Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n
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A91891
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The peoples plea for the exercise of prophesie. Against master John Yates his monopolie / by Iohn Robinson.
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Robinson, John, 1575?-1625.
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Wing R1696; Thomason E1093_1; ESTC R208638
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smother_v one_o truth_n under_o another_o for_o albeit_o the_o woman_n of_o corinâ—th_n be_v become_v so_o mannish_a as_o that_o they_o will_v prophesiâ—_z uncover_v and_o without_o their_o veil_n the_o ensign_n oâ—_z their_o subjection_n yet_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n meddle_v at_o all_o with_o that_o malady_n in_o this_o place_n but_o in_o the_o 11._o cha._n of_o the_o epistle_n as_o himself_o note_v here_o and_o in_o tim._n he_o simple_o forbid_v the_o thing_n there_o the_o manner_n of_o do_v it_o likewise_o for_o their_o being_n as_o forward_o to_o speak_v as_o their_o husband_n and_o in_o their_o preâ—ence_n it_o may_v be_v true_a in_o part_n and_o in_o some_o but_o what_o then_o do_v the_o apostle_n in_o these_o place_n only_o forbid_v their_o speak_v uncover_v and_o permit_v they_o to_o teach_v so_o it_o be_v veil_v or_o forbid_v he_o only_o their_o being_n as_o forward_o as_o their_o husband_n but_o give_v they_o leave_v to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n so_o it_o be_v with_o good_a manner_n and_o after_o their_o husbond_n which_o his_o answer_n insinuate_v or_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a to_o all_o that_o will_v not_o shut_v their_o eye_n that_o he_o simple_o and_o that_o severe_o inhibit_v they_o all_o speak_v whatsoever_o in_o this_o exercise_n be_v not_o the_o word_n plain_a enough_o let_v the_o woman_n keep_v silence_n in_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o they_o to_o speak_v but_o to_o be_v under_o obedience_n as_o the_o law_n say_v and_o again_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n for_o they_o to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o 1._o tim_n let_v the_o woman_n learn_v in_o silence_n with_o all_o subjection_n and_o i_o suffer_v not_o a_o woman_n to_o teach_v nor_o to_o usurp_v authority_n over_o the_o man_n but_o to_o be_v in_o subjection_n for_o adam_n be_v first_o form_v etc._n etc._n do_v not_o and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o reason_n bind_v woman_n to_o all_o â—eace_n and_o deep_a silence_n in_o the_o church_n yea_o to_o such_o â—d_fw-mi so_o absolute_a as_o that_o they_o may_v not_o so_o much_o as_o ask_v question_n for_o learning_n any_o thing_n themselves_o ver._n 35._o â—uch_n less_o teach_v other_o any_o thing_n i_o therefore_o conâ—ude_v this_o as_o a_o most_o certain_a and_o undeniable_a truth_n â—â—at_a the_o apostle_n speak_v here_o of_o such_o a_o gift_n and_o exâ—rcise_n as_o woman_n be_v simple_o forbid_v to_o use_v in_o the_o â—hurch_n and_o therefore_o not_o of_o a_o extraordinary_a gift_n â—r_v exercise_n which_o they_o may_v use_v lawful_o and_o do_v â—oth_fw-mi before_o and_o a_o long_a time_n after_o the_o writing_n of_o this_o â—pistle_n his_o last_o answer_n now_o come_v in_o consideration_n which_o â—s_n that_o the_o consequence_n be_v ill_a woman_n be_v forbid_v and_o â—herefore_o man_n be_v permit_v to_o prophesy_v in_o the_o church_n by_o â—n_o ordinary_a gift_n if_o the_o consequence_n seem_v not_o good_a why_o do_v he_o so_o struggle_v as_o before_o otherwise_o to_o make_v a_o escape_n fronâ—he_fw-mi argument_n let_v we_o consider_v of_o the_o force_n of_o it_o which_o appear_v to_o i_o irresistible_a in_o these_o 3._o thing_n first_o the_o apostle_n in_fw-la and_o for_o this_o work_n oppose_v the_o man_n to_o the_o woman_n sex_n to_o sex_n and_o so_o in_o prohibit_v woman_n he_o permit_v man_n when_o the_o h._n ghost_n oppose_v faith_n and_o work_v in_o the_o cause_n of_o justification_n deny_v that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o work_n be_v not_o then_o the_o consequence_n good_a that_o therefore_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n where_o he_o oppose_v believer_n and_o unbeliever_n in_o the_o â—â—se_n of_o salvation_n and_o teach_v that_o believer_n shall_v be_v save_v do_v he_o not_o teach_v consequent_o that_o unbeliever_n shall_v perish_v if_o consequence_n be_v not_o goodâ—â—_n must_v confess_v myself_o far_o to_o seek_v both_o in_o logiâ—â—_n and_o divinity_n second_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o prohibition_n of_o womâ—â—_z prove_v the_o consequence_n which_o be_v all_o such_o as_o prefeâ—â—_z the_o man_n before_o the_o woman_n and_o subject_v the_o woman_n to_o the_o man_n in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o