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A92138 The divine right of church-government and excommunication: or a peacable dispute for the perfection of the holy scripture in point of ceremonies and church government; in which the removal of the Service-book is justifi'd, the six books of Tho: Erastus against excommunication are briefly examin'd; with a vindication of that eminent divine Theod: Beza against the aspersions of Erastus, the arguments of Mr. William Pryn, Rich: Hooker, Dr. Morton, Dr. Jackson, Dr. John Forbes, and the doctors of Aberdeen; touching will-worship, ceremonies, imagery, idolatry, things indifferent, an ambulatory government; the due and just powers of the magistrate in matters of religion, and the arguments of Mr. Pryn, in so far as they side with Erastus, are modestly discussed. To which is added, a brief tractate of scandal ... / By Samuel Rutherfurd, Professor of Divinity in the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. Published by authority. Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1646 (1646) Wing R2377; Thomason E326_1; ESTC R200646 722,457 814

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give_v to_o die_a man_n though_o excommunicate_a as_o the_o denial_n of_o the_o supper_n damn_v ergo_fw-la the_o receive_n of_o it_o save_v and_o so_o of_o baptism_n they_o reason_v answ_n erastus_n name_v this_o his_o own_o probable_a conjecture_n but_o it_o be_v to_o beg_v the_o question_n he_o may_v know_v how_o singular_a augustine_n be_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n and_o how_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v against_o he_o in_o it_o 2._o he_o may_v know_v this_o consequence_n to_o be_v a_o conjecture_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o strong_a because_o it_o be_v his_o own_o 3._o he_o grant_v that_o exclusion_n of_o the_o unworthy_a from_o the_o sacrament_n be_v ancient_a so_o much_o gain_v we_o by_o his_o conjecture_n erastus_n when_o the_o church_n want_v a_o magistrate_n
or_o state_n a_o power_n to_o unjustice_n ad_fw-la malum_fw-la n●●la_fw-la est_fw-la potestas_fw-la obj._n 14._o how_o can_v the_o magistrate_n determine_v what_o the_o true_a church_n and_o ordinance_n be_v and_o then_o set_v they_o up_o with_o the_o power_n of_o the_o sword_n and_o how_o can_v he_o give_v judgement_n of_o a_o ●alse_a church_n false_a ministry_n false_a doctrine_n and_o false_a ordinance_n and_o so_o pull_v they_o down_o by_o the_o sword_n and_o yet_o you_o say_v the_o magistrate_n be_v to_o give_v no_o spiritual_a judgement_n of_o these_o nor_o have_v he_o any_o spiritual_a power_n for_o these_o ●22_n end_n and_o purpose_n bloody_a tenent_n ans_fw-fr the_o magistrate_n judge_n of_o these_o as_o a_o magistrate_n not_o in_o a_o pastoral_n way_n or_o ecclesiastical_o for_o then_o by_o office_n he_o shall_v be_v a_o preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o civil_o as_o they_o be_v agreeable_a or_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n make_v concern_v religion_n and_o in_o order_n to_o the_o civil_a praise_n and_o reward_n of_o stipend_n wage_n or_o benefice_n or_o to_o the_o bodily_a punishment_n inflict_v by_o the_o sword_n rom._n 13._o 4_o 5._o so_o though_o the_o object_n be_v spiritual_a yet_o the_o judge_a be_v civil_a and_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o set_v up_o true_a or_o pull_v down_o false_a ordinance_n be_v objective_o spiritual_a or_o civil_o good_a or_o ill_o to_o speak_v so_o against_o the_o duty_n or_o agreeable_a to_o that_o which_o man_n owe_v as_o they_o be_v member_n of_o a_o civil_a incorporation_n a_o city_n or_o commonwealth_n but_o the_o same_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v formal_o essential_o in_o itself_o civil_a and_o of_o this_o world_n chap._n xxvi_o quest_n 22._o whether_o appeal_n be_v to_o be_v make_v from_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n king_n or_o parliament_n and_o of_o paul_n his_o appeal_n to_o cesar_n for_o the_o clear_a explanation_n of_o the_o question_n its_o possible_a these_o consideration_n may_v help_v to_o give_v light_n 1._o there_o be_v these_o opinion_n touch_v the_o point_n some_o exclude_v the_o magistrate_n from_o all_o care_n 18._o of_o church-discipline_n ●_o as_o jesuit_n and_o papist_n will_v have_v prince_n not_o to_o examine_v what_o the_o church_n the_o pope_n and_o the_o curse_a clergy_n of_o rome_n decree_n in_o their_o synod_n to_o these_o the_o sorbonist_n of_o paris_n oppose_v and_o the_o parliament_n of_o france_n cause_n to_o be_v burn_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o hangman_n any_o write_n of_o jesuit_n that_o diminish_v the_o just_a right_n of_o the_o magistrate_n 2._o those_o who_o in_o the_o low-countries_n do_v remonstrate_v under_o the_o name_n of_o arminian_n as_o they_o be_v call_v hold_v that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o tolerate_v all_o religion_n even_o turkism_n and_o judaism_n not_o except_v because_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n can_v be_v compel_v some_o of_o they_o be_v socinian_n as_o henry_n slatius_n who_o say_v right_o down_o he_o that_o use_v the_o sword_n or_o