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B00718 A conference of the Catholike and Protestante doctrine with the expresse words of Holie Scripture. Which is the second parte of the prudentiall balance of religion. : VVherein is clearely shewed, that in more than 260 points of controuersie, Catholicks agree with the Holie Scripture, both in words and sense: and Protestants disagree in both, and depraue both the sayings, words, and sense of Scripture. / Written first in Latin, but now augmented and translated into English.; Collatio doctrinae Catholicorum ac Protestantium cum expressis S. Scripturae verbis. English. 1631 Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1631 (1631) STC 22810; ESTC S123294 532,875 801

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because you haue loued me Protestants The obedience which the faithfull giue to him is not so much a cause why he continueth his loue towards them as an effect of his loue See art 17. Scripture When you shall haue done all things that are commanded We ought to doe good workes you say we are vnprofitable seruants we haue done that which we ought to doe Protestants Thou owest nothing to God but faith This phrase We ought not of the law A faithfull man ought to doe good workes belongeth not to Christians See more art 18. Scripture I haue inclined my hart to do thy iustification for We may doe good for reward We may not euer for reward Protestants If thou pray fast c. Beware thou doest it not for that end that thou maiest reape anie temporall or eternall profit See more art 19. CHAPTER XV. OF GOOD VVORKES IN PARTICVLER SCripture I say to the vnmaried and to widous It is good for It is good not to marrie them if they so abide Protestants It is not good for a man to be single for it is not It is not good pleasant not honest nor profitable See more art 1. Single life couns●lled No● counselled Scripture Art thou loose from a wife Seek not a wife Protestants Paule will haue vniuersally all to be married God pronounceth the sentence that he will haue none to be vnmarried See more art 4. Scripture He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie is a vertue well and he that ioyneth not doth better Protestants Virginitie is no vertue but a thing indifferent Not a vertue We thinke that virginitie is nothing See more articul 2. Scripture He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie better then marriage Not better well and he that ioyneth not doth better Protestants Single life in it selfe is much more baser then marriage To beget children is the cheefest worke after preaching See more art 3. Scripture Who departed not from the temple by fastings and Fasting seruice of God praiers seruing night and daye Protestants Fasting of it selfe is an indifferent thing It is a No seruice of God naughtie superstition to thinke that fasting is a parte of Gods seruice See more art 5. Scripture This kinde of Diuels is not cast out but by Fasting driveth away Diuels It driueth thē not praier and fasting Protestants The ridiculous Papists make fasting an antidote to driue away Diuels See art 6. Scripture I Daniell mourned the dayes of three weeks desiderable Choice of meats good bread I did not eate and flesh and wine entred not into my mouth Protestants We hould this distinction of meats to be foolish Not good and wicked Choice of meates vpon certaine dayes S. Paule attributeth to the doctrin of Diuels See more art 7. Scripture I desire that praiers be made for all men Praier to be made for all Not for all Protestants Nether must we pray for euerie one We must not make praiers for the sinnes of the reprobates See more artic 8. Scripture It is a holie cogitation to pray for the dead that Good to pray for the dead they my be loosed from sinnes Protestants We detest praiers for the dead That forme of Not good praier God giue the dead a happie resurrection is to be reiected Praier in an vnknowne language good See more art 9. Scripture saieth of one praying in the Church in an vnknowne tongue Indeed thou giuest thankes well Protestants We detest praiers in an vnknowne tongue It is Not good repugnant to Scripture and contrarie to sense of nature See more art 12. Scripture Vow ye and render to our Lord your God Vowes good Not good Protestants Vowes are against the ordinance of God vowes do not become Christians See more art 14. Scripture If thou will be perfect goe sell all thou hast Forsaking of riches counselled Not counselled and giue to the poore and thou shalt haue treasure in heauen Protestants The forsaking of goods hath no commandment nor counsell in Scripture See more art 16. Scripture Almes deliuereth from all sinne and from Almes deliuereth from death Not from death Penall workes a parte of pennance No parte of pennance death Protestants Almes deliuereth not from temporall death nor from eternall death See more art 15. Scripture If in Tyre and Sidon had beene wrought the miracles that haue bene wrought in you they had done pennance in hairecloth and ashes Protestants Ashes sackcloth was no parte of pennance Sackcloth and ashes are only an externall signe of pennance See more art 18. Scripture The child grew and was strengthned in spirit Eremiticall life good and was in the deserts vntill the daye of his manifestation in Israel Protestants Eremiticall life is clownish sauage and farre Not good from ciuilitie See more art 20. Scripture God saw their Niniuites workes that they were The Niniuites pēnance true Not true conuerted from their euill way c. Protestants The pennance of the Niniuites was not true pennance See more art 19. CHAPTER XVI OF SINNE SCripture He that committeth sinne is of the Diuell Great sinners are of the Diuell Not all Protestants Nether the faithfull who sinne by chance or of them selues by weaknes but such as giue them selues to sinne serue the Diuell and ought to be called Sonnes of the Diuell See more art Scripture You are euacuated from Christ that are iustified Sinne putteth out of grace in the law you are fallen from grace Protestants Not anie enormious sinne obscureth grace much It putteth not lesse extinguisheth it The faithfull sinne but fall not from grace See more art 6. No murderer hath life Some murderer hath Iustice standeth not with sinne It standeth with sinne Sinne to be redeemed with almes Not to be redeemed with almes Sin purged by workes Not purged by them Great sinne seperateth from God Seperateth not Sinne cause of damnatiō Scripture No murderer hath life euerlasting abiding in him selfe Protestants Dauid a murderer was not yet quite spoiled of spirituall life not yet depriued of iustification See more art 6. cit Scripture What participation hath iustice with iniquitie Protestants Sinne dwelleth together with iustice in vs. A worke is partly good partly euill See more art 7. Scripture Redeeme thou thy sinnes with almes Protestants Should not Christ haue died in vaine for sinnes if sinnes could be redeemed with almes See more art 8. Scripture By mercie and faith sinnes are purged Protestants If purging of sinnes be giuen to mens workes then is Christ dead in vaine See art 8. cit Scripture Nether fornicatours nor adulterers shall possesse the kingdome of God Protestants Sinne shall not drawe vs from Christ though we commit fornication or murder a thousand times a daye See more art 9. Scripture Departe from me ye accursed into euerlasting fire for I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate Protestants Those
but matter of doubting and despairing that if we looke to them we must not onely doubt but despaire of saluation ART XVII WHETHER GOOD WORKES be a cause why God loueth vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ioan. 16. v. 27. For the Father himselfe loueth you because God loueth vs because we loue Christ Because we keepe his cōmandments you haue loued me and haue beleiued that I comeforth from God cap. 15. ver 10. If you keepe my precepts youe hall abide in my loue as I also haue kept my Fathers precepts and do abide in his loue Act. 10. v. 36. In euerie nation he that feareth him and worketh iustice is acceptable to him CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 16. v. 27. Christ plainely saieth that his disciples loue was a cause why God loued them with this kind of loue PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Ioan. 15. v. 10. The obedience which the faithfull Good workes no cause of Gods loue towards vs. giue to him is not so much a cause why he continueth his loue towards them as an effect of his loue Et in cap. 16. v. 17. We are here saied to be loued of God whiles we loue Christ because we haue a pledge of his fatherlie loue THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth that God loueth vs because we loue and beleiue in Christ that God continueth his loue towards vs if we keepe his commandments The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that our obedience is no cause why God continueth his loue towards vs that we are not loued of God because we loue Christ ART XVIII WHETHER WE OVGHT to do good workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 17. v. 10. When you shall haue done all things that are We ought to doe good workes commanded you say we are vnprofitable seruants we haue done that which we ought to do 1. Ioan 2. v. 6. He that saieth he abideth in him ought euen as he walked himselfe also to walke Et c. 3. v. 16. And we ought to yeeld our liues for the brethren Et c. 4. ver 11. If God hath so loued vs we also ought to loue one an other CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. Can. 20. If anie shall say that a man iustified and neuer so perfect is not bound to the keeping of the commandments of God and the Church but onely to beleiue be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal cited in Caluinoturcismo l. 4. c. 22. Thou owest nothing We owe nothing to God but faith to God but faith that thou maest confesse Christ Iesus and beleiue him to haue risen from the dead for so thou shalt be safe in all other things God hath made it free