10. He proceedeth After the pouring forth of the Spirit Act. 2 4. they are said to speak as the holy Ghost gave utterance and not what they had studied Ans. It is very true The Apostles then gote their divinity and knowledge in the mysteries of the Gospel miraculously taught them by immediat Infusion and withall gote the gift of tongues to speak to all people and languages And such as would expect such teaching now may as well expect the extraordinary gift of tongues which the Apostles gote And who seeth not how absurd this is Beside what was granted to the Apostles was not granted to all the Church Officers in those dayes no not to Evangelists who were extraordinary let be to ordinary Pastours and Doctors Nay none of all the extraordinary officers had all that the Apostles had One thing I would learne of hâ—m Can he tell me when and wherâ— theâ—e Apostles did Introvert to the gift within them in order to the obtaining of these rare qualifications or to the preaching of the word If he cannot do this he will finde no ground for his methode in this that is said of the Apostles They were infallible and acted by an infallible Spirit in their Teachings and Writings thinks he that this is expected or required of all Ministers now Or thinks he that his Quaker-Pratters are such Whatever he may dreame the Christian world may see the contrary What he citeth out of Lambertus I freely assent unto for my part 11. Next he tels us Pag. 250. § 19. That our way of preaching is hurtful and destructive because contrare to the nature of the Christian and Apostolicke Miniâ—trie 1 Cor. 1 17. Wherein It is not by the motion and acting of the Spirit but by mens Invention and eloquence by natural strength and acquired learning the Apostles preaching was not so 1 Cor. 2 3 4 5. Ans. The Spirit helping by ordinary meanes is not contrary to himself helping in an extraoâ—dinary way The Apostles way was peculiar to themselves It is a groundless imagination to think that all that is spoken by dependence upon God in the use of ordinary meanes and not by immediat Inspiration is wisdom of words making the Cross of Christ of none effect or is entiseing words of mans wisdome opposite to the demonstration of the Spirit and of power If any man study painted words and rhetorick to darken the wisdom of Goâ— in this mystery I will not approve of it but to study to finde out acceptable words as the Preacher did Eccles. 12 10. And words to render the Gospel plaine and intelligible to the hearers with a single dependance on God for his assistance herein I shall never think that Paul condemned this But sayes he the Preachers themselves confess that they are strangers to the Spirit of God and to his Operations Ans. Not all I hope though I hope also that none of them will with these bold and blasphemous Quakers pretend to immediat Inspirations This Quaker it seemeth knoweth nothing of the workings of the Spirit of God in and by meanes and will have all by immediat Revelations and Inspirations and before he want these he will go to the Devil to get them as Saul did go to the witch at Endor when the Lord would not answere him by the meanes then usual 12. Againe he sayes Pag. 251. It is contrare to the order and methode of the primitive Church 1 Cor. 14 20. c. Not considering that these were extraordinary Prophets Readeth he that these Prophets did Introvert into the light within them to get these Revelations However we see that Quakers are all Prophets in their owne account But sure I am they are not Prophets of the living God nor are the Revelations which they boast of divine but diabolick His last argum is that by our way the Spirit of God is excluded What way He tels us not and we can not beleeve him But he addeth And the natural wisdom and learning of man is exalted This is his mistake which he could see if the beam were out of his eye All their learning and wisdome is the pure product of Nature if not worse as we have oftentimes manifested for it cometh not from the Spirit of God neither mediatly nor immediatly but riseth out of the dung hill of nature and is extracted thence by the natural strength of man and all its works and effects are like the cause and original except where the Devil getteth in his finger in a more immediat way This is sayes he the chiefe and great cause why preachings are so unfruitful Poor man knoweth he no better Did not Christ and his Apostles preach to many that were not converted thereby Thinks he that the only cause why our preachings are so unfruitful is because we preach not by Inspiration And are their preachments so fruitful It may be too fruitful but that is no proof to me that they preach by the true Revelations and Inspirations of God for I read that when the Lord sends strong delusions men will beleeve a lie I read that all the world wondered after the Beaâ—t I have heard it said too that all the world became Arian All the world is not yet become Quakers see also what is said 2 Pet. 2 1 2 3. Yea sayes he according to this doctrine the Devil himself may and ought to be heard seing he knoweth the notion of truth and excelleth any of them in learning and eloquence we see when the Devil confessed the truth Christ rejected his testimony Ans Why doth the man thus speak untruth Do we say that every one though he were the Devil if he speak truth should be heard What countenance doâ—h our opinion in this matter give to this dreame I should think his judgment speaketh fairer for it for I trow the Devil needs noâ— study nor read books but can give out Revelations and Enthusiasmes as many as you will And be it in whomsoever he speaketh by Revelations or Inspirations or Enthuâ—iasmes Quaker or other Christ and his Apostles will reject his testimony though it should be true upon the matter And therefore after the example of Christ and his Apostle Paul we receive no testimony from Quakers themselves giving such palpable evidences of the Devil speaking in them and by them 13. To an Objection taken from the experience of all ages since the Apostles dayes to wit that God by his Spirit hath concurred with our way of preaching to the conversion and edification of many He answereth § 20. thus That though he will not deny this yet it will not follow that that practice was good more then it was good for Paul to go to Damascus to persecute the Saints because he did meet with Christ in the way Answ. His simile is a dissimilitude and hath no correspondence with the thing in hand Our Argument is That since the Apostles dayes and the ceasing of extraordinary gifts there hath been no other way of preaching but
Againe how could Christ and his Apostles confirme their doctrine by the Scriptures Press to a study and search of them Convince persons of errour by them and the like seing still this shift was as ready at hand for them to use as it is for the Quakers today I pray hâ—m to cleare me in these particulars if he can 13. But if the meaning of his Assertion be That we know only by the inward Testimoâ—y of the Spirit that the book of the Scriptures is indeed the word of God what will this helpe his cause Nothing at all for the Testimony of the Spirit is a true Testimony and if the Spirit testifie that that book is the Word of God that book must indeed be the Word of God and it must be the Word of God before that testimony be given to it for the Testimony doth not make it such but witnesseth it to be such and so before that Testimony of the Spirit come the will of God contained in that book must oblige us to Beleeve it and Obey it for what is the revealed will of God cannot but oblige such unto whom it is revealed But if it be said That even the will of God contained in the Scriptures cannot oblige us untill a new Revelation come to perswade us of the certainty that it is the will of God I answere Then 1. The Assertions of the God of truth and the Lawes and Commands of the Supream Lawgiver have no obleiging force upon us to Beleeve and Obey untill we be perswaded these Truths and Lawes are Divine and so the authority of the Lawes dependeth upon and is derived from the minde of the Subject and no more shall be law than he will 2. Then the Revelation of the minde of God doth not carry alongs with it its owne Evidence 3. Then the Second Revelation can as little carry alongs with it its own evidence as the First and we must have a Third to give us the perswasion of its certanety and the Third will stand in need of a Fourth and so in infinitum and hereby we shall never come to any certanty but still fluctuate notwithstanding of Revelations upon Revelations 14. He adduceth Apol. P. 36 37. Calv. Instit. Lib. 1. c. 7. s. 4 5. The French Confession of faith Art 4. The Belgick Confess Art 5. And the Confession framed at Westminster Cap. 1. S. 5. which last he cannot cite without a jibe at these worthy Divines thereby evidenceing what a Spirit acteth him But to the point I say 1. What is spoken here of the Spirit is in Opposition to the Testimony of Men or of the Church which the Romanists alleiged 2. They speak not of an Objective certanty as if before this perswasion wrought by the Spirit there was no ground to beleeve and receive these for the Scriptures of truth or as if indeed before this they had not been the Scriptures of truth but of a Subjective certanty and therefore they call it Perswasion and Assurance now this doth not create an Objective certainty but preâ—upposeth it and only helpeth the soul to see that Objective certainty and rest upon it with full Conviction and Assurance 3. They speak not of any Immediat Revelation or Inspiration but of an ordinary work of the Spirit efficiently effectuating this Perswasion and Assurance 4. They expresly tell us that this work of the Spirit is by and with the word and not an Inspiration distinct and seperated from it anâ— by the gracious effects of the word in and upon the hearts of People which evidently demonstrate the cause to be divine and that Word which hath such Powerful Noble and Divine Effects upon the soul to to be of a divine Original flowing from that Supream Verity or Veracity and from that Supream Authority and so to be purely divine 15. Though this be enough to discover the vanity of this mans Alleigance yet I shall for the Readers satisfaction a little further cleare the matter There are in the Scriptures such innate marks and evidences of divine Majesty Power and Authority whereby as Light and Heat prove and demonstrate themselves so the Scriptures evince themselves to be of God by their Light Life Power Majesty Divine which is also manifested by these particulars mentioned in our Confession of faith to wit The Heavenliness of the matter The Efficacy of the Doctrine The Majestie of the stile The Consent of all the parts The Scope of the whole which is to give all glory to God The full Discovery it maketh of the only Way of Mans salvation The many other Incomparable Excellencies and the Intire Perfection therof These are arguments which it carryeth alongs with it whereby it doth abundantly evince it self to be the word of God as the heavens declare themselves to be of God not by any voice or testimony but by the Characters of Infinite Power so legible upon them that all that run may read The Spirit in working up the soul unto a Conviction and Perswasion that the Scriptures are the word of God doth those things First He cleareth up the characters of divinity that are in the Scriptures formerly dark to the man through prejudice or other causes and so maketh the Object plaine and manifest Next He conveyeth light into the Minde whereby the man is enabled to discerne and perceive these Grounds and Evidences which are the characters of divinity as a man when clouds are removed and his eyes are opened to see the beames of light flowing from the body of the Sun is convinced and perswaded that the Sun is arisen in our horizon Now this work of the Spirit hath its various Measures and Degrees not to mention that which is truely saving whereby the man is not only Enabled to see the forementioned grounds to a conviction but through a gracious Work of the Spirit on the whole soul is made to close with these grounds with joy and delights and to accept of the Scriptures upon these Grounds with full perswasion of soul as having this truth that these Scriptures are the word of God deeply impressed oâ— his spirit and sealed by the Holy Ghost So that he embraceth them as the very word of God and closeth with them with all Reverence and cheerfull Submission of soul receiving with faith the Truths there delivered and submitting to the Commands thereof heartily and cheerfully through grace Not to mention this I say which as it respecteth the matter contained in the word and the sutable improvement thereof is not of our present concernment this work of the Spirit admits of degrees whether we consider the Object or Evidences which lye in the Scripture or the Subject the â—llumination of the minde to see the cleared Evidences and Grounds for to some the Grounds and Evidences may be more clear and unquestionable than to others and some may have a larger Illumination of understanding and so a greater capacity to see the divine Original of the Scriptures than others and
