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A faithful rebuke to a false report lately dispersed in a letter to a friend in the country Concerning certain differences in doctrinals, between some dissenting ministers in London.
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Alsop, Vincent, 1629 or 30-1703.
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in their place and 〈◊〉 But he asserts that hitherto the greatest Struggle has â—n about these Two whereof the First is about Christ's â—isfaction But herein you will need better Informaâ—â—â— and a truer Report for never hitherto have the â—ited Brethren nor any one of that Number given least Occasion to any to struggle with them about 〈◊〉 Point but they have clearly stated vigorously â—intained that great Fundamental and for this they â—appeal to whatever of Impartiality and Honesty is in this lower World They appeal to the Thirty â—e Articles to the Assemblies Confession that of Savoy to the shorter and larger Catechisms and to â—ir own Papers publisht in 1692 to which they have â—reely subscribed and never yet in the least departed 〈◊〉 by the Grace of God will they ever depart no not â—h their Lives â—Nay I will speak a great Word None has ever more â—arly stated this Truth than Mr. Williams for which â—fer you to his Gospel Truth 2 Chap. Though our Sins 〈◊〉 imputed to Christ with respect to the Guilt thereof so 〈◊〉 he by the Father 's Appointment and his own Consent â—me obliged as Mediator to bear the Punishment of our Iniâ—ies and he did bear those Punishments to the full Satisfaâ—n of Iustice and to our actual Remission when we â—eve c. Now Sir because you well understand the Socinian â—ntroversies in all Points and therefore in this pray me if he has not in these Words obviated whatever â—asions the Socinians make use of to avoid the Arguâ—nts brought to confirm this Truth 1. The Guilt of Sins imputed to Christ. 2. Christ bore the Punishmeâ— of our Iniquities 3. And this was according to his Fâ—â—thers appointment and his own Consent 4. This Pâ—â—nishment he bore to the full Satisfaction of Justice To our Actual Remission when we believe About what then is all this Struggle or rather Squabblâ— why Sir 'T was lately they objected to Mr. William that his Righteousness would not go 't was Clipt within tâ— Ring Witty enough in all Conscience but now suâ—â—ceeds the Coining Age and they have Stampt or Couâ—â—terfeited some new Phrases Terms Expressions suâ— as Christ's taking on him the Person of Sinners dying in tâ— Person of Sinners and raising a huge Dust about theâ— they call it a Struggle about Christ's Satisfaction when iâ—â—hing less And I am afraid this False Coine wâ— not go Will you observe with me as we go along how uâ— easy these Gentlemen sit under all the Old Confessions Faith all the Articles of Religion drawn up to be boâ— Instruments of Peace and Truth I will for a Momeâ— leave you to your Meditations and a little freely dâ—â—course with them Come Gentlemen Will the Aâ—â—cle of Satisfaction as propounded by the Church of Eâ—â—land please you O no! we are weary of that Thâ— were Episcopal Will that content you which was coâ—â—piled by the Assembly at Westminster Least of all Thâ— were Presbyterians Will then that of the Brethren at 〈◊〉 Savoy satisfy you They were Independent No! 〈◊〉 have had enough of that Well! Will that Artiâ— drawn up by your own selves in 1692. make you easâ— No! We have occasion for some other Phrases Wâ— is it I beseech you Will a Change of Person quiet yoâ— Yes in our own Sense Then again I beseech you tâ— us what that is Why that it be interpreted to signâ— Christ's taking on him the Person of Sinners and that died in the Person of Sinners And how long will that câ—â—tent you I can tell you that till the next Crocâ— comes in your Heads to invent another and then the â—tress of Peace and Truth shall be laid upon that I perâ—eive we may as well bind Proteus as fix your Desultoâ—y Humours or as the Comaedian expresses it Canem â—ugitivum Agninis Lactibus alligare For this has been our Method all along you draw up a Proposition â—ou hope Mr. Williams will boggle at it he subscribes â—hen study another Invention is fertile It 's done â—nd Mr. Williams subscribes to that too Then invent a â—hird a Fourth and so on till he refuses and then you â—ave gained your Point and done your Business Mr. Williams shall be an obstinate Heretick It 's now high time to examine their Objections wheâ—er against Mr. Williams for the Papers sake or against â—e Paper for Mr. Williams's sake it 's