to the to follow thine owne will Luther Postilla in Dom. 3. Aduentus f. 39. All workes besides God requireth nothing but faith Workes are indifferent faith are to be done to our neighbour because God requireth nothing of vs but faith with which we giue him his honour In Gal. 2. to 5. f. 223. Christ hath so abrogated the workes of the law as they may be held indifferently but they bind no more Againe We are not tyed to any externall worke at all but free to any We are free to all workes To all things worke towards any man at any time or manner whatsoeuer A Christian is wholy free to all things doing or omitting as the occasion serueth or wanteth Psal 5. to 3. f. 171. Take this rule where Luthers rule of doing good the Scripture commandeth a good worke to be done do thou so vnderstand that it forbiddeth thee to do a good worke Et apud Kemnitium in locis part 2. tit de operibus p. 73. This phrase of the law A faithfull man ought to do good workes belongeth A Christian ought not to doe good not to Christians And apud Schlusselburg to 7. Catal. Haeret p. 193. We fight as well against good workes as against sinnes And l. de votis apud Coccium to 1. p. 1113. The doctrine Luther fighteth against good workes of workes is necessarily the doctrine of diuels Postilla in Natali Christi ib. Good workes are a couer of filthinesse and hypocrisie Et Serm. de Nouo testamento seu de Missa Let vs beware Bewareth of good workes of sinne but much more of good workes and laws and let vs attend to Gods promise and faith Ministri Electorales in Colloq Aldeburg p. 286. haue these words Gallus affirmed that Luther could hardly beare these propositions Good workes are necessarie A Christiā ought A Christian ought not do doe good workes to do good workes Et p. 128. Gallus Otto and manie other men do openly and bitterly reiect as false and improper this speach Good workes are necessarie and denie that Christians ought to doe good workes Liber Concordiae c. 4. Some haue disputed that good workes Good workes are free are not necessarie but free and voluntarie And some haue earnestly contended that new obedience is not necessarie in the iustified Melancthon in Resp ad Art 24. Bauar to 4. Some Protestants New obediēce not due denie this proposition New obedience is due because it is voluntarie Illyricus apud Schiusselburg to 7. Catal. Haeret. p. 271. condemneth Maior because he teacheth Good workes are necessarie to saluation by reason of debt Et in Apologia cont No debt Tiletan c. 6. All the obedience which Christ properly requireth of those that are to be saued is onely to beleiue in him and to runne to free bankets to which we are inuited of him Pareus l. 4. de Iustific c. 1. confesseth that this is the doctrine Good workes pertaine not to the kingdome of Christ Belonge to Satan We must pray to haue no good workes of the rigid Lutherans Good workes and new obediēce partaine not to the kingdome of Christ but to the world Christiās with their good workes belong to Sathan good workes are so farre from being necessarie as that they hinder saluation and be pernitious We ought to pray God that we perseuere to the end in faith without all good workes And the same speaches of theirs are repeated out of Colloq Aldeburg by Coccius to 1. p. 1113. Zuinglius l. de Relig. c. de Merito The Prophets do vehemently vrge to good workes but whom those that beleiue not well Caluin in Ioan. 6. v. 29. This alone doth God aske of vs that God requireth onely faith we beleiue THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that we ought to do the workes which are commanded vs that we ought to walke as Christ walked that we ought to giue our liues for our brethren that we ought to loue one an other The same say Catholikes Protestants expressely say that a Christian ought not to doe good workes that good workes are indifferent free voluntarie not necessarie and compell no more that a Christian is indifferent to all good workes not tyed to doe good workes
doctrine of the law not of the Ghospell Caluin ib. We gather that this answere of Christ is according to the law Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 6. col 543. That all be bound vnder payne of losse of eternall life to doe good and auoid sinne is a sentence of the law and must and ought to be corrected and restrained by the Protestant Ghospell or by remission of sinnes Peter Martyr in Rom. 11. That saying Forgiue and it shal be forgiuen is a precept and therefore pertaineth to the law Melancthon in Apologia tom 3. c. de argumentis The promise of reconciliation and of eternall life is free but proper legall promises are added for workes as who shall giue a draught of water shall not want his reward Wherefore thus I frame my eleuenth argument Who not onely contradict the expresse words of Scripture but also are compelled to turne conditionall propositions of Scripture into absolute and to delude them diuers other waies do contradict also the sincere meaning of the Scripture But thus doe Protestants Therefore c. CHAPTER XII THAT PROTESTANTS CHANGE manie causall propositions of Scripture into not causall THE 12. argument for to proue that Protestants contradict the true sense of Scripture shal be because they are compelled in manie and weightie controuersies to turne causall propositions into not causall For is we proue that Christ was exalted for his humiliation because it is saied Philippen 2. ver 8. He humbled himselfe made obedient vnto death euen the death of the crosse For For the which thing God hath exalted him Caluin ibid. answereth That illatiue particle wherefore in this place signifieth rather consequence then cause And 2. Instit c. 17. § vlt. The solution is easie that Paul there speaketh not of the cause of Christs exaltation but onely sheweth the consequence And Daneus Controuer 2. pag. 201. The particle For which sheweth the order and continuation of the speach not the cause for which If we proue the same out of those wordes Hebrew 2. ver 9. We see Iesus because of the passion of death crowned with glorie and honour Caluin ib. answereth Because of the passion of death is as much as if he had saied Christ hauing died was raised to this glorie which he hath gotten For the meanes onely that I may so speake of obtaining glorie is declared If we proue that confession of faith is cause of saluatiō as faith is cause of iustification out of those words Rom. 10. ver 10. For with heart we beleiue vnto iustice but with the To. mouth confesson is made to saluation Caluin ib. answereth We must not gather thereof that confession is cause of saluation he ment onely to tell how God doth perfect our saluation It is a necessitie of perpetuall consequence not that he attributeth saluation to confession Hunnius lib. de Iustificat p. 186. saieth That Confession to saluation is the same that confession of saluation Which the Electorall Ministers in Colloq Aldeburg p. 295. affirme to be a corruption of Scripture If we proue that keeping of the commandements is cause of our freindship with God by those words Ioan. 15. v. 14. You are my freinds if you doe the things that I commād If. you Caluin ib. answereth He meaneth not that we get so much honour by anie merit of ours but onely admonisheth vs vpon what condition he receaueth vs into grace and vouchsafeth to reckon vs among his freinds If we proue that the forgiuenesse of our sinnes dependeth vpon our forgiuing of others out of those words Luc. 11. v. 4. Forgiue vs our sinnes for because our selues also do Because forgiue euerie one that is in debt to vs. Caluin in Math. 6. v. 11. answereth Neuerthelesse forgiuenesse which we demand for our selues dependeth not of that which we giue but by this means Christ would exhorte vs to forgiue all offenses and withall confirme more our trust of forgiuenesse as it were by fealing it Nether skilleth it that in Luke is the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is as much as For because or For because Christs meaning was not to note the cause but onely to aduertise what kind of mind we ought to haue towards our brethren whiles we seeke to be reconciled to God If we proue that by charitie we be made the sonnes of God out of those words Math. 5. ver 45. But I say to you That loue your enemies doe good to them that hate you and pray for them that persecure and abuse you that you may be the children of your father which is in heauen Calum ib. answereth Vnderstand not that by our beneficence we become the children of God But because the same Spirit which is witnesse assurance and seall of our free adoption doth correct the naughtie affectiōs of the flesh which are contrarie to charitie Christ proueth by the effect that no others are the children of God but those who resemble him in clemencie and meeknes If we proue that loue is the cause of forgiuing sinnes by those words Luc. 7. v. 47. Manie sinnes are forgiuen her Because because she hath loued much Aretius in locis part 1. fol. 84. answereth Because is taken ostentiuely not causatiuely This is so necessarie as the place cannot be otherwise vnderstood The like hath Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 4. Polanus in disp priuat 36. If we proue that keeping of the commandments is cause of obtaining what we pray for out of those words 1. Ioan. 3. v. 22. Whatsoeuer we shall aske we shall receaue of Because him because we keep his commandements Caluin ibidem answereth He meaneth not that our trust in praier consisteth in our workes but this onely he vrgeth that pietie and sincere worshippe of God cannot be seperated from faith Nether must it seeme absurd that he vseth the causall particle though he meane not of the cause for the inseperable accident vseth sometime to be put for the cause If we proue that workes are cause of reward out of these words Math. 16. ver 27. He will render to euerie man According according to his workes Caluin ibid. answereth As often as reward is promised to good workes the cause of saluation is not shewed but the faithfull are onely encouraged to doe well because they are assured that they shall not leese their labour If we proue that good workes are cause of eternall happines out of these words Math. 25. v. 34. Possessethe For. kingdome c. For I was hungrie and you gaue me to eate And c. 25. v. 23. Because thou hast beene faithfull ouer a few things I will place the ouer manie things enter into the ioy of thy Lord. And Apocal. 7. ver 14. These are they which are come out of Therefore great tribulation c. therefore they are before the throne of God Pareus lib. 5. de Iustificat c. 3. saieth The answere of all Protestants is that the causall particle in the