Adams first transgressiâ—n t is answered thus The Covenant being made with Adam as a publick person not for himself only but for his posterity all mankinde descending from him by ordinary generation sinned in him and fell with him in that first transgressiâ—n 5. Concerning this sin which is under various names and titles pointed forth to us in Scripture being called Sin by way of eminency Rom. 6.12 7 8. the Old Man Rom. 6 6. a Law in the members Rom. 7 23. the Body of sin Rom. 6 6. a Body of death Rom. 7 24. In dwelling sin Rom 7 17 20. Evill present Rom 7 21. These are meaned of this Sin as seated in and derived unto the posteriâ—y but as committed first by Adam Paul Rom. 5 calleth it Sin Offence Transgression Disoâ—edience and concerning its Propagation or Traduction unto the posterity many questions and doubts are moved which we are not to meddle with our purpose not being to treate of this Subject but only to vindicate the orthodox doctrine from the exceptions of this Quaker and to discover his errour in this particular For which cause we need only take notice of two things concerning this Original sin First There is the Sin disobedience offence and transgression of Adam in eating of the forbidden fruit This though it was the sin of our nature in Adam yet is said to be imputed to our persons when we come to have a being by natural Generation and deâ—cent from Adam Secondly There is that wâ—ich followed upon and flowed from that transgression of Adam according to the nature and tenour of tâ—e Covenant wherein he stood as the head and representer of all mankinde viz. The Privation or Want of that Original righteousness which our Nature possessed in Adam and the Depravation Corruption Deordination of the whole man whereby he is Disabled to all good and wholly Inclined and disposed to evil and all evil and only evil continually till grace make a change This cannot properly be said to be imputed but being a just punishment as well as a sin of the sin committed by Adam is justly inflicted by the righteous God and conveyed from Adam to all his posterity as a leprosy and infectious disease corrupting the whole man which therefore is seated and subjected in the man so soon as he hath a being by natural generation from his immediat parents though both the guilt and this contagion be not received immediatly from our next parents but immediatly from Adam from whom we have our Nature as our Personal being from our immediat parents who stand in no nearer relation to Adam as the Head of Nature than we but all Father Son and Nephew c. stand in the same near relation to him in respect of Nature as lines to the same centre 6. Having premised these things let us now consider what this Quaker hath to say against this in his Fourth Thesis towards the end he setteth downe his Assertion in few words where before we mentione his words we cannot but take notice of a piece of more than ordinary shamelesness in this Man for in the words immediatly before he cometh in with a triumphing parad saying hence the errours of Socinians and Pelagians c. are rejected as if he would make his Reader beleeve thâ—t he did anathematize all the errours of Pelagians and Socinians wâ—en yet he licks up and hugs in his bosome a special fundamental part of Pelagianisme and Socinianisme adding which are the words we are now to take notice of Yet nevertheless this seed is not imputed unto infants but when they joyne themselves to it actually by sinning We must beare with this man's following the Quakers dialect for he will speak but as he pleaseth But for understanding of wâ—at he meaneth we must call to minde his foregoing words which we took notice of in the foregoing Chapter and examined where he mentioned the Seed of God of the touch whereof he said all Adam's posterity was deprived This cannot be the seed he here meaneth He mentioneâ— another Seed of Satan to which Adam's posterity was subject and this Seed he said Satan did sowe in the hearts of Men c. Now this must be that malignant and depraved seed whence all their Thoughts Words and Actions are evil which he here meaneth And this Seed he sayeth is not Imputed to Infants And we said lately that this originated sin or Corrupâ—ion of nature could not properly be said to be impuâ—ed becauâ—e it was properly inherent as a disease of nature But the thing that he would say is plainly enough expressed in his Apology Pag. 54. But others sayeth he go so far in the â—ther extremity to whom Augustine in his declineing age moved with zeal against the Pelagians did first of all the Ancients open the way as not only to confess that Men of themselves are unfit for good and inclined to evil but also to affirme that man even while in his Mothers womb and before he commit any actual sin is under the guilt and crime of sin by which he deserveth eternal death Whereby we see that he freeth Infants from the guilt of Adam's first sin and againe Pag. 55. he sayeth they impute nothing of Adam's sin unto Men until they make it their owne by such like acts of disobedience He is clear then for the Non-imputation of Adam's sin unto Infants and the Arguments he adduceth cleare his judgment yet more 7. Thus we have seen what are his thoughts of the Imputation of Adam's guilt But what thinketh he of the other particular the Corruption of Nature His Thesis could meane nothing else by the Seed of the Serpent and when he cometh to the explication of this part of the Thesis in his Apâ—logy Pag. 59 § 4. he tels us that this evil and corrupt seed is not imputed unto infants until they actually joyn themselves unto it by sin And by this evil and corrupt seed he meaneth that whicâ— he had been speaking of viz. the Corrupt nature of Man But Pag. 55. he would seem to câ—ntradict this when he sayeth We cannot conceive how Man who is naturally come of Adam can have any good in his nature pertaining to it which he had not from whom he is derived if then we may affirme that he in his nature retained no will belonging to it nor light capable of it self to manifest spiritual things so nor his posterity Whence you might think that as Adam by his fall lost Original righteousness and all aptitude in Will or Undeâ—standing unto spiriâ—ual things so â—lso his Posterity that came naturally of him in this mans opinion but his tâ—ue meaning is that though Infants descend naturally from Adam yet this Privation of Righteousness and Corruption of Will and Understanding is not imputed to Infants nor do they partake thereof until they sin actually for in the end of his discourse upon this head Pag. 62. he sayes that this seed of sin is not imputed to any till by
and have â—othing of it Imputed unto them which though this man may account no way absurd yet all Orthoeox Christians will be of another minde 5 He speaks dubiously concerning the Import of these two words and knoweth not whether their meaning be by which occasion or in which death and we have seen that the meaning cannot be by which Occasion And it will further appear from this that Adams sin could be no Occasion to such as never heard of it and our nearest Parents sins should be a greater Occasion and further what could Paul's meâ—tioning an Occasion contribute to his designe 6. Paul asserts that death passed upon all men and giveth this as a ground thereof that all men had sinned but this Man perverteth the Apostles words and meaning and maketâ— the Apostle speak thus death passed upon all men because all men will sin actually when they become capable 7. The Apostle sheweth that death passed upon all men and reigned even over Infants and so supposeth that Infants had sinned otherwayes his argument vers 12. had been of no value for the Instance of Infants who are a great part of Mankinde had destroyed the Apostles reasoning if they bad not been included under all men 8. He is angry at the Orthodox as we sâ—all hear afterward for restricting the particle all or the words all men though it be according to the exigence of the context But here he excludeth a great part of Mankinde contrary to the whole scope and disigne of the Text yea and to the Apostles expresse including of Infants and making use of their Case as a confirmation of his point 9 If he exclude Infants from this sin he must exclude them also from all benefite in Christs Obedience and then where is his Universal Redemption and his Universal Grace whereof he speaketh in the following Theses 10 That Infants are capable of sinning in their Head is as clear as they are capable of dying for the sin of the Head this the Apostle proveth from their death and from death reigneing over them 11. But sayes he Infants are under no Law But the Apostâ—e sayes the contrare viz. that there was both Sin and Law before Moses dayes because death reigned even over Infants and consequently that Infants were under sin and therefore also under a Law for where there is no law there is no transgressiâ—n But this was the Law given to Adam as head of Mankinde which Law all transgressed when Adam transgressed because the whole Nature transgressed it Adam representing all as their Natural Root and by vertue of the Covenant in which he stood And thus we see how this Man perverteth and inverteth the Words and Arguments and Scope and All of the Apostle 12 If death was inflicted on old Persons because of their actual sins wherefore was death inflicted upon Infants Sure the Apostle maketh no distinction of Deaths nor doth he speak of distinct causes of Death but only mentioneth an universal Cause of an universal Effect sin the cause and death the effect and therefore if the effect come upon infants the cause must also come upon them or the Apostle argueth very loosly and he must impute cruelty injustice to his Maker 13. This addition of his to the text viz. who were capable of sinning is the same that Castalio made saying these to wit who in regaird of age could have sinned And in this he was no lesse bold with the text then our Quaker is for as we have seen and the text is clear it is not all these only that die but even such as come not to that age and the Apostle alwayes speaks of death as the wages of sin And when he here sayeth of Infants that they sinned not after the similitude of Adam's transgression he clearly intimateth that they sinned some other way viz. in Adam which also the 19. verse manifestly proveth 20. He taketh notice Next of our argument from Psal. 51 5. behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me where the Psalmist is exaggerating his iniquity before the Lord as all true penitents will do traceth his sin to the very Spring and Fountaine as to him viz. that Original Corruption which he brought into the world with him and shewing that even while he was a forming and warming as the word importeth in the womb this corruption did adhere to him so that the very masse out of which he was framed was corrupt and what greater proof could we desire of the originaâ—ed part of this Original Sin than is here The Ancient Fathers made use of this passage for the same end as Vossius sheweth us Hist. Pelag. Pag. 144.145 And some Jewes such as Aben Ezra Sal. Iarchi expound it of innate Concupiscence Now what saith this Quaker to this He cannot see our Infâ—rence and why so It seemeth to me sayes he that this iniquity and sin is rathâ—r ascribed to the parents than to the Infants for he sayeth in sin did my mother conceive me not my mother conceived me sinning Ans. Is not this a quick observation and worthy of a Quaker But the misery is it quite crosseth Davids designe This man must think that it was a great argument of Davids Sorrow and Repentance to lay iniquity upon his Parents now in all appearance dead but I should look upon this as no argument of a true penitent heart What could his upbraiding of his Father and Mother after this manner contribute to the aggravating of his own sin And that this is David's designe I think this Quaker will not deny if he but look upon the place and read over the Psalm or the first part of it Is not David about the confessing of his owne sin Read the title of the Psalm the preeceeding verse and see Is he not seeking pardon and remission of his own sin Or shall we suppose that he is praying for remission to the dead all Confession of sin to God is in reference to Remission and if David speak here only of his Parents sin he is tacitely seeking Remission If he speak of his Parents sin in begetting and warming him in the womb it must be as including himself at least as shareing thereof and this will prove that David had sin upon him from his very conception And by his answere he would seem to make marriage duties unlawful contrare to 1 Cor. 7 2 3 4 5. Heb. 13 4. He addeth another answere thus Such an interpretation would contradict the Scriptures formerly cited while it maketh infants to he hurt by their immediat parents sin And there is no mention here of Adam Answ. I do not prove hence that David was guilty of his immediat Parents sins but that original contagion doth so cleave to every ordinary Infant unless we could suppose some singular thing in David without all ground that in his very warming in his Mothers womb he is corrupted and albeit David make no mention here of Adam the
