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A18437 An answere to a seditious pamphlet lately cast abroade by a Iesuite with a discouerie of that blasphemous sect. By William Charke. Charke, William, d. 1617.; Francke, Christian, b. 1549. Colloquium Jesuiticum. English. 1580 (1580) STC 5005; ESTC S119230 29,644 72

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important he notwithstāding promiseth himselfe without doubt as hauing y e disposition of their hearts in his hande that they also will at last for their own soules for many thousand soules that depend vpō their gouernmēt discoūtenāce the religiō hearken vnto Papistry He would not beforehand make this promise which is his chiefe purpose drawe the multitude to expect backsliding in their honors if he did not highly esteeme his owne basenesse basely iudge of their excellēcie But how doth this inconstant Iesuite still giue in one line and take away in another Haue her Maiesties most honorable Counsell wisdome in cases most importāt are they without wisdome in the most importāt cause of religiō which more thē al other causes importeth them for their owne soules many thousande soules beside Without this wisdom of God in the Gospell there is no wisedome in the wisest men of the worlde Then the Iesuite withdrawing from their honors this wisdome he attributeth to them a wisedome which is no wisedome and so his praises are no praises But he findeth in their wise gouernment feeleth their wisedome to bee according to knowledge their knowledge ioyned with zeale according to y e reuealed trueth which they vnder her Maiestie mainteine to Gods glory y e cutting off of Popish enterprises to the contrary Wherefore y e ages that shal come after shall witnes for her Maiestie for them that in singular wisdom they haue restored mainteined the glorious Gospell of Iesus Christ blessedly withstoode the flatteries of Iesuites and the violence of the vnholy fathers army that would in Englād set vp the beast that must be throwen downe into the nethermost hel neuer rise againe whose feareful fall will draw with it the fall of as many as depend vpō her yeeld their seruice to her notwithstanding her intolerable pride bloody fornications Moreouer this Iesuite writeth to their honor without regard of their honors For as if they had no eyes to see nor hearts to consider what may be and what hath bene said for Popish religion he wil now open the questions of religion so faithfully that their honors shall see the substantiall groundes whereon the Popish faith is builded Haue all other Iesuites wanted learning Haue euen this Champions masters wanted strength in the field and dexteritie in their enterprises To heale the woundes of the beast are all other Phisitions Phisitions of no valew Thus we see how this Iesuite chargeth the Lordes as not hauing their eyes yet open to see what religion is and also noteth the wantes of his masters that haue not done that himselfe will vndertake But to performe all these promises he must not alledge the authoritie of his oracle for the oracle himself may sooner with Atlas beare the weight of the worlde vpon his shoulders then mainteine so great a quarell as is the defense of the Romish Church against the Gospel of God as is the maynteining of the worldly kingdome of the Pope against the spirituall and mightie kingdome of Iesus Christ After these things he returneth to his slaunders against the preachers of the worde charging them that they huddle vp and confounde questions of religion But whatsoeuer the Iesuite thus casteth out in malicious false termes God bath blessed the preachers of the Gospell with worthie gifts and a pure forme of preaching agreeable to the puritie of the Gospel which they professe So that if our aduersaries their giftes come to a right examination it shall appeare to al men that if Papists haue learning so we also if they haue order and methode so wee also if they haue giftes to perswade we much more vpon more excellent groundes And which is more then all whereas they preach men we preache God whereas they preache error we preache the trueth not according to men but according to the foundation of the holy Prophets and Apostles Christ Iesus being the head corner stone As for Antiquitie Fathers Coūcils we allowe them as farre as the worde of God doeth not disalowe them But if any oracle from heauen or consent of all the worlde teache or perswade any thing otherwise then we haue receiued in the word we subscribe to the sentence alreadie pronounced by Saint Paul and registred in his holy Epistle to the Galathians What kinde of new preaching these new Iesuites bring I know not but if they followe the veine of