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A57824 Tythes ended by Christ with the Levitical priesthood and therefore no maintenance for a Gospel-ministry, nor lawful for Christians to pay or take under the dispensation of the Gospel : being an answer to two reviling pamphlets written against the people of God called Quakers, because they refuse to pay tythes : the one by C.N. a Presbyterian, and the other by Cress Wheatly, an Episcopal priest : the said C.N. and C.W. are herein justly rebuked for their enmity and lyes against the people of God, and their arguments and plea for tythes considered and fully answered, and the people of God vindicated in their refusing to pay tythes / by the servants of the Lord, T. Rudyard and W. Gibson ; also a postscript by George Watt ; also some brief observations upon some passages in a book, entituled, Christ's call to professors, by W.G. Rudyard, Thomas, d. 1692.; Gibson, William, 1629-1684.; Watt, George, Lover of the truth. Tythes no Gospel-ordinance. 1673 (1673) Wing R2183; ESTC R12032 26,888 46

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are now in is not because they are Worse then you but because you would Eat the Fat and Drink the Sweet and Live in Idleness as you did before It is high time for you to refrain your lusting after the Onions and Garlick of Egypt this Egyptian-Maintenance that gratified their and their Families Lusts And if you were come unto the Wisdom of God that teach●th to profit by every Dispensation you would consider God's Hand has been lifted up against you and for what has not your Evil Entreating the Tender People of the Lord some of them for Refusing to Pay Tythes some for other Causes been the Reason of it c But as in the dayes of Old so now they will not see although the Lord's Hand hath been lifted up against them and it is vident to some that knew some of you in the dayes past that at some times some Good Desires after God were begotten in some of you until they were choaked by your Coveting and Complying under your Fat Benefices and this the true Witness of God in your Consciences will bear you Witness of in the Secrets of your own Hearts and Glad should 〈◊〉 be to hear or see that such were returned to those Desires again but how few of you are come to be sensible of what you have done and to cry out That you have offended the Lord and his People but on the contrary your Desires are 〈◊〉 after that Sweet Morsel that you have lost and after your Lordizing Power which God in his Mercy has delivered his ●●ple from Happy were it for you that yet you would consider why the Lord hath and doth Contend with you if that peradventure your Eyes might be opened your Ears uns●opped and your Hearts affected before this Glorious Day pass over your Heads wherein God in his Great Loving-kindness hath visited Thousands otherwise you shall ● remain in your Estate of Darkness whilst others dwell in the Light and are at Unity with him that is True Light whose Light many of you have opposed and many of you have Blasphemed by speaking Evil of it Yet I would make a Difference of you and in the Fear of the Lord would be content to be made an Instrument to pull some of you as Brands out of the Fire that you might be saved and might come to know that Blessed Fellowship that is in the Light and with those that walk therein that so you might become Ministers indeed Ministers of a Savory Life Savory to God and Savory to the People of the Lord but you are too wise in your own Wisdom to receive him that is esteem'd Foolishness to that Wisdom that is from below you are too high to receive and believe in the True Light by whom all Men are lightened that come into the World who is the Way to the Father and in which Light there is Life which Life Leavens the Soul to God this Light you have stumbled at and there is no coming to the Father but by it he is the Way and the Truth But it is the Poor that have received the Gospel which is the Power of God They were the Master-Builders that rejected him as not fit for their Building but to the True Builders he was and is still the Chief Corner Stone on which is founded all God's Holy Building in all Ages of the World both Prophets and Apostles and all the holy Martyrs he is the Way the Inward Way the Light of Life that quickent unto God and those that have experienced it can t●ll what its Goodness and Worth has been to their Souls Wisdom is justified of her Children And could you as the Apostles count the Loss of all your Attaintments Gain that you might find this Knowledge and this Wisdom then would you be Happy in coming to know this Only True Teacher the Light which many of you in Pride and Arrogancy have Opposed ● and it will shew you all that ever you have done and what plainer Evidence can you have is not this God's Salvation to the Ends of the Earth to whom all are to look unto and be saved For to as many as received him he gave Power to become the Sons of God and he that hath received the Light and hath Unity with it hath Unity with God with Christ and with his People And thus Christ is known to