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A69533 Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1267; ESTC R13446 437,983 583

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agree_v that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n in_o the_o world_n but_o from_o god_n the_o absolute_a sovereign_n and_o first_o cause_n of_o power_n so_o all_o that_o deserve_v the_o name_n of_o christian_n be_v agree_v that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n power_n but_o what_o be_v from_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o sovereign_a king_n of_o the_o church_n sect._n 3_o as_o the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o no_o thing_n but_o the_o signification_n of_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o convey_n of_o mere_a right_n so_o in_o the_o make_v a_o man_n a_o minister_n of_o the_o gopel_n there_o need_v no_o other_o principal_n efficient_a cause_n then_o the_o will_n of_o jesus_n christ_n nor_o any_o other_o instrumental_a efficient_a but_o what_o be_v of_o use_n to_o the_o signify_v of_o his_o will_n so_o that_o it_o be_v but_o in_o the_o nature_n of_o sign_n that_o they_o be_v necessary_a no_o more_o therefore_o be_v of_o absolute_a necessity_n but_o what_o be_v so_o necessary_a to_o signify_v his_o will_n if_o christ_n will_n may_v be_v signify_v without_o ordination_n a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n without_o it_o though_o in_o other_o respect_v he_o may_v be_v culpable_a in_o his_o entrance_n by_o cross_v the_o will_n of_o christ_n concern_v his_o duty_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o proceed_n sect._n 4._o there_o be_v considerable_a in_o the_o ministry_n 1._o beneficium_fw-la 2._o officium_fw-la 1._o the_o gospel_n pardon_n salvation-ordinance_n be_v those_o great_a benefit_n to_o the_o son_n of_o man_n which_o the_o ministry_n be_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o convey_v to_o they_o and_o be_v itself_o a_o benefit_n as_o it_o be_v the_o mean_n of_o these_o benefit_n in_o this_o respect_n the_o ministry_n be_v a_o gift_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o church_n and_o his_o donation_n be_v the_o necessary_a act_n for_o their_o
act_n yet_o all_o that_o he_o do_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o line_n of_o his_o office_n be_v nullity_n sect._n 14._o we_o see_v then_o that_o all_o that_o the_o law_n have_v leave_v to_o the_o ordainer_n be_v but_o this_o in_o general_n to_o discern_v and_o judge_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v qualify_v according_a to_o the_o description_n of_o the_o law_n and_o particular_o to_o call_v he_o out_o to_o the_o work_n if_o he_o need_v excitement_n and_o to_o try_v and_o approve_v he_o before_o he_o be_v admit_v and_o to_o invest_v he_o or_o solemnize_v his_o admittance_n at_o his_o entry_n so_o that_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o be_v but_o to_o find_v out_o the_o qualify_a person_n because_o he_o be_v not_o name_v by_o the_o law_n sect._n 15._o and_o even_o in_o this_o the_o ordainer_n be_v not_o the_o only_a discerner_n or_o judge_n but_o the_o person_n himself_o the_o people_n and_o the_o magistrate_n have_v all_o the_o forementioned_a part_n in_o the_o work_n and_o god_n himself_o go_v before_o they_o all_o and_o by_o providence_n frequent_o point_v they_o out_o the_o man_n who_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o choose_v ordain_v accept_v and_o submit_v unto_o and_o that_o by_o these_o particular_a act_n sect._n 16._o 1._o as_o god_n do_v plain_o describe_v the_o person_n in_o the_o word_n so_o he_o do_v qualify_v they_o according_o by_v his_o gift_n and_o that_o of_o three_o sort_n even_o his_o special_a grace_n necessary_a so_o far_o as_o be_v before_o mention_v ministerial_a