their forefathers the auncient Friers then I know that they wil draw byase whether they huddle or no. The worlde is yet full of volumes wherein their sermons are penned downe but with matter so ridiculous and Latine so barbarous that all bookes written to make sport must giue place to them From charging the preachers he proceedeth to charge y e sway of the time for preuayling against him and his The time is neither shorter nor longer better nor worse in it selfe therefore in this figuratiue speach he couertly chargeth the gouerners of the time Wherein he againe vttereth his murmuring repineth that his golden times so often calculated can yet take no place But blessed be the Lord that hath stretched out his arme the swaye and stroke whereof preuayleth against all enemies of the kingdome of Iesus Christ and let not their praises die for euer whome the Lord hath raysed vp to be his instruments in so glorious a worke As for the best blood in your bodies which you woulde spēd for their honors which of them require any such sacrifice at your hande who stand in neede of it In so euil a cause as the perswading of error what can it auaile If I may againe aduise you keepe it to preserue life it may be the Lord hath appointed a day for your true repentance that renouncing your former workes of merite and supererogation you may receiue y e loue of the trueth and builde your faith vpon the merites of Christ alone which shalbe your owne saluation And leaue to professe loue where you practise treason cease to promise the sheading of your blood willingly as in a good cause whereas experience hath lately shewed that you your confederates lost blood in a notorious euill cause But that was the mercy of God that watcheth ouer vs still to take the wicked in their wickednes which mercie shall watch ouer vs continually if we auoide the contempt of y t Gospel we professe and shewe our selues thankefull to his maiestie for so great mercies Againe the Iesuite flaunteth in words vaunteth of his innocent handes lifted vp to heauen euery day euery houre as for the good of their honours To make your hands no fowler then they are yet those innocent handes haue written no innocent bookes they haue cast abroade no innocent libels they helde out no innocent banner of Popish obedience in their actual rebellions heretofore in England presently in Ireland But if those handes may be innocent that haue done
last wordes of this article are in sound very plausible as the rest of his speeches pretending nothing but trueth in his false cause nothing but loue in his seditious pamphlet Therfore let them be examined Speaking of Popish religion he sayth it is of God A bare affirmation without any proofe So in all his letter he onely affirmeth referring vs to his credite whereas men would rather be caried w t reason But his reasōs are to be looked for whē he commeth to answere his chalenge Yet to answere him with a reason Poperie is not of God for then it could not haue receiued so great ouerthrowes only by the word of God Neither was y e Popish religion planted in blood neyther is it like whatsoeuer is layd downe in bragges that in blood these Iesuites or any other wil restore it Otherwise the wordes may haue this true construction Popish religion was planted in strength by sheading the blood abolishing the doctrine of the Martyrs in like sort they hope to restore it agayne By persecutions it preuayled at the first and by persecutions they looke to preuayle at the last But blessed be God that hath shewed y e vanitie of this hope by shewing in our daies that the blood of his Martyrs whose godly cause iustifie their godly death is the seede of the Church France Flanders and our owne countrey are wonderfull arguments of this if any man will descend into y e deepe cōsideration of the particulars If the Lord hath heretofore made Nebuchadnezzar his seruant to punish Israel it was not the power of Babel that did it but the sinnes of Ierusalem All such chastisements of the Church redound to the good of the Church and leaue wrath against those that rise vp against his people and the blood of his saints that is so precious in his eyes 9 In the last place he aggreueth the fault of her Maiesties most honorable priuy Coūsell if they will not receyue that which he doeth not offer For although his letters be full of promises and verball offers yet in trueth and deede he offreth nothing no not so much as these letters They were scattered abroade before any copie came to their handes so it appeareth that as he meant not to stand to the answere of his chalenge so he meant not so much as to sende the letters of chalenge whyther he woulde haue them thought to be