Infants are saued by Gods election albeit they be taken out of this life not only without baptisme but also without faith See more art 15. Scripture What shall it profit if a man say he hath faith but hath not workes Shall his faith be able to saue him Protestants Faith iustifieth without good workes Faith void of good workes is imputed to iustice See more art 17. Scripture Whosoeuer beleiueth that Iesus is Christ is borne of God Abraham beleiued and it was imputed him to iustice Protestants Faith doth not iustifie vs by the worke beleife Not iustifieth See more art 18. Scripture To him that beleiueth in him who iustifieth the Faith reputed to iustice impious his faith is reputed to iustice Protestants The act of beleiuing is not our iustice Not the Not reputed act or worke of our faith that is our beleife iustifieth vs. See more art 19 Scripture Of the Princes also manie beleiued in him but for Certaine princes beleiued They beleiued not Manie beleiued They beleiued not Faith cause of Saluation Not cause thereof Simō Magus beleiued He beleiued not Faith by hearing Not by hearing the Pharises they did not confesse Protestants We do not graunt that thoses Princes had true faith We denie that they truely beleiued See more art 20. Scripture Ihon. 2. Manie beleiued in his name Protestants Their faith was not true but hypocrisie See art 20. cit Scripture Thy faith hath made thee safe Protestants Faith doth not worke cause or procure our Saluation See more art 16. Scripture Simon Magus also him selfe beleiued Protestants Some beleiue not at all as Simon Magus He was quite faithlesse indeed he beleiued not See more art 21. Scripture Faith is by hearing Protestants Faith cometh not by the labour of the preachers Faith riseth of the Scripture alone not of the authoritie of the Church Faith can not be gotten by words See more articul 22. Scripture For a time they beleiue and in time of temptation Faith some time lost they reuolt Protestants True faith can neuer be lost It cannot be by Neuer lost anie means that those who beleiue should leese their faith See more art 23. Scripture reporteth that Christ saied to Thomas Be S. Thomas faith not incredulous but faithfull And that Thomas saied Vnlesse I see c. I will not beleiue Protestants Faith was not vtterly extinct in Thomas Faith He lost it not lay in his hart See more art 23. cit Scripture He that beleiueth in the Sonne hath life euerlasting Faith rewarded Protestants There is noe reward to faith No reward can be Not rewarded rendred to faith See art 24. Scripture Reporteth that Christ saied to the woman The womans faith pure who touched the hem of his garment Thy faith hath made the safe Protestants It may be that some errour or vice was mingled Not pure with the womans faith Perhaps she slipt a litle out of the way See more art 25. CHAPTER XIV OF GOOD VVORKES IN GENERAL SCripture saieth to a sinner beleiuing that there is one Some workes of a sinner good God Thou doest well and Rahab the harlot was not she iustified by workes Protestants VVhat workes soeuer goe before iustification None good are euill What can sinners alienated from God doe but is execrable in his iudgment See more art 1. Scripture In all these things Iob sinned not with his lips The iust sinne not in euerie worke In euerie worke Good workes sweet before God Vnsweet Protestants The iust man sinneth in euerie good worke All saints in euerie good worke do sinne See more art 2. Scripture Noë offered holocaustes vpon the altar and our lord smelled a sweell sauour Protestants Our workes stincke before God if they be called to a strait account Whatsoeuer we can giue to God is stenchie See more art 3. Scripture Remember how I haue walked before thee in trueth Some workes perfect and in a perfect hart Protestants All our good workes are imperfect They are None perfect partely euill See more art 4. Scripture Phinees stood and pacified and the slaughter ceased Some workes iust before God None iust before hmi and it was reputed to him vnto iustice Protestants Who make their workes euen those which they imagin to doe by the grace of Christ iustice before God make idols of them See more art 5. Scripture What is our hope or ioye or crowne of glorie Are Glorie before God not you before our lord Iesus in his coming Protestants It can not be that anie haue glorie before God Not glorie before him See more art 9. Scripture He who ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Some workes better then others None better then others Some workes counselled None counselled well and he who ioyneth not doth better Protestants Before God there is no worke better then other See more art 10. Scripture As concerning virgins a commandment of our Lord I haue not but counsell I giue Protestants There are not some precepts and others counsells See more art 11. Scripture If you will not forgiue men nether will your Father Some workes necessarie to forgiuenesse Not necessarie forgiue you your offenses Protestants The pardon which we aske to be giuen to vs dependeth not vpon that which we giue to others See more artic 12. Scripture Patience is necessarie for you that doing the will Some necessarie to saluauation Not necessarie Some profitable None profitable of God you may receaue the promise Protestants Good workes are not necessarie to saluation See more art 13. Scripture Pietie is profitable to all things hauing promise of the life that now is and of that to come Protestants To teach that workes are holesome and profitable is diuellish and apostaticall from faith workes are vnprofitable to Christian iustice and likewise to saluation See more art 14. Scripture Be ye in nothing terrified of the aduersaries which Affliction cause of saluation to them is cause of perdition but to you of saluation and this of God Protestants The Scripture no where teacheth that the afflictions Not cause of saluation which the Saints suffer of the wicked are cause of their saluation See more art 15. Scripture Possesse you the kingdome prepared for you For I Workes cause of enioying heauen Not cause was an hungred and you gaue me to eate Protestants None shal be saued for his workes The kingdome of heauen is not giuen for good workes The iust are not rewarded for the workes of iustice which they haue done See more art 15. cit Scripture Labour that by good workes you may make sure Workes make cer●aintie of saluation They make it not your vocation and election Protestants We are vtterly vndone if we be sent to our workes when we must seeke the certaintie of our saluation See more art 16. Workes cause that God loueth vs. Not cause Scripture The Father him selfe loueth you
death to be destroied right who say that it is false that God created some to life others to death onely that he might shew his mercie in them and his power and iustice in these cap. 4. He createth some to this end to be destroied c. 6. That one is saued or damned we must needes confesse that Gods will was and is the cheefest Et apud Schusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin art 8. Gods will is the first and vnauoidable Gods will the first cause of perdition cause of the perdition of them that perish And l. 3. de natura Dei c. 4. q. 4. As for that place of wisdome Death entred into the world by the enuie of the Diuel and if there be any such others in which death is attributed to the Diuel as to the Author we answere that it doth not follow that God willeth God author of death not death or is not the author of it For the same effect may proceed from diuers causes Bucanus l. 4. Syntagm c. 10. The cause efficient and mouing for which the decree of affirmatiue or negatiue reprobation was made of God is not sinne The true and onely mouing cause for which the decree of reprobation was made is Gods pleasure or free will See manie more like sayings of Protestants in my Latin booke l. 1. art 22. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God of him selfe will not the death of the impious or of him that dieth yea God sweareth that he will not his death and the Scripture addeth that God made not death that it entred by the Diuel that impious men are not necessarie for God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say the contrarie that God will the death of a sinner with his vnsearchable will that he is the Author of death that he created men to perdition death and damnation that he is the beginning the first vnauoidable cause of the perdition of them that perish That he predestinateth to death whome he would and why he would that sinne is not the cause of the decree of damnation That sinne is nether efficient nor mouing cause of negatiue or affirmatiue reprobation but onely the pleasure and free will of God ART XXIII WHETHER GOD DAMNETH men for sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 25. v. 41. Then he shall saye to them also that be at God damneth for sinne his left hand Get ye away frō me you cursed into fire euerlasting For I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarmin l. 2. de Grat. lib. arb c. 16. The Scriptures euerie where teach that by the iust iudgment of God euerlasting punishment is rendred vnto sinne PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther l. de seru arb tom 2. fol. 461. This most of all offendeth God damneth men for his mere will Respecteth not deserts in those that are to be damned Damneth those that deserue not common sense or naturall reason that God for his mere will