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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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thence_o follow_v that_o infant_n that_o do_v not_o join_v themselves_o thereunto_o be_v guilty_a thereof_o except_v what_o must_v be_v allow_v to_o the_o quaker_n as_o their_o peculiar_a dialect_n this_o be_v not_o far_o different_a from_o what_o the_o arminian_n say_v apol._n cap._n 7_o fol._n 84._o they_o own_v not_o original_a sin_n as_o a_o proper_a sin_n which_o make_v adam_n posterity_n obnoxious_a to_o god_n ha●red_a nor_o as_o a_o evil_a which_o come_v upon_o they_o as_o a_o proper_a punishment_n but_o as_o a_o evil_a infirmity_n vice_n or_o by_o what_o other_o name_n it_o can_v be_v call_v which_o be_v propagate_v from_o adam_n void_a of_o original_a righteousness_n whence_o all_o his_o posterity_n be_v destitute_a of_o the_o same_o righteousness_n and_o indispose_v for_o life_n eternal_a etc._n etc._n the_o socinian_o speak_v also_o much_o after_o this_o man_n dialect_n for_o smalcius_n say_v we_o confess_v that_o we_o be_v now_o corrupt_a and_o far_o from_o that_o state_n of_o innocency_n which_o adam_n have_v but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o the_o fall_n of_o adam_n but_o to_o man_n themselves_o who_o of_o their_o own_o accord_n corrupt_v themselves_o and_o ostorodus_n say_v we_o willing_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a proclivity_n to_o sin_n almost_o in_o all_o man_n but_o that_o come_v not_o from_o the_o first_o sin_n but_o from_o man_n corrupt_v of_o themselves_o which_o afterward_o they_o propagate_v to_o their_o child_n but_o to_o return_v to_o our_o quaker_n 1._o in_o what_o tolerable_a or_o intelligible_a sense_n can_v he_o yield_v that_o adam_n be_v a_o public_a person_n if_o what_o he_o do_v as_o such_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v as_o do_v by_o all_o who_o he_o do_v represent_v do_v ever_o any_o hear_v of_o one_o state_v as_o a_o public_a person_n who_o fail_n can_v have_v no_o e●fect_n until_o the_o person_n represent_v do_v testify_v their_o approbation_n of_o it_o by_o this_o reason_n if_o adam_n have_v stand_v and_o continue_v in_o innocency_n infant_n can_v have_v have_v no_o benefit_n thereby_o for_o if_o the_o evil_a that_o adam_n do_v as_o a_o public_a person_n can_v not_o hurt_v infant_n neither_o can_v his_o good_a have_v advantage_v they_o and_o then_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v wherein_o do_v consist_v his_o be_v a_o public_a person_n or_o what_o he_o think_v a_o public_a person_n be_v 2._o whether_o be_v this_o seed_n of_o sin_n itself_o sin_n or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v not_o sin_n why_o call_v he_o it_o afterward_o the_o original_a of_o all_o sin_n why_o call_v he_o it_o the_o body_n of_o death_n and_o the_o old_a adam_n the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o these_o as_o master_n sin_n if_o it_o be_v sin_n how_o can_v it_o be_v propagate_v to_o all_o man_n and_o to_o infant_n among_o other_o and_o they_o not_o be_v denominate_v sinful_a thereby_o can_v the_o seed_n of_o sin_n be_v transmit_v to_o infant_n and_o they_o be_v the_o subject_n ●hereof_o and_o yet_o they_o not_o be_v sinful_a shall_v the_o seed_n of_o all_o poison_n and_o venom_n be_v transmit_v from_o the_o old_a serpent_n to_o the_o young_a and_o shall_v the_o young_a thereby_o not_o be_v account_v poysonful_a and_o venomous_a 3._o he_o say_v this_o seed_n incline_v those_o in_o who_o it_o be_v unto_o sin_n but_o this_o inclination_n to_o sin_n be_v sin_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n therefore_o infant_n in_o who_o be_v this_o seed_n