upon what designe himself best knoweth Nor doth he speak any thing of Election that we might thereby understand his meaning better concerning Reprobation It is true Pag. 59. as we took notice in the proceeding chapter he gave us a little taste of his humore in giving a wipe without any true ground or real occasion at absolute Election and so we see that he is equally enraged against Absolute Election and Absolute Reprobation But what his owne true Opinion is he leaveth us to conjecture Some might think that he were of one opinion as to this with Pelagians Iesuites and Arminians who plead for Conditional decrees of Election and Reprobation and for satisfaction to their owne searching minde poreing into this matter The Iesuites do coine a Scientia Media through which as a necessary pair of spectacles they consider God looking a far to read what is written on the will of man placed in such and such circumstances that accordingly he may order his unchangeable decrees either to Elect this man who as he foreseeth through this prospect of Scientia Media will be a good and holy man and continue in faith and obedience to the end or to Reprobate that other man who as he espyeth by the same medium will prove a son of belial and will not beleeve nor repent If this man be of this opinion I am far mistaken if his Election and Reprobation howbeit he call it Conditional be not more fatally Inevitable than what we say for by this opinion the Lord Jehovah himself is under a Fatal necessity of Electing those that are elected and Reprobating such as are reprobated for according as he seeth the determination of mans will which he cannot alter matters standing in the supposed circumstances so must He passe his decrees But others may think that he rather imbraceth the Opinion of the Socinians and Arminians homologate as to several particulars with them who deny all Eternal Decrees whether of Election or Reprobation as concerning particular individual persons granting only one general decree which they call Predestination whereby the Lord decreed to Elect in time all that should be found in time to be Beleevers and Obedient and Consequently to Reprobate and reject the rest and this Election and Reprobation only in time they ascribe unto God because they rob Him of all Fore knowledge and they make it twofold one Infirme Conditional and Imperfect which may alter as men change their manners so that a Reprobat to day may be an Elect tomorrow and an Elect today a Reprobat the next day another Firme Fixed Peremptory and Absolute when the man hath finished his course and ended his dayes In all which the Arminians agree with them except in this one thing that the Arminians grant an eternal Election of Individual Persons upon the foresight of Faith and Obedience which the other grant not Hence the greatest of my difficulty will flow from my ignorance of this mans true principles for I shall not know how to vindicate truth which we maintaine so as to convince him and stop his mouth upon his owne grounds as otherwayes I should not doubt through the assistance of his Spirit and Grace whose cause I plead to do 5. As concerning this matter enough hath been said by the Orthodox against Pelagians Semipelagians Socinians and Arminians and this man confesseth he hath brought no new accusation against our doctrine but he hath only scraped together as it would seem what he could get out of the dunghill of Iesuites and Arminians And therefore we might dismiss him by referring him to such as have written copiously and very far above his reach on this subject even to some papists such as the Dominicans Alvares Estius Rispolis Cajetanus Sixtus Senensis and to others more ancient such as Aegidius Romanus Gregorius Ariminensiâ— and others cited by Estius yet lest he should boast we shalâ— view what he hath said without enlarging much upon the matter And as to our doctrine the Reader may satisfy himself with what is Succinctly Solidly Plainly and Satisfying set down in our Confession of faith cap. 3. sect 3 4. 7. and for clâ—aring of the whole matter he may read the whole Chapter and there finde much in little bounds For facilitating of our way in the fâ—llowing examination I shall only propose a few things here in the entry for understanding the truâ—h about Reprobation without speaking to Election particularly 6. And 1. No man can denâ— a Reprobation but he must withall deny an Election for Election being a choosing of some cannot but import a leaving of others And I suppose this Quaker will grant this unless he be of the opinion of Hilberus who asserted that all men were Elected in Christ to salvation whether they beleeved or not not only contrary to the native proper import of the word Election which is a choosing separating of some from others but to plaine Scripture Mat. 20 16. 24 24. Ioh. 10 26. 1 Cor. 1 26. Rom. 9 22 23. many other places 2. Seing then the Scripture is so full in proving of Election we must assert that there is also a Reprobation and beside the Scripture pointeth forth the matter to us Mal. 1 2. Rom. 9 13.22 1 Pet. 2 8. Iud ver 4. Mat. 25 41. Prov. 16 4. 3. When we speak of Reprobation as opposed to Election as comprehended under Predestination as a species or part we consider either the Act of God Reprobating or the thing Decreed Purposed by the act of Reprobation that is as the Schoolmen speak vel quoad reprobantis actum vel quoad reprobationis terminum When we consider the Act of God reprobating nothing in man can be any moving cause thereof nay it is impossible it should be so for as Aquinas 1. p. quaeâ—t 23. art 5. saith there can be no cause of the will of God a touching the act of willing and the reason is manifest because that act of God's will as all immanent acts of God are is Eternal now man all that is in man is of yesterday could not cause an eternal act yea that act of God's will is God himself unlesse we blasphemously say with Socinians that the decrees of God are accidents in God so destroy his Simplicity and therefore we can no more imagine a cause in man of the act of Reprobation than we can imagine that there is something in man which is a cause of God himself which were absurd blasphemy The will of God hath no cause no antecedent is dependant on limited determined by nothing in man or any creature The learned Doct. Twisse hath this argument further If saith he sin be the cause of Reprobation it is either so of its owne Nature or by the Ordinance of God Not the first as all will confess Not the second for then God should ordaine that upon the foresight of sin he would ordaine man to damnation thus an Eternal Ordination should
made up for destruction and that as the first is done that He might make known the riches of his glory so the last is done that He might shew his wrath and make his power known 10. Christ Mat. 11 25 26. referreth the Lords hiding of the Gospel-manifestations of life and salvation from some unto the good pleasure of God! and if this part of the execution of the decree of Reprobation be referred unto this Absolute Soveraignity good Pleasure of God as its first and only spring much more must the Decree it self be reduced to this only Fountain 11. The like we may observe from 1 Pet. 2.8 from Iud vers 4. from Revel 13 8 17 8. 12. We are told that the Lord added to the Church dayly such as should be saved Act. 2 47. and that as many as were ordained to eternal life believed Act. 13 48. where we see that the appointing some to be saved and ordaining them to eternal life is given as the prime ground and cause of their being added to the Church and Beleeving whence it followeth that the Lord did not adde others to the Church nor give them grace to Beleeve because he had not ordained and appointed them to life the consequence of the Negation is as manifest as the consequence of the Affirmation and is clearly intimated when the other is expressed 11. Thus the Scripture confirmeth our point we shall adde a few reasons as 1. No temporal thing such as is mans sin can be the cause of that which is Eternal as is God's act of Reprobation If it be said that the foresight of what is temporal may be the cause of an Eternal Decree I answere This cannot be for how is it imaginable That God's prescience should be the meritorious cause of his Decree can one eternal Act of God be the meritorious cause and of such a cause we speak here of another All the Eternal Acts of God are one and they are the same with himself how absurd is it then to imagine one to be the meritorious cause of another or the same act as terminated on one object to be the meritorious cause of it self as terminated upon another object If it be said that sin foreâ—een can be the cause of an Eternal act of Reprobation Answ. But sin can not be foreseen as a thing that shall exist without a previous decree concerning its existence by the permission of God and so sin must first be permitted or decreed to be by permission before any man can be Reprobated because of sin by this Objection and then when we suppose sin to be permitted by a decree I ask for what end is this decreed permission God decreeth nothing but for a certane end and what is His End in this is it that he may thereby be moved to Reprobat Then his intention of Reprobation is first for the intention of the End is before the Intention of the midss and how absurd and a theological is that to say that God intended an End and then he Intended Meanes to move him to intend that end Againe by this Assertion the decree of Permitting sin should be before the decree of Damning for sin and so we must imagine the same order in the decrees that we see in the things decreed while as how various soever the things decreed be the decrees themselvs are all one pure act in God who is actus purissimus simplicissimus and therefore sin foreseen can no more be the meritorious cause of the decree of Reprobating for sin than of the decree of Permitting sin And if we should imagine an order betwixt these two decrees of Permitting of sin and of Reprobating for sin it must be such an order as is betwixt the Intention of the End and of the Meanes and so the intention of Permitting sin being first should be of the End which is always first in intention and the intention of Reprobation being the last of these two should be of the Means and so we should be damned for sin that we might be Permitted to sin and that which is first in Intention as the End being last in Execution and that which is a Means being first it would follow that man should be first damned and then permitted to sin which is obviously false and absurd 2. if sin be the meritorious cause of Reprobation then it is so either by necessity of Nature or by the free Constitution of God But neither can be said as we saw above â— The decrees of God can have no more a cause than himself can have all the Acts of God's will being his Will and his Will being Himself we cannot imagine a cause in man of an act of his will more than of himself 4 we should reason proportionably of the decree of Election as we do of the decree of Reprobation as we saw the Apostle doing and so if sin foreseen be the cause of Reprobation grace foreseen must be the cause of Election against the whole Scripture and the Apostles expresse argueing Rom. 9. 5. That procureing cause of Reprobation God could have prevented or taken out of the way if he had pleased else we must imagine a stoical fate overpowering God himself If he might have taken it out of the way and did not can any reason hereof be given beside his owne good pleasure or his designe to manifest the glory of his justice in the just damnation of such and doth not this referre the decree of damning for sin ultimatly unto His good pleasure 6. what are those sinnes which are the procuring cause of Reprobation This man will not say that Original sin is the cause for he denieth it as we saw in the proceeding Chapter And what can that actual sin be and whatever be supposed it must be such as could be foreseen in no other otherwise the foresight thereof could not be the proper meritorious or moving cause why this man was Reprobated more then that man for what is to be foreseen in an Elect cannot be the meritorious cause why the other is Reprobated Againe whatever actual sin that be final Unbeleef or what you will it must either be such as God could have prevented or taken out of the way if he had pleased or not if the first be said then it is manifest that the decree of Reprobation can not ultimatly be resolved into sin as a procuring cause but into the good pleasure of God who would not take that sin out of the way nor prevent its being If this Last be said then God was under a fatal necessitie of decreeing and doing all which he decreed and did and could not hinder sin nor not create that man nor alter any one circumstance which did occasion that sin and thus God himself shall be bound by the fetters of a fatal Necessity yea and all this fatal Necessity shall have its rise from Man which were most absurd and blasphemous 7. if actual sinnes be the consequent of