ability_n of_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n and_o a_o desire_n after_o the_o work_n for_o its_o end_n 2._o god_n use_v to_o qualify_v so_o small_a a_o number_n thus_o compare_v with_o his_o church_n mecessity_n that_o whether_o they_o shall_v be_v minister_n in_o general_n or_o not_o be_v seldom_o matter_n of_o controversy_n to_o prudent_a man_n or_o at_o least_o a_o doubt_n that_o be_v more_o easy_a to_o decide_v 3._o god_n use_v by_o providence_n to_o give_v some_o one_o man_n by_o advantage_n of_o part_n acquaintance_n opportunity_n interest_n etc._n etc._n a_o special_a fitness_n for_o one_o place_n and_o people_n above_o other_o man_n and_o so_o to_o facilitate_v the_o decision_n 4._o god_n use_v to_o stir_v up_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o church_n to_o choose_v or_o consent_v to_o the_o person_n thus_o qualify_v 5._o and_o he_o use_v to_o stir_v up_o desire_n or_o consent_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v the_o pastor_n of_o that_o particular_a flock_n 6._o and_o he_o use_v oft_o time_n to_o procure_v he_o liberty_n if_o not_o some_o call_n from_o the_o magistrate_n 7._o and_o also_o to_o remove_v impediment_n in_o his_o way_n 8._o and_o to_o assist_v ordainer_n in_o discern_v the_o qualification_n of_o the_o person_n when_o the_o work_n come_v to_o their_o hand_n all_o this_o god_n do_v providential_o sect._n 17._o by_o this_o much_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o ordainer_n do_v not_o give_v the_o power_n as_o from_o themselves_o to_o other_o nor_o do_v it_o pass_v through_o their_o hand_n they_o be_v but_o the_o occasion_n and_o the_o instrument_n of_o inauguration_n or_o solemn_a possession_n when_o their_o interposition_n be_v due_a it_o be_v the_o stand_a act_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o law_n that_o give_v the_o power_n immediate_o i_o say_v immediate_o as_o without_o any_o mediate_a receive_n and_o convey_v cause_n that_o be_v direct_o efficient_a of_o the_o power_n itself_o though_o not_o so_o immediate_o as_o to_o exclude_v all_o preparation_n and_o perfect_a instrument_n accidental_a cause_n &_o other_o mean_n as_o in_o case_n of_o marriage_n it_o be_v the_o woman_n consent_n that_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o the_o designation_n of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v be_v her_o husband_n but_o it_o be_v not_o her_o consent_n that_o proper_o give_v he_o the_o power_n of_o a_o husband_n over_o she_o for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o god_n himself_o in_o that_o law_n by_o which_o he_o constitute_v the_o husband_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o wife_n and_o determine_v in_o specie_fw-la of_o his_o power_n which_o one_o determination_n immediate_o confer_v the_o power_n on_o all_o individual_a person_n when_o once_o they_o be_v choose_v and_o name_v so_o that_o the_o elector_n of_o the_o person_n do_v but_o prepare_v and_o dispose_v he_o to_o receive_v the_o power_n and_o not_o give_v it_o he_o do_v but_o open_a the_o door_n and_o let_v man_n in_o to_o the_o ministry_n &_o not_o give_v it_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o bring_v the_o person_n to_o the_o pool_n that_o heal_v that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o man_n that_o first_o shall_v enter_v and_o it_o be_v another_o thing_n to_o heal_v he_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o judge_n of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v the_o power_n immediate_o from_o god_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o give_v it_o he_o ourselves_o sect._n 18._o it_o be_v thus_o in_o the_o case_n of_o magistrate_n power_n in_o which_o man_n interest_n have_v ever_o be_v more_o discernible_a to_o the_o world_n and_o beyond_o controversy_n