very_a work_n of_o prophecy_n of_o which_o he_o treat_v but_o now_o if_o in_o prohibit_v woman_n he_o give_v not_o liberty_n unto_o man_n where_o be_v the_o prerogative_n of_o man_n above_o woman_n which_o be_v the_o only_a ground_n upon_o which_o he_o build_v his_o prohibition_n three_o where_o verse_n 34._o 35._o it_o be_v not_o permit_v for_o woman_n to_o speak_v but_o if_o they_o will_v learn_v any_o thing_n to_o ask_v then_o husband_n at_o home_n if_o their_o husband_n may_v not_o speak_v neither_o nor_o any_o more_o than_o they_o what_o reason_n can_v be_v render_v of_o the_o apostle_n so_o speak_v last_o m._n yates_n in_o deny_v this_o consequence_n show_v that_o so_o he_o may_v deny_v something_o he_o take_v no_o great_a heed_n what_o it_o be_v the_o apostle_n in_o this_o whole_a chap_n take_v order_n for_o some_o to_o prophesy_v and_o debar_v woman_n therefrom_o either_o admit_v man_n to_o the_o use_n of_o that_o liberty_n or_o else_o we_o must_v have_v some_o three_o kind_n of_o person_n think_v of_o which_o be_v neither_o male_a nor_o female_a my_o four_o argument_n be_v from_o verse_n 29_o and_o 32._o lâ—â—_z the_o prophet_n speak_v â—wo_a or_o three_o and_o let_v the_o rest_n iudgâ—_z â—nd_v the_o spirit_n of_o the_o prophet_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o prophet_n â—hence_o i_o affirm_v that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o exâ—raordinary_a prophet_n or_o prophesy_v since_o they_o in_o â—heir_a doctrine_n can_v not_o err_v and_o so_o be_v not_o subâ—ect_a to_o any_o such_o judgement_n or_o censure_n of_o other_o he_o â—nswereth_v roundly_o though_o brief_o in_o this_o place_n that_o â—hese_fw-mi prophet_n be_v not_o infallible_o assist_v and_o more_o largâ—y_o in_o another_o place_n that_o such_o prophet_n as_o have_v a_o inâ—allible_a assistance_n be_v noâ—_z subject_n to_o this_o rule_n but_o other_o â—hat_o have_v but_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v rom._n 12._o 6._o mean_a â—ifts_n be_v to_o be_v examine_v according_a to_o the_o pâ—oportion_n of_o â—aith_o so_o that_o extraordinary_a prophet_n may_v mix_v some_o of_o â—heir_a own_o with_o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o god_n spirit_n â—hich_v be_v to_o be_v censure_v by_o such_o as_o have_v a_o great_a meaâ—ure_n for_o none_o be_v to_o think_v that_o all_o that_o haâ—_n thâ—se_o extraordinary_a gift_n be_v free_a from_o error_n in_o their_o veâ—y_v doctrine_n we_o see_v the_o strange_a gift_n of_o tongue_n be_v abuse_v and_o so_o â—ight_v the_o rest_n be_v that_o one_o extraordinary_a prophet_n have_v a_o great_a meaâ—ure_n and_o proportion_n of_o gift_n then_o another_o i_o acknowâ—edge_v but_o that_o any_o one_o of_o they_o can_v err_v in_o doctrine_n or_o be_v not_o infallible_o assist_v therein_o by_o the_o spirit_n â—_z deny_v as_o a_o most_o pernicious_a error_n weak_z the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n neither_o have_v master_n yates_n so_o much_o as_o enterprise_v a_o answer_n unto_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o i_o to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a which_o be_v ephesian_n 2._o 20._o where_o the_o ephesian_n as_o the_o household_n or_o church_n of_o god_n be_v say_v to_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n etc._n etc._n and_o chap._n 3._o 5._o where_o he_o speak_v of_o â—_z of_o christ_n which_o in_o other_o age_n be_v not_o mâ—_z know_v unto_o the_o son_n of_o man_n as_o it_o be_v now_o reveal_v uâ—_z his_o holy_a apostle_n and_o prophet_n by_o the_o spirit_n when_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n be_v as_o well_o build_v upon_o tâ—â—_z foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n to_o wit_n extraordinarâ—_z which_o then_o be_v for_o of_o they_o he_o speak_v as_o upâ—â—_z the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o they_o as_o infalliblâ—_z even_o for_o the_o very_a foundation_n inspire_v by_o the_o holâ—_z ghost_n as_o the_o other_o so_o that_o if_o the_o prophet_n coâ—â—_n err_v in_o doctrine_n than_o the_o apostle_n and_o if_o in_o doctrinâ—_z teach_v why_o not_o write_v and_o if_o one_o alone_o why_o nâ—_z more_o or_o all_o and_o if_o they_o may_v err_v how_o know_v â—â—_z that_o they_o do_v not_o err_v if_o he_o say_v the_o mean_a in_o gift_n may_v err_v but_o not_o the_o great_a first_o the_o same_o folloâ—eth_v also_o touch_v the_o apostle_n how_o much_o more_o touch_v the_o prophet_n before_o christ_n not_o comparible_a tâ—_z those_o after_o he_o why_o then_o may_v there_o not_o be_v error_n in_o the_o writing_n especial_o of_o those_o mean_a gift_n as_o without_o doubt_v some_o be_v in_o comparison_n of_o the_o rest_n what_o whether_o this_o wind_n will_v bring_v who_o see_v not_o moreover_o whereas_o we_o propound_v such_o interpretation_n and_o doctrine_n as_o we_o