incline_v to_o sin_n must_v have_v sin_n within_o they_o 4._o this_o which_o he_o say_v be_v propagate_v by_o adam_n to_o all_o his_o posterity_n be_v either_o something_o good_a or_o something_o evil_a good_a it_o can_v be_v because_o of_o what_o be_v say_v if_o it_o be_v evil_a it_o must_v either_o be_v the_o evil_a of_o sin_n or_o the_o evil_n of_o punishment_n or_o both_o if_o it_o be_v the_o evil_a of_o sin_n than_o sin_n be_v propagate_v if_o it_o be_v the_o evil_a of_o punishment_n than_o it_o presuppose_v sin_n for_o all_o punishment_n that_o be_v just_a be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n poenam_fw-la istam_fw-la esse_fw-la say_fw-la august_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr lib._n arb_n c._n 18._o quis_fw-la dubitet_fw-la omnis_fw-la autem_fw-la poena_fw-la si_fw-la justa_fw-la est_fw-la peccati_fw-la poena_fw-la est_fw-la &_o supplicium_fw-la nominatut_o 5._o but_o it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v with_o the_o arminian_n that_o because_o it_o be_v a_o punishment_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sin_n but_o th●_n scripture_n call_v it_o sin_n and_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n indwell_v sin_n and_o several_a other_o epithet_n it_o get_v all_o show_v that_o it_o be_v sin_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o so_o deserve_a death_n spiritual_a temporal_a and_o eternal_a let_v he_o consider_v col._n 2_o 11._o &_o 3_o 11._o ephes_n 4_o 22._o rom._n 6_o 6_o &_o 7_o 17._o not_o to_o mention_v rom._n 7_o 15._o etc._n etc._n and_o himself_o call_v it_o the_o fountain_n and_o spring_n of_o all_o actual_a transgression_n and_o that_o concupiscence_n which_o james_n show_v to_o be_v the_o spring_n of_o evil_n jam._n 1_o 14._o paul_n call_v sin_n rom._n 7_o 7_o 18._o &_o be_v prohibit_v by_o the_o law_n say_v thou_o shall_v not_o covet_v 6._o julianus_n the_o pelagian_a speak_v at_o this_o rate_n say_v that_o the_o law_n in_o our_o member_n which_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o law_n of_o our_o mind_n dwell_v indeed_o in_o man_n and_o do_v instigat_fw-la the_o resist_a mind_n so_o that_o the_o conflict_n though_o it_o be_v not_o damnable_a because_o it_o do_v not_o perfect_a sin_n yet_o be_v miserable_a because_o it_o have_v not_o peace_n see_v august_n lib._n 1._o adv_n jul._n c._n 68_o to_o which_o augustine_n reply_v that_o it_o be_v madness_n in_o the_o man_n to_o confess_v that_o sin_n be_v evil_a and_o yet_o say_v that_o the_o concupiscence_n of_o sin_n be_v good_a and_o yet_o more_o intolerable_a to_o say_v that_o it_o do_v provoke_v to_o evil_a and_o yet_o be_v not_o evil_a and_o else_o where_o in_o the_o same_o book_n cap._n 83._o he_o charge_v manicheisme_n upon_o julianus_n upon_o this_o account_n that_o he_o grant_v misery_n do_v attend_v the_o posterity_n and_o yet_o will_v not_o grant_v sin_n be_v impute_v tu_fw-la ergo_fw-la adjutorem_fw-la manichaei_n te_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la ostende_v si_fw-la potes_fw-la qui_fw-la miserias_fw-la hominum_fw-la cum_fw-la quibus_fw-la eos_fw-la nasoi_fw-la quoniam_fw-la sine_fw-la dubio_fw-la sentit_fw-la genus_fw-la humanum_fw-la no●ens_fw-la tribuere_fw-la peccato_fw-la vitiatae_fw-la naturae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la facis_fw-la ut_fw-la eas_fw-la ille_fw-la permixtae_fw-la nobis_fw-la naturae_fw-la tribuat_fw-la altenae_fw-la 7._o this_o man_n will_v fain_o have_v fasten_v this_o sin_n upon_o we_o that_o we_o make_v god_n unrighteous_a and_o unjust_a but_o here_o he_o declare_v himself_o manifest_o chargeable_a therewith_o for_o evil_a and_o misery_n he_o grant_v be_v propagate_v to_o all_o man_n and_o the_o