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A04434	The svmme and svbstance of the conference which, it pleased his excellent Maiestie to haue with the lords, bishops, and other of his clergie, (at vvhich the most of the lordes of the councell were present) in his Maiesties priuy-chamber, at Hampton Court. Ianuary 14. 1603. / Contracted by VVilliam Barlovv, Doctor of Diuinity, and Deane of Chester. Whereunto are added, some copies, (scattered abroad,) vnsauory, and vntrue.	Barlow, William, d. 1613.	1604 (1604)	STC 1456.5; ESTC S100949	36,617	118

any Then hee desireth that according to certaine Prouincial Constitutions they of the Clergy might haue meetinges once euery three weekes first in Rurall Deanries and therein to haue Prophecying according as the Reuerend Father Archbishoppe Grindal and other Bishops desired of her late Maiestie 2. that such things as could not be resolued vpon there might bee referred to the Archdeacons Uisitation and so 3. from thence to the Episcopall Synode where the Bishoppe with his Presbyteri should determine all such pointes as before could not be decided At which speech his Maiestie was somewhat stirred yet which is admirable in him without passion or shewe thereof thinking that they aymed at a Scottish Presbytery which saith hee as well agreeth with a Monarchy as God and the Diuell Then Iack and Tom and Will and Dick shall meete and at their pleasures censure me and my Councell and all our proceedings Then VVill shall stand vp and say it must bee thus then Dick shall reply and say nay mary but wee will haue it thus And therefore here I must once reiterate my former speech Le Roy s'auisera Stay I pray you for one seauen yeares before you demaunde that of mee and if then you finde mee purseye and fat and my winde pipes stuffed I will perhaps hearken to you for let that gouernment bee once vp I am sure I shall bee kept in breath then shall wee all of vs haue worke enough both our hands full But Doctor Reyn. til you finde that I grow lazy let that alone And here because D. Reyn. had twise before obtruded the Kings Supremacie 1. In the Article concerning the Pope 2. in the point of Subscription his Maiestie at those times saide nothing but now growing to an end he saide I shall speake of one matter more yet somewhat out of order but it skilleth not Doctor Rein. quoth the K. you haue often spoken for my Supremacie and it is well but knowe you any here or any elsewhere who like of the present Gouernement Ecclesiasticall that finde fault or dislike my Supremacie D. Rein. saide no why then saith his Maiestie I will tell you a tale After that the Religion restored by King Edwarde the sixt was soone ouerthrowne by the succession of Queene Marie here in England wee in Scotland felt the effect of it Whereupon Mas. Knoxe writes to the Queene Regent of whome without flattery I may say that she was a vertuous and moderate Lady telling her that she was Supreme head of the Church and charged her as shee would aunswere it before Gods Tribunall to take care of Christ his Euangil and of suppressing the Popish Prelates who vvithstoode the same But how long trovv yee did this continue euen so long till by her authority the popish Bishops were repressed hee himselfe and his adherents vvere brought in and well setled and by these meanes made strong enough to vndertake the matters of Reformation thēselues Then loe they began to make small account of her Supremacy nor vvould longer rest vpon her authoritie but tooke the cause into their ovvne hand according to that more light wherewith they were illuminated made a further reformation of Religion How they vsed that poore Lady my mother is not vnknowne and vvith griefe I may remember it vvho because shee had not beene otherwise instructed did desire only a priuate Chappell vvherein to serue God after her manner with some few selected persons but her Supremacy was not sufficient to obtaine it at their hands And howe they dealt with me in my Minoritie you all know it was not done secretly thogh I would I cannot conceale it I will apply it thus And then putting his hand to his hat his Maiestie saide my Lordes the Bishops I may thanke you that these men doe thus pleade for my Supremacie They thinke they cannot make their party good against you but by appealing vnto it as if you or some that adhere vnto you were not well affected towardes it But if once you were out and they in place I knowe what would become of my Supremacie No Bishop no King as before I sayd Neither doe I thus speake at randon without ground for I haue obserued since my comming into England that some Preachers before me can be content to pray for Iames King of England Scotland Fraunce and Ireland defendor of the faith but as for Supreme Gouernour in all causes and ouerall persons as well Ecclesiasticall as Ciuill they passe that ouer with silence what out they haue beene of I after learned After this asking them if they had any more to obiect and D. Reyn. aunswering Noe his Maiestie appointed the next Wednesday for both parties to meete before him and rising from his Chaire as hee was going to his inner Chamber If this bee all