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A64581 Helmont disguised, or, The vulgar errours of impericall and unskillfull practisers of physick confuted more especially as they concern the cures of the feavers, stone, plague and other diseases : in a dialogue between philiatrus, and pyrosophilus : in which the chief rarities of physick is admirably discoursed of / by J. T. ... Thompson, James, Student in physick. 1657 (1657) Wing T999; ESTC R2900 62,808 154

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vomit There will then be nin●teen ounces requisi●e for the fit of a Tertian Whereof if you take about the one half suppose it eight ounces of Chole● 8. It is refelled by Arithmetick made daily and consequently about double as much Phlegme there will be seventeen ounces of it and more four ounces at the least of Mel●ncholy daily and daily so much bloud at least as was of Phlegme that is sevente●n ounces these being added will amount unto 46 ounces daily in a Patien sick of a fever though he be abstenious Ph. Fine fables if a man could credit 9. Co●cluded out of the former suppositions that in a fever there cannot be a fulness two days together or beleeve them I would gladly hear of that Musician who out of these Pipes would make an harmony But what conclude you from hence Py. I conclude at least that out of these supposed dreames of the Schools neither bloud letting nor purgatives ought in fevers to be used though such a quantity of humors were bred in the Febricitants seeing the same quantity is consumed in an abstirent patient because though appetire dig●stion and meat be wanting yet will this quantity of necessity be supplied out of the whole mass of bloud Therefore emptying is not to bee ordained in a Febricitant who ●ath been abstinent two dayes together Ph. But for Gods sake whence knew 10. Petitio Principii in Galinists Galen that there is so much Choler made in two dayes as there is Phlegme made in one day and Melancholy in three dayes Py. You may well ask especially seeing it concerns him wh●● Vesalius Prince of 11. Galen ignorant of Anatomy wrote many books of Anatomy out of others Anatomists doth in a hundred and six places prove never to have anatomized or look● into ●n humane body Ph. What if Galen wrote this without proof or trial Py. Then were not the Schools tied to sub●cribe unto his madness Ph. But what if he learned this as being taught by fevers themselves Py. Then could he not assuredly bring this same thing to be the effect and cause together of one thing For it m●st of necessity have contained an absurd and ●ond fallacy called Petitio princip●i to produce the same thing to be cause and effect of it self Ph. Good Sir suff●r me to digest this passage a little better supposing first he saith that a Te●●ian comes from putrefi●d Chole●●very other day and a Quartan from Melancholy putrefied every third day by reason that th●re is so much Cho●●● made in two dayes as there is Melancholy made in three dayes Py. I hope you understand him thus far now go on again and tell me how he proves the verity hereof Ph. He sayes that a Tertian every two dayes and a Quarta● every three dayes because so much Choler is made every other day as there is of Melancholy in three dayes Py. And are not these very miserable Theorems 12. Unhappy theorems of ●uring invented by the devil to the ruine of mankind of Cu●ing to be taught unto the flowr of youth to be upon command obeyed by patients and to bee till this time by the Schools adored Ph. It seems they are but what ensues of them Py. Unfortunate curing of diseases daily 13. An argument against thē taken fro the vessels follow them to the d●struction of the Christian world and salvation of Souls But at least if Choler ●hould surmount M●lancholy two in six and the Spleen exceed six times the bag of Choler if then that be ratified which the Schools do teach as well as Galen that there is so much Gall or yellow Chol●●r made every other day as there is black Choler or Melancholy made in three dayes and that the Spleen be the receptacle of Melancholy and the Gall bag receptacle 14. Yellow black choler not lodged in the spleen and gall-bag of the Choler either the Creator erred in his ends making of those receptacles of them otherwise then Galen hath appointed or the Gall and Spleen were not Butlers or keepers or containers of these tables of the Schools of Physick Ph. Were all Physitians satisfied with these i●ventions of Galen about the Circuits of servers Py. No and therefore some of them ran for help to Astrology by reason that a fever 15. Against Astrologians attributing the Circuits of fevers to the Stars made returns at hours appointed But these are dasht against other dangers while fevers have at all ●ours their beginnings and sometimes they come slower sometimes sooner yea and sometimes they sleep out their turns and are silent Whence it was not sufficiently ratified that humane nature was constrained to obey the pleasure of Stars nor that there was any Syngamie between the Stars and feverish matter Ph. It should seem then these were trash and vain tinglings which credulous ears did hearken to But sought they any other ways to satisfie this qu●stion Py. They did for some at last affirmed 16. Simili●udes taught in Schools square not that they had satisfied it by similitudes saying that sev●rs are like other seeds whereof some come forth soon as Nasturtium or Cr●sses some much