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A87242	A true copy of a second letter, sent from the Lord of Inchiquine to the honorable Collonell Michaell Iones commander in chiefe of the Parliaments forces in Leinster, and governor of the citty of Dublin, vvith Colonell Iones his answer, to the Lord of Inchiquines saied letter.	Inchiquin, Murrough O'Brien, Earl of, 1614-1674.; Jones, Michael, d. 1649.	1649 (1649)	Wing I135B; ESTC R223518	7,161	20

discourses and a verball Conference which was that spoken of and that at the distance wee are with each other was not in prudence to bee admitted especially in causes of this consequence The Lord of Oxmonde soe apprehended it whole transactions first with the Irish and after with the Parliament Commissioners passed not in discourses but in writting and that as to very circumstances writeing surely not conference is the prudent and cleare way for such proceedings let not therefore my declining that your way be apprehended as proceeding either out of diffidence of my cause or from a Resolution to bold the conclusion without respect had to the premisses or out of any distrust of your ingenuity but as not being a way secure and fatisfactory Neither am I enabled by the Parliament to dispute and debate their intrests otherwise then in the way wee now are by the Sword wherin I doubt not of a good conclusion the Lord asisting mee It troubles you much that I mention the Lords blessing this his owne cause with us you say that God blesseth men in evill courses A good cause I know may some time suffer Yet is it not incongruous Circumstances considered to conclude the justice of a cause from Gods blessing it seeing his blessing is expected and assured to his worke by speciall promise the sinnes of those therein instrumentall not interposing But it seemes very strange what you say and the Stranger if it bee the sence of those Divines with you that God blesseth men in evill courses Gods suffering them for a time to proceed in evill succesfully is not a blessing of them in evill courses there being to evill none of Gods blessings appropriated But for us it is our comfort that wee can and doe thus boast of the Lords blessing this his worke in our hands wherein hath been mightily visibly magnified the Glorie of his power and truth and goodnesse even in the lowest of our Condition to us an Evidence of his owne cause with us And in soe concluding I but assume the same freedome which your Lordship hath done you having in effect soe concluded from the succesfullnes of your Sword And this our cause is the same with that which your Lordship seemed then to hold Your Lordship justifieth your joyning with the Rebells by way of Recrimination objecting the same to others If to mee you intend it I speake it plainly it is a Charge very unjust to say no more But as to your selfe you stick not openly to professe and justify your proceedings in that kinde asserting it a Christian act for therein you say you Received penitents strange Penitents are they who after soe much blood and spoile of Innocents are now soe farre from satisfiing their wrong doings that they professe themselves not guilty and whose Penitence is only in that they failed in accomplishing their evill in fullnes which in the now setling them in that power given in your Christian union with them they may haue hereafter fitting opertunity to accomplish to the uttermost soe as they may not need further Penitence in that Particular You smile you say at that Charged to you of your Changing At it my Lord do your Enemies smile but griefe it is to your friends and all well affected who your friend can smile at your falling away and to speake plainely at your betraying that trust reposed in you can you smile at you turning that sword put into your hands by the Parliament against those who have soe trusted and maintained you were you called out against these bloody Rebells and for the Protestants and can you smile to see your selfe now in the head of those very Rebells or with them and for them and that against even English and Protestants can you smile my Lord in your betraying those poore English your Care and trust and in offering them up in time a sacrifice to the malice of their mortall Enemies having first removed and by their hands alsoe which is intended those here who pitty them and by whom they might bee from those evills rescued You tell me that you have not changed your Cause but your Party and what was your Cause then I beseech you and what is it now was not the prosecution of this Warre against the Rebells then your Cause this was surely your Trust and for any thing appearing was it that only or principally in your trust and are you not now taken of from this is this your Cause now are you not now changed to the quite contrary your Cause you say is the maintenance of the King of Laws of Religion and of the Liberties of Parliament so indeed in your Covenant But your sticking unto these if unto them you sticke excuseth you nothing as to your failing in that principally Committed to you in that Province the employing those Armes and powers given you against the Rebells our common Enemies There is not the meanest Covenanter who pretends not equall intrest with you in these common engagements but you were besides all hese eminently called above others to that high trust from which you have soe fallen as your Honour is no way salved no● vindi●ated by a pretended adheiring to other your profession your doing somethings excuseth not your failing in that principally expected from you You object to us new raised Heresies c. wee detest them as much as you or any neither account we them any part of our Doctrine and of the Religion now professed in the Church of England I wish some of your Lordships Divines now with you whose pennes are parhapps in this Charge to us were not chargable with corruption in that kinde makeing way for Heresies and even for Popery it selfe alsoe being thereby with others of like straine authors of those evills this day covering the face of Church and State whereof they may bee in due time sensible Much more you say might bee said in your defence I beseech your Lordship to re●erve it for some time of better leasure and for some other person fitter for such debateings Wha● I have now done was for shewing my selfe nothing satisfied with any thing yet by your Lordship delivered and that others might not bee abused in suffering yours to passe me unanswered But for the future I desire your Lordship would be pleased not to trouble your selfe not mee in thi● kinde any further I am otherwise emploved then to spend time in answering some there whose penns are at better leasure then either yours or mine at present So I remaine My Lord Your Lordships humble Servant Mic Iones Dublin Iune 23th 1649. For the Lord Baron of Inchiquine These