be a Saviour who shall save People from their Sins Therefore whilst it is called to day and the People of the Lord have any Desires to God for you when the Light of the Lord dawneth in upon your Hearts refuse it not but open unto him and he will shew you his Salvation he will lead you in a Way that you have not known through the Pathes of Judgment unto the Land of Everlasting Rest which otherwise cannot be known So all of you know That the true Priesthood is known which differs from the Old both in Services and Maintenance and unto this New Priestood all are invited to his ●nward Teachings who is the New and Living Way Life is in Christ Jesus who is our Head and from him doth his Members receive Life because he liveth we do live also and he that receiveth him receiveth us whom he hath sent and yet of our selves we are nothing but as he is pleased to operate in us that so the Glory might be the Lord's and that he might have the Preheminence over all who is God blessed forever and ever And as for the particular Answers to the Articles of C. N. it is another's Work I meddle not with it but having found C. N. a Blasphemer against God and his Holy City who have born their Testimonies in the Spirit of the Lamb against that Forced Maintenance of Tythers in many Ages of the World I was not clear of him nor of those that are at Unity with him in this Work until I had laid God's Judgments over their Heads and there must leave it And remember this for all that you have done Vengeance is the Lord's and he will certainly repay and conclude with Desires of Good-will to all Men warning them that they joyn not with thee C. N. or any in thy Spirit in this Cursed Imployment of seeking to strengthen the Hands of Persecutors against God's Inheritance for his People that serve him are precious to him and they that touch them are as they that touch the Apple of his Eye The Lord upholdeth the Righteous and maketh them as Pillars supporting the Truth against which the Gates of Hell shall not prevail George Watt. TYTHES
TYTHES Ended by Christ WITH THE Levitical Priesthood And therefore no Maintenance for a Gospel-Ministry nor Lawful for Christians to Pay or Take under the Dispensation of the GOSPEL Being an Answer to two Reviling Pamphlets written against the People of God called Quakers because they Refuse to pay Tythes The one by C. N. a Presbyterian and the other by Cress Wheatly an Episcopal Priest The said C. N. and C. W. are herein justly Rebuked for their Enmity and Lyes against the People of God and their Arguments and Plea for Tythes considered and fully answered And the People of God Vindicated in their Refusing to pay Tythes By the Servants of the Lord T. Rudyard and W. Gibson Also a Postscript by George Watt. Also some brief Observations upon some Passages in a Book Entituled Christ's Call to Professors by W. G. The Priesthood being changed there is also a Necessity of the Change of the Law Heb. 7. 12. Freely ye have Received Freely Give Mat 10. 8. Ho every one that thirsteth come ye to the Waters and he that hath no Money come buy and eat Milk Wine yea without Money without Price Why will ye spend your Money for that which is not Bread and your Labour for that which doth not satisfie Isa 55. 1 2. The Spirit and the Bride say Come and let him that heareth say Come and let him that is a Thirst come and whosoever will let him take the Water of Life Freely Rev. 22. 17. 21. 6. Printed in the Year 1673. TO THE Considerate READER FRIEND THink it not strange that Contests of this kind should be 'twixt Us and our Adversaries I must tell thee 'T is not a Quarrel of Yesterday but bares date from mens Apostacy from the true Faith of Jesus Therefore have we in the Protestants Book of Martyrs Fox Acts Mon. 1 Tom. fol 618. An. Dom. 1401. amongst others the Complaint of a good Christian W. S. on this wise Whereas saith he Christ's Law bids to minister Spiritual Things Freely to the people the Pope with his Law sells for Money after the quantity of the Gift Blessing Sacraments Preaching to the People as is known amongst them The Professors of Religion at this day upon frequent Occasions pride themselves not a little yea loudly b●ast of the faithful Testimonies of these Men yet blush not openly to appear in Oppòsition to their Doctrine and to stab their Testimonies by their contrary Practices Pharisee-like Garnishing the Sepulchres of the Prophets whom their Fathers wickedly slew Mat. 23. 