the next time he must disput against the Scriptures of truth and not against us 18. â—â—e inveigeth next Pag 67. against that monstrous as he calleth it and twofold will which they he meaneth the orthodox feigne of God one by which he openly and manifestly declareth his sentence the other plaine contrary more secret obscure But to what purpose is this brought in here And what would he make of it He saith we seem to assume this distinction and hereby he seemeth to reject it But not to run out into a debate with him upon every light occasion I would only enquire if he acknowledgeth any Decrees of God at all If he do what are these Decrees else than acts of Godâ—s will If they be nothing else than we may say God willeth what he decreeth for sure we cannot say God nilleth or willeth not what he decreeth to be Againe I would ask whether the Commands and Law of God be signes of his will If they be as I suppose he will grant then I would ask if he thinketh that God Decreeth the same thing which He Commandeth and nothing else and so that God's Decree and Command are all one If he say that they are one than the decrees of God may be Resisted Opposed Contradicted Contraveened and have no effect for it is oft so with his Commands But all Divines will hisse at this If he say that they are not one where is then the Monstrosity or Absurdity of this saying He must also assume this distinction The truth is This man speaketh he knoweth not what The Scriptures oft give the name of will unto God's Purposes and Dâ—crees as Act. 21 14. Rom. 1 10. 1 Pet. 3 17. Rom. 9 15 18 19. Ephes. 1 5. Revel 17 17. Luk. 22 42. Mat. 26.42 So doth it often times give this title unto his Commands as is every where manifest And though these two the Purpose of God and the Will of Command do not alwayes agree as to the same event Yet there is no monstrosity here of a twofold contrary Will for the Purpose of God is not of the same nature with his Command His Purpose which Divines commonly call his Will in proper sense is purely concerning the Event and respectetâ— God as the first Cause Prime disposer of all Events in the world but his Command or Law toucheth not the Events of actions but only pointeth forth mans Duty and respecteth God as the supream Lawgiver prescribing the duty of his Subjects These both are cleared by that one Instance to adduce no moe of Abraham whom God commanded to offer up his Son and so made it Abrahams duty to â—et about this and to endeavour it But as to the event the Lord had decreed that Isaak should not be offered nor Abraham get leave to offer him up indeed where is this contrarietie then the man talks of 19. Next he tels us that it availeth nothing to say that man doth willingly and of his owne accord sin for this proclivity and propensity to sin according to us saith he is necessarily imposed upon him because God did decree it should be so Ans. Not to debate these questions with this man who seemeth not to understand the matter I shall only tell him that his Objection here is very neare of kin with that Rom. 9 19. Thou wilt say unto me why doth he yet finde fault for who hath resisted his will If this be not the very compend of his following words let any that read them judge It is the same saith he as if I should take an infant that cannot resist and cast him dâ—wne from an high place though his weighâ— cause him descend yet I am the cause of his death c. Now what saith the Apostle to this Nay O man take heed to this O Quaker who art thou that repliest or disputest against God c. Thus the proud Quaker forgeteth that he is a thing formed of God or he is so unreasonable as to debate the matter with God and say Why hâ—st thou formed me thus Can we think to satisfie this Quaker who will not be satisfied with this What sayes he to that word 1 Sam. 2 25. notwithstanding they hâ—rkened not unto the voice of their Father because the Lord would stay them will this man advocate the ill cause of these wicked sons of Eli and lay all the blame upon the Lord He must plead also for Pharaoh and say he did no wrong in refusing to let the people of Israel go for he could no otherwise do because the Lord had hardened his heart But it is little that this man should plead the cause of these wicked ones and of the King of Assyria the rode of God's anger and the staff in his hand Esai 10 5. yea and of all the wicked whom God hath made for the day of evil and that for himself Prov. 16 4. seing he taketh upon him to agent and plead the Devils cause against Iehovah because when God decreed that he should afflâ—ct Iob he was free of sin all the blame lay up on the Lord for Satan could do no other wise an inevitable necessity was put upon him by the decree of God according to this mans doctrine Is not the Devil much beholden to this Quaker for his good will to learne him how to speak in his owne defence against the Lord. But I am afrayed his reward shall not quite his cost We have told him already that the decree of Reprobation imposeth no necessity upon man to sin but this necessity cometh from mans natural corrupted state Yea Corvinus himself at knowledgeth that it was Arminius his doctrine that all men naturally are cast upon a necessity oâ— sinning See D. Twisse against Mr Mason Pag. 18. It is all one thing with this man whether a thing come to passe by the free will of the second cause or by Necessity of nature as the sun shineth if there be a decree past all the guilt must lye upon Iehovah and thus either God hath made no decrees at all touching the actions of free agents good or evil or all their actions must be acts of Necessity yea Pure and Absolute Necessity and so all contingency is taken away and all Freedom from second causes or men and angels must be Absolute and independent Agents over whom and whose actions God must passe no decree let every one judge whither this doctrine tendeth and what an exalter of Free will into the very throne of God this Quaker is 20 Next he saith our doctrine is injurious to God because it maketh him to delight in the death of the wicked and to will that many should die in their sinnes contrare to Ezech 33 11. 1 Tim. 2 3. 2 Pet. 3 9. Answ. 1 If he think to prove hence that God did not decree absolutly to suffer any to lye in sin and to punish them at length because of sin he must think from this effectually to prove that God did Absolutely Decree
Adversaries the Impetration might have been obtained and yet no Application made of the good things impetrated and obtained 3. If no Application was intended by the Father or by Christ then it must be said that both were uncertain as to what the Event should have been or at least Regardless and Unconcerned either of which to affirme were blasphemy 4. The very word Impetrate having the same force and import with Purchase Procure Obtaine Merite and the like doth say that such for whom this Impetration was made have a right upon the Impetration to the thing Acquired and Purchased And if they have a right thereto that Possession should follow 5. Yea the word importeth the actual conferring of the good to be the very end of the Purchaseing and Impetrating and so in this case the very Impetration is ground of Assurance of the Application considering who did impetrate and at whose hands and withall what was the ground of the Fathers sending of Christ and of Christs coming to impetrate even inconceiveably wonderful and great Love Nor doth the intervening of a condition required before the actual collation of some of the good things purchased hinder at all for all these Blessings some whereof are as a condition to others are the one good thing Impetrated and the very conditions are also Impetrated as we declared above and so this pointeth forth only the methode of the actual bestowing of these good things purchased 6. How absurd is it to say a thing is Impetrated or Obtained and yet may or may not be Bestowed may be Possessed or not Possessed Or to say that such a good thing is Obtained by price or petitioning and yet the same good tâ—ing may never be Bestowed or the Bestowing of it hangeth and dependeth upon an Uncertain Condition which may never be performed 7. How unreasonable is it that such should have right to the Merites that have no right to the thing Merited Doth not an interest in the Merites procureing any thing include an interest in the thing Merited When a ransome is payed for captives to the end they may be delivered have not these Captives a right to the deliverance upon the payment of that ransome 8. The Scriptures do so connect these two that it argueth contempt thereof to imagine such a separation as Rom. 4 25. Yea the one is assigned as a certain Effect and Consequent flowing from the Other as its Moral cause Esai 53 11. By his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many this Justification is the Application whence cometh it For he shall bear their iniquities there is the Impetration giâ—en as the ground hereof So further vers 5. he was wounded for our transgressions c. and what followeth upon this Impetration And by his stripes are we hâ—aled So Râ—m 5 vers 18. By the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men to justification So that the Application reacheth an all that is all who have interest in the righteousness whicâ— is the thing Impetrated see also Heb. 10 10. 9. If Christs Intercession be for the same persons for whom he Died tâ—en the Application is to the same for this Intercession of Christ is in order to tâ—e Application But that Christs Intercession is for the same persons for whom hâ— died we shall see hereafter 10. If all things be ensured to such for whom Christ died then certanely this Application cannot faâ—l but the former is true Rom. 8 32. He that spared not his owne Son but delivered him up for us all how shall he not mark this manner of expressâ—on which importeth the greatâ—st of absurdities to think otherwise with him also freely give us all things 11. And in that same place vers 33 34. Christs death is given as the certain ground of Justification and Salvation so that such as he died for shall certanely in due time and after the methode prescribed be Justified and Saved otherwayes there were no sure ground in the Apostles argueing for if all the ground of this certanty as to Application were from their Faith or fulfilling of the Condition the Apostle would have mentioned this as the maine ground and not have led them to a ground common to others who never should partake of the Application 12. This matter is abundantly confirmed from what we said above concerning Christs purchasing of Faith and dying for our sanctification and to bring us to God c. so that more needeth not be added hâ—re 31. 20. For further confirmation of this and because our Adversaries think to salve the forementioned separation of Impetration and Application by telling us that where good things are Absolutely purchased then Application must follow But not where good things are purchased only Conditionally as in our case we shall therefore shew how this will not hold nor advantage their cause for 1. If all be Redeemed Conditionally that condition whatever it be must in equity be revealed to all I know this Quaker will grant this and say that it is revealed to all persons come to age but how this is and what he understandeth hereby we shall afterward have occasion to enquire However others are put to sory shifts here 2. Either God and Christ knew who would performe this condition or not If not then they were not omniscient If they did know then sure this death was more particularly and designedly intended for them than for the rest and upon what account and to what end should Christ lay down his life a ransome for such as he knew certainly should never be the better thereof And why would the Father send him to die for such 3. This Condition is either in mans sole power without the help of the grace of God to performe or not If it be in mans power from what Scripture shall this Pelagianisme be confirmed How shall then the new Covenant of grace be distinguished in specie from the Covenant of Works made with Adam If tâ—is Condition be not in mans power but the grace of God must work it Then either God will work it in all or not If not why would God purchase good things to people upon a Condition which they could not performe and which he alone could work in them and resolved not to worke in them If he will worke it in all then all shall certainly be saved Againe if this Condition be the free gift of God then either God will give it Absolutely to all and so all shall certainly be saved or Absolutely to some and then none but they shall be saved and why should Christ die for the rest Or Conditionally to all And if so the doubt will recurre concerning that Condition which either must be Absolutely given and so we are where we were or Conditionally and so still the doubt recurreth 4. This condition is either purchased by Christ or it is not If not then we owe no thanks to Christ for it nor for what is obtained upon that condition more then
