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B02463 A modest apology occasioned by the importunity of the Bishop of Derrie, who presseth for an answer to a query, stated by himself, in his second admonition: concerning joyning in the publick worship established by law. In answer to the query, the pondering of some weighty exceptions is first desired: and then such a resolution is given to the query, as the word of God, and thereby the safety of our consciences will allow. / By a minister of the gospel, at the desire of some Presbyterian dissenters. Craghead, Robert.; King, William, 1650-1729. 1696 (1696) Wing C6794; ESTC R171586 54,814 122

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desiring so● Knowledge of a Ministers Gifts and godly Co●versation before they receive him as their Pasto● 2. The possibility of their erring in Election ca●not deprive them of their Priviledge 3. If th● should erre yet their Electing maketh not t● Man their Minister untill he be Ordained a● if the People have erred then the Ministers m● forbear Ordination untill a qualified Person ● Chosen And so both Ministers and People pre●rve their due Rights And where this is not ●bserved it commonly occasioneth an unprofi●ble Ministry and Comfortless both to Minister ●nd People 6. We cannot be of that Communion where ●ur Confession of Faith and Catechisms are publick● on all Occasions ridiculed and exposed to Con●mpt Is it to be imagined that your selves would ●atiently sit and hear the most important Articles ●f your Religion openly vilified And if ye could ●ot bear it your selves why should ye expect it ●f us Who have Cause to Praise GOD for so Orthodox a summary of the Christian Religion ●s is contain'd in these Books Is it reasonable to ●hink that by our Presence and Silence we should ●ppear to approve the condemning the publick ●tandard of our Religion Your selves being ●udges 7. We are so perswaded of tbe soundness of the Doctrine contained in our Confession of Faith ●nd Catechisms Larger and Shorter that where●oever these are contradicted we have just Cause ●o suspect the hearing of unsound Doctrine and are ●equired by the Word of GOD not to hear the In●truction that causeth to erre from the words of Know●edge We know that the Doctrinal Articles of the Church of Engl. are Sound and we Challenge a●y Man that dare say we ever speak of them but with a due regard And it were much to be ●sired that all who make Profession of these A●cles would faithfully Adhere to them in their D●ctrine But in the next Place some Alledge that thou● we be not free to Joyn as fixed Members of t● Established Church nor could we be received such without Subjection to Episcopal Goverment their Discipline and Ceremonies Y● why should we be so shy as not to hear their Mi●sters at any time we being all of one Faith That the Reader may have Satisfaction Consider First that we are not as Scepticks w● have either their Religion or manner of Worsh● to seek as not knowing what Church-Commu●on to chuse For we are both in Judgement a● Practice established already what manner of Wo●ship we should Adhere to And therefore need ● expose our selves as unfixed Some of your sel● have reproved severely these who are of itch● Ears and the Rebuke is directed to us of this Di●cess We shall advert to what he hath said a● beware of that Evil hoping that while we are c●tent with hearing of our own we shal not be cha●ed with that Guilt of itching for others 2. We desire also it may be remembred t● some of yours particularly Dr. Stilling fleet n● Bishop hath Published his Reflections aga● those of our Communion who at sometimes ● ● hear and Joyn in your Worship Because they ●ntinue not making this the Argument that if we ●ink it Lawfull at sometimes why not at other ●mes and that Constant Communion is due where ●ccasional Communion is allowed But another ●f a great Character in the Defence of his Answer ●o the Case of Protestant Dissenters stated and ar●ed though under the covert of anothers Name ●ath raised the Censure to such a pitch that they ●ppear to be Men of flexible and profligat Conscien●es who at sometimes Joyn in Worship with the ●stablished Church not Resolving to Continue ●ow then can you advise us to Occasional Com●union If it be not for this Reason that you ●ay take Occasion to Reproach us as Men of no ●rinciples who will turn and return with the Tide ●f Worldly Interest But belike you may have the ●ss Occasion for this Imputation hereafter this ●eing the best Use ye make of it Can any Man ●f sence judge it a rational Method for drawing us ●o your Communion at any time to tell us it must ●e always otherwise we are but Men of a profligat Conscience It would hereby appear that you desire none of us to come near you and discharge us to Joyn in your Worship as we would not be Stigmatized the next day for profligat Persons 3. Whereas it 's said we are of one Faith it 's well this is acknowledged and long may it be so But some Observe that this is rarely Confessed except when you mind to improve it for an Imp●ta●ion that being of one Faith we are thereby o●liged to Conformity and wilfully Obstinat in ●fusing it As if our being of one Faith