which I cannot ascribe to any change in their Judgment or Spirit but their Tongues are ty'd by their Interest they know with whom they have to do I take the boldness to impart my thoughts of the Reasonableness and advantage it may be for some Eminent in our Church to concern themselves against the Heresies and Scandals of these Quakers besides what I have above hinted 1. They i. e. the Quakers are as they say in their Book Intituled Innocency Triumphant Printed 1693. page 30. By Divine Providence Recognized by the Government as Protestants so that the Protestants of England are