seed_n of_o sin_n which_o incline_v to_o sin_n and_o yet_o will_v not_o have_v sin_n the_o procure_a cause_n propagate_v quia_fw-la ergo_fw-la say_fw-la august_n lib._n 2._o cont_n jul._n op_n posth_n cap_n 110._o gravi_fw-la jugo_fw-la à_fw-la die_fw-la exitus_fw-la de_fw-fr ventre_fw-fr matris_fw-la puniti_fw-la sunt_fw-la parvuli_fw-la agnosce_fw-la judicem_fw-la justum_fw-la &_o confitere_fw-la originale_fw-la peccatum_fw-la punire_fw-la enim_fw-la nullius_fw-la peccati_fw-la meritum_fw-la habentes_fw-la sicut_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipse_fw-la confiteris_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la sine_fw-la eversione_n justitiae_fw-la &_o in_o the_o follow_a chapt._n he_o have_v these_o word_n in_o illo_fw-la gravi_fw-la jugo_fw-la quo_fw-la etiam_fw-la parvuli_fw-la premuntur_fw-la quomodo_fw-la est_fw-la justus_n deus_fw-la si_fw-la nullus_fw-la nascitur_fw-la reus_fw-la 8._o he_o talk_v of_o infant_n join_v themselves_o unto_o this_o seed_n of_o sin_n before_o they_o become_v guilty_a but_o when_o
that_o look_v upon_o the_o place_n that_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o end_n he_o may_v clear_v up_o the_o way_n how_o believer_n partake_v of_o the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n death_n make_v a_o comparison_n betwixt_o adam_n and_o christ_n and_o so_o clear_v up_o how_o it_o be_v that_o all_o mankind_n be_v become_v corrupt_a and_o that_o in_o and_o through_o the_o first_o man_n adam_n from_o who_o this_o corruption_n be_v derive_v not_o by_o imitation_n for_o they_o can_v imitate_v it_o who_o never_o hear_v of_o it_o and_o yet_o even_o they_o partake_v of_o this_o corruption_n therefore_o by_o real_a participation_n of_o the_o guilt_n say_v verse_n 12._o as_o by_o one_o man_n sin_n enter_v into_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o in_o he_o all_o sin_v and_o afterward_o that_o upon_o this_o sin_n death_n pass_v upon_o all_o man_n and_o reign_v even_o over_o they_o that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o similitude_n of_o adam_n transgression_n that_o be_v over_o infant_n that_o 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which_o viz._n occasion_n or_o in_o which_o viz._n death_n all_o other_o do_v sin_n i._n e._n actual_o in_o their_o person_n viz._n who_o be_v capable_a of_o sin_v of_o which_o number_n infant_n be_v not_o who_o be_v under_o no_o law_n as_o be_v show_v and_o where_o no_o law_n be_v there_o be_v no_o transgression_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v this_o upon_o the_o matter_n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o old_a pelagian_n say_v as_o vossius_fw-la show_v we_o hist._n pelag._n pag._n 182.183_o for_o they_o interpret_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o who_o all_o have_v sin_v by_o sin_v after_o example_n or_o imitation_n and_o this_o man_n by_o sin_v upon_o that_o occasion_n when_o they_o become_v capable_a and_o the_o socinian_o with_o episcopius_n homologate_v with_o the_o pelagian_n and_o have_v be_v abundant_o answer_v by_o the_o orthodox_n who_o show_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o same_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o xenophon_n 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intercession_n and_o prayer_n be_v restrict_v to_o such_o joh._n 17_o 9_o i_o pray_v not_o for_o the_o world_n but_o for_o they_o which_o thou_o have_v give_v i_o for_o they_o be_v thou_o 6._o christ_n end_n in_o come_v into_o the_o world_n be_v to_o save_v his_o people_n hence_o he_o gote_v that_o name_n jesus_n but_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o save_v they_o perfect_o compleet_o and_o to_o the_o