of the Messias And all these he shall certanely save And though his first coming was not to act the part of a judge to any of which he speaketh Ioh. 12 37. yet I trow his last coming will be in forme of a judge Mat. 24 30. 25 31 Luk. 9 26. 1 Thes. 4 16. Act. 17 31. 62. He citeth next 2 Pet 3 9. the Lord is long-suffering to us ward not willing that any should perish but that all should come unto repentance and tels us that it is like to Ezech. 33 ver 11. of which place we spoke in the preceding Chapter and then addeth That God's will taketh not effect the cause is from us which could not be if we had never been capable of salvation and if Christ had never died for us but had left us under a physical impossibility of salvation Answere 1 If these words be taken Universally what will this man do with those that outlive the day of their visitation as he speaketh and are hardâ—ned judicially of God and given up to a reprobate mind is the Lord willing that these should come unto Repentance if not what will he do with his Universality Againe what will he say to those whom God cutteth off in their younger yeers and of those He taketh away in the very act of sin as He did Nadab and Abihu the people of Sodom the Bethshemites Uzzah Zimri and Cosbi 2. If we be the Cause that God's will taketh not effect we must be stronger then God for this Will of God is not his Command but his will of Purpose And so He must be a weak God that can not effectuat what he willeth but can be hindered by weak man but the Scriptures speak other wayes of our God and tells us that he doth whatsoever he will and none can let or hinder him Dan. 4 35. Iob. 9 12. Esai 45 9. Psal 135 6. And that none hath resisted his will Rom. 9 20. 3. Free Will I see must be a very great and absolute Prince for upon it hang all the effects of God's will and Purpose and of the death of Christ so that if Free will be ill disposed none of God's gracious Purposes Promises or Decrees shall take effect and Christ for all his Death and Bloudshed shall not save one soul or see a seed and thus all the decrees of heaven are at Mans devotion and Christ must turne a petitioner and supplicat Lord Free will that He may see of the travail of his soul. O cursed Religion 4. But as to the passage in hand the matter is clear that Peter is not speaking of all and every man universally but of us that is of himself and these to whom he writeth and they are the same he wrote his first Epistle unto 2 Pet. 3 1. and them he stileth Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the father through sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Iesus Christ 1 Pet. 1 2. Who were begotten againe to a lively hope by the resurrâ—ction of Iesus Christ from the dead vers 3. who were keepâ— by the power of God through faith unto salvation vers 5. who were lovers of Christ and beleeving did rejoyce with joy unspeakable and full of glory vers 8. Such as by Christ did beleeve in God vers 20 21. and had purified their souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren and were born againe c. vers 22 23. See Chap. 2 4 5 7 9 10 25. 2 Pet. 1 1 3 4 3 1 17 18. Thus the impertinency of this man in citeing this passage is manifest 63. He asketh what meaneth all the vehement Invitations Expostulations and Complaints in Scripture if there be no possibility of salvation and supposeth that this is to make God the Author of a stage play And thus the man raâ—teth in his reavings at this rate and all to dethrone the most High and spoile Him of his Principality and Supream Dominion that base man may be set down in the chaire of State and have the keyes of heaven and hell at his girdle by this Argument the Quaker would not only make the death of Christ a common thing but would destroy all the Decrees of God all Predestination and Election all Purposes of preventing any with mercy and all Absolute Pâ—omises But the mans attempt is vaine God will be God whether he will or not 2. We assert no Simple Impossibility of salvation to any but Hypothetical If God would give grace to all all should be saved and if He will not give grace to all must we quarrell with the Almighty Notwithstanding of God's decrees every one that perisheth perisheth willingly and of his owne fâ—ee choise God's decrees destroy not mans Free will nor take away the liberty and contingency of second causes but rather establish it as may appear from Prov. 16 33. Ioh. 19 11. Act. 2 23. 4 27 28. Mat. 17 12. 3. These Exhortations Expostulations c. respect the Gospel as it relateth to Gods will of precept and is the word of reconciliation dispensed by men and so hold forth what is mans Duty as we cleared above which must not be confounded with God's Purposes nor set up to dethrone them our duty is our duty by vertue of a command whatever God's purposes be Though God had purposed that Isaack should not be killed by his Father yet the word of command made it Abraham's duty to goe and offer him up 4 These Invitations and Expostulations c. respect only those to whom the Gospel is preached and so whatever this man can make out of them they can prove no Universal Redemption for we hear of no such expostulations with such as live without the sound of the Gospel And there are moe without the Church than within it not only under the Law but even now under the Gospel 5. This man I hope will not deny that God might if he pleased give grace to such as he expostulateth with whereby they might certainly be wrought up to a compliance with the word of Command And because it seemeth not good in his eyes to do so shall his Dispensations and the Ministry of his Gospel be looked upon as a stage play and a comoedie O! who art thou O man that will thus bring God to thy barr and passe such a shameful sentence upon his proceedings 6 God useth these Expostulations c. as meanes to bring home his Owne And as for Others though we would think to advocat their cause and condemne the Lord they and all that will take their part shall be found speachless in the day of accounts And God shall be glorified in his holy Justice whether vaine Man will or not 64. He citeth in the last place 1 Iâ—h 2 1 2. where Christ is said to be a Propitiation for the sinnes of the world And then he insulteth over such as would have only beleevers understood here by the word
Gentiles and sheweth what persons they were and concludeth with the Jewes and then tels us Chap. 3 vers 9. that he had proved both Iewes and Gentiles that they are all under sin It is true he sayes the wrath of God is revealed from haven against all unrighteousness of men c. because that which may be known of God is manifest in them c. But what of this What is made known of God saith he is made known by the Gospel Ans. This is most false for the Law and Light of Nature with the works of Creation and Providence do make known much of God But this is not the Gospel of the grace of God whereby life and immortality is brought to light It is like indeed that this is all the Quakers Gospel Many things have we met with hitherto which confirmeth us in this Apprehension thisi expression here putteth it beyond all doubt Doth this Gospel manifest the righteousness of God from faith to faith Yes saith he that is it revealeth to the soul what is good just and equitable And as the soul receiveth and beleeveeth that divine righteousness it is more and more revealed from one measure to another Ans. What ignorant babling is this What effronted and bold playing with the word of God is this Is every thing that revealeth what is good just and equitable the Gospel Then the Law must be the Gospel Then Adam in innocency had the Gospel Then the dim light of nature is all the Quakers Gospel this is their Grace their Substantial thing their Light within their Seed Are they not then noble Divines And is their Religion any thing but heathenisme Is it not worse then Pelagianisme Socinianisme Arminianisme and Iesuitisme The following words cannot I confesse be well answered for they are nothing but a rabble of non-sense though fit lettuce for their lips And though he should say as some of them use to speak that I am in the witchcraft and cannot understand his meaning I must forbear noticeing of him and his tattles and see if any thing worth an answer followeth for though sayes he the outward creation declareth the power of God yet that which is known of God is revealed within by which inward revelation we are made fit to see and discerne the eternal power of the God head in the outward creation for if that inward revelation were not man could no more understand the invisible things of God by the visible and outward creation than a blinde man see colours c. Ans. 1. What is that Inward Revelation distinct from the Outward Revelation It is it may be the reception or actual intellection of what is outwardly revealed and so the Natural Faculties acting as such must be Evangelick Preachers and Inward Revealers with the Quakers 2. The text speaks of no such Inward Revelation distinct from what was had by the outward Creation For that which may be known of God was shewed unto them by the things which were made vers 19 20. 3. There is no more aptitude requisite to see and discerne God's eternal Power and God-head not the eternal power of the God-head as he speaketh in a natural way and Paul is not here speaking of a spiritual and saving way by the works of Creation than to have a natural faculty of Understanding and Reason freed of prejudices and contracted byasses and blindness for this matter is so deeply rooted in their mindes that will they nill they it cannot be thrust out 4. It seemeth by his simile that this Inward Revelation is the same to the actual understanding of these things that the eye of the body is to seeing and discerning of colours and so it is manifest that it can be nothing else but the inward faculty of the soul whereby such things are known and understood And so this Inward Faculty of the soul with the Light of Reason is the Quakers Preacher and Gospel Poor souls and what will this teach concerning the new Covenant and the way of salvation through a crucified Mediator Do the Quakers know no other Gospel then this whereof all the fruite was that it left the poor miserable heathen without excuse when they fell to their idolatrous courses O how are they to be pitied that under the clear manifestation of the Gospel do thus run back to the Heathens Theology that they may be made much more inexcusable then ever the Heathens were Do they glory so much in Paganisme 37. He tels us moreover that the Apostle saith first that that which is known of God or the knowledge of God is manifest in them and next that in and by that manifestation granted inwardly and received they were able to read and understand the power of God in visible things Answ. 1. By what authority maketh he 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the knowledge of God one the same seing this is more comprehensive and of a larger latitude 2. I do not see the second thing in the Apostles words but I want the Quakers spectacles Then he very learnedly moveth an Objection thus if any should say That the external creation of it self without any inward supernatural and saving grace or seed did declare to a natural man that God is And will he deny this He must then contradict the Apostle But what answereth he What good I pray would that knowledge do if it did not also communicat to me what was the will of God and how I should do that that is acceptable to him Ans. And what would this answere say Either the Inward Revelation which the heathens had that I may speak in his language did also reveal what was the will of God c. Or not if not to what purpose is all this said If it did then the Apostle is quite out and destroyeth hereby his owne cause But I shall help the Quaker with a distinction That same Inward Revelation as he calleth it could and did reveal to the Heathens part of the will of God concerning duties legible by the Law of nature and written upon the creation of God but could reveal nothing of the mysteries of the Gospel because these did depend upon pure Revelation there being no lineaments thereof written upon the Creation nor no vestige thereof impressed in the heart of man Hence though the Heathens knew or might have known to have put a difference betwixt somethings good and evil yet they could never understand the Revelation of Iesus Christ in the Gospel All this cleareth further that the Quâ—kers know no otheâ— Gospel but what the Heathens by the Light of Nature did understand He citeth Pag. 104. Micah 6 8. But most impertinently For the Lord gave not that revelation of his will to the Heathens which he did to the Iewes Psal. 147 19 20. Then he citeth Pauls Words Rom. 1. The wrath of God is revealed against them who detained the truth of God in unrighteousness And what then Could not the Heathens oppresse make a
