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A peaceable enquiry into that novel controversie about reordination With certain close, but candid animadversions upon an ingenious tract for the lawfulness of reordination; written by the learned and Reverend Mr. J. Humphrey. By R.I.
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should lose the substance And if I can but prove that ordination is thus much i. e. that which being rightly put office-power will follow and that which being denyed the conveyance of power according to the order of the Charter is suspended this will be sufficient to my purpose 1. I will argue à pari because that will lustrate as well as confirm In the constiâ—uting of a King in a Kingdom elective for â—n hereditary Kingdom the Coronation of such a King will not reach our case the Ministerial power not being hereditary â—ve consider 1. The sundamental constitution of their Kingdom which instrumenâ—ally institutes the office of a King there â—etermines his power and work describes he person capable and also impowers some persons it may be Princes Peers or People to discern elect enthronize and crown upon a vacancy a certain person to â—e their King 2. We suppose several perâ—ons that are duly qualified ready to accept â—nd consent to be made their King Yet 3. there is not one of them made King eâ—â—omine because qualified without the probation approbation and constitution of the Judges but any one of them being elected and constituted by the Electors and Judges â—s King presently Even so c. Take another Instance in the authorizing a chief Officer in one of our Corporations we suppose that the Kings Majesty is the principal Efficient subtercelestial cause of their authority likewise their Charter is the instrumental cause and qualified persons according to the directions in the Chartâ—â— are the capable Subjects of this authoriâ—â— and the Burgomasters Freemen or the liâ—â— are appointed by this their Charter to elâ—â— and constitute this their head Officer wâ—â—ther Mayor Bayliff or Warden mattâ—â— not Now notwithstanding the Kings thority derived in general their Charâ—â—â— deriving a person duly qualified ready accept the office yet notwithstanding is nâ—â— this person a Mayor Bayliff or Wardâ— except they that are appointed ordain hâ—â— to be so nor until they have ordained hâ—â— to be so but when their act is past then there authority derived from the King the Charter which invests him with thâ— office-power Or as in the University tâ—â— Statutes authorize a person so and so aâ— complished to challenge the degree of Doctor or Master yet notwithstanding tâ—â—â— person is not Doctor nor Master till he haâ— his grace in the Convocation but then 〈◊〉 is Who is so dull as to be unable to maâ—â— application By all which it appears thâ— Ordainers are necessary occasions if nâ— constituent causes viz. in genere instrâ—menti in specie called Ministerial causes this Officer qua Officer 2. I argue if ordination be but a meâ—solemnity to which the conveyance of â—â—wer to a particular person is anteceâ—â—nt then is a person qualified if consentâ—â—g made a Minister before ordination â—â—a then are all persons Ministers being â—â—alified and desiring the office and having â—â—portunity of exercising Might not such Doctrine reduced into practice occasion at Question of Saint Paul 1 Cor. 12.29 Are all Apoâ—les are all Prophets are all Teachers â—â—â—c 3. If ordination convey not the power â—en a person ordained is really no more a â—inister then he was before though he may â—em somewhat more to the world but if â—â—e should seem to be more a Minister beâ—â—re ordination then after as he might to me of the separation then to what purpose should he be ordained 4. Why would the Holy Ghost think â—ou chuse to use such expressions as do â—â—ully set forth a proper investiture if no â—uch thing were intended The 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—â—sed for ordination Acts 6.3 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whom we may constitute â—ver this businesse And Titus 1.5 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. and ordain Elders in every City is the very â—me word that is used for the most proper investiture with office-power Acts 7.10 When seph was by Pharach put into his office 〈◊〉 Holy Ghost expresseth it thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. and likewâ—â—â— in that Parable Luke 12.44 and maâ—â— such like places 5. Why should not our Ministers loâ—â— upon their ordination as conferring the office as well as Aaron and especially 〈◊〉 Successors theirs 2 Chron. 29.11 Hebâ— 5.1 4 5. 6. It ordination be a potestative misâ—â—on then it invests but so it is generall concluded from Rom. 10.15 7. If ordination do not invest how wâ—â— the gift i. e. the office given Timothy wiâ—â—â— the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4.14 or by the laying on 〈◊〉 Pauls hands 2 Tim. 1.6 if that plaâ—â— be understood of ordination as some woulâ— have it 8. How can ordination be said to be thâ— committing or entrusting as 2 Tim. 2.2 of faithful persons with the Gospel 〈◊〉 preach it if it convey no power Much more I perceive by the rising oâ—â— my own thoughts may be said to prove thiâ— part of the Proposition that ordination iâ—â— an investiture with power but methinks have made too low an halt at the threshold already and therefore I proceed to the Proposition Prop. 6. It is supposed that this work of ordination is committed to certain persons ordained themselves to the same office at least and that the person in the Question was ordained as you must give me leave to call it to the office of a Presbyter by the Presbytery or Presbyters validly ordained themselves and that our Question now is not about the Ordainers own ordination to be Presbyters or the Magistrates allowance of such ordinations at least a postfacte or the peoples consent to such Ministers Prop. 7. Let us suppose that the Presbyters ordaining were neither heretical schismatical nor scandalous though possibly they ordained in heretical schismatical and scandalous times but were orthodox peaceable and pious as many of them may rationally be judged to be or at least that they were not such as by their personal miscarriages to null their acts and this we may well suppose because it is known that Protestants and Papists do generally agree that ordinations made by Hereticks and Schismaticks are not to nomine null and void Prop. 8. It is supposed that the former ordination received was an ordination to the office in the Catholick Church and likewise that the latter ordination imposed is to the same office in the Catholick Church and that the Question is not now about any particular inferiour separation to a particular work or exercise of an office Prop. 9. It may be supposed that the person formerly ordained by the Presbytery either knew not in those cloudy times where to find a Diocesan or knowing durst not use him for fear of the Usurpers or desiring ordination from him he durst not grant it and so he looked upon himself as lying under a necessity to receive Presbyterial ordination Prop. 10. It is supposed that the person ordained in this case of necessity is satisfied as to the validity of such ordination though not possibly as to the