29. The Person who now contends for this Forced Maintenance is one Clement Nedham of Saxelby in or near the Vale of Bevoyr alias Beaver in ●eicester-shire he 's a Stranger to me only this I hear of him that he is of no small Accompt in those Parts having been an eminent Captain in our late Civil Wars and has his House Licensed for Presbyters or Independants to preach in How suitable a Work it was for him or them to set their hands unto at this day I leave to the Judicious to consider Had Tythes been his or their Gospel-Maintenance under their present Non-conformity 't would have been Colour of Quarrel Had the old Antipathy 'twixt them and the Conformists been worn out then to have pleaded for their Friend had been tollerable But without any such Pretence Cause or Provocation on our part Reader has his Work been to tell our Adversaries we are Thieves Robbers Lyars Slanderers and such like and what Ground he hath for it let God and Good Men judge Read his Charge and our Defence and then thou 'lt know his Mistake and our Innocency 'T is probable thou knowest our Sufferings have not been a little in this Cause weigh but the Circumstances of the Man and his Work and thou wilt see how much his End is to Incense when more he cannot act against us Farewel Thomas Rudyard Lumbar-Street London 4th Moneth 1673. FRIEND THy Letter bearing date from Saxelby 18 Feb. 1672 directed to thy Neighbours of Claxton has been considered The Matter therein laid down is no new thing but thy Manner of Argument rather a Novelty which in its place I may take notice of Thou art pleased to entertain thy Reader with an Accompt of thy many Years Observation of the Contests 'twixt th●se called Priests and those called Quakers concerning Tythes the one Demanding the other Refusing the Payment thereof in and for which the former have under-gone bitter Declamations and the latter grievous Imprisonments and Sufferings from their Adversaries Whence it s no hard Matter to conclud thee rather a Stander by then one interested in the Quar●el yet not so far to exclude thy Concern but to a●knowledg thy Aff●ctions lean to one Party as the Stress of thy Lines clearly evidence I am with many more of o●e mind with thee That as God will blast all Men's Divised Services to him of which number was this of Ty●hes so also their pretended not real Conscience-Sufferings for him And the Lord God is evidencing them in these dayes although the Blind see it not and of this are there many Witnesses But having read thy pretended Serious and Conscientious Concern for Persons whose grievous Imprisonments and Suffe●ings under Pretence at least of Co●s●ience as thy own words are have affected thee with Comp●ssion I exp●cted no les● Eff●ct of such Affections then a Case of Conscience seriously Stated and solidly R●solved as a fit Medium for the Determination of the Justness or U●justn●ss of their Testimony supposing that under less weighty Consideration no Ingenious Man would attempt a Resolve of that Great and Old Case of Contest 'twixt the holy Martyrs of Jesus and the Popish Prelates in the Ages and Generations p●st now revived 'twixt us and their Successors in Cruelty In this thou seemest noval Thou art pleased among many more in behalf of Tythes to appear an Advocate against us but whether the King Priest Pope Presbyter c. have in thy Sense Right to them is yet in Resence but we Thieves and Robbers for taking and detaining what 's not our own strange severe Judgment So that from a pretended Compassionator of our grievous Sufferings thou pr●sently sheweth thy self an open Accuser of the Oppressed and how Justly I question not to manifest in its place Thou puttest this Question What Right in the People to Tythes alledging That if the People have not Right 't will not concern our Consciences whether King Priest Pope or who will take them A strange Assertion the like to my Knowledge I never before met withal What I not concern the Conscience of a Christian whether the Tenth of his Labour Industry and all he has and enjoys by the Blessing of God be given up to the Praise of his Maker or to the Pope Priest Belial Devil who will take them I do really demand of thee to search all the Dark and Hellish Traditions of the Jews that made void the Law of God and all the
but in the Ages past since the Apostacy have for Conscience sake born their Testimony against TYTHES Wherein is Demonstrated That it is directly contrary to Christ's Commission given to his Ministers and contrary to the Apostles Practice Occasioned through C. N's Unreasonable and Unchristian like Contending for the Lawfulness of Tythes By G. W. a Lover of the Truth He that Justifieth the Wicked and he that Condemneth the Just are both an Abeminaiion to the Lord Prov. 17. 15. Printed in the Year 1673. TYTHES No Gospel-Ordinance MAN by Wisdom knows not God neither can the Things of God be found out by Man's Wisdom but are altogether hid from it they are of too pure a Nature for that Eye to see or for that Heart to receive But there is an Eye that God in his Loving-kindness has opened that can with great Delight behold those Glorious Truth● that he has promised and there is a Heart that can Rejoyce in the sensible Feeling of the opening of that Wisdom that the World by all their Wisdom cannot see or know This was it that caused Abraham to Rejoyce who saw the Day of Christ his Eye affected his Heart he rejoyced at what he saw and blessed Paul counted all things Loss in respect of this True Wisdom and Knowledge which only is to be found in Christ Jesus through the Death of the Cross which crucifies unto all this World's Wisdom and Glory so that Death having past thereon that New Life may be witnessed wherein all things become New and into this Life hath the