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An apology of English Arminianisme or A dialogue betweene Iacobus Arminius, professour in the Vniuersity of Leyden in Holland; and Enthusiastus an English Doctour of Diuinity and a great precisian. Wherein are defended the doctrines of Arminius touching freewill, predestination, and reprobation: the said doctrines being mantained & taught by many of the most learned Protestants of England, at this present time. Written by O.N. heertofore of the Vniuersity of Oxford.; Apology of English Arminianisme.
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âf_n he_o since_o in_o this_o late_a sense_n god_n ââould_v be_v the_o cause_n and_o author_n of_o his_o ââckednes_n whereas_o his_o wickedness_n be_v ââom_n himself_o and_o so_o if_o he_o be_v wicked_a ââen_o god_n ordain_v he_o to_o the_o day_n of_o evil_a that_o be_v to_o the_o day_n of_o punishment_n ând_v this_o he_o do_v for_o himself_o that_o be_v for_o ãâã_d own_o glory_n the_o like_a say_n by_o anaââgy_n may_v be_v use_v of_o prince_n who_o may_v ãâã_d a_o restrain_v sense_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v malefactor_n to_o punishment_n ãâã_d yet_o the_o prince_n be_v neither_o willing_a âor_a author_n of_o their_o subject_n offence_n this_o our_o exposition_n of_o the_o former_a place_n ãâã_d so_o natural_a and_o genuine_a as_o that_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o true_a by_o 404._o by_o in_o his_o decade_n in_o english_a p._n 404._o builinger_n 438._o builinger_n in_o method_n theolog._n pag._n 438._o hiperius_n and_o philp_n 1â7_n philp_n ân_v his_o disput_n theolog._n de_fw-fr providenâia_n ãâã_d sect_n 1â7_n marbachius_n all_o learned_a protestant_n enthusiastus_n what_o answer_v arminius_n can_v be_v give_v to_o that_o at_o least_o seem_a pregnant_a text_n 9_o text_n rom._n 9_o have_v not_o the_o potter_n 554._o potter_n m._n willeâ_n iâ_n synop_n 554._o power_n over_o the_o clay_n even_o of_o the_o same_o lump_n to_o make_v one_o vessel_n unto_o honour_n and_o another_o unto_o dishonour_n what_o if_o god_n witâing_v to_o show_v his_o wrath_n etc._n etc._n suffer_v with_o long_a patience_n the_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n ordain_v to_o ãâ¦ã_o now_o this_o place_n seem_v to_o ââict_v ãâã_d god_n even_o without_o any_o provision_n ãâ¦ã_o ordain_v some_o man_n be_v ãâã_d the_o mass_n or_o lump_n of_o mankind_n ãâã_d damnation_n arminius_n i_o will_v be_v partly_o silent_a herein_o &_o aâstin_n with_o some_o learned_a brethren_n of_o ãâã_d own_o &_o the_o apostle_n himself_o shall_v ãâã_d be_v thereto_o for_o i_o and_o first_o i_o ãâã_d austin_n to_o paraphrase_n this_o text_n in_o ãâã_d word_n sixtum_fw-la word_n epist_n 100l_n ad_fw-la paulinum_n &_o epist_n 105._o ad_fw-la sixtum_fw-la haec_fw-la massa_n etc._n etc._n if_o this_o ãâã_d he_o mean_v the_o mass_n or_o lumpââ_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v ãâã_d indifferent_a that_o as_o it_o deserve_v no_o good_a ãâã_d so_o it_o deserve_v no_o evil_a not_o without_o cause_n iâ_n may_v be_v think_v iniquity_n that_o thereof_o there_o shall_v be_v make_v certain_a vessel_n to_o dishonour_n but_o see_a that_o by_o the_o freewill_n of_o the_o first_o man_n the_o whole_a mass_n do_v become_v guilty_a of_o condemnation_n it_o be_v without_o doubt_n of_o god_n mercy_n that_o thereof_o be_v make_v certain_a vessel_n to_o honour_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o his_o judgââââ_n mean_v his_o justice_n that_o other_o ãâã_d be_v make_v to_o dishonour_n thus_o far_o austin_n according_a to_o who_o judgement_n we_o ãâã_d that_o it_o be_v not_o god_n absolute_a ãâã_d without_o respect_n to_o man_n wickedness_n o'erseen_v but_o it_o be_v sin_n which_o be_v the_o ââuse_n why_o some_o vessel_n be_v make_v to_o âââhonour_n or_o damnation_n now_o hyperius_n a_o learned_a proteââant_n shall_v further_o answer_v for_o i_o âho_fw-mi say_v that_o 438._o that_o in_o method_n theolog._n l._n 2._o pag._n 438._o the_o long_a patience_n