more slowly as Pa●sley Ph. Did this affi●mation please you Py. No because that example is invalid which resolves a qu●stion by a question For seeds which are more slowly resolved in moisture in respect of their gummy oyliness sprout up more slowly as other get up more readily which have a sl●miness near●r unto the juyce of the earth Whereupon this s●mili●ude no w●y concern●th levers whose fits they will not have made by ●n easie or a difficult resolution but by a sparing or a copious affluence of putred humors Otherwise 17. Some arguments against the doctrine of the Schools Phlegme most alienate from putresaction would scarce afflict every seventh day whereas Melancholy which is deemed most like unto flesh or to a carkass would in the mean time putrefie much sooner But at least during the doctrine of the Schools about the shakings and Circuits of severs a Tertian must of necessity be cured by exhaustion of the matter in the fit and by defect of new Cholet requisite for the next Paroxism if the Patient shall abstain from meat and drink for two whole days together But the consequent is false therefore the Galenical Thesis is false also Ph. But what if the Schools shall teach and say that then new Choler is liquefied out of the Bloud Py. This were to feign that Nature were more solicitous to maintain the fever then to preserve the life and bloud which is the treasury thereof And to conclude this Chole separated or brought out from the bloud if it be putred why is it not together with the Choler of the precedent fit banished by the veines which was formerly detained with the bloud in the veines Or whether did this remaining putred Choler peradventure know there should be a contingent abstinence of two dayes that it should forsooth
they 34. The foregoing definition of a fever again impugned understand a beginning putrefaction onely o● a disposition to putredness and that heat be the effect of putredness then it follows that a Diaria shall come to be no true fever But the Schools require a formal and an absolute putrefaction that they may finde out the cause of the feverish heat Forgetful that then 35. Schools incōstant heat and not the fever will be the effect of putrefaction and so they must distinguish heat from a fever by compulsion Because a Synochus that is not putred being a true fever without putrefaction should consequently be without heat In the mean by little and little they lay down the fear of hea● nor think it to be cared for in curing while there is a greater fear to be had of hurt which may arise from the contagion of putrefaction in things that symbolize And that it were better therefore to turn away the putrefact●on then seek in vain to appease the fever by coolers But whatsoever resisteth putrefaction is hot For Myr●he preserves the Carcasis at Memphis for two thousand years together which otherwise with Cichory and Plantain and your other coolers had long since been putrefied Ph. So that these putrefactions of putred humors and of the bloud as also of the spirit seem now so like our old wives tales unto me that I should scarce beleeve the Schools had spoken in earnest had nor these Theses fatally even till this very day confirmed in their works of Curative intentions and indications 36. Bloud in the veines unputrefied Py. Well for an upshot I will yet add one thing more Whatsoever is corrupted once within the body doth never after turn again into grace and favour But the bloud in the veines howsoever it seem corrupted turnes again into favour therefore it was never yet corrupted Ph. They would peradventure have you prove both your Major and your Minor Py. I prove the Major thus Corruption 37. Whence corruption is an effect of the sequestration of vital dispositions in us and therefore presup●oseth a privation and death of the thing corrupted And the Minor is proved by those which are cured of the Plague Plurifie and of a Fever without bloud letting And further if the bloud be at any time to be thought putred 38. Bloud of the Hemorrhoids not putred or corrupt while it is in the veines it will be that or none which is in the Hemorthoidal veines But this is not corrupted though it be as it were almost without the veines therefore is never to bee thought putred in the veines Ph. And how prove you this other Major and Minor Py. All Chirurgery proves the Major in 39. An admirable remedy against Hemorrhoids and other diseases by a Ring the Ulcers and other diseases which happen to those knots knobs or bunches of the Hemorrhoids And I prove the Minor by composition of a mettal whereof if a Ring be made and worn it will in a Pater noster while take away the pain of them and in twenty four hours both internal and external Hemorrhoids how big soever they bee swelled vanish Therefore this Hemorrhoidal bloud is received into favour again and the sick grow well again This Ring is good also in Suffocations of the Womb and other motions also of the Mother and in very many other diseases Whose description and way of making and compounding I deliver among the great vertues of other things where we treat upon those words In Verbis Herbis Lapidibus est magna virtus THE THIRD MEETING OF PHILIATRUS AND PYROSOPHILVS About an examination of the Doctrine of ancient Physitians concerning Circuits Periods or Returns in Fevers Ph. WHat causes are there according to the Physick 1. Causes of feverish Circuits in the Schools Schools of the set or appointed