then_o in_o the_o power_n of_o minister_n though_o here_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a specification_n that_o depend_v on_o the_o will_n of_o man_n yet_o the_o power_n itself_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n and_o man_n do_v but_o choose_v the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v it_o and_o present_v he_o to_o god_n and_o solemn_o inaugurate_a he_o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v i_o shall_v never_o consent_v to_o any_o side_n that_o will_v needs_o give_v more_o to_o man_n whether_o presbyter_n prelate_n or_o people_n in_o make_v a_o minister_n then_o in_o make_v a_o king_n all_o power_n be_v of_o god_n the_o power_n that_o be_v be_v ordain_v of_o god_n sect._n 19_o if_o any_o doubt_n of_o this_o as_o i_o perceive_v by_o many_o write_n they_o do_v i_o shall_v to_o spare_v the_o labour_n of_o a_o digression_n refer_v they_o to_o the_o copious_a unanswerable_a labour_n of_o abundance_n of_o protestant_n that_o have_v write_v in_o england_n for_o the_o royal_a power_n but_o instead_o of_o more_o let_v they_o but_o read_v spalatensis_n and_o saravia_n and_o bilson_n and_o rest_v satisfy_v or_o confute_v they_o before_o they_o expect_v any_o more_o from_o i_o sect._n 20._o as_o in_o the_o make_n of_o bailiff_n for_o our_o corporation_n either_o the_o people_n or_o the_o burgess_n have_v the_o power_n of_o choose_v and_o the_o steward_n or_o recorder_n have_v the_o power_n of_o swear_v he_o and_o perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o yet_o none_o of_o these_o confer_v the_o power_n but_o only_o design_v the_o person_n who_o receive_v the_o power_n from_o the_o prince_n alone_o by_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o city_n or_o town_n as_o his_o instrument_n so_o be_v it_o in_o the_o ordain_v of_o minister_n the_o people_n may_v choose_v and_o the_o pastor_n may_v invest_v but_o its_o god_n only_o by_o the_o gospel_n charter_n that_o confer_v the_o power_n from_o himself_o sect._n 21._o hence_o it_o be_v pla●n_o that_o the_o argument_n be_v vain_a that_o be_v common_o use_v by_o the_o prelate_n from_o nemo_n that_o quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la for_o it_o false_o suppose_v that_o the_o ordainer_n be_v the_o giver_n of_o power_n the_o master-error_n in_o their_o frame_n christ_n have_v it_o and_o christ_n give_v it_o man_n give_v it_o not_o though_o some_o of_o they_o have_v it_o for_o they_o have_v it_o only_o to_o use_v and_o not_o to_o give_v when_o the_o people_n choose_v a_o king_n they_o give_v he_o not_o the_o power_n but_o god_n give_v it_o to_o the_o man_n who_o the_o people_n choose_v when_o our_o corporation_n choose_v their_o bailiff_n the_o chooser_n give_v he_o not_o the_o power_n for_o they_o have_v it_o not_o themselves_o but_o they_o determine_v of_o the_o man_n that_o immediate_o from_o the_o prince_n charter_n shall_v receive_v it_o nor_o do_v the_o recorder_n or_o steward_n give_v it_o primary_o but_o only_o instrumentaliter_fw-la &_o perfective_a by_o a_o ceremonial_a inauguration_n so_o the_o people_n give_v not_o pastor_n the_o power_n nor_o the_o ordainer_n but_o only_o complemental_o sect._n 22._o from_o what_o be_v aforesaid_a also_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v found_v first_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n itself_o which_o upon_o supposition_n of_o man_n misery_n and_o his_o recovery_n by_o christ_n and_o the_o promise_n and_o mean_n appoint_v for_o application_n require_v every_o man_n that_o have_v ability_n and_o opportunity_n to_o do_v his_o best_a in_o the_o order_n appoint_v he_o by_o god_n to_o save_v man_n soul_n by_o proclaim_v the_o gospel_n and_o use_v god_n appoint_v mean_n for_o the_o great_a and_o bless_a end_n that_o be_v before_o we_o sect._n 23._o hence_o it_o also_o appear_v that_o god_n first_o command_n partly_o in_o nature_n and_o partly_o