engag● us to any manner of Worship you require Co●manded of GOD or not But it may be inferr● with greater Reason since we are of the sa● Faith therefore you should make the Door P●tent and admit us freely and not to cast the stu●bling Blocks of unprofitable Ceremonies in o● Way Which your Selves Know and Confess m● be laid aside without Sin But such as we cann● Comply with without Sin yet you will not pa● with one of these useless Ceremonies if we shou● never come nearer you But in the last Place that which is urged as mo● plausible when it appears we cannot be fix● Members of your Communion and are not ple●ed but rather angry at Occasional Communio● that at least when People want Ministers of th● own as many of them do often want why do n● they then go to the Parish Church why do n● your Ministers positively declare their Opinio● For Answer to this Consider First That it is the Affliction of many Feare● of GOD to want the Benefit of publick Gospe● Ordinances every Lords Day we say it's the● Affliction but cannot so easily grant that it is th● Sin when their circumstantiat Case is such th● ●t sometimes they must either want or Wound ●heir Conscience by Joyning in Acts of Worship ●hich they cannot find to be approved of GOD They dare not act as joint Worshippers in these ●ery Acts lest they not only partake of other Mens Sins but be active in sinning themselves Such as are in this Case are rather to be pitied than ●ensured Bishop Stilling fleet hath these remark●ble words in his Irenic page 119. 120. Let Men ●urn and wind themselves which Way they will by ●●e very same Arguments that any will Prove Sepa●ation from the Church of Rome lawfull because She ●quired unlawfull Things as Conditions of Her Com●union It will be proved Lawfull not to Conform ●o any suspected or unlawfull Practice required by my Church-Governour upon the same Terms If the ●●ing so required be after Serious and Sober Enquiry ●dged Vnwarrantable by a Man 's own Conscience Grant but this Liberty allowed by this Learned ●ishop to forbear any Suspected or Unlawfull ●ractice though required by a Church-Gover●our And then you will be more sparing in Condemning the Practice of sober Christians whose great
that is given to us whither Prophecy let ● Prophecy according to the proportion of Faith or Min●stry let us wait on our Ministry or he that Teache● on Teaching or he that Exhorteth on Exhortation ● that Giveth let him do it with Simplicity he that Ru●eth with Diligence he that sheweth Mercy with Chee●fulness Ephes 4. 11. And he gave some Apostles an● some Prophets and some Evangelists and some P●stors and Teachers for the perfecting of the Saints f● the Work of the Ministry for the Edifieing of the B●dy of Christ As for any other Scriptures alledged to favour th● Episcopal Cause they shall be considered in thei● due place But these Scriptures now mentione● are the places that all Church-Officers do ordinarily betake themselves unto who are willing t● have their Commission and Title tryed by th● Word of GOD because by them we are particula●ly instructed Who they are whom GOD hath s● in his Church and in what order as first second●rily c. now let the Reader demonstrate a Bisho● over Presbyters by any of these Scriptures and ●e shall not want reverence let him appear and ●ell us plainly where he fixeth his claim for he will ●ot for Truth and Modesties sake challenge all ●hese Offices and Gifts to be his and some of them ●eing now out of his reach and ceased as Mi●acles Gifts of Healing and Diversities of Tongues ●t's agreed that all these may be laid aside from ●his Debate as Extraordinary Some of the Offi●es mentioned are too low for a Bishop being the ●owest Set of Church Officers as Deacons under ●he Denomination of Helps giving with Simplicity ●nd Cheerfulness neither will these be concerned ●n this Debate We shall come then to the Highest and First in ●he Roll the Apostles being set down first and Bi●hops now the First and Highest in the Church ●ere some of them fix their Claim as Successors ●o the Apostles and plead it with all earnestness ●ut no successe for lack of Arguments and the ●eight of Arguments against it and that VVe be ●ot amused with big and ambiguous Words not ●nderstood We crave that Justice of those who ●aintain this Apostolick succession to let us know ●hat they understand by it if it be that Prelats ●● the Gospel-Church have succeded to the intire ●ffice of Apostles or 2d if they have fucceded un●o the Doctrine of the Apostles or 3d. unto such ●ospel-Administrations performed by the Apostles as were necessary to continue in the Gosp● Church as Preaching administration of Sacrame● Discipline c. or 4th if by Apostolick Succ●sion they understand Apostolick Institution T● is such as have Commission from Christs Apostl● to Feed his Flock If the first of these be affirmed that Bishops ●ver Presbyters succeed to the Apostles intire Off● Then First we have many moe Apostles than e● Christ did Institute for all Diocesan Bishops m● be Apostles 2. Then they have all immediat Commissi● from Christ as all the Apostles had For we m● see that when one Apostle was wanting the Det●mination who should fill his Room the imme●at Decision