the Iesuites or Molinists and Arminians with whom we may joine as to this the Lutherans that upon which dependeth the efficacy of grace and it self is not the proper Effect of grace because they will not grant that God whatever way he work upon the will doth by his Preventing and Antecedent grace produce and infallibly effectuate this Non-resistance or Consent or that he doth more by this Grace to produce and effectuate this non-resisting in him that yeeldeth than in him that yeeldeth not 8. Though the man can make no progress out of his natural state until grace lay hold upon him as sufficient grace in the judgment of Quakers and Arminians layeth hold on all he can and may resist and all that grace of God can cause no progress till the man of his owne Free accord and good will yeeld and lay aside his resistance And this yeelding or laying aside of the resisting humore is not caused by grace because the same measure yea a greater measure of the same grace could not cause it in another who would continue in his unwillingness and resistance 9. Though it be possible for man in that case to suffer and not resist because it is possible with Quakers Iesuites and Arminians that Lord Free will shall be good natured and well disposed yet all the grace of God cannot make it certain and infallible for Grace must not enter within the Wills Iurisdiction but stand cap in hand without doors Lord Free will must not be encroached upon 10. One thing more I would desire to know of this Quaker what he meaneth properly by this Sufficient grace Hitherto he hath given us big words but yet upon the mater nothing but the meer Light of Nature or some common gifts and favoures wherein he is worse then some Arminians Pelagians and Iesuites who will grant the necessity of the outward preaching and dispensation of the Gospel which this our Quaker plainely slighteth and undervalueth But among theâ— all where is that grace of God that effectually draweth teacheth and causeth the soul to come and consent where is that heart of flesh c. Ier. 31 33 34. 32 39 40. Ezech. 11 19 20. 36 26 27. Ioh. 6 44 45. Phil. 2 13. Ephes. 1 18 19. 2 Thes. 1 11. 2 Pet. 1 3. Psal. 119 36. 1 King 8 vers 37. â— Thes. 5 23. 1 Cor. 3 5 6. 2 Tim. 2 25. Col. 1 12.13 It seemeth all our prayers must be made to Lord Free will for that is the supreme Master of all if the doctrine of our Quakers and their Masters the Iesuites and Arminians be true 6. Next the saith That though our nature be corrupt and polluted and prone to all evil yet grace can work upon it as fire can make yron soft But can grace change the will with him Can grace work upon it immediatly and cause it bow willingly and consent Why doth he not say this No Arminian Pelagian Socinian nor Iesuite will say that grace cannot work upon nature He addeth as yron removed from the fire returneth to its old hardness so the heart of man when it resisteth or recedeth from grace returneth to its old condition And will not Arminiaâ—s say the same Is not this manifest pleading for the Apostasie of the saints It seemeth then grace can make some change upon nature but cannot alter it as fire though it can make yron warm and soft yet it cannot change the yron so for all that grace can do corrupt nature shall remaine corrupt nature still though a little softened and mollified is this all that grace doth Where is then the new heart and where is the heart of flesh that grace worketh He saith the â—eart of man returneth to its old condition when it resisteth But doth not grace take away this resistance It would seem then that at the first the heart resisteth not and how can this be seing the heart naturally is prone to all evil yea is enmity against God and is not subject to the Law of God neither indeed can be 7. He adduceth Pag. 91. some similitudes which may serve indeed to illustrate what is already confirmed but are of no use to confirme any thing that is in question Yet let us see what the mater is He compareth a man in his natural state to one that is very sick Which already discovereth the mans vanity and dâ—clarth his simile to be a dissimile for man in his natural state should be compared rather to one that is dead for the Scripture doth so point him out Ioh. 6 53 57 and 5 21 24 25. Ephes 2 1 5. and so is he indeed What would he say more He compareth God to a Physitian that putteth the Physick in the sick mans mouth and layeth him on his bed and if the sick man will but be passive the physick will work but if he be unwilling and rise up eat what he should not eat it cannot work because he hindereth its operation and so though the physick of its own nature be wholesome tend to health yet it proveth deadly to that man he is the cause of his owne death yet if he had been quiet passive the physick had wrought he could not have said that he healed himself but that the physick did it Ans. 1. Physick cannot work upon a dead man but must have some strength of Natuâ—e concurring and cooperating How agreeth this simile with his owne doctrine He told us before that in the first progress man doth not co-operat and yet here nature must co-operate or nothing will be done 2. Bodily physick worketh only upon the body and humors but reacheth not the will of the man but the soul humors lye most in the will and grace that would cure these must work upon the will for till the will be cured the man is never cured So that 3. This simile doth more sufficiently demonstrate him to be a Pelagian Arminian and Iesuite than any thing he hath yet said for let the physician give what physick he will the patients will is wholly at liberty so let God work what he will and employ all his grace the mans will is at freedome and so at freedome that all that God can do shall not availe the man will if he be ill disposed hinder the physick to work as the patient may do in the similitude 4. Though the man cannot properly say that he purged away his own humors because the physick did that yet he was truely the concurring cause of his owne health and may thank himself therefore For had he been so ill disposed as his neighbour all the physick should not have saved his life more than it saved his neighbours who hindered its operation 5. Have we not here enough to Demonstrate to us how devoted the Quakers are unto Lord Free will And how according to them Christ and the grace of God must be beholden to Free will for every soul that is saved and must come
pray and beseech Free will to be good and quiet that grace may work and Christ may not misse his errand O desperat doctrine O proud man Our Salvation then is not to be referred unto the Power of God contrare to what Christ saith Mat. 19 26. 8. His next simile is of persons lying in a deep cave where their senses are stupified so as they are scarce sensible of their own misery But neither doth this simile come home for men anâ— women naturally are dead and though they cannot but feel something of their misery Yet are utter strangers to the rise thereof and to the greatest and most special part of their misery I do not think saith he that any of them by labouring to deliver themselves can move God to compassionate their case send help as seing them willing to be saved and doing all they can as say the Pelagians Socinians and Semipelagians nor do I imagine that the deliverer setteth a ladder to the bottome of the cave saying if any will be delivered let him use his owne strength and come up upon the ladder as say the Iesuites and Arminians Ans. The man would faine wash his face that he might appear to be neither Pelagian nor Semipelagian nor Socinian nor Arminian nor Iesuite but he hath appeared already so deeply dyed in their errours that his labour is in vaine for when he hath said so much of a Sufficient Grace common to all say what he will he shall never rid himself of that foul company and when all the explication or discovery of the nature of that Sufficient Grace issueth in what is meerly Natural as we have seen he is but beating the aire in labouring thus to cheate his Reader And I would faine know what he will do with his former doctrine concerning the Talents And what doth his Light within his Christ and all serve for now I pray him the next time he writeth to reconcile these But how proposeth he the case I suppose saith he the Redeemer cometh at certain times and manifestly declareth unto them what and how great their misery is if they remaine in that place yea and impresseth upon them a certain sense of their misery and not only so but apprehendeth them draweth them out and plucketh them up that he may bring them out of their misery and if they resist not they will be saved Ans. 1. The Lord 's coming at certain times to convince all and every man of his misery in reference to his salvation and delivery is but a dream for Paul tels the people of Athens Act. 17 30. that God winked at the times of ignorance but now commandeth all men every where to repent 2. It is also a groundless imagination to think that God impresseth upon every man breathing a sense of his misery 3. If God draw them up and pluck them out of that pit they must be out of it whether they resist or not Or doth he imagine that God by the Sufficient Grace which he bestoweth plucketh them only halfe up and when they begin to resist and spurn letteth them fall againe that they may perish in the pit But how or what way doth God thus pluck all men half out of the pit I wish he would explaine this and then we should see whether his hands be clean of Pelagianisme c. or not 4. Though he will not say that he is a Pelagian or Semipelagian or Socinian or Arminian or Iesuite yet he must put the crown of Salvation on Free wills head and sing praises to Free will that was so good and kinde as not to spurn and resist But whence came this Non resistance Not from the arme of him that was pulling them up but from their owne innate kinde and gentle disposition he must say Then glory and thanks must be given to this kinde disposition that the man is saved outright and brought fully out of the pit for what grace did was but halfe work and a common thing that others who are lying in the pit met with as well as he And yet this is the man that would make us beleeve that he is neither Pelagian nor Semipelagian not Arminian c. but his speach bewrayeth him to be that and worse For wherein doth his doctrine differ from all the Papists who are this day against the Iansenists upon this account that these assert Christ's grace to be adjutorium quo that is such help as maketh the man to will and so effectuateth the actual will and consent 9. He obviateth and Objection Pag. 92. It might be objected that grace should hereby be frustrated And indeed grace is at mans devotion by his opinion for if man will not grace shall never save a soul for grace cannot change the Will nor come near to its Territory And man being alwayes left at his natural corrupt liberty and his corrupt nature being enmity to God and all the wayes of God how is it imaginable that any one soul can be saved Thus the great exalters of Universal Grace give us in end no grace at all but such as cannot save What saith he to this He saith grace is not frustate because God gets his glory But had not God gotten glory though this grace that makes Salvation with this Quaker possible had never been heard of Had not God gotten the glory of his justice though never one of Adams sons had been saved He told us before Pag. 90. that grace of its own nature will save all and worketh with every one that it may save them And as to this which is its native and proper designe and end it can be frustrated by mans refractariness and so grace attaineth nothing of its proper end but as man will What he speaketh of the Suns hardning clay and softening wax is but a further confirmation of what we say of this Quaker to wit that as the Sun can never soften clay so with this Quaker all the grace in heaven shall never soften a mans heart till man of himself without the grace of God lay aside his hardened disposition and take on a new Nature and become wax that the Sun of grace may melt him Was ever Pelagius more a Pelagian or Arminius more an Arminian than is this man Grace with him is but a general common thing concurring with a general Influence as is the influence of the sun causing the dunghill stinck and the flowr to smell well and as the nature of the flowr is the immediat cause of the good smell so mans good nature and disposition is the immediat particular and proper cause of all the good that is done All which he confirmeth in the close of that paragraph saying so the Sun of righteousness shineth upon every one dureing the time of his visitation that they may bring forth good fruit and send forth a good smell And by the rayes hereof their hearts can be mollified and warmed but if they suffer that day to passe the same sun doth