occasion_v the_o disorder_n of_o other_o man_n it_o be_v better_a that_o man_n be_v disorderly_o save_v then_o orderly_o damn_v and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v dissorder_o preserve_v then_o orderly_o destroy_v god_n will_v not_o alllow_v we_o to_o suffer_v every_o thief_n and_o murderer_n to_o rob_v or_o kill_v our_o neighbour_n for_o fear_v lest_o by_o defend_v they_o we_o occasion_n man_n to_o neglect_v the_o magistrate_n nor_o will_v he_o allow_v we_o to_o let_v man_n perish_v in_o their_o sickness_n if_o we_o can_v help_v they_o for_o fear_n of_o encourage_v the_o ignorant_a to_o turn_v physician_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o part_n of_o god_n service_n that_o can_v be_v use_v without_o occasion_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o perverse_a christ_n himself_o be_v the_o fall_n as_o well_o as_o the_o rise_n of_o many_o and_o be_v a_o stumble_a stone_n and_o rock_n of_o offence_n and_o yet_o not_o for_o that_o to_o be_v deny_v 8._o there_o be_v no_o just_a and_o reasonable_a cause_n of_o man_n abuse_n in_o the_o doctrine_n which_o i_o here_o express_v 3._o true_a necessity_n will_v excuse_v and_o justify_v the_o unordained_a before_o god_n for_o exercise_v their_o ability_n to_o his_o service_n but_o pretend_v counterfeit_a necessity_n will_v not_o justify_v any_o and_o the_o final_a judgement_n be_v at_o hand_n when_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v set_v straight_o and_o true_a necessity_n and_o counterfeit_n shall_v be_v discern_v 4._o until_o that_o day_n thing_n will_v be_v in_o some_o disorder_n in_o this_o world_n because_o there_o be_v sin_n the_o world_n which_o be_v the_o disorder_n but_o our_o remedy_n be_v these_o 1._o to_o teach_v man_n their_o duty_n true_o and_o not_o to_o lead_v they_o into_o one_o evil_a to_o prevent_v another_o much_o less_o to_o a_o mischief_n destructive_a to_o man_n soul_n to_o prevent_v disorder_n 2._o the_o magistrate_n have_v the_o sword_n of_o justice_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o restrain_v false_a pretender_n of_o necessity_n and_o in_o order_n thereto_o it_o be_v he_o and_o not_o the_o pretender_n that_o shall_v be_v judge_n and_o 3._o the_o church_n have_v the_o power_n of_o cast_v the_o pretender_n if_o the_o case_n deserve_v it_o out_o of_o their_o communion_n and_o in_o order_n thereto_o it_o be_v not_o he_o but_o they_o that_o will_v be_v judge_n and_o other_o remedy_n we_o have_v none_o till_o the_o last_o day_n sect._n 54._o quest._n but_o what_o will_v you_o have_v man_n do_v that_o think_v there_o be_v a_o necessity_n of_o their_o labour_n and_o that_o they_o have_v ministerial_a ability_n answ._n 1._o i_o will_v have_v they_o lay_v by_o pride_n and_o selfishness_n and_o pass_v judgement_n on_o their_o own_o ability_n in_o humility_n and_o self-denial_n if_o their_o corruption_n be_v so_o strong_a that_o they_o can_v that_o be_v they_o will_v not_o do_v this_o that_o be_v long_a of_o themselves_o 2._o they_o must_v not_o pretend_v a_o necessity_n where_o be_v none_o 3._o they_o must_v offer_v themselves_o to_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n that_o best_o know_v they_o 4._o if_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o godly_a able_a pastor_n that_o know_v they_o they_o be_v unfit_a and_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o they_o they_o must_v acquiesce_v in_o their_o judgement_n for_o able_a godly_a man_n be_v not_o like_a to_o destroy_v the_o church_n or_o envy_n help_v to_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n 5._o if_o they_o have_v cause_n to_o suspect_v the_o pastor_n of_o corruption_n and_o false_a judgement_n let_v they_o go_v to_o the_o