thereof was left to GOD by Lots ● Acts 1. When Mathias was appointed to take p● of the Apostleship from which Judas fell by Tra●gression This manner of Election our Bishops w● not pretend 3. If Bishops Succeed to the very Office a● Commission of Apostles then they are infallible Doctrine and may write Canonick Scriptu● which their modesty will not challenge 4. If Bishops succeed the Apostles Office th● shall all lose their Diocesses for the Apostles ● no Diocess but the wide World they had no li●ted Bounds but the Bishop is restricted by L● limited Bounds for as Diocesan his Power exten●eth no further then the circumscribed Diocess ●hereof he is Bishop Secondly If it be said that Apostolick Successi● is by succeeding to their Doctrine then all Gos●el-Ministers have the same claim for they also reach the same Doctrine feeding the Flock with ●e same sincere Milk of the Word So that e●ery faithfull Gospel-Pastor preaching sound Do●rine neither Corrupting Diminishing nor Ad●ing to the Word of GOD may put in his Claim ●r this Kind of Succession And that with great● confidence than such as make Additions of do●rinal significative Ceremonies of their own In●ention For the third manner of Succession to these Go●el-Administrations which were to continue in the ●urch tho' performed by the Apostles Consider ● First That all Gospel-Ministers partake equal● of that manner of Succession As they are Pa●rs entrusted by Christ with the feeding of his ●ock Let the Maintainers of imparity among ●ospel-Ministers shew a Difference or what Mi●sterial Acts are reserved to some and denied to ●hers 2. These Gospel-Administrations now to be ●erformed by the ordinary Pastors of the Church ●ke not their Original Authority from the Apo●olick Office but from Christs Commission and Precepts to the Pastors of his Church to perfo● these Ministerial Acts the Pastor being a disti● Officer in the House of GOD dependeth not ● the Apostolick Office nor is there any need for ● Because the Pastor hath his Commission disti● from the Office of an Apostle though the matt● of their Administrations in some things coincid● yet that maketh not the two distinct Offices coi●cide the Pastors Office being entire by it self the Gospel Charter Fourthly If by Apostolick Succession be mea● only Apostolick Institution that is that these a● the Apostles Successors whom the Apostles d● Institute and Appoint to be the Pastors of t● Church This manner of Succession we ackno●ledge to be most firm and therefore whosoev● can instruct their Office in the Church to be Apostolick Institution have the true Right a● Title and therefore shall now most willingly jo● Issues for its Trial knowing that Bishops ov● Presbyters were never instituted by the Apostl● as shall hereafter appear Object Some Bishops can draw the line of ●piscopal Succession from the Apostles days un● this day Answ A line of Episcopal Succession that is the Succession of Diocesan Bishops for its Bisho● of that new Cut Model who are concern'd this Debate such a Line of Succession can no M● draw from the Apostles Times The Reason is ob●ious because there were no Diocesses and there●ore no Diocesan Bishops long after the Apostles ●imes For the first three Centuries the Church was under Heathnish Persecutors incapable of a●y Diocess for a Bishop and therefore Euseb commonly calleth the Bishop a Bishop of a Parish the Church knew not what a Diocess was before Con●tantin appeared and then began to follow the Mode of the Civil Government 2. Tho' a Line of Succession could be drawn from the Apostles Times that is of Scriptural Bishops having no greater Charge then they could personally oversee Yet as this maketh nothing for Diocesan-Bishops so it proveth nothing of Apostolick Succession because a Succession from the Apostles Times can never prove a Succession to the Apostolick Office the one cannot infer the other Object Some Apostles came
of our Excep●g against the Sign of the Cross that thereby ●pists are hardened in their Idolatries besides ●eir using of it as a common Charm in most of ●eir Actions Sacred or Civil When they observe ●y of the Reformed Churches still Retaining and ●sing that Sign are ready to take Comfort to ●emselves as if their own Crime were not great ●d as it is an occasion of hardning them in their ●ay so it proveth an Offence and Grief to many ●earers of GOD who dare not for fear of offen●ng GOD Comply with it accounting the use ● it in the Worship of GOD an high Encroach●ent on the Prerogative of Our LORD and Law●ver This is it which made a German Divine la●ent over us that the Cross stuck among us in the be●ining of our Reformation saying it proved a Crux a ●oss and Grief indeed to many Godly Ministers and ●eople And were there no other Bar in the Way ● many this of it self would block up their Way ●om Conforming 5. By the Sign of the Cross the Honour due to Christ Crucified is transferred from H● and conferred upon a piece of Wood Whic●●vidently appeareth by Papists directing t● Prayers to the Cross it self Bellarmin saith t● are three Things signified by the Cross 1. Lign● 2. Imago 3. Imago in aere efformata ● would think the meaning of the first mi● suffice to render the tvvo following use for it being but a stick with what Face can a R●gious Image be made of it And an Image in Air appeareth a meer Chimera for nondum for● formando evanescit in auras but the Honour con●red on the Cross by others who are not Pap● appears to be founded on the Misapplicatio● these Scriptures where the Cross is mentioned First By the Cross is signified the Death Christ as Gal. 6. 