not very clear or whether against both for Divisions sake I am not conâ—ern'd nor will I promise to confine my Answers to the â—rguments against either but yet I think I shall chiefâ—â— confine my self to those Levelled against him and â—ot wholly waving what they say against this Third Paâ—er though in Truth there is but one Paper that the â—nited Brethren are concerned to own and justify â—nd the Reason of my procedure is plainly this I have â—o warrant to vindicate the Brethren they are more â—ble to answer for themselves which if they think such Report deserves it they will certainly do and for Mr. Williams I need none of his Leave or Allowance â—r any Man may defend the common Cause of Christiâ—nity or answer any Arguments brought against it â—ithout his Permission or Commission Mr. Williams as asserted and publickly owned that Christ died in our â—ead Vice nostrâ loco nostro And more fully as I â—uoted him Gospel Truth Chap. 2. Now the Manuscript 〈◊〉 the Report answers 1 That our modern Innovators does he mean themâ—lves have assumed to themselves a Priviledge of impoâ—g an heterodox Sense on sound Terms and Phrases And that these Words in our place and stead do not with many now a days signify a Surrogation or a proper Change of Persons in a legal sense but import no more than for our good To which disingenuous Objection I return thiâ— Reply § 1. It is here then acknowledged that these Wordâ— of Mr. Williams's are sound and orthodox and whaâ— would these unreasonable Men have him do how shalâ— he speak to please them must he use heterodox Termâ— and Phrases and then qualify them with a sound Meaning They that revile him for speaking soundly because others put an ugly Meaning upon his Words how would they have reviled him had he spoken heterodoxly and then thought to salve all with a good Meaning Let Mr. Williams speak the Words of Truth and Soberness and preach the Doctrine which is according to Godliness and let the Uncharitable judge what they please § 2. But have these Modern Innovators usurp'd this Priviledge to impose an heterodox Meaning upon sound Words Then it will follow that these Men who without cause have put an evil Meaning upon Mr. Williams his Expressions are Modern Innovators nay malicious Slanderers And they are guilty of a more heinous Sin that they usurp the Priviledge of God to judge the Heart â— Charity thinks no evil that is where none appears anâ— where has it appeared that Mr. Williams reserved any Heterodox Sense under those Holy and Wholesomâ— Words And what if these Words
A Faithful Rebuke TO A False Report LATELY Dispersed in a LETTER TO A Friend in the Country CONCERNING Certain Differences in Doctrinals between some Dissenting Ministers in London Exod. 23. 1. Thou shalt not raise a False Report Jer. 20. 10. Report say they and we will Report it LONDON Printed for John Lawrence at the Angel in the Poultrey M.DC.XCVII Dear Friend IT 's grown of late the Mode with some to communicate their Sentiments under the Colour and Cover of a Letter to a Friend in the Country In complyance with the Humour I have given mine â— same Inscription But you shall excuse me if I imiâ—e not the Disingenuity the Prevarication the Partiâ—ty of the Reporter though I comply with the Fashion general Whoever makes a Report ought to be unâ— the severe Law of Conscience To speak the Truth whole Truth and nothing but the Truth that is whoâ—r will Report ought not to make his Report for an â—â—â—torian must never be the Author of his History I can afford to pass by the Reporters assuming Spirit â—o determines who are the Most Learned of each Party â—ause I know not by what Authority he ventures upon 〈◊〉 nor whether he be duly Qualified for such a Deterâ—ation tho' he has a Friend in the City who has proâ—med him all over the Town A Learned Divine â— shall I concern my self at his Reflections on those or seven Presbyterians who he says are of the BigNames amongst them hoping they can be content â—e of no Name when the Name of the Lord Iesus â—st may be glorified in them Though perhaps they â— not so tamely suffer their Names to be trampled in Dirt by every insolent Scribler I pass by also his temptuous Stuff at those who meet at Little St. Helâ— though you know it is the Body of the United Breâ— who meet there of which Number he himself one with others however now absented from the â— and the Union too and is now laudably imploy'd in misrepresenting them or some of them Principal or Accessaries as inclining towards the Unitarians Nor will it be worth the while to take notice of his