other_o pastor_n that_o be_v faithful_a 6._o if_o all_o about_o we_o be_v corrupt_v and_o their_o judgement_n not_o to_o be_v rest_v in_o and_o the_o person_n be_v assure_v of_o their_o ability_n for_o the_o ministry_n let_v they_o consider_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n where_o they_o be_v and_o if_o they_o be_v sure_a on_o consultation_n with_o the_o wise_a man_n that_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n and_o their_o endeavour_n in_o the_o ministry_n be_v like_a to_o prevent_v any_o notable_a hurt_n without_o a_o great_a hurt_n let_v they_o use_v they_o without_o ordination_n if_o they_o can_v have_v it_o but_o if_o they_o find_v that_o the_o church_n be_v so_o competent_o supply_v without_o they_o that_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n or_o none_o which_o they_o can_v supply_v without_o do_v more_o hurt_v by_o offence_n and_o disorder_n then_o good_a by_o their_o labour_n let_v they_o forbear_v at_o home_n and_o go_v into_o some_o other_o country_n where_o there_o be_v great_a need_n if_o they_o be_v fit_a there_o for_o the_o work_n if_o not_o let_v they_o sit_v still_o sect._n 55._o argument_n 4._o if_o unordained_a man_n may_v baptise_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n then_o may_v they_o do_v other_o ministerial_a work_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v the_o opinion_n of_o those_o that_o we_o now_o dispute_v against_o and_o the_o consequence_n be_v ground_v on_o a_o parity_n of_o reason_n no_o man_n can_v show_v more_o for_o appropriate_v the_o eucharist_n than_o baptism_n to_o the_o minister_n chap._n iu._n a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o regular_a ordination_n be_v not_o necessary_a sect._n 1_o have_v prove_v the_o nonnecessity_n of_o ordination_n itself_o to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n passim_fw-la and_o validity_n of_o their_o administration_n i_o may_v be_v the_o short_a in_o most_o of_o the_o rest_n because_o they_o be_v sufficient_o prove_v in_o this_o if_o ordination_n itself_o be_v not_o of_o the_o necessity_n which_o the_o adversary_n do_v assert_v than_o the_o regularity_n of_o ordination_n can_v be_v of_o more_o necessity_n than_o ordination_n itself_o much_o less_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o such_o regular_a ordination_n yet_o this_o also_o be_v assert_v by_o most_o that_o we_o have_v now_o to_o do_v with_o sect._n 2._o by_o regular_a ordination_n i_o mean_v in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o adversary_n themselves_o such_o as_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n pronounce_v not_o null_a and_o such_o as_o by_o the_o canon_n be_v do_v by_o such_o as_o have_v authority_n to_o do_v it_o in_o special_a by_o true_a bishop_n even_o in_o their_o own_o sense_n sect._n 3_o and_o if_o the_o uninterrupted_a succession_n be_v not_o necessary_a than_o neither_o be_v such_o ordination_n at_o this_o present_a necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n for_o if_o any_o of_o our_o predecessor_n may_v be_v minister_n without_o it_o other_o in_o the_o like_a case_n may_v be_v so_o too_o for_o we_o live_v under_o the_o same_o law_n and_o the_o office_n be_v the_o same_o thing_n now_o as_o it_o be_v then_o sect._n 4._o argument_n 1._o if_o uninterrupted_a regular_a ordination_n of_o all_o our_o predecessor_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n than_o no_o man_n can_v know_v that_o he_o be_v true_o a_o minister_n of_o christ._n but_o the_o consequent_a be_v false_a and_o intolerable_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o antecedent_n sect._n 5._o the_o truth_n of_o the_o minor_a be_v apparent_a thus_o 1._o if_o we_o can_v not_o be_v sure_a that_o we_o be_v true_a minister_n than_o no_o man_n can_v with_o comfort_n seek_v