doth forsake harden and damne men Fol. 465. Let vs I pray you feigne that God must be such a one as respecteth deserts in them who are to be damned Shall we not in like manner auouch and graunt that he respecteth deserts in them who are to be saued And fol. 466. It is now incomprehensible how it is iust that he damneth them that deserue not and yet is beleeued Zanchius apud Schusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin art 8. Here we saye that there is no other cause of mens damnation thē Gods mere pleasure Rennecber 16. The cause of damnation or reprobation is not to be saught in men but Gods will is the cheefest and supreme cause thereof Also Gryneus 16. Sinnes are Sinne not the cause of damnation not the cause why men are damned And Spindlerus 16. Sinne can no way be the cause why men are damned THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that men are damned and adiudged to hell fire for sinne The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say the contrarie that sinnes are not the cause why men are damned that can no way be the cause why men are damned that there is no other cause of mens damnation then Gods mere pleasure that God damneth those who deserue it not that he respecteth not deserts in those that he damneth that he damneth men for his mere will And thus much of Gods inward and outward acts toward sinne good works and mankinde let vs now see something of his power ART XXIV WHETHER GOD BE ALmightie and can doe all things SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Genes 17. v. 1. Our Lord appeared vnto him and saied vnto God is almightie him I am the God almightie Iob. 42. v. 2. I know thou canst doe all things Mathew 19. v. 26. With God all things are possible The same is repeated Marke 10. and 14. Luke 1. vers 36. There shall not be impossible with God any word CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin l. 3. de Euchar. c. 2. All diuines write that Gods power is not absolute God is saied to be almightie because he can do all that implieth not contradiction SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Caluin in Resp ad Nebulon. p. 730. Caluin euerie where earnestly reiecteth that deuise of Gods absolute power which the Sophisters prate of in their scholes Which he repeateth de Praedest 728. de Prouid 755. 1. Inst c. 17. § 2. l. 3. c. 23. § 2. in c. 25. Isaiae Beza cont Heshusium vol. 1. p. 299. That saying of thine All thinges are possible to God hath some exception P. 300. You forsouth shall teach vs that Gods omnipotencie must not Gods omnipotencie limited Some things impossible to God be tied to that order which willingly he hath appointed to him selfe And pag. 302. He saieth that God can no more put Christs bodie in two places at once then he can make new Gods In Colloq Montisbel p. 27. God cannot make that Christs bodie be substantially in many places at one time Lib. quaest vol. 1. p. 658 God cannot make that one and the same bodie be substantially in many places or in any place not coextended to the place Which also he repeateth Respons ad Acta Torgens vol. 3. p. 60. Peter Martyr Respons ad Gardiner obiect 11. We complaine that you alwaies obiect Gods power whereas this Christs To which Gods power doth not extend Gods omnipotencie not without exception Beareth not some things bodie to be at once in manie places is of that kinde of things to which Gods power doth not extend And lib. 1. Epistolarum Zanchij pag. 408. We warne the godlie that Gods omnipotencie which we beleiue is not to be beleiued without all exception Sadeel ad art 14. aburat We haue shewed that Christs bodie cannot be really present in many places at once and that Gods omnipotencie cannot beare this And yet these men say that their faith can make present things that are to come absent and farthest of as
Gods word to be true but that the diuels themselues do beleiue so much ART VI. WHETHER FAITH BE DIstinct from Hope and Charitie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 13. ver 13. And now there remaine Faith Hope Charitie Faith is distinct from Hope and Charitie these three but the greater of these is charitie Ibid. ver 2. If I should haue all faith so that I could remoue mountaines and haue not charitie I am nothing CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in 1. Corint 2. v. 12. We beleiue S. Paul not Caluin that these faith hope charitie are three They are three they are distinct they are not one and the same there is one nature of faith an other of hope an other of charitie PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius l. de ver fals relig c. de Merito to 2. But who Faith all one with Hope and Charitie vnderstand not that faith hope and charitie are the selfe same thing to wit this trust in God wil be forced to let passe manie knots in Scripture vnloosed Againe If hope saue and faith saue faith and hope shal be the same thing And soone after Faith and charitie must be the same thing Nether let here anie merueill and feare that these three Theologicall vertues are confounded of vs. Surely we haue learned this out of Scripture that vnlesse euerie one of these vertues be each other it is quite nothing much lesse a vertue Et c. de Euchar. Faith is hope and trust In Resp ad Luther f. 397. The same nature and of spring is of faith and loue yea both these are one the selfe same thing The like he hath in 1. Cor. 13. to 4. And generally all Protestants confound faith with hope in that they say as we shall see hereafter art 14. that faith is trust and trust ether is strong hope or as we shall heare P. Martyr there teach differeth not from hope THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that Faith Hope and Charitie are three things The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that they are the selfe same thing that they are confounded that each one of them is the other ART VII WHETHER FAITH BE greater then Charitie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. 1. Cor. 13. v. 13. And now there remaine Faith Hope Charitie Faith lesse then Charitie these there but the greater of these is charitie CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE S. Thomas in 1. Cor. 13. v. 13. These three remaine now but charitie is greater then all PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Confessio Augustana c. de discrim ciborum in Melancthon to 3. The doctrine of Iustice by faith must be eminent in Faith aboue workes the Church that faith which beleiueth sinnes to be remitted for Christ be placed farre aboue workes Et c. de bonis operibus Amongst good workes the chiefest and highest worshippe of God is faith it selfe Tindal in Fox p. 1144. We can shew vnto God no greater The diuinest of all Gods guifts honour then to haue faith and trust in him Perkins in Hebr. 11. Hence we gather that faith is more diuine then all the rest of Gods guifts Peter Martyr in locis clas 3. c. 3. § 6. Faith as it is a worke surpasseth by manie degrees other workes Luther in Galat. 3. to 5. fol. 346. If charitie be the forme of faith as they dote streight waies I am forced to thinke that charitie is the chiefest and greatest parte of Christian religion and so I leese Christ In c. 4. fol. 382. Who so teach faith as they attribute more to charitie then to faith they greatly dishonour Christ and wickedly depraue his word De Captiuit Babil to 2. The most excellente worke of all The chiefest f. 74. Faith is the most excellent worke of all workes Postilla in Feria S. Ioannis fol. 93. Whatsoeuer the Ghospell teacheth or commandeth of workes it so teacheth and commandeth as it maketh faith the chiefe Et in Dom. Quinquagesim f. 207. More noble then Charitie Faith is more worthie better and more noble then charitie Herbrandus in Compendio Theol. loco de Iustificat Faith is the chiefest and hardest worshippe which we can giue to God Lobechius Disput 9. Faith hath the first and highest degree amongest all goods Reineccius to 4. Armaturae c. 18. Yea faith is greater then Greater then Charitie Aboue Charitie charitie Caluin in 1. Cor. 13. v. 13. If we sift all the effects of faith and compare them faith wil be found to be superiour in manie points Yea charitie it selfe as the Apostle teacheth 1. Thessalon 1. is the effect of faith but without doubt the effect is inferiour to the cause THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Charitie is greater thē Faith The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that faith is to be placed aboue workes is greater nobler better then charitie more diuine then the other guiftes of God that charitie is inferiour to faith ART VIII WHETHER FAITH MAY BE without Charitie or good workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ioan. 12. v. 42. Of the Princes also manie beleiued in him but Faith without workes for the Pharisees they did not confesse that they might not be cast out of the Synagogue For they loued the glorie of men more then the glorie of God 1. Cor. 13. v. 2. If I should haue all faith so that I could remoue mountaines and haue not charitie I am nothing Iames 2. v. 14. What shall it profit my brethren if a man say he hath faith but hath not workes Dauid also when he abused the wife of Vrias and procured him to be slayne had not charitie towards his neighbour nor towards God whome he so greatly offended Nor S. Peter had charitie to Christ when he denied and foreswore him In whome at those times faith was without good yea with verie euill workes CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 6. cap. 15. We must teach that by euerie mortall sinne the grace of iustification is lost though not faith PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Concion vlt. p. 695. Who thinke that true faith Faith neuer void of good workes may be idly or void of good workes do beleiue against the Confession of our Church That is a false faith which is not ioyned with the keeping of the commandments Iewel in Defense of the Apologie p. 304. Yea say Faith True faith without workes without workes is neuerthelesse a true and reall faith Verily so is fire without heat a true and reall fire If the wicked without good workes haue a true and reall faith then may you also say that the Diuel likewise hath a true and reall faith This faith is no faith It is onely an imaginarie and Mathematicall phantasie Apologia Confess Augustanae c. 3. Our aduersarie teach Not with mortall sinne that faith may be with mortall sinne c. 5. They dreame that faith can stand with mortall sinne C. de resp ad argumenta Faith without good workes is hypocrisie Liber