affected Terms Pursuances Explosion c. for your great Witâ— fancy now and then to be Pedantick nor are they foâ— little Fooleries to be accountable But it will deserve a serious Remark that since these Persons are resolved never to Unite with them yeâ— they might have suffered the poor Presbyterians to live quietly by ' em They might at least have let the Sparkâ— of Contention silently die and be buried in their own Ashes and not have blown them up into this Flamâ— in the Country which they had kindled in the City Light indeed is pleasant but I like not the Sparks anâ— Flames that come from a Forge That little Artifice which the Reporter may glory iâ— is obvious and needs not my Observation that his Paper came out at a Juncture when he knew the Unite Ministers had Adjourned their Meetings and so migâ— hope to poison the Country before they could prescribâ— and send down the proper Antidote and that his Firâ— balls might put you all in a Flame before the Ministeâ— could rally to quench it But you expect to be entertained with more substantiâ— Matters I. And therefore I present you with the Substance of the Gospel of Christ as he has presented it We are allâ— Nature under the Curse of the Law and destitute of Righteousness intituling to Eternal Life This is our state aâ— condition This is the Place in which we are in which we dye we are undone eternally For Vindicative Iustic which is essential to God makes it necessary that the Wraâ— be inflicted and that there be no Right to Eternal Life witâ— out a perfect Meritorious Righteousness That all who believâ— might escape the Wrath to come and have Everlasting Life The Lord Iesus Christ undertakes for us by making Satisfâ—ction both to punitive and remunerative Iustice and that might do so he put himself into our Place State and Condiâ—â—on So that whereas we were Sin and under a Curse â—y this blessed Change Christ is made Sin and a Curse and â—e delivered from Sin and the Curse 2 Cor. 5. 21. Gal. 3. 3. Pag. 5. This he tells us is the Substance of the Gospel of Christ which if it be and sound at the Bottom is the worst â—rawn up of any I ever read 1. Out of his Substance of the Gospel he has left Regeneration Conversion Repentance Holiness Sanctification a new Heart and new Obedience Good Works c. A Blessed Report for the Country you are eased at least of one Moiety of your Work though I question whether your Consciâ—nces will take his Security that this is the Substance of â—he Gospel which you are to Preach to the People Woe â—o that poor People whether in City or Country who â—t down under such Preachers who make this the Substance of their Preaching for though they may now and then upon the by hint a little at Repentance and so â—orth yet that 's but Accidental to the Gospel the Subâ—ance lies in what Christ has suffered for them 't is meer Accident what he is by the Spirit to work in them much more what is if any thing be to to be done by â—hem 2. But suppose this were intended only as the Substance of the Gospel so far as we are to believe what Christ has done and suffered for Sinners without them â—nd with God yet there 's something in this Draught â—hat gives cause of Suspicion to those who are of no â—ealous Inclinations For whereas he informs us that Christ suffered and satisfyed that all who believe might â—cape Wrath to come and have Everlasting Life Here 's â—o necessity of Faith in order to Justification no Beâ—eving necessary to Pardon of Sin or Peace with God No Faith needful to Union with Christ that we may â—ave an Interest in his Righteousness but only to escape â—rath to come and the having Everlasting Life Well! give me my Bible again I will subscribe without Equâ—vocation to the Apostle Rom. 5. 1. Being justified bâ— faith we have peace with God through our Lord Iesus Christ. 3. Be pleased to observe He instructs you Thaâ— we are all by Nature under the Curse of the Law and destâ—tute of a Righteousness that may intitle us to Eternal Life and that this was our Place State and Condition which we all own and lament as too true but then he instruct you also that Christ put himself into our Place State and Condition will you not must you not conclude from hence that Christ also was destitute of a Righteousness tâ— intitle him and if himself us too to Eternal Life 4. Such an Inference is obvious but it will requirâ— more Application of Mind to discern the Fallacy iâ— these Words So that whereas we were Sin and undeâ— a Curse by this blessed Change Christ is made Sin and under a Curse and we delivered from Sin and Curse