directed Now after all stormes and other outrageous actes in this tragedie and imaginarie chalenge the Iesuite hauing charged y e Lords for their part if they reiect his offer reward his endeuours and pilgrimage of many thousande miles with rigour he for his part falleth to a calme conclusion Therein he promiseth hauing no more to say to recōmende our case and his owne to Almightie God the searcher of hearts and prayeth that in heauen we may be made friends This prayer if he will make from the heart we also will pray that through their cōuersion God may graunt it in Christ Iesus If he wil pray it in loue and trueth to that praier he shal haue our Amen But let euery man that speaketh well meane accordingly least the searcher of hearts finde out punish their hypocrisie His last wordes somewhat touch the former sore therefore must not be passed ouer with silence In being our remembrancer that in heauē all iniuries shalbe forgotten he couertly complaineth againe of iniuries The iniuries he susteineth he alone is guiltie of For what greater iniurie can be done to another thē he hath done vnto himself He hath departed frō the faith left his coūtrey refused y e protection of a gracious Prince with many other honours felicities as he declared in y e first article In him therfore y e cōplaint of iniuries is vniust but against him y e complaint not of iniuries alone but of seditions of heresie of impietie is very iust so y t he is to take heed hereafter vnto his steps least though al iniuries be forgottē in heauē yet for want of repentāce such iniquities receiue punishment in an other place Therefore briefly to see into al this matter to cōclude these letters of Ed. Campion y e Iesuite which were cast abroad w tout a directiō to comfort the Papists sweetely to feed them w t hope of a great cōquest against the religion are foūd vpon examination to sound a false Alarme hauing nothing for y e Papists to feede vpon but vaine hope or venim to satisfie a hart nourished w t reproches nothing to trust vnto but a broken reede that not yet in hand Touching the Protestants the same libel hath nothing that can either strike the least feare into them or cast the least discredite vpon them or their religion Notwithstanding against y e Papists and for the Protestants especially those in place further to consider it the pamphlet hath beside the vanitie many points discouering as well great mischiefe intended against her Maiesties peaceable and godly gouernement as against the heauenly and most fruitful preaching of y e Gospel Which mischiefe notwithstāding the Lord our God hath from time to time and lately wonderfully disappoynted that the Papists which will not heare what is taught out of the worde may see and consider what the Lord preacheth to them in those his notable iudgements and that we both Prince people so blessed of God woulde with new songs praise the Lord who is euermore good to Israel the Lord I say whose mercie and trueth endureth and preuaileth for euer Amen FINIS Reue. 18. 11. 2. Reg. 18. 36 Prou. 26. 4. Prou. 20. 23. 2. Tim. 2. 23. Tit. 3. 9 10. R. Maffeus in Iudam Watson and others at home Reuel 17. 2. Heb. 9. 26. 10. 12. 18. Iesuites Philip. 2. 9. Act. 11. 26. Exod. 8. 2. Censur Colon. Donati Gotuisi lib. de fide Iesu Iesuitarum Catechis Canisii Cic. offic 1. Apo. 18. 11. Apoc. 17. 5. 2. Thes 2. 4. His bulles His forces in Ireland Iere. 7. 22. Mat. 15. 9. Mat. 13. 46. Reuel 13. 16. His most insolent and malicious Bull. 1569. answered by M. Bullinger Prou. 26. 2. Galat. 1. 10. 3. Cor. 4. 5. Galat. 1. 8 9. Apoc. 16. 14. Acts. 16. 14. Gen. 19. 16. Colloquium Iesuiticum 2. Tim. 3. 8. Gen. 3. 1. Rom. 1. 16. Hebr. 10. 22 23. Apoc. 17. 4. Ion. 4. 23. 24 Iohn 8. 44. Mat. 12. 34. Mat. 4 6. Councils Fathers Stories 2. Tim. 3. 16. Psal 119. 130. Esai 11. 4. 2. Thes 2. 8. 1. Cor. 2. 14. Psal 51. 10. 1. Kin. 11. 5. 1. Kin. 3. 12. Mat. 16. 16. 2. Tim. 3. 16. Exod. 32. 1. 1. Tim. 3. 16. Canon lawe Sententiae Halleri ex decretis canon collectae Common lawe A treatise of the supremacie Also sermōs and bookes by Tunstall Gardiner Bonner and other papists against the Pope Reuel 14. 8. 18. 2. Friers and such like entring into their order are saide to die may make their will which is proued standeth in force as if they were dead Iam. 1. 8. Iere. 5. 2. Iosh 7. 10. Papinianus Ael Spartianus in vita Caracalli Horatius Quid dignū tanto feret hic promissor hiatu 2. King 18. 30. Ephes 4. 3. Col. 3. 14. 1. Cor. 2. 6 8. Rom 8. 5 6 7 Reue. 1●8 18. 21. Iob. 13. 4. Ephe. 2. 20 Gal. 1. 8 ● Phil. 3. 7. c. In Ireland 29. Nouemb. Iam. 4. 3. Phil. 37. c. Iohn 10. 11. heb 13. 20. Phil. 2. 17 30 Iere. 25. 9. 27. 6. Ier. 24. 7 8 9 Psal 116. 15.