grace into Infants Perkins Cathol reform Contr. 16. c. 1. pag. 271. Though a Desire to beleiue is sufficient desire to repent and to beleiue be not faith and repentance in nature yet in Gods acceptation it is God accepting the will for the deed p. 272. Now if any shall say that without a liuelie faith in Christ none can be saued I answere that God accepts the desire to beleiue for liuelie faith in the time of temptation and in the time of our first conuersion p. 273. Certaine it is that God in sundrie cases accepts of this desire to beleiue for true faith indeed See Rogers on the 25. Art p. 147. Zuinglius de Prouidentia to 1. fol. 370. It is not generall Faith not necessarie to saluation that who hath not faith is to be damned Againe As for the damnation of the incredulous they onely are vnderstood who heard and beleiued not of others we cannot iudge De Peccato orig to 2. f 118. That who beleiueth not shal be damned is not to be vnderstood absolutely but of thē who hauing heard the Ghospell would not beleiue Et in Exposit Fidei to 2. fol. 659. Heathens may be saued he saieth that in heauen we shall find Hercules Theseus Numa and such like Pagans and his opinion therein defend the Tigurins in their Confession of faith Bullinger in the Preface thereof Gualter in Praefat. operum Zuinglij in Apologia pro eodem And the same doctrine of the saluation of Pagans mantayne Erasmus Thommer Hardenberg Tossanus and other Protestants as Schlusselburg reporteth l. 3. Theol. Caluin art 7. Bucer in Math. 19. Furthermore out of that that Infants Infants saued without faith want faith nothing lesse is concluded then which some thinke that therefore they please not God nor are Saintes Musculus in locis tit de baptismo Infants are saued by Gods election albeit they be taken out of this life not onely without baptisme but also without faith Caluin in Math. 19. v. 14. That they auouch that we are no other waies reconciled to God and made heires of adoption then by faith that we confesse of such as are of discretion but for so much as pertaineth to infants this place conuinceth it to be false Et 4. Instit c. 16. § 29. 31. li. cont Seruet p. 647. he writeth that that sentence Euerie one that beleiueth not the Sōne of God abideth in death belongeth not to infants Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 407. Albeit the children of Christans want faith yet is not baptisme vnprofitable to them Daneus Controuers de Baptismo c. 10. He asketh what No faith needfull to Infants faith it is which we require in the baptisme of Infants I answere None Peter Martyr in Schlusselburg l. 1. Theol. Caluin art 18. The children of faithfull parents are saintes by the mere mercie of God though they haue not true faith in Christ Hungari apud Grauer in Absurdis Caluin cap. 4. sect 25. The children of Christians cannot be properly saied to haue faith yet all that are predestinate amongst them are saued and obtaine the kingdome of heauen THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that who beleiueth not shal be condemned is already iudged shall not see life that the wrath of God abideth vpon him and that it is impossible to please God without faith The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christ dwelleth in Infants though they haue no faith that they please God are saued are Saintes without faith that the sentence of condemnation against incredulous belongeth nether to infants nor to such as haue not heard the Ghospell that a man may be saued with desire of faith though he haue no faith indeed that in diuers cases God accepteth the desire of faith for liuelie faith that diuers Pagās are saued Which are so contrarie to Scripture as diuers Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XVI WHETHER FAITH DO INdeed iustifie or be a true cause of iustification SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. The holie Scripture in the places cited before artic 14. Faith is a true cause of Iustification and Saluatiō saieth that we are iustified by faith receaue remission of sinnes by faith liue of faith are saued by faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. cap. 8. Faith is the beginning of mans saluation the foundation and roote of all iustification CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Confessio Belgica art 22. Properly speaking we meane not Faith it selfe doth not iustifie that faith it selfe by it selfe or of it selfe doth iustifie vs as which is onely as it were an instrument with which we apprehend Christ our iustice Whitaker ad Demonstrat 10. Sanderi Faith is not cause No cause of saluation of our saluation Perkins in Galat. 3. Faith doth not cause worke or procure Saluation dependeth not of faith our Saluation In Serie causarum cap. 57. Saluation dependeth not of our faith The same hath Sutclife cited art 14. Illyricus in Claue Scriptur part 2. tract 6. col 551. Faith the word and Sacraments are saied to saue vs whereas God alone doth such things col 552. It is often saied Thy faith hath made thee safe whereas the onely mercie of God and his omnipotencie apprehended by faith doth that Whereupon he addeth that Faith no true cause saluation in the Scripture Effects are often times attributed to not true or not to principall causes Zuinglius in Elencho to 2. f. 34. Here is a diffcultie Hou faith doth make blessed or iustifieth But whatsoeuer seemeth hard to loose flieth a sunder with a small stroke of the figure synechdoche For faith is taken for the election the predestination and vocation of God all which goe before faith Bucanus in Instit Theol. loco 31. Nether the worke nor act Faith doth not iustifie vs of faith doth iustifie vs but Christ himselfe whome we apprehend by faith Pareus l. 1. de Iustif c. 17. It cannot be saied with out plaine absurditie and falsitie that we are iustified by faith or out of faith as by an efficient or formall cause Againe By no means that efficiencie or vertue of iustifying can be ascribed to faith without absurditie and falsitie Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 41. This speech Faith doth iustifie vs is figuratiue and metonymicall and hath this sense God iustifieth the beleiuer for the merit of Christ which the beleiuer by onely faith apprehēdeth c. 56. Baptisme goeth before saluatiō but causeth it not which we giue not to faith properly but onely metaleptically THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that Faith truely causeth iustification and saluation The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that faith is no cause of our saluation nether worketh not procureth our saluation that our saluation dependeth not vpon our faith that faith doth not iustifie vs that without absurditie and falsitie it cannot be saied faith is ether efficient or formall cause of iustification or hath vertue of iustifying ART XVII
neighbour that euerie good worke is to be directed onely for chastizment of our bodie or profit of our neighbour that it is not amōg the dueties of a Christian man which profiteth not our neighbour that before God we must cease from workes that our workes are to be directed to man onely and not to God Which sometimes Protestants themselues confesse to be contrarie to Scripture See l. 2. c. 30. THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF GOOD workes in generall The things which we haue rehearsed in this chapter do clearly shew that Protestants teach farre otherwise of of good workes then Scripture doth For the holie Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that good workes of the iust are not sinnes are a sweet sauour before God are intirely good are iust or iniust worthie meritorious vnequall not all commanded of God profitable and necessarie to iustification and saluation cause of saluation testimonie of iustice and election a cause why God loueth vs that we ought to do good workes and for Gods glorie and that we may also do them partly for reward All which are denied of Protestants They also shew that in this matter of good workes What Protest steale from goost workes if in anie whatsoeuer Protestants playe the thieues and steale For from the workes of sinnes they steale all goodnesse And from the workes of the iust they steale intire goodnesse true goodnesse true iustice sweetnes worth and merit before God who iudgeth of them as they are indeed They steale away also their necessitie and vtilite of iustifying and sauing their causalitie of saluation o● of Gods loue towards vs their force of testifying iustification or election our obligation to do them and the end for which they are to be done to wit reward and Gods glorie And consequently they take out of the world all true vertue or iustice and the sweetnes thereof and also the worth the commoditie the efficacitie the testification and end and in their steed bring in mere sinnes mere iniquities stenches dung vnpleasant to God vnworthie of God and vnprofitable to vs yea hurthfull and pernitious And yet these men take it in euill parte to be called enemies of good workes or that they speake contemptuously of them But how I pray you can they speake more contemptuously of good workes they Protest enemies of good workes callling them ill sinnes mere sinnes mere iniquities mere pollutions stenches and dung in the sight of God who iudgeth no otherwise of them then they are indeed Or how can they be greater enemies of good workes then by taking away or denying that there are any true good workes in the world and by putting in their places their quite contraries that is