the_o minstry_n nor_o enter_v into_o upon_o it_o for_o who_o can_v have_v encouragement_n to_o enter_v a_o call_n when_o he_o know_v not_o whether_o indeed_o he_o enter_v upon_o it_o or_o not_o and_o whether_o he_o engage_v not_o himself_o in_o a_o course_n of_o sin_n and_o be_v not_o guilty_a as_o vzza_n of_o meddle_v with_o the_o ark_n unlawful_o especial_o in_o so_o great_a and_o tender_a a_o case_n where_o god_n be_v so_o exceed_v jealous_a sect._n 6._o and_o 2._o who_o can_v go_v on_o in_o the_o call_v of_o the_o ministry_n and_o comfortable_o do_v the_o work_n and_o bear_v the_o burden_n that_o can_v know_v through_o all_o his_o life_n or_o in_o any_o administration_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o a_o usurper_n what_o a_o damp_n must_v it_o cast_v upon_o our_o spirit_n in_o prayer_n praise_n administration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o all_o public_a worship_n which_o shall_v be_v perform_v with_o the_o great_a alacrity_n and_o delight_n when_o we_o remember_v that_o we_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o god_n have_v send_v we_o or_o whether_o we_o be_v usurper_n that_o must_v one_o day_n hear_v who_o send_v you_o whence_o have_v you_o your_o power_n and_o who_o require_v this_o at_o your_o hand_n sect._n 7._o and_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o major_n that_o we_o be_v all_o uncertain_a of_o our_o call_n and_o office_n both_o papist_n and_o protestant_n be_v most_o clear_a in_o case_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o such_o successive_a ordination_n for_o 1._o no_o man_n ever_o do_v to_o this_o day_n demomstrate_v such_o a_o succession_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o can_v all_o our_o importunity_n
onuphrius_n navarrus_n yea_o bellarmine_n and_o pope_n nicola●_n who_o maintain_v that_o in_o summo_fw-la pontifice_fw-la p●st_fw-la electionem_fw-la nulla_fw-la alia_fw-la requiritur_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la quia_fw-la statim_fw-la ut_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la suscipit_fw-la administrationem_fw-la and_o to_o this_o agree_v their_o practice_n who_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v many_o bishop_n mere_o elect_a and_o elect_a cardinal_n be_v admit_v to_o elect_a a_o pope_n his_o six_o argument_n be_v quod_fw-la consecratio_fw-la seu_fw-la investitura_fw-la potest_fw-la ab●sse_fw-la aliquo_fw-la in_o casu_fw-la electio_fw-la autem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la ergo_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la seu_fw-la potestatis_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la est_fw-la electio_fw-la &_o non_fw-la consecratio_fw-la which_o he_o endeavour_v to_o confirm_v my_o opinion_n of_o the_o fundamentum_fw-la potestatis_fw-la i_o have_v express_v in_o my_o christian_a concord_n othrrwise_o but_o yet_o i_o consent_v as_o be_v there_o express_v to_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o people_n consent_n to_o our_o office_n sect._n 90._o argument_n 20._o if_o those_o in_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o be_v ordain_v by_o presbyter_n have_v as_o good_a a_o call_n to_o the_o ministerial_a office_n as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o nation_n yea_o any_o one_o of_o they_o have_v to_o their_o sovereignty_n or_o power_n then_o be_v they_o true_a minister_n of_o christ_n and_o their_o administration_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o their_o ministry_n to_o be_v receive_v but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a and_o i_o prove_v they_o both_o sect._n 91._o the_o secular_a power_n will_v be_v grant_v as_o to_o the_o most_o at_o least_o of_o christian_n prince_n and_o other_o sovereign_n when_o the_o holy_a ghost_n command_v subjection_n