mention_v in_o the_o text_n wherewith_o god_n suffer_v the_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n demonstrate_v that_o they_o be_v create_v good_a and_o afterward_o ãâã_d come_v evil_a of_o their_o proper_a will_n they_o be_v âade_v vessel_n of_o wrath_n because_o voluntary_o they_o be_v to_o become_v evil_a thus_o hiperius_n so_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o their_o creation_n of_o be_v vessel_n be_v of_o god_n but_o be_v vessel_n of_o wrath_n be_v from_o their_o sin_n foresee_v i_o will_v conclude_v this_o point_n even_o with_o the_o apostle_n explanation_n of_o this_o place_n who_o express_o say_v that_o tim._n that_o 2._o tim._n if_o a_o vessel_n unto_o dishonour_n shall_v cleanse_v itself_o it_o shall_v become_v a_o vessel_n unto_o honour_n so_o far_o be_v the_o apostle_n from_o judge_v that_o god_n do_v absolute_o ordain_v any_o man_n to_o destruction_n and_o damnation_n without_o respect_n and_o reference_n to_o his_o sin_n and_o impiety_n thus_o far_o of_o this_o place_n illustrate_v by_o the_o apostle_n austin_n and_o the_o former_a learned_a protestant_n and_o for_o the_o closure_n of_o all_o i_o will_v alleyne_v to_o ãâã_d authority_n my_o own_o obseruâ_n ãâã_d touch_v our_o aduersarius_fw-la in_o this_o controversy_n their_o translate_n out_o of_o ãâã_d for_o their_o own_o advantage_n these_o worâ_n ordain_v to_o destruction_n whereas_o it_o ãâã_d the_o greek_a only_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d that_o be_v make_v apt_a to_o destruction_n and_o accord_v hereto_o it_o be_v in_o the_o latin_a tââ_n apta_n ad_fw-la interitum_fw-la enthusiastus_n i_o can_v nor_o will_v not_o reply_v again_o the_o apostle_n judgement_n herein_o but_o yââ_n there_o remain_v behind_o diverse_a ãâã_d passage_n of_o scripture_n as_o i_o may_v tearââ_n they_o that_o a_o man_n can_v hardly_o fall_v upââ_n they_o without_o danger_n as_o where_o wâ_n read_v 1â_n read_v act._n 1â_n as_o many_o as_o be_v ordain_v to_o eternal_a life_n believe_v imply_v hereby_o ãâã_d the_o restraint_n of_o the_o former_a word_n that_o some_o be_v ordain_v to_o destruction_n arminius_n this_o argument_n may_v be_v takââ_n away_o several_a way_n first_o because_o ãâã_d speak_v only_o of_o the_o predestinate_a ãâã_d touch_v at_o least_o in_o word_n the_o repâââbate_n second_o that_o admit_v the_o âords_n of_o the_o text_n be_v by_o sequel_n to_o concern_v the_o reprobate_n yet_o they_o prove_v âot_n which_o be_v only_o the_o issuable_a point_n in_o âhis_n controversy_n to_o be_v prove_v a_o real_a reprobation_n or_o ordain_v to_o damnation_n without_o respect_n of_o sin_n foresee_v but_o only_o a_o not_o ordain_v to_o mercy_n or_o a_o dust_n dereliction_n of_o the_o wicked_a for_o their_o own_o sin_n three_o and_o last_o i_o say_v that_o whereas_o these_o former_a word_n be_v deliver_v by_o s._n luke_n &_o withal_o whereas_o our_o adversary_n inference_n here_o be_v that_o those_o who_o do_v not_o then_o believe_v be_v ordain_v to_o damnation_n now_o to_o dream_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o our_o adversary_n shall_v be_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o s._n luke_n be_v i_o will_v not_o say_v improbable_a but_o most_o absurd_a my_o reason_n be_v this_o the_o text_n there_o show_v that_o 13._o that_o act._n 13._o the_o whole_a city_n come_v together_o to_o hear_v viz_o that_o sermon_n by_o which_o word_n it_o appear_v that_o this_o assembly_n consist_v of_o all_o sort_n of_o person_n âs_n young_a old_a woman_n man_n etc._n etc._n now_o who_o be_v so_o stupid_a as_o to_o think_v that_o of_o all_o that_o great_a concourse_n they_o only_o be_v save_v who_o at_o that_o time_n be_v converâed_v by_o that_o sermon_n for_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o assembly_n ãâã_d reprobate_n and_o can_v not_o after_o be_v ãâã_d to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n so_o ãâ¦ã_o you_o see_v enthusiastus_n in_o a_o âââtrutination_n of_o the_o word_n this_o ãâã_d allege_v but_o proceed_v