more harden them as clay c. But the Sun can never make a thistle bring forth grapes or a carcasse to smell as a rose so neither can the Sun of righteousness by this Man's opinion cause a dead man live or a rotten withered branch bring forth fruit And the change of the corrupt nature of man is not from the Sun of righteousness but from himself and it lyeth at the mans own door and is in his option whether he will bring forth fruite or not let the sun shine as it will And further let him explaine to me How grace can properly harden a man I know that by accident of mans corruption abusing it the man may thereby grow worse but this is not the proper work of grace as the heat of the sun hardeneth the clay as natively and properly as it causeth the flower to smell fragrantly However we see clearly what are this mans thoughts of grace and let any tell me if ever a Pelagian Semipelagian Socinian Arminian or Iesuite spoke more to the undervalueing and disparagment of the grace of God 10. Finally he tels us § 18. that he acknowledgeth that God doth operat in some in a certain special manner in whom grace so far prevaileth that salvation necessarily followeth and God suffereth them not to resist This I confess is the expression that seemeth most orthodox of any he hath yet had in this matter and yet Arminians will say the same But is it not thus with all whom God effectually Draweth and Converteth Or are there any really converted and saved without this special operation of grace If it be not thus with all then all are not alike beholden to God and his free grace for Conversion and out of what Scripture can we learne this If it be thus with all and it must be so with all who are truely converted why doth he trouble us with his Sufficient Grace which alone without this special manner of operation never brought a soul to heaven Was ever or will ever a man that is born in sin be converted till grace take away that resistence which is in him naturally And did ever that sufficient grace alone do it Yet saith he in that none did want that measure of grace whereby they might be saved they are made justly inexcusable and they that perish while they remember the dayes of Visitation wherein God by his Spirit and light did strive with them are forced to câ—nfesse that tâ—ere was a time wherein the door of mercy stood open and that they are justly condemned Ans. 1. We see no ground for such a day of Visitation as he dreameth of granted to all and every son of Adam as appeareth from what was said above upon that hâ—ad 2. That no man shall have anâ— just ground of pleading his excuse before God when condemned we nothing doubt though we feigne no devices of our owne to this end 3. what sense or remembrance of a day of Visitation wherein mercies door stood open Heathens and such as never heard of Christ can have we are yet to learne 4. Nor do we understand how that grace can absolutely be called Sufficient which removeth not the greatest of impediments that is to say Mans Reluctancy But Quakers their brethren the Arminians Iesuites can imagine strange things 11. We come now to see what way he proveth the necessity of this light unto salvation or how such as hear the Gospel are saved by the operations of this Light Pag 107. c. He citeth that Ioh. 3 3. except a man be born againe or from above he cannot see the Kingdom of God And what can this evince That the outward preaching of the Gospel alone the literal knowledge of Christ historical faith in him doth or can save a soul we never said though he falsly insinuateth so much in the following words Yet we see here the mans wicked designe to wit to cry up this grace to the end he may destroy all the Ordinances of Christ which he hath appointed as meanes whereby he is pleased to bring about this effect We never said that the external preaching of the Gospel alone could save any yet we know that by the foolishness of preaching the Lord saveth such as beleeve 1 Cor. 1 21. And Paul tels us that he begote the Corinthians through the Gospel 1 Cor. 4 15. And he begote Philem. 10. Onesimus in his bonds The word becoming ingraffed is able to save souls Iam. 1 21. But the maine thing here to be noticed is that this can make nothing for his point we grant that a man must be regenerated by the Grace and Spirit of God but we deny that any thing call it as he will that is common to all the Heathen is the Seed or Cause of this new birth It is wholly from above and of the Spirit who is not given to all persons only such as were foreknown are predestinate to be conforme to the image of Christ and they who are thus predestinated are effectually called Rom. 8 29 30. Se also Ephes. 1 4 5. It is they only who are given of the Father to Christ who will come to him Ioh. 6 37. 17 19 20 For they only partake of that which is obtained by Regeneration viz. the New Creature Gal. 6 15. the New Man Ephes 4 24. the Image of God Col. 3 10. the Divine Nature 2 Pet 1 4. the Spirit Gal 5 17. the Inner man Rom 7 2â— the Law of the minde vers 24. When he hath proven that this Common and Sufficient Grace is able to effectuate this new birth then he shall speak something to the purpose But neither he nor his Masters the Pelagians Iesuites nor Arminians shall ever be able to do this 12. What he saith of the necessity of this New birth and its preferableness to any external knowledge of Christ from 2 Cor. 5 16 17. we shall not oppose only we must say that it is wilde and unreasonable from that place to inferre that the knowledge of Christ is but like the Rudiments that children use which must be laid aside when they attaine to more perfection seing the knowledge of Christ is our life Ioh. 17 3. and he who knoweth him knoweth the Father Ioh. 10 â—8 14 9 10 11 17 21. His granting that every similitude halteth doth not much alleviate the mater for he addeth that such as do not advance above the outward knowledge of Christ shall never inherite the kingdom of heaven Unless by the outward knowledge of Christ he understand a meer literal superficial book-knowledge which inded will nor availe unto salvation and yet the want of which maketh the case of Heathens and such as are without the Church desperate 13. He tels us afterward Pag. 108. that the new creation whereof the Apostle speaketh 2 Cor. 5 16 17. proceedeth from the operation of this Light and Grace And this is the thing which he should prove for we deny it of the
the righteousness of Christ given and imputed to us because insert in Christ and we put him on The question is unto which of these we ought to lean and account our selves justified before God And I saith he wholly think that it is piously and christianly said that we ought tâ— leane to I say lean to as to a firme thing which may uphold us the righteousness of Christ gifted to us and not to grace and holiness inherent So also Pighius de fide Iustificatione may shame this Quaker 15. In the fourth place Pag. 128. For clearing of his meaning he tels us that by this Iustification they do not understand simply good works nay not as done by the holy Spirit But did ever man in his wits understand it so The question is whether good works be the formal cause or the formal objective reason of Justification And this he granted above and asserted with the worst of Papists But he saith with protestants that these are rather the effects of Iustification then the cause This is better said but way then said he lately that by the Second Redemption whereby we are Purified Liberated and Redeemed from tâ—e power of corruption we become justified formally or that that second Redemption was the formal cause of our justification And what will he now have to be the formal cause of our justification Christ formed within us this inward birth produceing righteousness and holiness in us with which the Father is well pleased Ans. But this is only an inward Principle of grace and the sanctification which is defined in the Larger Catechisme as we saw above and by this himself afterward tels us we are parkers of the divine nature and this as Contarenus said with truth belongeth to an Inherent Righteousness and so still he holds with the Tridentine Papists who will have us justified by a Righteousness inherent in us and that in opposition to a Righteousness imputed And when afterward he saith that Bellarmine and others disput against this and other Papists understood it not he should have named the place 2. That God is well pleased with this will say nothing for he is well pleased also with good works that flow from this Principle betwixt which two this Quaker would distinguish in this question He addeth This is to possess whole Christ who is the Lord our righteousness Ier 23 6. and to put on Christ. Ans. Yet this is not to put on the righteousness of Christ in Justification and to be cloathed with his Righteousness in appearing before Justice This is not to make the Lord our righteousness as Ier. 23 6. nor to say with Paul Phil 3 9. and be found in him not having minâ— own righteousness which is of the law but that which is through the faith of Christ the righteousness which is of God by faith Further he sayes hereby we are made one with him as branches into the vine and we have right to all things which he did and suffered for us so that his obedience righteousness and death is ours Ans. All this is true by faith uniteing us to Christ. But we are not so properly by Christ formed within us for this is a consequent of and in nature though not in time posteriour to our union to Christ by Faith which is brought about in effectual calling and as a consequent of this union followeth also Justification the formal objective reason of which is not either this union or begun sanâ—tification but the Righteousness of Christ or his Obedience and Suffering made over and imputed to the believer by God Seing in these matters he seemeth to be an utter stranger I would advise him to read our Larger Catechisme better if he think not himself too far advanced to turne a catechumene againe What followeth Pag. 128. is but a specimen of the Quakers Spirit in abusing of Scripture with their sensless allegorick glosses and hath no Interest in this queston and therefore I have nothing to do with it 16. He tels us next that though we be not justified for good works yet we are justified in them and they are necessary as causa sine qua non Ans. That good works are called for from Justified persons we acknowledge but what Interest they have in putting us into a state of Justification we see not His giving them an interest of a causa sine qua non contradicteth what he said before for he would have us Justified by Christ formed within and this is antecedent to good works as the tree is unto the fruit And he also said in the preceeding Pag that good works follow Justification as the effects thereof and how then they can come in as a causa sine qua non he must help us by his next to understand and cleare to us how the Effect can be the causa sine qua non of the Cause But this man must have liberty to contradict himself He must also explaine to us what that is to be justified in good works That a man may be in a justified state while doâ—ng good works we understand very well but how otherwayes he can be justified in good works I see not unlesse by Justification he mean not a justification as to state but a justification as to particular actions which is impertinent 17. In the last place he saith that if he and his fraternity held the same opinion about good works that Protestants hold they would easily confess that they were not only not necâ—ssary but that they were noxious Though Protestants assert the necessity of good works in justified persons come to age they assert notwithstanding their noxiousness in Justification that is if they be considered as any part of that Righteousness upon consideration whereof the person is declared just Justified before God or as any part of the formal Objective reason of Justification or as others speak as any part of the formal cause of Justification But what is his ground for they affirme saith he that the best works of saints are corrupted and defiled It is true we say indeed that our best works are not perfect but have ad mixture of dross and of much imperfection but that is not all the cause why we deny such an interest to works in Justification as Papists and he plead for but this Interest we deny to works mainly because it would spoile Christ of the glory of our Justification and of being our Righteousness that is due to him and give man ground of boasting which by Gospel Justification is wholly excluded But do not Quakers say the same of good works we judge saith he the best works done by man intending conformity unto the Law in his owne strength natural power and proper will to be such that is polluted But protestants do not account these properly good works but only materially such as not flowing from a principle of grace and from the Spirit of sanctification What doth he say of these These are pure and