utermost_a if_o he_o do_v not_o join_v his_o intercession_n with_o his_o oblation_n yea_o upon_o this_o account_n he_o continue_v ever_o a_o priest_n have_v a_o unchangeable_a priesthood_n heb._n ●_o 24_o 25._o but_o this_o man_n because_o he_o continue_v ever_o have_v a_o unchangeable_a priesthood_n wherefore_o he_o be_v able_a to_o save_v they_o to_o the_o uttermost_a that_o come_v unto_o god_n by_o he_o see_v he_o ever_o live_v to_o make_v intercession_n for_o they_o 7._o the_o apostle_n so_o join_v they_o together_o rom._n 8_o 34._o that_o they_o must_v do_v manifest_a violence_n 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augustine_n polycarp_n and_o other_o the_o primitive_a christian_n will_v not_o swear_v it_o be_v true_a neither_o by_o the_o genius_n nor_o by_o the_o fortune_n of_o the_o imperious_a see_v tertul._n apol._n cap._n 31._o and_o from_o this_o some_o may_v gather_v that_o they_o will_v not_o swear_v at_o all_o which_o be_v certain_o a_o mistake_n and_o we_o read_v that_o the_o primitive_a christian_n do_v swear_v to_o be_v faithful_a to_o the_o emperor_n as_o vossius_fw-la show_v out_o of_o vegetius_n lib_n 2._o cap._n 5._o &_o arnobius_n lib._n 4._o see_v also_o dio_n in_o m._n antonino_o tertul._n the_o cor._n mil._n c._n 1._o eusebii_n histor_n lib_n 5._o c._n 5._o he_o show_v also_o how_o they_o use_v to_o swear_v by_o the_o eucharist_n out_o of_o eusebii_n histor._n lib._n 6._o chap._n 35_o the_o last_o argument_n which_o he_o mention_v be_v not_o worth_a the_o name_n and_o so_o i_o leave_v it_o 14._o for_o a_o conclusion_n to_o this_o let_v we_o take_v notice_n that_o augustine_n 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pigros_fw-la esse_fw-la homines_fw-la ad_fw-la credendum_fw-la quod_fw-la et_z utile_fw-la est_fw-la credere_fw-la nisi_fw-la juratione_fw-la firmetur_fw-la chap._n xxxi_o of_o civil_a honour_n 1._o beside_o what_o belong_v proper_o to_o civil_a honour_n of_o which_o we_o be_v now_o to_o speak_v there_o be_v other_o two_o particular_n which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o speak_v something_o to_o in_o his_o vindication_n of_o his_o last_o thesis_n to_o wit_n against_o vanity_n &_o prodigality_n in_o apparel_n and_o against_o comedy_n and_o such_o play_n concern_v which_o i_o mind_n to_o be_v no_o adversary_n unto_o he_o only_o i_o must_v say_v he_o must_v be_v very_o affront_v and_o shameless_a to_o suppose_v let_v be_v to_o say_v that_o all_o his_o adversary_n conten●_n for_o these_o as_o lawful_a and_o as_o no_o way_n contrary_a to_o christian_a religion_n
their_o practice_n no_o way_n justify_v for_o though_o some_o title_n of_o honour_n be_v not_o to_o be_v approven_v as_o what_o protestant_a will_v allow_v of_o that_o give_v to_o the_o pope_n yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v hence_o infer_v that_o no_o title_n be_v to_o be_v give_v there_o may_v be_v a_o mid_a way_n betwixt_o two_o extreme_n and_o though_o no_o title_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o any_o to_o testify_v our_o respect_n to_o and_o esteem_v for_o person_n of_o eminency_n whether_o as_o to_o power_n and_o authority_n or_o as_o to_o gift_n and_o part_n yet_o this_o can_v make_v nothing_o for_o their_o blunt_a and_o rustic_a thou_o and_o thou_o he_o add_v some_o reason_n as_o 1._o these_o title_n be_v no_o part_n of_o that_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o magistrate_n nor_o be_v any_o thing_n thereby_o add_v to_o that_o subjection_n which_o consist_v in_o obedience_n to_o their_o lawful_a command_n answ._n though_o it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o obedience_n to_o use_v title_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v