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A55142 Loyalty and conformity asserted, in two parts the first preached the seventh of August, 1681 ... : the second preached the sixteenth of October, 1681 ... / by Jos. Pleydell ... Pleydell, Josiah, d. 1707. 1682 (1682) Wing P2568; ESTC R17033 24,967 48

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LOYALTY AND CONFORMITY Asserted IN TWO SERMONS THE FIRST Preached the Seventh of August 1681. in the Abby Church of Bath THE SECOND Preached the Sixteenth of October 1681. at Badminton By Jos Pleydell Arch-Deacon of Chichester LONDON Printed for Joanna Brome at the Gun at the West-End of St. Paul's 1682. To the most Honourable Henry Lord Marquess of Worcester c. My Lord FOr the same Reason others usually pretend in choosing the Patronage of Great Men I should industriously decline your Lordships above all Mens I know viz. For those Extraordinary Abilities and great Judgment your Lordship's Master of I should never be able to excuse to my self the Vanity and Presumption of this Address to a person of far inferiour Characters to your Lordship had you not first discovered your inclinations to Accept it Then it became my Duty I must confess I never did value my self upon any thing so much as your Lordships favourable Estimation and should do it more if I thought the performance might answer or deserve it If in doing my self this Honour I have not disserv'd the cause therein Asserted nor your Lordship sink by it in the Veneration all Men had before of your exact judgment I have exceeded my own hopes My Lord I am your Lordships most humble and most obedient Servant Jos Pleydell LOYALTY CONFORMITY Asserted IN A SERMON ON Romans 13.4 For he beareth not the Sword in vain LET every Soul be subject to the higher Powers verse 1. saith this Submit your selves to every Ordinance of Man saith another Apostle 1 Pet. 2.13 Here 's a couple of Tory Bishops for ye Base Sycophants and Court Flatterers who for fear or for hope would go to fill a Princes head with Ambitious and Arbitrary Principles Sneaking low Spirits that would say any thing to save their Necks and respit the Princes fury Or poor Wretches peradventure whose Lot placed them in such ill Circumstances How were they feign to Preach in compliance with the times and talk according to the Infant-state of the Churches Minority Surely had they liv'd in those more glorious times of Liberty that happened in this Inquisitive and Learned Age they would have Preached at another Rate I believe they might had they writ their Epistles with the same spirit wherewith the Modern Catholicks writ that we reformed from or the more Modern Protestants that have reformed from us But seriously Sirs these men Preached a great Truth and meant it in the plain sence they spoke it without any Equivocation about the Powers or Reservation as to the time and opportunity And this they did not to humor the times but to inform our Consciences and discharge their own Ev●n for Conscience sake saith one And for the Lords sake saith the other The case of Subjection and Obedience is so trite a Theme not only in the worst sence that grieves me old and slighted but in a better sence I fancy pinches them viz. There has been said so much and so well upon that Subject by the Church of England men that they never could nor never will tell how to answer And if upon the former accompt it be more needfull to be urged and inculcated upon the latter I think it less till it be better answered than by noise and force But I decline it for another reason viz. the ineffectiveness of this sort of menaging these men who abound with the qualities of those good natured Children that do more for a blow than a word A Generation that grow Obdurate by Convictions Insolent by Kindness and whom nothing but the Execution of the Penal Laws could ever keep within their duty Indeed Lenity and Kindness are the best expedients where they will obtain but not with such Cattle the Psalmist speaks of in Psalm 59. that are always barking at their Superiors and grudging they are not satisfied This is no doubt most agreeable to the Prince for besides that a man must sink below humane Nature that can delight in oppression and blood and must be a Devil that makes Innocence and Obedience the Ground on 't It makes his Government the more secure and easie by freeing at once them of their hatred and him of his fear I if it meet with Loyalty and Obedience in the governed 't is a most happy Conjunction But to forgive men that have Rebelled once and to stand still and let them do it a second time is an odd way of securing the Government in the opinion of all that love it I would be glad the experience of these mens former Errours had made them change their Principles and that we might have but a just occasion to commend the Modesty and Ingenuity of the men of that way That their whole Character in the Sermon were a lye and the design of it needless That they would post merit the former act by their Repentance and by their amendment stand in no need of another This This is the method the Apostle does prescribe to divert the Princes Anger verse 3. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the Power do that which is Good The way to avoid the severity of their displeasure is to live in obedience to their Laws And thou shalt have praise of the same The end of that verse And those whom the Conscience of Religion and the Love of their Prince cannot make so Fear and the Penal Sanctions of the Law must be tryed with verse 4. If thou do that which is evil be afraid And as 't is their fault they don't do their duty so 't is the Princes if he does not punish them in neglecting Gods Trust and his own Right for he beareth not the Sword in vain Two things I have propounded to discourse to you from the words I have chosen The Power and Authority of the Civil Magistrate particularly in reference to the punishing of Offenders and His Duty and Office in the Regular discharge of that Trust and due Improvement of that Power Without the former all Government would be nothing but Violence and Vsurpation and without the latter Vain and Ridiculous The Rise and Origine The Expedience and Necessity And The Extent and Latitude of this Power In the first Place therefore as to its Rise and Origine for as in Science that is the best way of Demonstrating the Effects by the Cause or as in Nature all the perfections of a Plant are contained in its Seminal Principles in like manner if we can but discover and fix upon the first cause of the Magistrates Power we shall be easie able to trace it down to all the branches Settle but this Foundation and we need not fear all that stately Structure will remain secure against the Assaults and Batteries of the Plebeians and Hobbists both of which proceed upon one and the same Anarchical Principle making the People the Fountain of all Power In contradiction to both I do assert That all Dominion and Sovereignty is Original in God to whom our Subjection is the