to_o the_o high_a power_n even_o when_o they_o be_v heathen_a and_o come_v in_o as_o ne●o_n do_v rom._n 13._o we_o may_v well_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o christian_a magistrate_n that_o have_v no_o better_a title_n than_o he_o be_v such_o as_o we_o must_v be_v subject_a to_o even_o those_o that_o have_v not_o so_o lawful_a a_o entrance_n as_o may_v justify_v their_o possession_n or_o free_v they_o from_o the_o guilt_n of_o flat_a usurpation_n before_o god_n may_v yet_o ●e_v such_o while_n they_o be_v in_o possession_n as_o we_o must_v be_v subject_a to_o for_o conscience_n sake_n and_o all_o their_o administration_n be_v ●s_n valid_a to_o the_o innocent_a subject_n as_o if_o they_o have_v as_o good_a a_o title_n as_o the_o best_a they_o that_o deny_v this_o must_v overthrow_v almost_o all_o the_o commonwealth's_a on_o earth_n and_o turn_v subjection_n into_o rebellion_n sect._n 92._o the_o consequence_n than_o be_v prove_v from_o the_o parity_n of_o reason_n in_o both_o 〈◊〉_d the_o title_n of_o such_o prince_n be_v so_o far_o good_a as_o that_o subjection_n be_v due_a to_o they_o and_o their_o government_n valid_a our_o title_n to_o the_o ministry_n be_v at_o least_o as_o good_a as_o they_o therefore_o submission_n or_o obedience_n be_v due_a to_o we_o and_o our_o administration_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o that_o our_o title_n be_v as_o good_a as_o they_o will_v appear_v by_o a_o due_a comparison_n sect._n 93._o 1._o god_n be_v equal_o the_o author_n of_o our_o office_n and_o of_o they_o he_o that_o appoint_v the_o magistrate_n to_o rule_v by_o force_n appoint_v the_o ministry_n to_o teach_v and_o guide_n and_o worship_n public_o before_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o power_n but_o of_o god_n even_o magistrate_n can_v have_v none_o unless_o it_o be_v give_v they_o from_o above_o 2._o usurpation_n therefore_o be_v a_o sin_n in_o magistrate_n as_o well_o as_o minister_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v invalidate_v their_o action_n as_o we_o if_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o it_o 3._o the_o dissenter_n rule_v nemo_fw-la that_o quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la concern_v the_o magistrate_n as_o much_o as_o the_o minister_n and_o somewhat_o more_o a_o man_n may_v do_v more_o in_o work_n of_o service_n to_o other_o without_o a_o special_a office_n then_o in_o magisterial_a government_n magistracy_n be_v a_o relation_n that_o must_v have_v a_o foundation_n or_o efficient_a cause_n as_o well_o as_o ministry_n if_o a_o giver_n that_o himself_o have_v the_o power_n give_v be_v necessary_a to_o make_v minister_n than_o also_o to_o make_v magistrate_n which_o yet_o be_v false_a in_o both_o if_o you_o speak_v of_o humane_a donation_n to_o the_o sovereign_n the_o effect_n can_v no_o more_o be_v without_o a_o cause_n in_o they_o then_o in_o we_o 4._o i●_n the_o election_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n be_v enough_o to_o make_v a_o magistrate_n or_o to_o be_v the_o foundation_n or_o donation_n as_o they_o suppose_v of_o his_o authority_n then_o much_o more_o may_v the_o election_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n with_o the_o approbation_n and_o investiture_n by_o presbyter_n and_o allowance_n of_o the_o magistrate_n prove_v those_o in_o question_n to_o be_v true_a minister_n 5._o no_o prince_n on_o earth_n that_o ever_o ●_o hear_v of_o can_v prove_v any_o thing_n like_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o legitimate_a prince_n from_o a_o predecessor_n immediate_o authorize_v by_o god_n if_o hereditary_a prince_n that_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o usurper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v it_o will_v be_v hard_a to_o find_v a_o hereditary_a prince_n