14. so also it signifieth the ●ctrine of Christ as in the 12th verse of the same Sometimes by the Cross is signified the Aff●ons that the Followers of Christ shall suffer fo● Names Sake as Matth. 10. 38. it signifieth also material Wood or Tree upon which Christ suffe● so Matth. 27. 32. Now to apply that whi● spoken of Christs Death Doctrine c. to piece of Wood cannot be justified The Cro● Christ is mentioned with Honour therefore piece of Wood is honourably mentioned is a●ced Consequence Though all Honour be d● Him who dyed upon the Cross yet no Ho● ● be due to the Cross it self or its aery Repre●tation but rather the contrare as a passive In●ument of his Sufferings The Papists specially ● Commentators on Thom. their Angelicus Do●r say that Fundamentum Cultus Crucis quia tetigit ●rpus Christi the Foundation of the Crosses Wor●p is because it touched the Body of Christ a ●ifull Foundation for such a Stucture but such ●undation such Building if that which touch● Christs Body can Found either Worship or a● Religious Deference then as some Divines ob●ve why not also the Spear that pierced that Pre●us Body for that was nearer to it than the ●oss Why not the Nails that pierced his Hands ●d Feet These also were nearer than the Tree ● it imaginable that a true Lover of Christ could ● hold that Spear or these Nails without Indigna●n rather then any Love or Regard to them ● we say of the Cross our blessed Redeemer was ●t to Open Shame and Ignominy before the ●orld by his Dying on a Tree that being an ac●rsed Death what deference then can be due to ●at Tree which was a passive Instrument of his ●nominy his malicious Enemies desiring He ●ight be Crucified because it was a painful shame●ll Death There being several other ways allow● by the Roman Laws for executing the Con●mned And that He thus Dyed by the de●rminat Counsel of GOD saith nothing as to the Malice of those who sought His shame nor ● it be said that the Tree was sanctified by touchi● of his blessed Body no more than the Spear Nails no more than the cursed Lips of Judas ● the contact of Christs blessed Lips when he K●sed him And therefore We may safely conclu● that no Deference is due to that Tree or its aery ●mage 6. This also maketh our Exception against t● Sign of the Cross appear the more Just and R●tional because when this Sign is used it 's sa● to be a Token that the Person so signed hereaft● he shall not be ashamed to Confess the Faith Christ Crucified and Manfully to Fight under ● Banner This we except against because there no Ground to believe that such an Effect as t● Manfull Fighting shall attend the said Sign b●B●cause First The Sign it self cannot produce this ●fect having no inherent Power or Virtue to pr●duce it This will be acknowledged by all P●testants though Bellarm lib 2. de Imaginibus ca● 30. Saith that the Cross hath an efficacious Power p●pria Virtute opere operato but our Friends of ●nother Perswasion will not Joyn with him in thi● 2. Since the Sign of the Cross of it self hath inherent Power and Virtue to produce this Effe● that such as are signed by it shall Fight manful● c. then this Efficacy must be by some Promis● GOD to the Sign of the Cross but no such P●mise can be made appear in the Book of GOD for ●OD did never either Command the Sign of the ●ross to be used nor promised any Blessing by it 3. If it be said that such a Blessing is hopeful● expected because the Sign of the Cross is used ●or a good End Answ But if there be no Ground ●or our Hope and no Foundation from GOD for ●uch Expectation then the Hope is vain Seing ● cannot be expected in Faith 2. Suppose it be ●or a good End that the Sign of the Cross is U●ed yet that is not sufficient For Gospel-Admi●istrations must have Gospel-Rules And Holy Ex●ectations must be Founded on the Promises of GOD. 4. The signing with the Cross is said to be a To●en that the Person so signed shall not be ashamed c. this importeth no less then that this Token ●or Sign is so sure that it 's signatum viz. that he ●hall manfully Fight shall follow the Sign otherwise why is it said that this is a Token he shall manfully Fight as to the Event whereas it 's found by manifold Experience that this not being ashamed of Christ Crucified and manfull Fighting doth not always attend the Sign of the Cross for many such has turned Atheists and Apostats 5. If it be said that the Sign of the Cross is only an obliging Sign that the Person so signed must not be ashamed of Christ crucified c. Answ 1. There is great Difference between these two he shall not be ashamed and he should not or ● not be ashamed the first engageth the Futur● of that which is betokened that it shall be a● the second is but a meer Declaration of Duty 2. The Person baptized according to Christs ●stitution is thereby sufficiently obliged as