A TRVE COPY OF A second letter sent from the Lord of Inchiquine to the Honorable Collonell Michaell Iones Commander in chiefe of the Parliaments Forces in Leinster AND Governor of the Citty of Dublin VVith Colonell Iones his Answer To the Lord of Inchiquines saied Letter DVBLIN Printed by William Bladen 1649 Sir I Have receiued yours of the 21th of Iune wherein you referre mee for answer to part of mine of Iune 20th to what hath passed betweene you and his Excellency the Marquis of Ormonde when I perused those papers of yours I observed how you put of the maine objections against the chiefe actors in England as not concerning you at all can the horrid and treasonable Paricide of a lawfull Soveraigne by rebellious Subjects contrary to all laws of God and man contrary to soe many oathes and obligations detested by all Europe the abrogation of the antient liberties and priviledges of Parliament the totall subvertion of the fundamentall constitutions of their native country the extreamest violation of the rights and properties of their fellow subjects and the assuming of an absolute arbitrary power over their lives and fortunes by the Sword be crimes of the highest nature in the Actors and yet the maintainers and abbetters of them in their Tirannicall vsurpations remaine innocent and unconcerned I observed further how you plead his Majesties limitation of his Regall power and his committing of the managery of the Irish warre to his two houses of Parliament in England and upon that foundation you ground the justice of your Proceedings suppose the laws of England did tye our common Soveraignes hands from doing acts of grace in Ireland suppose they did obliege the subjects of this Kingdome in their lives and Estates without their owne consents yea before they bee heard suppose this doe not render the subjects of Ireland the veriest slaves in the world nor make voide our free charters as antient and as large as those of England it selfe suppose that solemne Act to introduce the English statutes into Ireland to have been needlesse superfluous supposing all you will have to be supposed yet now there is not the least shadow of the two houses remaining the upper house being quite taken away and the house of Commons become a suppositions changling certainely they are none of his Majesties two houses which have taken away both Majesty Monarchy Lastly that warre hath noe affinity with this That was to suppresse Rebellion this to maintaine Rebellion That was to defend the Protestant Religion the liberties of Parliament the rights of the subject this is meerely for the subvertion of all theise p●●der those things seriously without prejudice and you will quickly finde what tottering grounds you have laied to support the weight of soe much Christian blood and the devastation of the whole Kingdome and how little you have answered to his Excellencies reasons I proposed a conference and you reject it as not consisting with Prudence in matters of this consequence and subject in these times to construstions and misconstructions Certainely if advice and deliberation be necessary it is in maters of moment and Consequence If you be your selfe that is free to follow reason and Conscience and not engaged to the dictates of other men nor willfully wedded to an implicit faith but ready to imbrace the truth whensoever it shall be revealed which every good Christian ought to be a conference had been the likeliest meanes to take away misconstructions and beget better constructions This made the office of Embassadors soe sacred that quarrells might not become immortall for want of conference right vnderstanding There is a blessing promised to Peace-makers but a judgment hangs over their heads who nourish contentions This rejecting of a conference seemes to me to argue strongly either a diffidence in your cause or a resolution to hold the conclusion without any regard of the premisses or a distrust of my ingenuity We both professe the same ends why should we differ soe much in the meanes I thought a conference would take away the vaile and either discover our difference in the first or have happily reconciled us in the later to which I was resolved to come without prejudice or obstinacy contending more for truth then for victory as willing to have condiscended to you had you been in the right as I am unwilling to depart from you ●●w because I am assured that you are in the wroung It is indifferent to me what cause is right soe I be in the right cause And though I have left your party because you have left your principles it is but as a man leaves his brothers house whilest it is infected with some contagious disease with a minde to pray for you and a desire of revnion with you soe soone as I may with safety This is not to forsake you but to provide for myselfe you say you are satisfied in the justice of your cause admitt you be soe yet take heed this be not for want of due discussion or out of an implicit trust and adherence to others or a prejudice in your affections which robbes and betraies reason of its due succours and like a false glasse makes things appear otherwise then in truth they are Be it spoken without the beast disparagdment to your person or partes which I honour and desire to love you cannot be more resolute then Saul was in his pharisaicall opinions or then many thousand heretickes and Shismatickes of all sortes in the world are at this day who might be cured if they did not stopp their cares against the voice of the Charmer Principles may be erronious and nothing is more ordinary then to mistake a party for a principle The only reason which you give for your resolution is that Gods blessing hath dwelt visibly upon your cause as still it doth when God blesseth men in evill courses it is the greatest judgment his waies are alwaies just but often secret The evening commends the day and the conclusion often differs from the first Acts of the Tragily howsoever ascribe not that to the meritts of your cause which may be due to the sinnes of the advers party My sword you say hath been prosperous but you advise mee to consider the cause wherein I then appeared If over my cause were just which you confesse it is soe still and therefore I may still hope for the same blessings yet the prosperous●●es of it did not assure mee that it was good but the goodnes of it did and still doth give mee hopes that it will be prosperous But you tax mee now for joineing with the bloody Rebells and setting my selfe against those of the Protestant Religion contrary to my former engagements how ill doe these words become you who adhere to and maintaine the bloodiest Rebells in the world that is those in England who are soe strictly joyned and vnited with Colonell Monke who if I be not misinformed hath made a Cessation with the bloodest of