seek_v a_o magistracy_n eccle●iasticall_a be_v not_o a_o christian_a yea_o war_n be_v against_o the_o command_n of_o jesus_n christ_n or_o in_o any_o term_n to_o kill_v any_o say_v henry_n welsingius_fw-la episcopius_n their_o chief_a man_n will_v have_v the_o magistrate_n go_v no_o further_o then_o real_a or_o bodily_a mulct_n or_o fine_n joan._n geisteranus_n pronounce_v it_o unlawful_a to_o be_v a_o magistrate_n to_o use_v the_o sword_n but_o all_o say_v the_o magistrate_n ought_v not_o to_o use_v the_o sword_n against_o heretic_n blasphemer_n idolater_n or_o against_o any_o man_n for_o his_o conscience_n or_o religion_n 3._o those_o that_o think_v the_o magistrate_n bear_v the_o sword_n lawful_o yet_o do_v confine_v he_o to_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o half_a of_o god_n law_n the_o duty_n of_o the_o second_o table_n and_o not_o to_o these_o all_o but_o to_o such_o as_o border_v not_o direct_o on_o conscience_n for_o if_o some_o shall_v sacrifice_v their_o child_n to_o molech_n and_o devil_n as_o some_o do_v the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o to_o punish_v they_o it_o be_v a_o joint_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o a_o matter_n of_o conscience_n and_o all_o these_o will_v be_v find_v to_o give_v to_o the_o magistrate_n as_o the_o magistrate_n just_a as_o little_a as_o jesuit_n do_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o that_o be_v right_o down_o nothing_o except_o possible_o the_o magistrate_n be_v of_o their_o religion_n only_o who_o he_o govern_v only_o as_o a_o christian_a man_n the_o magistrate_n have_v more_o with_o these_o then_o with_o papist_n 4._o erastus_n give_v all_o in_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n both_o in_o power_n and_o exercise_v to_o the_o magistrate_n even_o to_o the_o dispense_n of_o word_n and_o sacrament_n 5._o other_o forsake_v erastus_n in_o a_o little_a but_o follow_v he_o in_o the_o main_a deny_v power_n of_o order_n 2._o power_n of_o internal_a jurisdiction_n grant_v to_o he_o all_o the_o external_a government_n of_o the_o church_n 6._o we_o hold_v that_o the_o magistrate_n keep_v both_o table_n of_o the_o law_n and_o that_o he_o have_v a_o inspection_n in_o a_o civil_a coactive_a way_n in_o preserve_v both_o table_n of_o the_o law_n but_o that_o he_o be_v not_o as_o a_o magistrate_n a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o as_o a_o christian_a only_o 2._o the_o exercise_n of_o discipline_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o as_o the_o modus_fw-la the_o way_n of_o exercise_v of_o it_o either_o in_o relation_n to_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n or_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o politic_a and_o civil_a law_n of_o a_o commonwealth_n be_v a_o far_a other_o thing_n 3._o as_o the_o church_n be_v to_o approve_v and_o commend_v the_o just_a sentence_n of_o the_o civil_a judge_n in_o punish_v ill_a doer_n but_o only_o conditional_o in_o so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v just_a so_o be_v the_o magistrate_n oblige_v to_o follow_v ratify_v and_o with_o his_o civil_a sanction_n to_o confirm_v the_o sound_a constitution_n of_o the_o church_n but_o conditional_o not_o absolute_o and_o blind_o but_o in_o so_o far_o as_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 4._o hence_o there_o be_v a_o wrong_v of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o church_n and_o a_o civil_a wrong_v of_o the_o magistrate_n as_o the_o magistrate_n or_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o such_o or_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o such_o the_o former_a and_o the_o latter_a both_o can_v belong_v to_o one_o judicature_n no_o more_o than_o the_o fail_n of_o a_o painter_n against_o the_o precept_n of_o art_n because_o he_o have_v draw_v the_o colour_n proportion_n and_o the_o countenance_n beside_o the_o sampler_n and_o the_o fail_v not_o against_o art_n but_o against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o king_n in_o that_o he_o have_v lavish_v out_o too_o much_o gold_n in_o the_o draw_n of_o the_o image_n do_v belong_v to_o 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the_o same_o nature_n and_o kind_n of_o judicature_n as_o from_o a_o civil_a court_n to_o a_o high_a civil_a court_n and_o from_o a_o ecclesiastical_a court_n to_o a_o high_a as_o suppose_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n judge_v that_o the_o gentile_n must_v be_v circumcise_v the_o godly_a there_o may_v appeal_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o apostle_n and_o elder_n in_o a_o council_n convene_v from_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n both_o and_o therefore_o because_o the_o magistrate_n can_v no_o more_o judge_v what_o be_v heresy_n what_o truth_n as_o a_o magistrate_n than_o he_o can_v dispense_v word_n and_o sacrament_n a_o appeal_n can_v be_v make_v to_o he_o who_o be_v no_o more_o a_o judge_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la nor_o he_o can_v dispense_v the_o sacrament_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la but_o a_o complaint_n may_v be_v make_v to_o the_o magistrate_n if_o the_o church_n