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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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constitute_v in_o a_o family_n gen._n 17.12_o 13._o or_o in_o the_o nation_n exod._n 12._o 47_o 41_o 49._o as_o baptism_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o and_o only_o those_o that_o come_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o their_o child_n i_o say_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o be_v the_o parent_n come_v in_o at_o least_o into_o the_o universal_a visible_a christian_a church_n by_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o so_o this_o difference_n pretend_v by_o mr._n t._n between_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n come_v if_o not_o to_o a_o sameness_n yet_o to_o a_o likeness_n and_o so_o the_o reason_n thus_o far_o apparent_o to_o i_o be_v the_o same_o between_o both_o and_o the_o like_a argument_n may_v be_v draw_v for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o one_o as_o of_o the_o other_o the_o four_o and_o last_o exception_n mr._n t._n make_v against_o this_o argument_n out_o of_o gen._n 17._o be_v 2._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 2._o that_o these_o term_n federate_a and_o to_o be_v sign_v be_v not_o convertible_a answ_n they_o be_v convertible_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o equity_n for_o mr._n t._n will_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o those_o sign_v with_o circumcision_n gen._n 17._o or_o etc._n etc._n for_o of_o circumcision_n be_v the_o question_n immediate_o now_o according_a to_o mr._n t._n his_o instance_n p._n 4._o l._n 16._o be_v federate_a be_v reckon_v and_o to_o be_v reckon_v in_o the_o covenant_n at_o the_o time_n of_o do_v it_o and_o after_o till_o contrary_a cause_n appear_v and_o all_o federate_a or_o count_v within_o the_o covenant_n be_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o circumcision_n so_o this_o text_n gen._n 17.7_o 8_o 9_o i_o be_o a_o god_n to_o thou_o and_o to_o thy_o seed_n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o that_o every_o man-child_n be_v circumcise_v but_o to_o this_o four_o exception_n partic._n exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 4._o 1_o partic._n mr._n t._n argue_v that_o some_o there_o be_v 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by_o which_o infant-baptisme_n itself_o may_v be_v under-propped_n partly_o the_o defect_n in_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n which_o in_o very_a deed_n be_v to_o be_v supply_v by_o the_o lawful_a use_n of_o baptism_n of_o that_o it_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v not_o in_o itself_o weak_a and_o insufficient_a for_o its_o proper_a work_n but_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o in_o the_o business_n of_o infant-baptisme_n ergo._n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o instance_n they_o be_v 1._o the_o use_n of_o surety_n in_o baptism_n which_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n for_o a_o shadowy_a supplement_n and_o i_o have_v almost_o say_v sport_v of_o that_o profession_n of_o faith_n which_o at_o first_o be_v make_v by_o the_o baptize_v in_o his_o own_o person_n 2._o episcopal_a confirmation_n in_o which_o the_o bishop_n lay_v hand_n or_o anoint_v the_o catechize_v that_o baptism_n or_o the_o baptise_a may_v be_v confirm_v and_o they_o make_v capable_a of_o the_o lord_n supper_n 3._o the_o reform_a union_n by_o examination_n confession_n subscriptition_n of_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n before_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o eucharist_n of_o which_o parker_n of_o eccles_n policy_n l._n 3._o c._n 16._o 4._o the_o church-covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o afore_o the_o admission_n of_o member_n into_o church-fellowship_n of_o which_o the_o new-england_n elder_n in_o the_o little_a book_n in_o english_a call_v church-covenant_n which_o in_o very_a deed_n be_v devise_v to_o supply_v the_o place_n of_o baptism_n for_o by_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n institution_n a_o person_n be_v exhibit_v a_o member_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o church_n 1_o cor._n 12.13_o gal._n 3.27_o ephes_n 4.5_o the_o seven_o argument_n arg._n 7_o confirm_v §_o 20._o the_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n from_o the_o error_n occasion_v by_o it_o confirm_v that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o error_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v right_a but_o the_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n have_v occasion_v either_o the_o birth_n or_o foster_a of_o many_o error_n ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o instance_n 1._o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v 2._o that_o baptism_n be_v regeneration_n 3._o that_o infant_n die_v be_v save_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n of_o surety_n of_o the_o church_n receive_v into_o her_o lap_n which_o be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v alone_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o christ_n 4._o that_o some_o regenerate_a person_n may_v utter_o fall_v from_o grace_n the_o eight_o argument_n that_o which_o have_v cause_v many_o abuse_n and_o fault_n in_o discipline_n arg._n 8_o confirm_v §._o 22._o the_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n from_o many_o abuse_v cause_v by_o it_o confirm_v and_o divine_a worship_n and_o conversation_n of_o man_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o infant-baptisme_n be_v such_o ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o enumeration_n 1._o private_a baptism_n 2._o baptism_n by_o woman_n 3._o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o yet_o bring_v into_o light_n 4._o baptism_n of_o infant_n of_o uncertain_a progeny_n who_o we_o call_v child_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o world_n 5._o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o know_v not_o the_o lord_n nor_o have_v ever_o consent_v or_o perhaps_o will_v consent_v to_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n 6._o it_o have_v bring_v in_o the_o admission_n of_o ignorance_n and_o profane_a man_n into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o who_o can_v deny_v right_o the_o right_a of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o baptize_v 7_o it_o pervert_v the_o order_n of_o discipline_n that_o first_o a_o man_n be_v baptize_v and_o after_o among_o the_o catechize_v 8_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o mere_a ceremony_n yea_o into_o a_o profane_a meeting_n to_o feast_v together_o 9_o man_n forget_v baptism_n as_o if_o they_o be_v never_o baptize_v so_o that_o it_o have_v the_o force_n of_o a_o carnal_a rite_n not_o of_o a_o spiritual_a institution_n 10_o it_o take_v away_o or_o at_o least_o diminish_v zeal_n and_o industry_n in_o know_v the_o gospel_n the_o nine_o argument_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a argum_fw-la 9_o confirm_v §_o 22._o the_o argument_n from_o unnecessary_a dispute_n cause_v by_o it_o against_o infant-baptisme_n confirm_v that_o yield_v occasion_n to_o many_o unnecessary_a dispute_n foster_a only_a contention_n and_o which_o can_v be_v determine_v by_o any_o certain_a rule_n but_o the_o tenet_n or_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v such_o ergo._n it_o be_v prove_v by_o instance_n 1_o of_o baptise_v the_o infant_n of_o excommunicate_v person_n 2_o of_o baptise_v the_o infant_n of_o apostate_n 3_o of_o baptise_v the_o infant_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o be_v not_o member_n in_o a_o gather_a church_n 4_o of_o