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A49577 Six conferences concerning the Eucharist wherein is shewed, that the doctrine of transubstantiation overthrows the proofs of Christian religion. La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1687 (1687) Wing L430; ESTC R5182 76,714 124

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