that_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v so_o that_o their_o case_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o case_n of_o minister_n sect._n 94._o for_o though_o 1._o no_o pastor_n on_o earth_n can_v prove_v a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o person_n lawful_o ordain_v 2._o nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o prove_v a_o local_a succession_n because_o god_n have_v not_o tie_v his_o church_n to_o town_n or_o country_n and_o a_o church_n and_o pastor_n that_o be_v banish_v into_o another_o land_n may_v there_o be_v the_o same_o church_n and_o pastor_n though_o in_o and_o of_o another_o place_n yet_o 1._o we_o have_v a_o succession_n of_o possession_n in_o the_o office_n itself_o 2._o and_o a_o succession_n of_o actual_a ordination_n in_o great_a probability_n no_o man_n can_v prove_v against_o we_o that_o we_o receive_v our_o ministry_n from_o any_o that_o be_v not_o actual_o ordain_v yet_o this_o much_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o our_o office_n sect._n 95._o object_n but_o christ_n have_v tie_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o a_o legitimate_a ordination_n but_o he_o have_v not_o tie_v the_o magistracy_n to_o a_o lawful_a title_n answ._n here_o be_v two_o falsehood_n bare_o affirm_v or_o employ_v one_o be_v that_o a_o just_a title_n be_v less_o necessary_a to_o the_o magistrate_n than_o the_o minister_n when_o the_o reason_n of_o both_o be_v the_o same_o title_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o right_n magistracy_n be_v a_o right_n of_o govern_v no_o relation_n can_v be_v without_o its_o foundation_n the_o other_o be_v that_o god_n have_v tie_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o a_o legitimate_a ordination_n this_o be_v unprove_v and_o i_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a before_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o enter_v by_o legitimate_a ordination_n where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v and_o thus_o we_o do_v but_o if_o any_o of_o our_o predecessor_n perhaps_o a_o thousand_o or_o five_o hundred_o year_n ago_o do_v enter_v otherwise_o that_o do_v not_o invalidate_v our_o ordination_n or_o ministry_n nor_o be_v it_o any_o of_o our_o sin_n sect._n 96._o as_o minister_n be_v at_o first_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n so_o king_n be_v choose_v by_o god_n and_o in_o the_o church_n anoint_v by_o a_o prophet_n or_o special_a officer_n of_o god_n and_o sometime_o by_o the_o people_n that_o be_v by_o their_o suffrage_n appoint_v it_o or_o consent_v to_o it_o as_o appear_v 1_o sam._n 10.1_o &_o 15.17_o &_o 16.13_o &_o 24.6_o 2_o sam._n 2.4_o 7._o &_o 5.3_o &_o 12.7_o &_o 19.10_o 1_o king_n 1.45_o &_o 5.1_o 2_o king_n 11.12_o &_o 23.30_o 2_o chron._n 22.7_o so_o that_o there_o be_v as_o much_o in_o scripture_n for_o this_o manner_n of_o their_o investiture_n as_o there_o be_v for_o minister_n ordination_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n yet_o may_v they_o be_v king_n that_o have_v no_o such_o investiture_n much_o less_o all_o their_o predecessor_n we_o then_o that_o have_v a_o due_a investiture_n may_v prove_v our_o ministry_n whatever_o our_o predecessor_n have_v sect._n 97._o i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o adversary_n of_o our_o ministry_n which_o i_o need_v not_o stand_v long_o on_o because_o they_o be_v few_o and_o scarce_o considerable_a and_o sufficient_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v say_v and_o first_o its_o say_a by_o a_o learned_a man_n diss●rta●_n de_fw-fr episcop_n contra_fw-la blondel_n praemoni●_n ad_fw-la l●ctor_n sect_n 4.13_o nos_fw-la illud_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la disc●ptatione_n pro_fw-la concesso_fw-la positum_fw-la cens●bimus_fw-la