further_o for_o â_o assure_v myself_o i_o shall_v not_o meet_v in_o all_o this_o discourse_n with_o any_o one_o text_n which_o will_v force_v my_o understanding_n much_o less_o necessary_o evict_v the_o point_n question_v enthusiastus_n i_o take_v your_o answer_n as_o partly_o satisfy_v but_o because_o there_o be_v some_o fââ_n text_n behind_o which_o by_o my_o near_a ââtercourse_n among_o my_o brethren_n i_o ãâã_d hear_v they_o produce_v by_o they_o with_o great_a confidence_n in_o proof_n of_o reprobation_n therefore_o i_o be_o loath_a to_o ãâã_d they_o over_o in_o silence_n without_o hear_v from_o yourself_o what_o construction_n you_o and_o your_o party_n do_v give_v of_o they_o the_o next_o therefore_o shall_v be_v ãâã_d passage_n which_o my_o brethren_n have_v ãâã_d vaunt_a word_n ever_o much_o pryse_v ãâã_d therefore_o i_o shall_v be_v the_o more_o willing_a to_o receive_v a_o sufficient_a and_o irrepliââââ_n answer_v thereto_o the_o tâââ_n iâ_n this_o â_o this_o rom._n â_o ãâã_d ãâã_d shall_v serve_v the_o young_a i_o love_v jacob_n ãâã_d hate_a esau_n from_o which_o word_n ãâã_d infer_v that_o god_n even_o from_o his_o ââothers_n womb_n hate_v esau_n and_o therefore_o without_o regard_n of_o his_o evil_a work_n use_v reprobate_v he_o arminius_n indeed_o this_o be_v the_o masterpiece_n in_o all_o your_o shop_n but_o i_o hope_v enthus_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o give_v you_o full_a satisfaction_n herein_o whereby_o you_o may_v partly_o resemble_v this_o passage_n to_o lightning_n and_o thunder_n which_o be_v fearful_a to_o the_o eye_n ând_v do_v but_o seldom_o hurt_v and_o first_o i_o âay_v that_o if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o answer_v then_o
calu._n in_o instit._n l._n 2._o c._n â8_o david_n to_o number_v the_o people_n that_o 16._o that_o â_o samuel_n 16._o god_n command_v semei_n ââcurse_v david_n and_o 22._o and_o â_o regum_fw-la 22._o appoint_a saâin_n to_o be_v a_o false_a spirit_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o ãâã_d prophet_n beside_o many_o other_o passage_n of_o like_a nature_n now_o these_o and_o the_o like_a text_n do_v seem_v in_o diverse_a of_o our_o brethren_n judgement_n to_o prove_v that_o god_n will_v not_o cause_v these_o action_n in_o âen_n which_o be_v predestinate_v to_o salvation_n but_o only_o in_o the_o reprobate_n arminius_n here_o again_o as_o in_o some_o of_o the_o former_a i_o have_v do_v i_o will_v interpose_v the_o judgement_n of_o diverse_a learned_a protestant_n as_o a_o shield_n between_o the_o former_a text_n and_o i_o yet_o before_o i_o come_v to_o their_o express_a testimony_n therein_o i_o must_v advertise_v you_o enthusiastus_n of_o two_o thing_n the_o first_o be_v that_o many_o thing_n which_o be_v do_v only_o by_o the_o permission_n of_o god_n himself_o according_a to_o the_o phrase_n and_o dtalect_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v say_v to_o do_v as_o above_o i_o note_v touch_v pharaos_n induration_n second_o you_o may_v be_v advertise_v that_o when_o god_n suffer_v man_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n to_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a ãâã_d ãâã_d by_o the_o like_a form_n of_o speech_n iâ_n scripture_n be_v say_v to_o cause_n or_o command_v ãâã_d do_v of_o it_o as_o be_v âas_v where_o note_v ãâã_d to_o apply_v these_o two_o observation_n to_o ãâã_d former_a passage_n of_o scripture_n and_o ãâã_d touch_v god_n command_v david_n ãâã_d number_n the_o people_n it_o be_v explayn_v ãâã_d where_o in_o express_a word_n that_o ââ_o that_o 1._o chro._n ââ_o sââtan_n provoke_v david_n to_o number_v they_o so_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o the_o number_v of_o thâ_n people_n be_v the_o work_n of_o satan_n persuaâding_v thereto_o and_o not_o the_o work_n of_o god_n but_o only_o by_o his_o permission_n &_o according_a to_o this_o my_o answer_n the_o marginal_a note_n of_o the_o english_a bibles_n of_o anno_fw-la 157â_n upon_o this_o place_n do_v thus_o comment_v the_o lord_n permit_v