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be_v the_o only_a proper_a subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v a_o seven_o which_o he_o be_v please_v so_o false_o to_o say_v i_o purposely_o and_o subtle_o omit_v there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o it_o that_o i_o know_v viz._n from_o the_o insignificancy_n of_o the_o end_n propound_v for_o the_o same_o viz._n to_o take_v away_o sin_n from_o child_n wit_n mr._n will_n own_v tertullia_n wit_n to_o which_o testimony_n in_o the_o first_o place_n he_o give_v we_o this_o acknowledgement_n pag._n 96._o viz._n that_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o tertullian_n who_o be_v the_o first_o writer_n of_o note_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n have_v divers_a passage_n seem_o against_o infant_n baptism_n but_o yet_o withal_o it_o must_v be_v consider_v that_o his_o testimony_n such_o as_o it_o be_v be_v but_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o single_a dr._n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n where_o by_o the_o way_n we_o may_v take_v notice_n that_o 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cavil_n of_o corruption_n and_o weakness_n the_o evidence_n be_v acknowledge_v the_o main_a thing_n intend_v and_o which_o will_v be_v endless_a to_o answer_v in_o every_o authority_n that_o may_v be_v urge_v pro_fw-la and_o con_v but_o yet_o in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o be_v our_o first_o witness_n and_o speak_v so_o much_o reason_n and_o truth_n and_o so_o much_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o to_o make_v mr._n will_n his_o unreasonable_a opposition_n the_o better_a to_o appear_v we_o shall_v give_v some_o distinct_a reply_n to_o his_o exception_n against_o this_o our_o witness_n who_o he_o areignes_n for_n so_o much_o corruption_n in_o doctrine_n and_o folly_n in_o this_o his_o particular_a witness_n and_o first_o for_o that_o great_a corruption_n in_o doctrine_n with_o 1._o the_o corrupt_a doctrine_n he_o charge_v tertullian_n with_o he_o charge_v he_o with_o about_o chrism_n exorcism_n etc._n etc._n i_o presume_v there_o be_v none_o of_o his_o ancient_a doctor_n come_v short_a of_o he_o and_o who_o be_v as_o much_o montanist_n as_o he_o therein_o viz._n origen_n cyprian_a chrysostom_n austin_n etc._n etc._n only_o herein_o tertullian_n be_v more_o orthodox_n hold_v none_o of_o those_o to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la while_o they_o take_v they_o to_o be_v apostolical_a tradition_n and_o essential_a to_o baptism_n magdeb._n century_n 3._o chap._n 10._o pag._n 240._o compare_v 82._o 225._o 248._o and_o for_o those_o evil_a sentiment_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o origen_n do_v far_o exceed_v he_o as_o you_o will_v find_v at_o large_a in_o his_o naevi_fw-la pag._n 261._o etc._n etc._n and_o which_o argue_v a_o very_a partial_a mina_fw-la to_o be_v so_o quick_a sight_v in_o the_o one_o and_o so_o stark_o blind_a in_o the_o other_o and_o as_o to_o his_o be_v a_o montanist_n before_o he_o write_v his_o book_n of_o baptism_n which_o mr._n will_n affirm_v i_o see_v it_o not_o confirm_v by_o any_o good_a authority_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o 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three_o in_o flanders_n where_o it_o be_v also_o confirm_v and_o seal_v d_o with_o much_o blood_n pag._n 267_o to_o 269._o holland_n holland_n four_o in_o holland_n or_o low_a country_n wâ—ere_v it_o be_v also_o witness_v too_o with_o much_o blood_n and_o martyrdom_n p._n 269_o to_o 271._o five_o in_o bohemia_n bohemia_n bohemia_n where_o it_o be_v eminent_o confirmeâ—_n also_o p._n 271_o to_o 273._o six_o in_o hungaria_n hungaria_n hungaria_n in_o like_a manner_n p._n 273_o to_o 274._o seven_o in_o transylvania_n transylv_n transylv_n evidence_v also_o as_o p._n 274._o eight_o in_o poland_n poland_n poland_n a_o confirmation_n thereof_o pag_n 274._o in_o england_n it_o have_v also_o be_v confirm_v through_o many_o age_n by_o christian_n under_o several_a denomination_n viz._n by_o waldenses_n lollard_n wickliffian_n and_o anabaâ—tists_n through_o all_o the_o king_n reign_v from_o the_o conquest_n to_o this_o very_a day_n as_o at_o large_a you_o have_v it_o from_o p._n 275_o to_o 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