euill workes and sinnes And hitherto of good workes in generall Now of them in par-particular CHAPTER XIV OF GOOD VVORKES IN PARTICVLAR ART I. WHETHER IT BE GOOD not to marrie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. CORINT 1. cap. 7. vers 8. But I say to the vnmarried Good to abide vnmarried and to woddows it is good for them if they so abide as I also And vers 1. It is good for a man not to touch a woman vers 26. It is good for a Not no touch a woman man so to be CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Monachis cap. 9. Paul absolutely pronounceth that it is good not to touch a woman PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in 1. Cor 7. v. 1. The Lord calleth it euill to want a Ill to want a wife wife In Gen. 2. v. 18. Maniethimke that single life is good for them and therefore lest they should be miserable they abstaine A wicked suggestion of Sathan from marriage But let the faithfull learne to oppose this sentēce of God against the wicked suggestions of Sathan Peter Martyr in thesibus p. 1002. It is not good for a man Not honest to be single to be single for it is not pleasant not honest not profitable And hereupon they condemne the vow of chastitie or single life Luther de votis to 2. fol. 273. Vowed chastitie is quite contrarie Vow of chastitie contrarie to the Ghospell Imptous to the Ghospell Zuinglius de Relig. c. de votis All vowes of chastitie are impious Caluin in Refutat Cathalani prg. 384. The vow of single life is a rebellion against God Perkins in Galat 2. tom 2. The vowes of perpetuall countinencie pouertie and regular obedience are indeed the state of abhomination CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture plainely saieth that it is good to abide single and not to touch a woman The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that it is euill to want a wife that it is a wicked suggestion of Sathan to abstaine from marriage that it is not good to be single and that the vow of chastitie or single life is nought ART II. WHETHER VIRGINITIE BE a vertue or a good that is honest SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 7. v. 35 after the Apostle had exhorted to virginitie Virginitie is honest or vertuous and single life he saieth And this I speake to your profit not to cast a snare vpon you but to that which is honest and that may giue you power without impediment to pray our Lord. Et v. 34. And the woman vnmarried and the virgin thinketh Holines in bodie and spirit Better then marriage More blessed on the things that pertaine to our Lord that she may be holie both in bodie and in spirit ver 38. He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth well and he that ioyneth not doth better v. 40. But more blessed shal s be be if she so remayne Math. 19. v. 12. There are Eunuchs which haue gelded themselues Desired for heauen for the kingdome of heauen CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 22. q. 152. art 3. Virginitie is a speciall vertue hauing it selfe to chastitie as magnificence to liberalitie PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker ad Ration 8. Campiani Virginitie is not simply Virginitie is not simply good good Againe Of them who can alwaies keepe virginall chastitie virginitie is to be desired not altogether but for those troubles which ordinarily follow marriage Tindal in Fox his Actes p. 1141. Keeping of virginitie and Virginitie in the religious is diuelish A thing indifferent It is nothing chastitie of the religious is a diuelish thing Apologia Confess Augustanae cap. de votis Obedience pouertie single life are things indifferent Bidenbachius in Consensu Iesuit Christian p. 769. We thinke that virginitie widdowhood and marriage are nothing Caluin in Math. 19. ver 12. It is a foolish imagination that No vertue single life is a vertue for of it selfe it pleaseth God no more then fasting nor deserues to be reckoned among the dueties which he requireth of vs. Et de vera reform p. 321. Nether is virginitie praised as if of it selfe it were a vertue Beza in Confess cap. 4. sect 16. There is a thirde kinde
Protestants expound of onely endeauour or desire to do it THE 16. argument shal be taken from thence that words of Scripture which signifie the working or doing of a thing Protestants are compelled to expound of onely endeauour or desire to worke or doe it Thus they delude those words of Scripture which say that some men are iust are perfect auoide euill doe the will of God loue him with all their heart fulfill the law keepe the commandements worke their saluation and the like Caluin in Math. 12. vers 33. those words Ether make a Make good 1. aspire to good tree good c. expoundeth thus It cometh of the free indulgence of God that he vouchsafeth them so honorable a title of good who aspire to goodnesse In Math. 6. v. 9. Thy will be done This sufficeth saieth he to testifie by desire that we Keepé 1. applie their endeauour hate and are sorie for whatsoeuer we see contrarie to Gods will and desire to haue it destroied In Ioan. 15. v. 10. If yee keepe my commandements The faithfull saieth he are accoūted to keepe Christs commandements when they applie thereto their endeauour albeit they be farre from the marke Vpon that Rom. 8. v. 1. Who walke according to the flesh He saieth they walke according to the flesh not who haue quite cast of all sense of the flesh but who diligently labour to tame and mortifie the flesh that the desire of pietie may seeme to reigne in them Et vers 5. He testifieth that he accounteth not them carnall who aspire to heauenlie iustice but them who are wholy addicted to the world In Philip. 2. vers 3. Worke your saluation We are Worke. 1. aspire to it Iust 1. aspire to iustice saied to worke it when gouerned by the holie Ghost we aspire to heauenlie life In 1. Tim. 1. v. 9. The law is not set for the iust I answere that Paul here calleth them iust not who are wholy perfect as there is none to be found but who with a singular desire of heart aspire to goodnesse Et ib. c. 4. v. vlt. Thou shalt saue thy selfe The Pastour is saied to saue himselfe because that is Worke. 1. Goe forward vsuall that the faithfull worke their saluation when they goe forewarde in the course thereof In 1. Pet. 4. v. 18. If a iust man shall scarce be saued He calleth them iust not who are perfectly iust but who endeauour to liue well In 1. Ioan. 2. vers 3. If Keepe 1. Endeauour we keepe his commandements He meaneth not to keepe the commandements to fully satisfie the law which example can neuer be found in the world but who according to mans infirmitie doe endeauour to frame their life to Gods seruice And ib. v. 5. But who keepeth his word truely in him the loue of God is perfect I answere saieth Caluin that it sufficeth so euerie one according to the measure of grace giuen to him doe aspire to this perfection And ib in c. 3. v. 5. There is no sinne in him They are esteemed of the cheifest parte that is they are saied to be iust and to liue iustly because with a sincere aff●ction of heart they aspire to iustice This and manie such like Caluin Bucer vpon that Math 7. v. 21. But who doeth the will Doeth 1. Endeauoureth of my Father That is saieth he who with his mynd doth endeauour to frame himselfe to the will of the Father In Math. 12 v. 50. Whosoeuer doth the will of my Father We must must note that to doe the will of the Father is all one as to heare the words of Christ and to doe them that is to endeauour from our heart to doe them And in Ioan. 14. he saieth To keepe the commandement of the Lord here is nothing els but to beleiue that it is true and holesome and to loue it with all our heart Zuinglius in Explanat art 14. Here we vnderstand to doe according to the rule of Christ and precepts of God to come neare to the rule of God and with all endeauour to conforme himselfe to the word of God as farre as a man can in this mortall bodie Et in Luc. 1. tom 4. p. 183. Manie trouble themselues here how they are saied to haue beene iust before God whereas before him no mortall man can be iust This knot is easily loosed if we Iust 1. Endeauour to be vnderstand simply according to the phrase of the Hebrew tongue which calleth them iust before God who for feare of God and loue of iustice endeauour to be innocent and holie Schlusselburg to 7. Catal. Haeret. pag. 235. expoundeth those words Philip. 2. ver 12. in this sorte To worke in this place signifieth to labour and to be carefull of the true way which God hath proposed for to obtaine saluation Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 15. saieth Iob indeed is saied to be iust perfect and fearing God and auoiding euill because he was a sincere worshiper of God hauing an earnest desire to doe well Tilenus in Syntagm c. 46. They are called iust and perfect Iust 1. Labour to be who labour for iustice and aspire to perfection Perkins vpon that Galat. 6. ver 2. So yee shall fulfill the Fulfill 1. desire law of Christ Here the Galathians are saied to fulfill the law because God accepteth the sincere affection of the mynd for the full effect And Whitaker libr. 8. contr Dur. sect 49. They are saied to keepe who endeauour to keepe And sect 39. They loued the law with their heart and for that cause they are accounted iust Musculus in locis tit de Peccato What other thing is it I haue kept my feet from all ill way but I haue carefully endeauoured to commit no euill hIaue done iudgement and iustice but I haue had a desire to doe iudgement and iustice Wherefore thus I conclude Who beside the foresaied opposition to the expresse words of holie Scripture are also forced in so manie and so great matters to expound the words thereof signifying effecting working or doing of onely desire to effect work or doe they contradict the true sense of Scripture But Protestants doe so Therefore c. CHAPTER XVII THAT WORDS SIGNIFYING A CAVSE Protestants expound of a way or meane and what the Scripture attributeth to one cause they giue to an other THe 17. argument shal be taken from that Protestants are forced to expound words that signifie a Cause of a way order or meane Thus they depraue those words of Scripture which teach that faith or good workes are the causes of our iustice or saluation Perkins in Cathol reform Controu 4. c. 4. expoundeth those words 2. Corin. 4. v. 17. For that our tribulation which presently is momentanie and light worketh aboue measure exceedingly an eternall weight of glorie in vs in this sorte Afflictiōs Worke. 1. are ●eans worke saluation not as causes effecting it but as means leading vs to it And he addeth
