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A27112 Certamen religiosum, or, A conference between the late King of England and the late Lord Marquesse of Worcester concerning religion together with a vindication of the Protestant cause from the pretences of the Marquesse his last papers which the necessity of the King's affaires denyed him oportunity to answer. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657? 1651 (1651) Wing B1507; ESTC R23673 451,978 466

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clear_o appear_v in_o young_a infant_n this_o same_o author_n also_o again_o lay_v down_o this_o conclusion_n 8._o reprobation_n whereby_o god_n determine_v not_o to_o give_v eternal_a life_n to_o some_o and_o to_o suffer_v they_o to_o sin_n be_v not_o conditional_a but_o absolute_a neither_o do_v it_o presuppose_v in_o god_n the_o foreknowledge_n or_o foresight_n of_o the_o ill_a desert_n of_o the_o reprobate_n or_o of_o his_o perseverance_n in_o sin_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n 11._o and_o again_o neither_o actual_a sin_n nor_o original_a nor_o both_o together_o foresee_v of_o god_n be_v the_o meritorious_a cause_n or_o motive_n of_o any_o one_o reprobation_n in_o respect_n of_o all_o the_o effect_n of_o it_o ibid._n and_o
and_o who_o have_v be_v his_o counsellor_n rom._n 11._o 34._o the_o last_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o marquesse_n object_v be_v ezech._n 33._o 11._o as_o i_o live_v say_v the_o lord_n i_o delight_v not_o in_o the_o death_n of_o a_o sinner_n now_o to_o this_o also_o we_o have_v alvarez_n to_o answer_v for_o we_o viz._n first_o that_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o spiritual_a death_n which_o be_v by_o sin_n which_o 5._o god_n do_v only_o permit_v but_o do_v not_o delight_n in_o it_o and_o this_o explication_n he_o say_v be_v confirm_v by_o the_o word_n follow_v but_o rather_o that_o he_o be_v convert_v and_o live_v and_o if_o it_o be_v expound_v of_o the_o second_o death_n which_o be_v eternal_a damnation_n the_o meaning_n he_o say_v be_v that_o god_n will_v not_o inflict_v this_o upon_o any_o but_o for_o sin_n but_o though_o god_n will_v not_o inflict_v damnation_n upon_o the_o reprobate_n but_o for_o sin_n yet_o this_o same_o alvarez_n as_o i_o have_v show_v abundant_o before_o 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by_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o alvarez_n it_o make_v not_o against_o god_n decree_n of_o reprobation_n which_o we_o maintain_v it_o have_v also_o be_v show_v before_o in_o what_o sense_n god_n will_v have_v none_o to_o perish_v viz._n by_o his_o antecedent_n will_v with_o which_o yet_o will_v stand_v the_o decree_n of_o reprobation_n as_o we_o hold_v it_o which_o likewise_o have_v be_v show_v and_o that_o from_o both_o bellarmine_n and_o from_o alvarez_n also_o and_o that_o god_n desire_v sinner_n may_v come_v to_o repentance_n and_o so_o to_o life_n protestant_n that_o i_o know_v do_v not_o deny_v though_o they_o hold_v that_o god_n do_v give_v and_o so_o from_o all_o eternity_n do_v purpose_n to_o give_v repentance_n unto_o some_o and_o not_o to_o other_o as_o he_o please_v which_o i_o have_v also_o show_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o bellarmine_n alvarez_n estius_n and_o other_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a by_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n if_o 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unbelief_n if_o they_o do_v believe_v shall_v be_v save_v but_o yet_o nevertheless_o not_o protestant_n only_a but_o papist_n also_o as_o i_o have_v show_v do_v hold_v that_o god_n from_o all_o eternity_n do_v decree_n and_o purpose_n to_o give_v faith_n unto_o some_o and_o not_o unto_o other_o and_o that_o mere_o of_o his_o own_o will_n and_o pleasure_n and_o that_o therefore_o according_a to_o austin_n who_o word_n be_v cite_v before_o the_o prime_a and_o supreme_a cause_n why_o some_o be_v not_o save_v be_v not_o because_o they_o will_v not_o but_o because_o god_n will_v not_o for_o that_o which_o ambrose_n have_v in_o the_o last_o place_n who_o will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v etc._n etc._n enough_o have_v be_v say_v before_o to_o show_v that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o austin_n and_o diverse_a romanist_n it_o be_v nothing_o against_o the_o absolute_a decree_n of_o reprobation_n and_o so_o i_o have_v do_v with_o this_o point_n in_o the_o next_o place_n the_o marquesse_n 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