a_o part_n of_o that_o honour_n and_o respect_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o and_o the_o five_o command_n say_v honour_v thy_o father_n and_o thy_o mother_n and_o certain_o it_o be_v no_o sign_n of_o honour_n to_o magistrate_n and_o great_a personage_n to_o speak_v to_o they_o no_o otherways_o then_o we_o will_v do_v to_o our_o footboy_n as_o the_o quaker_n do_v 2._o say_v he_o we_o find_v not_o such_o title_n in_o the_o scripture_n either_o under_o the_o law_n or_o under_o the_o gospel_n but_o when_o prince_n or_o noble_n &_o king_n be_v speak_v to_o this_o simple_a compellation_n be_v use_v o_o king_n or_o with_o the_o addition_n of_o the_o name_n of_o the_o person_n as_o king_n agrippa_z answ._n 1_o we_o have_v see_v other_o title_n of_o honour_n and_o respect_n above_o as_o my_o lord_n o_o king_n and_o this_o our_o quaker_n will_v not_o give_v to_o the_o high_a nor_o do_v this_o man_n in_o all_o his_o epistle_n dedicatory_a to_o the_o king_n prefix_v to_o his_o apology_n say_v so_o much_o as_o once_o o_o king_n or_o my_o lord_n o_o king_n only_o he_o give_v he_o thou_o and_o thou_o as_o he_o will_v give_v his_o own_o servant_n 2._o these_o compellation_n according_a to_o the_o then_o custom_n be_v the_o high_a and_o only_o give_v to_o king_n and_o inferior_a person_n have_v their_o own_o peculiar_a title_n and_o as_o no_o man_n do_v then_o scruple_n to_o give_v high_a person_n title_n or_o style_n due_a to_o their_o place_n according_a to_o the_o receive_a custom_n of_o the_o time_n and_o place_n why_o shall_v these_o scruple_n now_o and_o not_o only_o refuse_v to_o give_v they_o such_o title_n as_o be_v now_o usual_a but_o refuse_v to_o give_v they_o any_o at_o all_o or_o to_o put_v any_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o and_o the_o poor_a beggar_n that_o sit_v on_o the_o dung_n hill_n this_o evince_v that_o though_o they_o pretend_v want_n of_o scripture_n warrant_v yet_o there_o be_v some_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o real_a cause_n 7._o his._n 3_o reason_n be_v this_o lay_v a_o necessity_n on_o christian_n to_o lie_v in_o give_v the_o title_n of_o grace_n and_o eminency_n etc._n etc._n to_o such_o as_o have_v nothing_o worthy_a of_o these_o or_o answer_v they_o answ._n under_o favour_n of_o his_o thouship_n he_o mistake_v the_o ground_n of_o these_o title_n suppose_v that_o they_o be_v give_v because_o of_o personal_a correspond_v enduement_n while_o as_o they_o be_v only_o give_v because_o of_o that_o place_n and_o power_n which_o they_o in_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n be_v in_o possession_n of_o but_o neither_o can_v this_o pretext_n be_v a_o real_a ground_n of_o their_o practice_n for_o they_o will_v not_o give_v any_o title_n to_o their_o own_o brethren_n the_o quaker_n in_o who_o they_o there_fw-mi not_o deny_v but_o christ_n be_v and_o live_v yea_o and_o the_o whole_a trinity_n which_o when_o i_o think_v upon_o i_o wonder_v they_o do_v not_o fall_v down_o and_o worshipe_n one_o another_o see_v they_o acknowledge_v that_o christ_n and_o the_o trinity_n be_v in_o every_o quaker_n but_o i_o remember_v what_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v to_o i._o naylor_n at_o bristol_n it_o may_v be_v they_o shall_v do_v so_o to_o one_o another_o ere_o long_o and_o will_v have_v do_v so_o ere_o now_o if_o fear_n have_v not_o hinder_v it_o and_o what_o mean_v their_o gaze_v one_o upon_o another_o a_o considerable_a time_n when_o they_o first_o meet_v this_o will_v look_v like_o some_o sort_n of_o worshipe_n if_o not_o it_o be_v like_o the_o reason_n be_v that_o and_o thus_o can_v only_o their_o practice_n be_v reconcile_v with_o their_o principle_n