withal Which we must vniuersally and alwaies obserue and hould of workes in the cause of our saluation to wit that they are as a way and certaine markes which lead vs to glorie but not by causing or working it Caluin vpon those words 2. Cor. 7. v. 10. For the sorrow that is according to God worketh pennance vnto saluation that is stable writeth thus Paul enquireth not of the cause of saluation but onely commending pennance of the fruite which it Worke. 1. is as a way bringeth forth doth say that it is like a way whereby we come to saluation In this sorte consequence is rather signified then anie cause And to the same place Pareus libr. 4. de Iustificat cap. 7. answereth No efficient cause but a meane or condition which helpeth ether by it selfe or by accident is signified And Scarpius de Iustification Controuers 12. Pennance is saied to worke saluation not by making it by it vertue but by leading as by a way to saluation The same Caluin in 1. Corinth 7. vers 19. Circumcision is nothing and prepuce is nothing but the obseruation of the commandements of God Here saieth he Paul disputeth not of the cause of iustice nor how we obtaine it but onely to what the faithfull ought to bend endeauour And vpon that Wash 1. feele Actorum 22. vers 16. Be baptized and wash away thy sinnes Ablution he saieth he signifieth not the cause but is referred to Paules feeling who hauing receaued the Symbol knew better that his sinnes were forgiuen And 3. Institution cap. 4. § 36. he saieth Where sinne is saied to be purged by mercie and bountifulnesse Prouerb 16. is not meant that by them it is recompensed in the sight of God but is shewed that they shall find God mercifull to them who forsaking vice are turned to pietie as if he had saied Gods wrath is appeased when we leaue our wickednesse And ibidem cap. 14. § vltim hauing obiected to himselfe that the Scripture declareth that good workes are the cause that God doth fauour them he answereth That which in order goeth first he calleth the cause of that which followeth In this manner he deriueth Cause 1. a step sometimes eternall life from good workes not that it is giuen for them but because whom God hath chosen he iustifieth that afterward he may glorifie the former grace which is a steppe to the later he after a sorte maketh a cause Finally by these kinde of speaches order is rather signified then cause Pareus l. 3. de Iustif c. 12. saieth that by those words 2. Timoth. 4. I haue fought a good fight the order and way to the crowne is noted not the cause So that what the Scripture maketh the cause according to these men is onely a meane a way steppe or order In like manner what the Scripture attributeth to one cause they giue to an other as what it atttibuteth to good workes they giue to faith onely what it ascribeth to faith or Sacraments they appropriate to God alone Zuinglius l. de Prouident cap. 6. When Paul writeth to Hearing 1. Spirit the Romans that faith cometh of hearing in the same manner he attributeth that to the nearer cause and more knowne to vs which cometh onely from the Spirit and not from outward preaching And in Math. 4. Oftentimes that is attributed to the later which belongeth to the former as to workes which rather belongeth to faith and againe to faith which most properly Workes 1. faith and truely belongeth to Gods election Sadeel de ver Peccat remiss p. 139. answering to those words Prouerb 16. Iniquitie is purged by bountie and mercie saieth That is attributed to the effects which is proper to the cause after the vsuall manner saieth he of Scripture That is attributed to their vertue which properly is to be attributed to the benefit of Christ alone Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 6. Faith word and Sacraments Faith c. 1. God are saied to saue vs whereas God alone doth those things And ibid. Thy faith hath saued thee whereas onely Gods mercie and omni potēcie apprehēded by faith doth that And he addeth Scripture oftentimes attributeth things not to their true causes Oftentimes effects are attributed by the Scripture to not true or not principall causes Herevpon it cometh that there is often mention of Alleosis with Zuinglius and of Metalepsis with others by which figures what the Scripture giueth to one thing they transfer to an other Which Alleosis Zuinglius in Exegesi to 2. f. 350. calleth interchangable speach but Luther in Hospin part 2. Histor f. 57. termeth it the Diuels mask Wherefore thus I argue in forme Who gaynesay the expresse words of Scripture in such sorte as we haue seene in the first booke and besides in manie and weightie matters words which signifie a cause do expound of a way meane or order and what the Scripture attributeth to one cause do transferre to an other they contradict the true sense of holie Scripture Protestants doe so Therefore c. CHAPTER XVIII THAT WORDS OF SCRIPTVRE Which say a thing is Protestants expound by ought to be THE 18. argument shal be because what the Scripture saieth Is Protestants expound It ought to be Pareus l. 2. de Iustif c. 7. those words 1. Ioan. 2. v. 5. But he that keepeth his word in him the charitie of God is Is. 1. ought to be perfected expoundeth thus The sentence of S. Ihon as others such like is to be vnderstood of right or dutie not of fact What kinde of charitie ought to be not what kinde is in vs. And ibid. those words Coloss 3. v. 14. Haue charitie which is the bound of perfection he glosseth thus Charitie is called the bound of perfection not which we haue but which we ought to haue and which we shall haue in euerlasting life Et l. 4 c. 11. those words Deuter. 30. v. 6. Our Lord God shall circumcise thy heart and the heart of thy seed that thou maist loue thy Lord God with all thy heart He interpreteth in this sorte The promise to loue God with all thy heart ether speaketh of dutie how we ought to loue God to wit sincerely and perfectly or it speaketh of sinceritie And the same Pareus l. 4. de Grat. lib. arbit c. 6. that sentence of the Apostle 1. Tim. 3. he thus expoundeth The Church is called the pillar and strength of trueth of dutie because she ought alwaies to be so albeit she be not so alwaies in act The same he hath in Gal. 2. lect 18. Moulins in his Bucler pag. 50. and others Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 46. writeth that in those places Ioan. 14. v. 21. Rom. 13. 8. and Gal. 5. 14. Where the Scripture affirmeth that those who loue God doe keepe his commandements it meaneth not of mans power to performe the law but of our dutie His meaning is that the Scripture meaneth not that who loue God keepe
indeed shew thy selfe such as thou boastest to be Pareus Contr. 5. col 1009. Hauing damnation c. 1. Tim. 5. v. 11. Bucers and Martyrs opinion is true when they take the word Damnation in this place of Paul for damnation which is pronounced of men against those yōg widows who marrie againe And Mar●yr l. de votis col 1355. Those words of the Apostle Damnation 1. in mens iudgement may be vnderstood of mens iudgement The same Daneus Contr. 6. col 1187. When Concupiscence hath coceaued c. Iac. 1. ver 15. Iames speaketh of that effect of sinne which appeareth to vs men Et p. 1205. Bellarmin answereth out of Dan. 4. v. 4. and Philip. 2. v. 12. that we can redeeme our sinnes But Bellarmin is deceaued for those places of Scripture onely teach what we can and ought to doe in regard of men not in regard of God Et Contr. 2. c. 16. Verbes actiue which are spoaken by the Scripture Causeth 1. Testifieth of the Sacraments doe not signifie cause or action causing and effecting but onely action testifying Pareus de Iustif c. 15. 1. Ioan. 3. c. 7. Who worketh iustice is iust That is he sheweth by workes that he is iustified by faith Et l. 3. c. 14. Ioan. 15. Euerie branche in me he expoundeth of those who adhere to Christ in onely outward profession and shew And that Math. 24. The charitie of manie shall wax could of those who in outward appearence are iust And that 1. Tim. 1. Some haue made shipwrack of faith of onely apparent faith Et l. 4. c. 18. saieth With Iames to Iustifie is to shew by workes before men the iustice of faith Zanchius in Summa Praelect to 7. col 276. The place 2. Pet. 1. Forgetting the purgation c. is to be vnderstood according to the custome of holie Scripture which according to the iudgement of charitie calleth all Saints Iust and Cleansed from sinne whosoeuer are baptized in Christ and professe Christ though all be not such before God Et ib. That Ezech. 18. If a iust man turne himselfe from iustice Is not meant of one that is truely iust but who to men onely seemeth iust Et de Perseuer c. 2. Manie beleiued in him Ioan. 12. Because to themselues they seemed truely to beleiue in Christ whereas notwithstandind they doe not truely beleiue Perkins in Cathol Reform Contr. 4. c. 4. vpon that Ps 105. It was reputed to him to iustice writeth thus Surely not Iustice 1. a Signe thereof because that fact was a full satisfaction of the law but because God ai● accept that iust worke as a note and signe of iustice and of that zele which he had for the glorie of God Et in Psal Happie Happie 1. a signe thereof is the man who walketh in the law He saieth He is happie that he is in Christ of which thing the obediēce giuen to the law is a signe Et ib. We say that workes concurre to iustification and that we are iustified by them as by certaine signes and effects not as by causes And tom 2. in Galat. 