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A93387 Of the al-svfficient external proposer of matters of faith. Devided into tvvo bookes In the first. Is proved, that the true church of God, is the al-sufficient external proposer of matters of faith. In the second. Is shewed the manifold uncertanities of Protestants concerning the scripture: and how scripture is, or is not, an entire rule of faith. By C. R. doctor of diuinitie. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1653 (1653) Wing S4156; ESTC R228293 181,733 514

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p._n 408._o i'faith_o sure_o rely_v upon_o authoritie-authoritie_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o p._n ibid._n principium_fw-la credende_fw-la ab_fw-la externa_fw-la authoritate_fw-la pendet_fw-la 509._o to_o believe_v s●me_v authority_n be_v necessary_a nor_o can_v any_o thing_n be_v beleve_v without_o authority_n and_o l._n 1._o p._n 50._o that_o thou_o say_v our_o faith_n rely_v upon_o testmony_n not_o upon_o argument_n i_o grant_v laude_n relat._n sec_fw-la 38._o p._n 345._o we_o do_v not_o believe_v one_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o fallible_a authority_n of_o humane_a deduction_n and_o hereupon_o they_o define_v divine_a faith_n to_o be_v a_o assent_n to_o divine_a revelation_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o revealer_n and_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o protestant_n can_v believe_v either_o bible_n melanctho●_n in_o proedi●amento_fw-la qualita●is_fw-la ●hillingw_n c._n 11._o p._n 35._o protestant's_n can_v have_v no_o formal_a faith_n of_o their_o bible_n the_o 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testimony_n how_o can_v divine_a faith_n be_v the_o effect_n of_o a_o humane_a testimony_n sixteenth_o chapter_n that_o protestant_n do_v diverse_a way_n grant_v that_o the_o authority_n or_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o formal_a cause_n of_o divine_a faith_n 1._o this_o follow_v first_o out_o of_o that_o they_o grant_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o matter_n of_o 2._o s●p_n c._n 15._o n._n 2._o faith_n to_o be_v divine_a for_o doubtless_o if_o it_o be_v divine_a it_o may_v be_v some_o formal_a cause_n of_o divine_a faith_n nay_o they_o think_v as_o be_v before_o show_v that_o if_o it_o be_v divine_a it_o may_v be_v the_o ultimate_a formal_a cause_n of_o divine_a faith_n but_o otherwise_o they_o grant_v it_o also_o for_o first_o they_o confess_v that_o the_o cause_n why_o they_o believe_v the_o scripture_n be_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n whitaker_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la scriptura_fw-la p._n 320._o i_o grant_v indeed_o that_o the_o 459._o ratio_fw-la credend●_fw-la est_fw-la prope_a quam_fw-la credimus_fw-la whitaker_n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr scrip._n p_o 442._o 459._o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v because_o 〈◊〉_d be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n p._n 312._o all_o christian_n be_v move_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n to_o believe_v the_o gospel_n cont._n 1._o q._n 3._o c._n 9_o all_o these_o father_n what_o other_o thing_n do_v they_o prove_v then_o that_o the_o gospel_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v because_o it_o have_v always_o be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n and_o some_o book_n to_o be_v reject_v because_o the_o church_n always_o because_o because_o reject_v they_o this_o we_o most_o willing_o grant_v ibid._n sec_fw-la 5._o p._n 322._o we_o believe_v they_o for._n for._n to_o be_v canonical_a not_o for_o the_o only_a testimony_n or_o authority_n of_o the_o by._n by._n church_n to_o believe_v these_o book_n to_o be_v canonical_a and_o ibid._n c._n 1._o this_o way_n seem_v for._n for._n tolerable_a that_o 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