their_o god_n and_o their_o christ_n and_o their_o trinity_n which_o they_o say_v be_v in_o every_o man_n dormant_a but_o live_v the_o light_n have_v gote_v room_n and_o enlargement_n in_o the_o quaker_n be_v not_o the_o true_a and_o live_a god_n but_o a_o god_n of_o their_o own_o make_n and_o imagination_n and_o this_o i_o believe_v to_o be_v true_a his_o 4._o reason_n touch_v the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n and_o there_o we_o reject_v both_o place_n and_o title_n his_o 5._o reason_n be_v against_o the_o title_n of_o majesty_n give_v to_o king_n which_o he_o say_v be_v especial_o and_o peculiar_o give_v to_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o to_o man_n but_o he_o be_v here_o also_o mistake_v for_o though_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o god_n 1_o chron._n 29_o 11._o yet_o vers_fw-la 25._o which_o his_o concordance_n may_v have_v point_v he_o to_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o lord_n magnify_v solomon_n exceed_o in_o the_o fight_n of_o all_o israel_n and_o bestow_v upon_o he_o royal_a majesty_n and_o psal._n 21_o 5._o another_o of_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o it_o be_v not_o give_v to_o god_n but_o by_o god_n to_o the_o king_n and_o psal._n 29_o 4._o another_o of_o his_o citation_n it_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o thunder_n what_o mean_v this_o man_n thus_o to_o cite_v scripture_n at_o random_n without_o once_o consider_v what_o he_o be_v do_v he_o add_v that_o proud_a nabuchadnezzar_n take_v this_o title_n to_o himself_o dan._n 4_o 30._o and_o be_v short_o therefore_o rebuke_v answ._n why_o do_v he_o not_o look_v also_o vers_fw-la 36._o where_o excellent_a majesty_n be_v add_v unto_o he_o after_o his_o restauration_n and_o why_o do_v he_o not_o look_v to_o dan._n 5_o 18._o where_o daniel_n say_v that_o the_o most_o high_a god_n give_v nabuchadnezzar_n a_o kingdom_n and_o majesty_n and_o glory_n and_o honour_n and_o again_o vers_fw-la 19_o &_o for_o the_o majesty_n that_o he_o give_v he_o &_o c_o his_o concordance_n can_v have_v help_v he_o here_o to_o have_v correct_v his_o own_o mistake_n but_o his_o light_n be_v asleep_a 8._o he_o add_v a_o 5._o reason_n pag._n 339._o all_o these_o title_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v because_o we_o be_v to_o seek_v the_o honour_n which_o be_v from_o god_n and_o not_o that_o which_o be_v from_o below_o answ._n we_o be_v not_o plead_v for_o ambitious_a seek_v of_o honour_n from_o man_n more_o than_o the_o praise_n of_o god_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n the_o reject_v of_o christ_n and_o the_o profession_n of_o his_o name_n for_o fear_v of_o miss_v thereby_o the_o honour_n applause_n and_o esteem_n of_o man_n this_o be_v not_o it_o we_o plead_v for_o and_o this_o be_v it_o which_o christ_n condemn_v joh._n 5_o 44._o &_o 12_o 43._o but_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o give_v honour_n to_o who_o honour_n be_v due_a what_o he_o speak_v of_o art_n and_o wile_n use_v to_o obtain_v these_o honour_n make_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o this_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o practice_n else_o they_o shall_v give_v honour_n to_o some_o for_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o say_v that_o all_o use_v such_o indirect_a course_n as_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v acquant_v with_o what_o he_o say_v of_o honour_v the_o just_a and_o holy_a one_o be_v against_o himself_o for_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v one_o another_o at_o least_o not_o in_o a_o way_n that_o we_o can_v 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