quoth he that they haue to say I shall make thē conforme themselues or I will harrie them out of the land or else do worse And this was the Summe of the second dayes Conference which raised such an admiration in the Lordes in respect of the King his singular readinesse and exact knowledge that one of them sayde hee was fully perswaded his Maiestie spake by the instinct of the spirite of God My L. Cecill acknowledged that very much we are bound to God who had giuen vs a King of an vnderstanding heart My Lord Chancelor passing out of the Priuy-Chamber said vnto the Deane of Chester standing by the dore I haue often hearde and read that Rex est mixta persona cum sacerdote but I neuer saw the truth thereof till this day Surely whosoeuer heard his Maiesty might iustly thinke that title did more properly fitte him which Eunapius gaue to that famous Rhetoritian in saying that he was 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Liuing Library and a walking Study Finis secundae diei THE THIRD DAYES Conference VPon Wednesday Ianuary 18. all the Bishops afore named attended at the Court and the Deanes who were all called into the Priuie Chamber and who so else my Lord Archbishop appointed for such was his Maiesties pleasure whereuppon the Knightes and Doctors of the Arches viz. Sir Daniel Dunne Sir Thomas Crompton Sir Richard Swale Sir Iohn Bennet and D. Drury entred As soone as the King was set the Lord Archbishoppe presented vnto him a note of those points which his Maiesty had referred to their consideration vpon the first day and the alteration or rather explanation of them in our Liturgie 1. Absolution or Remission of sinnes in the Rubrike of Absolution 2. In priuate Baptisme the lawfull Minister present 3. Examination with Confirmation of Children 4. Iesus sayd to them twise to bee put into the Dominicall Gospels in stead of Iesus sayd to his Disciples His Maiestie here taking the Common Prayer Booke and turning to Priuate Baptisme willed that where the wordes were in the Rubrike the second Paragraph They Baptize not Children Novv it should be thus read They cause not Children to be baptized and

in meane while conferre vvith them and if they vvould not yeeld vvhatsoeuer they vvere to remoue them after their time expired No sooner was that motion ended but downe fals M. Knewstubs and hee requestes the like fauour of forbearance for some honest Ministers in Suffolke telling the K. it vvould make much against their Credites in the Country to be now forced to the Surplis and the Crosse in Baptisme My Lordes Grace was aunswering Nay saith his Maiestie let me alone with him Sir saith the King you shew your selfe an vncharitable man wee haue here taken paines and in the end haue concluded of an vnity and vniformitie and you forsooth must preferre the Credites of a few priuate men before the generall peace of the Church this is iust the Scottish argument for when any thing was there concluded which disliked some humors the onely reason why they would not obey was it stoode not with their credits to yeeld hauing so long beene of the cōtrary opinion I vvill none of that saith the King and therefore eyther let them cōform thēselues that shortly or they shall heare of it My Lord Cecill put his Maiestie in mind of a word his Highnes had vsed the day before namely of Ambuling Communions saying that the indecency thereof vvas very offensiue had driuen many from the Church here M. Chatterton vvas told of sitting Communions in Emanuel Colledge vvhich hee saide vvas so by reason of the seates so placed as they be yet that they had some kneeling also Finally they ioyntly promised to bee quiet and obedient now they knew it to be the Kinges mind to haue it so His Maiesties gracious conclusion was so piercing as that it fetched teares from some on both sides My Lord of London ended all in the name of the vvhole company with a Thankesgiuing vnto God for his Maiestie and a prayer for the health and prosperity of his Highnes our gracious Queene the yong Prince and al their Royall Issue His Maiestie departed into the inner Chamber all the Lordes presently went to the Councell Chamber to appoint Commissioners for the seuerall matters before referred FINIS The Preface MAny Copies were sent me wherof some were so shamelesly vntrue and I assure you so obscaene that I think his Maiestie would haue bene as much offended with me for Printing as with the Authors for dispearsing them I haue chosen three of the best and cleanliest which doe here vnder follow I giue no censure neither know I the Dispearsers let the Reader conferre and iudge Rectum est iudex sui obliqui The first Copie Ianuary 15. 