Lord our God begotten a Remnant which are accounted to him for a Generation unto whom he has revealed his Counsels and his Wisdom is with them and by it are they made able to judge of things that differ and in which Judgment we certainly find where Men's Standings are the Lord being come in Numbers of his Saints to Judge the Inhabitants of the Earth so it was in the Apostles dayes and so it is now in the True Church For the Spiritual Man judgeth all things yet is ●e Judged of no Man and without all Doubt the Apostle in those Dayes by the Wise Men of this World was esteemed a Boaster yet was he certain of what he said knowing that in the True Wisdom of the Spirit of God they could fathom all Men but could not be fathom'd by them that were out of this Wisdom The Wisdom of the Servants of the Lord is in the Light from above but the others is in the Darkness from below which cannot comprehend the Light nor those that live therein Yet Vain Man in this Fallen Wisdom will be a Judging and speaking Evil of the things he knows not among whom is found C. N. although to his great Infamy and Confusion who has wedded the Cause that Antichrist by his Servants has supported against the true Christians in many Ages and hath justified that Ungodly Generation condemned the Generation the Righteous who in the Patience of the Lamb and in his Living Testimony have born their Testimony against that Carnal Imposition and Maintenance of Tythes as do testifie Records in Ecelesiastical Matters witness that Truly Noble-Minded William Thorpe who among the rest of the Testimonies he had for the Lord this was one against Tythes he lived in the dayes of Henry the 4th of England and was persecuted by Thomas Arundell the then Arch Bishop of Canterbury a Man highly infamous for his Envy to the Truth and to those that followed the Lord according to the Measure of Light they had then received where Thorpe openly declared That although Tythes were brought in and ordained by Gregory the 10th yet it was not consonant nor agreeable to Truth nor the Practice of the Apostle Paul whose Example saith he all ought to follow even as he was a Follower of Jesus Christ who received no Tythes neither did his Disciples but God opened the Hearts of those they went unto so that they had no Lack and some wrought with their Hands that so the Gospel might not be thought Burthensom by any such Care took they of the Gospel The whole Discourse of William Thorpe with Thomas Arundell touching this Matter would be too tedious to insert here although it is truly deserving our Knowledge and may be found at large in Fox's Acts and Monuments in his Universal History fol. 669 700. Thus we may perceive that the Honest-hearted not only in this Age but in several Ages have born their Testimony 〈◊〉 this settled and forced Maintenance as being bad in its Original and that that is Bad in its Root cannot be Good in its Fruits It was a Work brought forth in the fallen Wisdom because directly Contrary to that Way that Christ ordered his Ministers to walk in for when they were to go forth they were not to make any Provision but to relie on the Lord that sent them forth and when they returned their Answer was That they lacked nothing And the Apostles who were the true Ministers in the true Church followed the same Example who had the Lord to take Care of them who alwayes takes Care of his own But the Wisdom of this World hath fashioned out to it self a Church some after one Fashion some after another so that the whole of their Inventions makes up a Spiritual Babel and all her Likenesses and Imitations are truly discerned by those that follow the Lamb her gilded Cup cannot deceive them the Elect of God cannot be deceived it is not possible they should neither canst thee C. N. deceive them although thou appear with a very fine spun Thread of Babel's Wisdom yet in the Wisdom of the Lord which is with his People thou the rest of you that are concerned in this Work are found out weighed in the Ballance of God's Sanctuary found to be of one Spirit with the former Builders of Babel that were in times past whose Names stink to Posterity and thus have brought on your own Heads all the Righteous Blood that hath been shed on this Accompt and it doth cry to God for Vengeance because you have opposed the Righteous Seed in many Ages and still do notwithstanding that the Lord has very eminently appeared for and with his Servants on this Accompt by enabling them in the Virtue of his own life to testifie against the Hireling and his Wayes who cryes to the People Hear the Word of the Lord and they have it not neither hath the Lord sent them But Christ's Sheep knows his Voice and a Stranger they will not follow and therefore it is we cannot follow thee C. N. thy Voice is a Strangers Voice thou savourest not the things that are of God but of the Serpent wherefore we may justly say to thee get thee behind us Satan For what dost thou aim at Is it not to save thy self or is it not that thou wouldst provide for the Hirelings of thy own Fraternity hoping that you shall yet see such dayes as you despise