Renovation is but upon the minde and this Formation of Christ is but a Revelation in the minde But where is the work of grace upon the will This would say that the Papists opinion is more tolerable then this for they include graces seated in the will 5. Where doth the Scripture speak of Justification after this manner We are oft said to be justified by faith but never are we said to be justified by such a Revelation 6. Therefore I may as confidently affirme that this his sensation is but a sensible delusion of Satan the grand enemy of the Grace of God and of the Gospel 34. Yet he goeth about to prove this and tels us first that this methode of salvation is set down by Paul Rom. 5 10. for saith he The Apostle doth signify that reconciliation is made by the death of Christ. Ans. This is true of that Reconciliation which is actual and is had by faith in the death of Christ but not of that Reconciliation which he imagineth whereby to wit God is prone to Receive and Redeem man What next He affirmeth Iustification that is Salvation to be in Christs life Ans. And what ground is there for this Interpretation seing the sense is obvious to wit that seing by the propitiatory death of Christ beleevers laying hold upon him by faith are brought into a state of Peace and Reconciliation with God they need not fear but they shall be brought thorow all difficulties and steps to the enjoyment of life eternal and full salvation Christ being now alive to bestow all that he hath purchased What more He saith That this life of Christ is something inward and spiritual in the heart whereby he is renewed and brought out of death where naturally he lay and raised up and revived unto God the same Apostle sheweth Ephes. 2 5. Ans. This is nothing but a palpable perversion of the words of the Apostle for the life can no more be understood here of some inward thing wrought in man than Christ's death can be so interpreted And if he had so expounded the words he had spoke more like himself above as also more like other Quakers who talk of Christs sufferings and death c. as all done within man 2. That the Apostle Ephes. 2 5. is speaking of beleevers being by grace quickened together with Christ and risen together with him c. is true But what saith this for the corrupt glosse of Rom. 5 10. where the life of Christ is only spoken of and that as it by which beleevers may be assured of their salvation 3. What is there in all this for Justification by the Revelation of Christ within reforming the minde c Hath the man forgote his Conclusion already Ay but sayes he the Apostle mentioneth a Revelation of this inward life 2 Cor. 4 10 11. and this inward life is that whereby he said we were justified Ans. The life of Christ is indeed said by Paul 2. Cor. 4 10 11. to be made manifest in and by its effects supporting carrying the persecuted Apostles through so many miseries and deaths But who except a Quaker could say that the Apostle sayes we are justified by this life And what vestige is there of this in the Apostles words 35. In the next place he citeth Tit. 3 5. And hence thus argueth we are justified by that by which we are saved Ans. Yes by the grace of God we are freely justified and saved and that without works of righteousness which we have done Here the Apostle sayes he moreover doth manifestly ascribe the immediat cause of Iustification unto the inward work of regeneration that is to Christ revealed in the soul by which we are formally accepted of God Ans. 1. What immediat cause is this That a soul must be wrought up to faith in Christ before it can be justified we grant and that this faith must be wrought by the operation of the Spirit is also true But that this faith or any other work of the Spirit in the soul is the Formal Objective Cause of Justification the Apostle saith neither here nor elsewhere 2. To say that we are formally accepted of God that is as fully righteous with a righteousness answering the Law in all points and satisfying justice for bâ—gones as he must meane or he speaketh not to the point by this work of Regeneration is but a jejune begging of what is yet in question sure there is no word of this here 36. In the third place he citeth 2 Cor. 13 5. And saith That it appeareth here how earnestly the Apostle would that they should know Christ in them Ans. The Apostle to the end that the Corinthians who at the instigation of false Teachers were beginning to have undervalueing thoughts of him might be convinced that he was an Apostle of Christ and so continue in esteeming of him as such doth here presse them to goe in to their owne hearts and see if there were any fruits and effects of Christ's living among them by his Spirit through his ministrie that if not they might not account themselves Christians but persons rejected And what would this say It appeareth hence 2. sayes he that the cause of reprobation or of non-justification was the want of the inhabitation of Christ revealed And by the rule of contraries where Christ is inwardly known and revealed there the persons are approven and justified And nothing can be more cleare Ans. 1. By what rule law or authority doth he make Reprobation and No-Jusâ—ification equipollent terms This must be licentiâ Quakerorum whereby they have a privilege contrare to Scripture and all Reason to coine words phrases and opinions in divinity at their pleasure 2. The want of the effects and evidences of Christ dwellâ—ng in them by his Spirit is not here given as the cause of their being in an evil state reâ—ected and disapproved of God but as a mark and evidence And marks and evidences are not alwayes taken from the Immediat Nearest and Formal cause 3. It is very true that by the rule of contraries where Christ is indeed revealed and working in the soul that soul is justified but it is most false that therefore Christ revealed in the soul is the Formal Cause or to speak more properly the Formal Objective Reason of Justification for himself said above that good works were properly the effects and fruits of â—ustification and yet he knoweth the fruits and effects may be an evidence of the cause in being 4. And so there is nothing more plaine and evident then that this citation is impertinent and his argueing therefrom a non sequitur and that he is still the old man a Quaker-disputant 37. As a parallel place he citeth Pag. 142 Gal. 4 19. And saith this Christ is the inward hope of glory Col. 1 27 28. And what is the hope of Glory must be that to which we nextly and immediatly lean unto in Iustification Answ. And how is this proven We must beleeve it
indeed we learne that it is the Spirit that must helpe and teach us how and for what to pray and must quicken those graces in us which are requisite unto the right performance of this duty but how it can prove his method by Introversion and there waiting for the drawings and impulses of the Spirit which we must feel before we set about the duty I see not Yea I think the text clearly enough importeth the contrary to wit that when the honest believer out of conscience to the command with the little strength and ability he hath is aimeing at the duty and setting about it the Spirit cometh with seasonable help and helpeth his infirmities and maketh intercession for him with groanes that cannot be uttered and this the greek word importeth to wit the Spirit 's lifting at the load lest the beleever should be crushed under it see Calvin and Beza on the place But he frameth an argument thus Pag. 256. If man knoweth not how he should pray nor can he pray without the help of the Spirit then he prayeth in vaine without him But the former is true Therefore Ans. What will this conclusion do for his purpose It cometh not neare to what he should prove by many stages Will he hence inferre Therefore man should not pray until he feel the Impulses Motions Influences and Drawings of the Spirit By the like consequence one might prove from Psal. 127 1 2. That no man should put to his hand to build and no man should set a watch upon the wales of a besieged city and no man should laboure in his ordinary calling till he finde the influenceing motions and concurrence of the Spirit pouseing him forward and driveing him to the work But how ridiculous this is every one knoweth To tell a dream is sufficient to refute it 10. He citeth next Ephes. 6 18. and Iud vers 20. And inferreth that that is as much as if he had said ye must never pray without watching unto it Ans. Because we are commanded to love the Lord withall our heart soul and minde c. will he say that that is as much as if it were said ye must never love the Lord except it be with all your heart c So he may say we should never pray except we pray with all prayer and we should never watch unto prayer except we watch with all perseverance and supplication for all saints for these things are in the text too But againe though we should never pray without the Spirit will it hence follow that we should never set about the duty till first we feel the Leadings Driveings Motions and Inspirations of the Spirit And then lastly Though we should never pray without watching unto it how will it follow that we should never pray without an Introversion These things hang together like ropes of sand What sayes he to the place of Iude Iude sayes he demonstrateth that prayers in the holy Ghost are those whereby the Saints are built up in their most holy faith And what then Are no prayers meanes to build up saints in their most holy faith but such as are gone about after we have Introverted and felt the Influence Inspirations Leadings and Drawings of the holy Ghost This is like the rest of the Quakers consequences loose and sandy 11. He citeth 1 Cor. 12 3. No man can say that Iesus is the Lord but by the holy Ghost And thence inferreth far less can he be called upon acceptably without him And what is this to the pointe Say we that any can pray acceptably without the Spirit It is one thing to pray without the gracious and ordinary influences of the Spirit helping our infirmities and another thing to pray with the feelings of the Impulses Motions Leadings Pouseings and Driveings of the Spirit When will he conclude this last which is the thing he should conclude He addeth Paul 1 Cor. 14 t 15. said he would pray in the Spirit And so should we all do and with understanding too But this is an evident Testimony saith he that he did not use to Pray without the Spirit Answ. Though the consequence be not good yet I think the consequent is true But where sayes the Apostle that except he felt the Motions and Drawings Inspirations of the Spirit that after he had Introverted he would not pray And when he writteth to the Churches and pressâ—th them to pray for him 1 Thes 5 vers 25. 2 Thes. 3 1. Heb. 13 18. 2 Cor. 1 11 Phil. 1 19. Rom. 15 30. Philem. 22. Col 4 3. Where addeth he that clause If ye feel after an Introversion the Inspirations Motions Influences and powerfully inflowing might and liberty so that they might not attempt it otherwayes Let him cleare this and win the cause 12. He addeth All prayers without the Spirit are abomination Prov. 28 vers 9. Answ. Though that be true of the wicked yet I durst not say they were not called to pray seing it is a command of Natures Law See Esai 55 6. Ps. 107 19 28. Exod 22 23 Iob 8 5. 36 13. Ier. 36 7. 42 9. Not to mention the word of Peter to Simon Magus of which afterward I know the plowing of the wicked is sin Prov. 21 4. Must therefore say the wicked man must never plow The sacrifice of the wicked was also an abomination Prov. 15 v. 8. 21 27. was it therefore a good consequence under the Law that such persons should have brought no sacrifices Knoweth he not that the substance of an act may be good and yet for want of several things not be accepted at the hands of the wicked We know that in many things we offend all but he dreameth of perfection He addeth 1 Ioh. 5 14. and thence inferreth but if they seek not according to his will they have no cause to be confident that he will heare them Which is very true when they seek any thing that is not consonant to his revealed will But what then His adversaries sayes he grant that prayers without the Spirit are not according to the will of God We grant indeed that as to the manner such prayers are not according to the command but Iohn is not speaking of the manner of prayer but of the thing prayed for What will he say next To command any to pray without the Spirit is to command them to see without eye work without hands or walk without feet Answ. I knew we should land at Pelagianisme Nay he is worse than Pelagius for Pelagius only said that whatever God commanded us to do he gave us sufficient strength to do it with all but this man saith except we know and feel that we have not only sufficient but all working strength we have nothing to do with the command nay except the Spirit which must do all come and move carry and drive us forward yea and we feel it and know it we are not once to take notice of the command