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A03125 A manifest and apparent confutation of an astrological discourse, lately published to the discomfort (without cause) of the weake and simple sort, as will by the sequel of that which foloweth, euidently appeare With a briefe prognostication, or astrologicall prediction, of the coniunction of the two superiour planets, Saturn and Iupiter: which shalbe in the year of our Lord God 1583 the 29. of Aprill, at three of the clocke in the morning. / VVritten the 25. of March by Thomas Heth, Master of Art. Heath, Thomas, astronomer. 1583 (1583) STC 13255.3; ESTC S106102 23,841 84

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who are not able to testifie And therfore moste straunge it is that the audacitie of euery slender student in this science should be such as vpon so small causes so certainly and peremptorily to pronounce such great and wonderful effects assuring the same vpon his credit But how so euer his credit be certaine I am that thorowe the like rashe and vnlearned attempts the art it self hath béen greatly discredited In so much as it is in a maner contemned of the common people the which was in times past estéemed both of Prince and Potentate in such sort as they became earnest Studēts therof Wherfore it were to be wished that some of the chiefest Mathematicians of this Age and of this our Country wel learned and long experienced would vndertake the wryting of these and the like cases wherby other yunger Schollers might bee the more benefited and the common wealth the better profited And were there any cause of feare by this Coniunction portended it were more reasonable and conuenient that Liberati the Italian shoulde rather admonish the kingdome of France and Italy his country then threaten the realme of England thereby For that in the yere of our Lord 1524. after the like Coniunction in Pisces the French king was taken prisoner at the siege of Paui by the Duke of Bourbon which in dispight of the Cardinall Wolsey went to Rome besieged the Citie his Souldiers fact and spoiled it the Pope driuen to fly to the castle of S. Angelo wher hee continued long in calamitye The seconde yeare after was a peace concluded betweene England and France the fift yeare following was the newe Testament translated into Englishe by William Tindall and printed the sixt year following the Pope was banished and suite to the courte of Rome forbidden and the same year died Cardinal Wolsey all which I am perswaded was no losse to England likewise the cleargy was condemned in the premunire No other great matter happned in this land by the space of 10. years after that Coniunction except it were the losse of the holy mayde of Kent who with her complices Monkes and Fryers were worthely executed and put to death and certaine houses of obseruaunt Friers put downe But to return from whence I first digressed the signe of the great Orbe at this present is Gemini The Lady and gouernesse of the Orbe Venus The degree of the profection the twenty eight of Libra the diuisor Mars the ascendent of the coniunction the twentie nine degree and 51. minutes of Pisces The Lady of the hour of the sayd coniunction Venus The Lord and gouernour of the preuention precéeding Venus Al which considered it euidently appeareth that Saturn hath no Dominion in any of the premises much lesse in al or the most of them And therefore were he Potentior Joue in loco coniunctionis as some in considerately haue supposed him yet cold-he not at this present work those effects by him signified by reason of his dissent and disagréement otherwise But according as Iels where promised I wil first begin with the doctrine of Ptolemy in the sixtie three propositiō of his Centiloquium whose words are these Cum Saturnus Iupiterque cōiūgunter vtrum eorum sublimior sit vide iuxta illius naturā pronuntiato The which propositiō containeth much matter and very difficult in few wordes For by the word coniunction as some of the learned haue interpreted he meaneth in the same place Coniunctionem tam secundum latitudinem quā longitudinē Both which at this presēt by great good hap in a maner concurre though the same by the Aucthor bee neglected and omitted A farther consideration thē the whiche notwithstanding of other some there is required herein the vniting and contactiō of their bodies the whiche for that the difference of their Latitudes is more thē the Semidiameters of their bodies can not be for as muche as the Semidiameter of the bodie of Saturne is but 4. minutes and the Semidiameter of the bodie of Iupiter is 6. minutes bothe whiche added together maketh 10. minutes and the difference of their Latitudes is 26. minutes Ergo it appeareth as is saied and how requisite this third consideration is in the iudgement of corporall Coniunctions saie thei the Eclipse of the Sunne and the Moone doth euidently declare For that whē as the Latitude of the Moone exceedeth the Semidiameter of both their bodies there happeneth no Eclipse be the Coniunction otherwise neuer so partile the which opiniō although it bee very reasonable and probatle yet will I not much stande therevppon for that it seldome happeneth to concurre with the two former considerations and yet the Coniunction pretending matter to insue how be it it must of necessitie be graunted whē it so happeneth to be the more significatiue and of greater effect Ceteris paribus The second point contained in the former proposition is to consider in this Coniunction Quis eleuatur super alterum the whiche worde eleuatio for that it is somewhat ambiguous is therefore diuersly vnderstoode of sondrie Writers some takyng it in one sence and some in other as Trapezuntius commentyng vpon the same proposition vnderstādeth Per eleuationem altitudinē planetae in epiciclo affirming that when soeuer two Planets are cōioyned together he that is nearest of the twaine vnto the Apogeon of his Epicicle dicitur eleuatus super alterum when they are of like distaunce frō the former Apogeon Quod nullus eleuatur supra alterū And some there are as Guido and such like who referre the same vnto the latitudes of the planets so conioyned thus saiyng thereof that if it happen their Latitudes to be both one way and into the North he whose Latitude is greater to be eleuated aboue the other but if bothe their Latitudes bee into the South thē he to be eleuated whose latitude is least of the twaine If the latitude of the one bee into the North and the Latitude of the other into the South then he whose Latitude is into the North is eleuated aboue the other in to the South but if their Latitudes be bothe one way and like muche then he who is ascendent to be eleuated aboue the other descendēt in the same and when as neither of them haue any Latitude from the Ecliptike thē none to be eleuated aboue the other and a third sorte there are who consider Per eleuationem declinationem ab Equatore saiyng that in this and the like Coniunctions it is to be cōsidered Quis planetarum habet maiorem declinationem whiche if they happen to bee bothe into the North then he who hath the greatest declination of the twaine is thought to be eleuated aboue the other but if their declination bee into the Southe he whose declinatiō is lesse of the twain but if so be that the declination of the one be into the North and the declination of the other into the Southe then he who hath his declination in to the North but if their