5. They are saied to fall Fallen 1. shew they neuer stood from grace not that indeed all had beene vnder grace and after had fallen from it but because God made it manifest to men that indeed they had neuer beene vnder his fauour And Apocalips 2. When Dauid praied God to create a new heart in him Perkins saieth He speaketh not as he was before God and by faith but according to his feeling for his faith did not put forth it selfe before men and himselfe Polanus in Disp priuat p. 24. that Ezech. 18. He shall quickē Quicken 1. testifie his owne soule expoundeth thus He by his workes shall testifie that he is truely regenerate Et pag. 108. Faith is perfected by workes that is perfectly knowne Bucanus Inst loc 18. Zacharias in these words Be conuerted to me speaketh of outward conuersion Et loco 30. Charitie couereth a multitude of sinnes not before God but before men Vrsinus in Catechis p. 40. That saying of Peter Denying the Lord who bought them Agayne He forgot that he was Cleansed 1. in outward Signifie cleansed from his ould sinnes and such like are manifestly spoakē ether onely of outward shew and gloriation of redemption or purgation or c. Et q. 63. Who doeth iustice is iust to wit before men And in like sorte Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 94. expoundeth that place Rom. 6. Who is dead is iustified from sinne Aretius in locis part 1. f. 9. saieth to that Tobie 4. 12. Deliuer 1. Sgnifie Almes deliuer from death They deliuer from eternall death that is are signes and firme arguments in the godlie that they are deliuered from that death Et Confessio Wittemberg c. de Eleemosyna We teach that almes doth so blot out sinne that it is the fruite of charitie towards our neighbour by which worke we testifie the faith and obedience which we owe to God P. Martyr in Rom. 9. Nether is proued out of this place If anie shall cleanse himselfe that men can cleanse themselues or make themselues honorable vessells Wherefore we must not gather more out of those words of Paul thē that such a cleansing is a signe whereby we iudge of the worthe or vnworthinesse of vessells in the Church Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 41. giueth this rule of deluding A generall of deluding words of Scripture all places of Scripture which teach that charitie hope feare or pennance doe iustifie to wit that ether by these names is vnderstood faith or that they onely declare iustification Scharpius de Iust Contr. 5. denieth that speach Luc. 8. They beleiue for a time or that 1. Tim. 1. They haue made shipwrack Faith 1. in shew of faith cap. 5. 6. they shall depart from faith They haue fallen from faith to be meant of true faith Nether will he haue that Ezech. 18. When a iust man shall turne himselfe Iust 1. in shew from iustice to be meant of one truely iust nor that Math. 18. When the vncleane spirit shall goe forth of a man to be meant of the Diuel truely gone forth Nor that Math 24. Charitie of manie shall wax could Of true charitie Nor that Galat. 5. Yee are fallen from grace of true grace Nor that Hebr. 6. Were illuminated or Hebr. 10. In which he was sanctified of truely illuminated or sanctified Nor that 2. Pet. 1. Forgetting the purgation c. and c. 2. A sowe washed c. of true purgation or true washing Nor finally that Actor 10. Simon beleiued of true faith And in like sorte Contr. 6. he denieth that Ioan. 12. Manie of the Princes beleiued and that 1. Cor. 13. If I haue all faith to be meant of true faith and Contr. 7. that Iacob 2. Not by faith onely of true faith And Contr. 12. When anie are saied to be perfect or iust as Gen. 6. 1.
which Protestants assigne I let passe that the Lutherans say that the Sacramētaries had their exposition of the Scripture frō the Diuell and that Luther professeth that he was taught of the Diuell as perhaps we shall proue an other time at large Wherefore thus I make my 28. argument They who in so manie and weightie matters do expressely contradict such plaine words of Scripture and yet haue no infallible way to attaine to the true sense thereof must needs contradict the true sense of Scripture But Protestants be such Therefore c. CHAPTER XXIX THAT PROTESTANTS ARE FORCED to admit no Iudge in the Church to whose iudgement they will stand THE 29. Argument wherewith we will proue that Protestants are against the true sense of Scriptrue shal be because their doctrine is so plainelie against Scripture as they dare not admit anie Iudge thereof For thus Zuinglius tom 1. in Explanat artic 67. Protest admit Iudge I suffer no man to be iudge in the matter of trueth and faith Whitaker Contr. 1. quaest 5. c. 4. God hath reserued to himselfe the iudgement of religion and hath not graunted it to anie man And Contr. 4. q. 1 c. 2. There is now no infallible iudge on earth which is man Vorstius in Antibel pag. 80. We haue proued that onely Christ or the holie Ghost speaking plainely in Scripture is to be accounted this supreme iudge of controuersies of faith Pareus in Colleg. Theol. 4. Disputatio 2. The supreme iudge of interpretations of Scripture and controuersies of faith from whome there is no Appeale is is no man now nor since the Apostles nether Church nor Councell c. Lutherans in Colloq Ratisb Session 9. Proue this that besides the written law there must be an other visible iudge appointed The like saieth Academia Nemausiensis Resp ad Tournon Eliensis resp ad Apol. Bellarm. c. 14. Feild l. 3. de Eccles cap. 13 16. Moulins in his Bucler art 3. sect 6. and other Protestants commonly But that there must needs be admitted a iudge in the Church to whose iudgement we must stand I proue First out of Scripture For Deut. 17. it is saied If thou perceaue that There must needs be a Iudge the iudgement with thee be hard and doubtfull thou shalt come to the Preists of the leuiticall stock and to the Iudge that shal be at that time and thou shalt aske of them who shall shew thee the trueth of the iudgement and thou shalt doe whatsoeuer they that are presidents of the place which our Lord shall chuse shall say and teach thee according to the law and shalt follow their sentence nether shalt thou decline to the right hand nor to the left hand But he that shal be proud refusing to obey the commandement of the Preist who at that time ministreth to our Lord thy God and the decree of the Iudge that man shall die Behould a Iudge instituted in the Church vnder the law and him to be obeyed vnder paine of death Likewise Math. 18. Christ saieth If he will not heare the Church let him be to the as an Ethnik and Publican And Actor 15. When the Christians did disagree about the obseruation of Iewish ceremonies they apointed that Paul and Barnabas should goe vp and certaine others of the rest to the Apostles and Preists in Hierusalem vpon this question and all true Christians submitted themselues to their decree and S. Paul commanded it to be kept And the like practise hath beene euer obserued in the Church and they held for Heretiks who did not submit themselues to the iudgement of a lawfull Councell Secondely I proue it out of the Fathers For thus S. Ciprian Epist 55. For nether are Heresies risen or Schismes sprung from anie other roote then because the Preist of God is not obeyed nor beleiued that there is one preist for a time in the Church and one Iudge for a time in steed of Christ Loe to denie that there is a iudge in the Church in steed of Christ is the occasion of all Heresies and Schismes And S. Austin l. 1. cont Crescon c. 33. Whosoeuer feareth to be deceaued in the obscuritie of this question let him aske the Church of it whome the holie Scripture doth shew without anie doubt Thirdly because it was euer the custome of Heretiks Heretiks denie a Iudge to denie that there is a Iudge in the Church Whereupon the Donatists in Breuic Collat. say that Christ must be the iudge of this cause stirring vp enuie to Catholiks because they had requested a man to be iudge Fourthlie I proue it by reason because it is a plaine argument of an euill cause that the Patrons thereof dare not submit it to the iudgment of anie Iudge in the common wealth Besides there can be no peace in anie societie or commonwealth vnlesse beside the laws there be some Iudge who may determine matters and to whose iudgement men must stand And who denie such Iudges ether mantaine an ill cause or loue not peace but continuall braules For these and the like arguments Protestants sometime Protest sometime admit a Iudge in Words in words doe admitt a Iudge in the Church For thus Whitaker Cont. 1. q. 5. c. 4. I confesse that in euerie common wealth there ought to be Iudges who may make an end of contentions amongst men Et c. 7. God indeed hath left a Iudge to his Church but who it is now is question and debate betwene vs and the Papists Eliensis cap. 14. cit But beside the law there is need of another liuely Iudge Who denieth that Melancthon in Resp ad Ant. Bauar tom 3. We openly confesse that there must be iudgments in the Church But indeed they will haue the Scripture onelie to be this Iudge For thus Zuinglius disput 1. to 1. I will neuer admit any other iudges beside the holie Scriptures Which is in word to admit a Iudge and in effect But not in effect to denie him For the Scripture is the law of Christians and therefore not their Iudge who is to giue sentence according to the law And the Lutherans in Colloq Ratisbon sess 1. when they had saied that Scripture is the rule and square of faith afterward doe adde It is one thing to shew the Iudge● another to shew the rule Wherein they plainelie distinguish the Scripture and the Iudge Moreouer the testimonies of Scriptures of Fathers and the reasons before alledged do proue that there must be a liuelie or speaking Iudge in the Church which is different from the law or Scripture Finallie it is fond to make Protest iudge can nether heare nor speake such a Iudge and him onely who is both deafe and dūbe and who can nether heare those that contend nor pronounce sentence nor compell them to obey it Furthermore as hath beene often saied in most controuersies betwixt vs and Protestants Scripture doth not so much as seeme to giue sentence for Protestants vnlesse it be