satan_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o this_o ouâ_n exposition_n austin_n accord_v touch_v sâmei_n in_o these_o word_n â0_n word_n l._n de_fw-fr gra_fw-mi &_o libero_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la c._n â0_n quomodo_n dixerââ_n dominus_fw-la semci_fw-la maledicere_fw-la david_n etc._n etc._n ãâã_d the_o lord_n speak_v to_o semei_n to_o curse_v david_n &c_n &c_n this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v non_fw-la iubendo_fw-la not_o by_o command_a semei_n etc._n etc._n for_o if_o semei_n ãâã_d obey_v the_o lord_n command_v he_o theâ_n there_o be_v reason_n why_o he_o shall_v be_v ãâã_d praise_v then_o punish_v in_o like_a sort_n john_n know_v speak_v of_o the_o tyranny_n of_o pharaoh_n a_o ãâã_d ââââsing_v of_o semei_n thus_o write_v 374._o write_v against_o the_o aduessaries_n of_o god_n predestination_n p._n 374._o neiâher_o to_o pharaoh_n neither_o to_o semei_n nor_o to_o any_o ââther_n reprobate_a do_v god_n give_v either_o wicked_a commandment_n or_o evil_a thought_n the_o âruth_n of_o which_o answer_n god_n himself_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o sinful_a action_n of_o the_o people_n may_v seem_v to_o seal_v up_o in_o these_o his_o word_n ââ_o word_n hierom_n ââ_o i_o command_v it_o not_o âor_a speak_v it_o neither_o come_n it_o into_o my_o mind_n so_o much_o be_v man_n deceive_v in_o dream_v that_o god_n shall_v either_o command_v or_o cause_n sin_n but_o enthusiastus_n before_o i_o end_v this_o passage_n i_o will_v demand_v of_o you_o the_o reaâon_n as_o above_o i_o do_v why_o your_o party_n âo_o allege_v these_o last_o text_n and_o some_o other_o above_o object_v by_o you_o to_o wit_n âouching_v god_n lead_v we_o into_o temptation_n touch_v the_o induration_n of_o pharaos_n hart_n touch_v judas_n his_o prodition_n of_o our_o saviour_n &_o c_o if_o they_o be_v allege_v by_o your_o side_n to_o prove_v that_o god_n iâ_n the_o cause_n and_o procurer_n of_o those_o sinful_a act_n tend_v to_o man_n reprobation_n as_o it_o seem_v they_o be_v to_o that_o end_n allege_v how_o then_o can_v you_o and_o you_o exclude_v god_n as_o afore_o i_o urge_v touch_v some_o text_n above_o insist_v by_o you_o from_o ââing_n author_n of_o sin_n a_o confess_a blaspheney_n and_o ãâã_d such_o ãâã_d 524._o ãâã_d contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 8_o p._n 524._o d._n whitaker_n 500_o whitaker_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o english_a translation_n pag._n 500_o d._n fulke_o and_o ãâã_d most_o learned_a protestant_n if_o the_o ãâã_d say_v passage_n be_v not_o produce_v to_o ãâã_d former_a end_n than_o they_o in_o no_o sort_n ãâã_d the_o doctrine_n of_o reprobation_n enthusiastus_n i_o grant_v arminius_n i_o can_v sufficient_o to_o my_o own_o satisfaction_n reply_v thereto_o and_o to_o speak_v more_o full_o ãâã_d confess_v the_o consideration_n of_o this_o ãâã_d so_o seem_v necessary_a inference_n have_v oftentimes_o strong_o assault_v my_o âââgement_n to_o give_v assent_n that_o god_n be_v ãâã_d author_n of_o sinne._n yea_o which_o be_v moââ_n i_o have_v often_o insist_v in_o this_o consequenââ_n to_o many_o learned_a man_n of_o my_o side_n ãâã_d any_o of_o they_o will_v ever_o yield_v in_o ââpresse_a word_n that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o sin_n but_o when_o upon_o ãâã_d their_o word_n i_o reply_v how_o then_o ãâã_d god_n be_v say_v to_o obdurate_a pharao_n ãâã_d to_o lead_v we_o into_o temptation_n to_o cause_v tomei_n to_o curse_n david_n and_o to_o cause_n or_o pââcure_v infallible_o these_o and_o the_o like_a ãâã_d wicked_a action_n specify_v in_o ãâã_d the_o former_a text_n common_o all_o ãâã_d for_o proof_n of_o reprobationâ_n â_z and_o ãâã_d notwithstanding_o all_o this_o it_o shall_v not_o ââllow_v that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o âinne_n they_o i_o well_o remember_v will_v answer_v this_o my_o propound_a difficulty_n several_a way_n who_o answer_n i_o will_v 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