1603. SIr I cannot conceale from you the good successe which it hath pleased God to sende vs by the Conference which his Maiestie had with the Bishops at the court There appeared none but the Bishops which were with the King aboue three houres Can. Lon. Wint. fell downe on their knees and desired that all things might remaine least the Papists should thinke we haue bene in an error The King replied that in 42. yeares corruptions might creep in He spake of cōfirmation priuate Baptisme the Crosse dumbe Ministerie non residence the Courtes which he promised to amēd especially he spake bitterly against priuate Baptisme saying hee had as liue an Ape as a woman should Baptise his childe and against Courtes which hee saide he would put downe The Lo. chiefe Iustice and the Lo. Cecil against Excommunications by Lay-men Maister Deane of the Chappell speaking something to the King in his eare the Bishop of London insolently said vnto him Doctor Mountague speake out that we may heare you and seeke not to crosse vs. At their departure they said that if the King should vse the Ministers in such sort as they were vsed they would be too insolent The King said they were his subiectes and if hee would not heare them then they had iust cause to complaine The Bishops brought foorth many Popish arguments which the King very ernestly answered and learnedly more then tenne times calling them Popish arguments and saide by those reasons they might prooue Popery The Bishop of Winchester saide that if he tooke away priuate Baptisme he ouerthrew all antiquitie The Bishop of Peterbrough brought a foolish argument with much disgrace to himselfe The Bishops haue taken Wednesday to consider of the Kings speech The Ministers came to the King on Munday at nine of the clocke Honest men about the Court are comforted Conformitans hang down their heads and the Bishops men curse the Puritanes sic explicit 1. dies Another Copie I Haue sent you the declaration of the Conference which was in this manner The firste day the Bishoppes mette before his Maiestie Bishops of Canterburie London and Winchester making earnest sute that all things might stand as they did least the Papists should take offence who might say we would perswade them to come to a Church hauing errors in it and the Puritans will say they haue bin persecuted long The King answered that the best state would gather corruptions and that it was no argument for them to say they would not be cured of the pox because they had had it 30. yeares he concluded against absolution confirmation priuate Baptisme the dumbe and scandulous Ministers pluralities the Courtes and the authoritie of Bishoppes by the high Commissisners c. The second day the Ministers were conuented before the King who answered fearefully modestly the Bishop of Lon. behaued himselfe insolently saying these are Cartwrightes Schollers Scismatikes breakers of your Maiesties lawes you may know thē by their Turkie gownes and silke Turky Grogorum The third day they met all where the King spake much to vnitie that they might ioyne against the Papists All the three dayes the King behaued himselfe admirable to the beholders graunting to the Ministers their earnest request that the Ceremonies of the Crosse in Baptisme and the Surplises reuerent for antiquitie should not be vrged vpon the consciences of the Ministers so that they were peaceable mē and that they should haue time to consider of them many hundreds being resolued rather to haue lost their places then to haue yeelded to those superstitions against which they had Preached The last day the Bishop of Cant. was intreated to be a meanes that the ceremonies might not be pressed but he answered they had bene vrged as necessary and should be so still But it pleased God to moue his Maiestie to a more peaceable course the Bishop of Peter-borow came in with his argument about Baptisme which the King made voide to his great reproach The King saide many times that the Bishoppes reasons were popish and that they might establish Poperie by them it is thought that the King will be shortly in Huntingtonshire The Lord Chancellor the Lord Cecil the Lord chiefe Iustice and the Atturnie Generall must set downe some course for the high Commission and the Spirituall Courts A third Copie Some of the speeches that are bruited vpon Maister Doctor Reynoldes returne to Oxen. concerning the late Conference before his Maiestie 1 THat the Kinges Maiestie did gratifie Maister Doctor Reynoldes in euery thing which he proposed or that Doctor Reynoldes obtained and preuailed in euerie thing he did desire 2 That if anie man reporte the contrarie hee doth lye or that they should giue him the lye from Maister Doctor Reynoldes 3 That these thinges now obtained by the reformers were but the beginning of reformation the greater matters were yet to come 4 That my Lord of Winton stoode mute and said little or nothing 5 That my Lord of London called Doctor Reynoldes Schismatick indeede he thankes him for it but otherwise said little to purpose 6 That the Kings Maiestie vsed the Bishops with very hard words but imbraced maister Doctor Reynolds and vsed most kind speeches to him 7 That my Lo. of Canterbury or my Lo. of London falling on his knees besought his Maiestie to take their cause into his owne handes and to make some good end of it such as might stand with their credite Archiep. Can tuar 2 Deanes of Ep. Londl Christchur VVinchest VVindsor Archdeac Nottinghā and mine owne Prou. 30 1● 13. 14 Pro. 25. 11 Iohn 1. 5. 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 2 1 2 3 4 1 1 2 3 2 3 4 1. Cor. 14. Act. 21. Other Copies haue the Bishop of Winchester