Circuits in fevers Py. They say that so much Phlegme forsooth is made every day as there is Choler made every other day and Melancholy every third day Ph. But I should think they do not 2. The first Error hereby teach us the efficient cause but the remote cause which they call Sine qua non Py. You think as it is and therefore I am not without reason offended that they did not feign or devise a fifth humour for a Quintain nor a d●midiated humour for a Semitertian nor one and an half for an Hepiala nor a doubled Choler for a double Tertian nor a doubled Melancholy for a double Quartan nor a wanding Erratick and uncertain humour for an Erratical fever nor continual humours incessantly comming in the places of those which went before them for continual fevers every day other day or third day exaspera●ing neither have they thought of a lazie humour for a slow fever They should at least have expounded 3. Galen detected of error why a putrifying bloud if it must be changed into Choler should bee turned all into a purulent matter And why a mattery and purulent bloud in Consumption should not make a burning fever and yellow expectorations should not produce a Tertian but an Hectick and that presently after feeding Wherefore this Quaternity of humors 4. Quaternity of humors why suspected in respect of so large a catalogue of fevers and of other diseases hitherto every day increasing cannot but bee suspected by every man of judgement Ph. You speak home and to the point but what say you to the seat of putred feverish humors Py. I say that Galen was stupid in this as in the rest yea and so stupid that I should 5. A great perverse blindness of the Schools bee ashamed to unmask his errour to the world unless the Schools had till this day so stubbornly persisted in upholding it to the destruction of mortals that they have herein shewed themselves to worship more the respect they bear unto antiquity then that they owe to truth and veritie as if the very fountain of wisedome had been exhausted in Galens Cisterns Who that he might finde the causes of trembling by fits in fevers wrore naught else but tales and ●ables which as often as I call to minde I admire ingeniously that so many wits since the time of Galen hitherto could subscribe them Wherein I am indeed amazed at the great sloth in men of their judgements used in the seekng after things and of such as assent to false principles least the liberty they have of Disputing against such as deny them might be taken from them I will therefore no longer speak to Galen but to the Schools Ph. What would you say unto them Py. I would they would declare unto me 6. Galen exploded about the place of intermittents and many difficulties rising thence by what guide what means and what way the putred humor comes every fit from the shops of the humors to the extremities of the veines which end in the habit of the body or in the flesh and skin For if it were
I profess and affirm that the Schools withstand it by their head-strong insisting on the Gentiles principles and also that all Physick is exercised for gain ever since its first beginning which is onely among Arts to be endeavoured and followed out of pitty and compassion and not as if we should grow merry and live pompously and wax rich upon the afflictions and spoils of miserable creatures Wherefore lucre hath snatched away from men their necessary disposition and the falsity of Pagan doctrine hath turned the adept guift of curing clean another way Ph. Wherein consists the seeking it or hunting after it Py. In compassion towards the sick in unlearning of false Theorems and in putting on a profound humility of spirit Ph. How shall we know when we have this humility Py. When you are no longer pu●● up with better nor depressed by disorder so shall the minde in an humble intritive knowing of its nothingness be emptied of all sciences introduced by inductions of reason And then I say then the most high God sc●rce suffereth a minde to be empty but he presently fils the same with the plentifull beam of his light Ph. But though you say this guift of curing descends from above I cannot think but you have met with many which would have Physick to be learned after that way that other Arts are learned Py. You think aright for say they the understanding is a natural power and every natural power is born to operate its proper effect but the proper effect of the understanding is intellection Therefore a man naturally understands all things understandable as the proper objects of the understanding Further they say the faculty of Physick is intelligible and therefore it descends not from above Ph. How do you answer them Py. Thus the soul and its understanding are not immediate works of Nature as rising from the supernatural fountain and so according to their beginning though the understanding be a natural faculty of the soul yet is it not at all to bee computed amongst those faculties which are meerly natural Faith tells us that Deus creavit Medicum So that Ars Medendi speaks something above the common rule of things created nor doth the adeption thereof come by the way of other Sciences For Nabuchadonozar testifies the taking away and the restoring of the understanding So doth Nolite fieri sicut Psa 32. 9. equus mulus quibus non est intellectus which had been spoken to no purpose if the understanding should be equally distributed by Nature Further this understanding which they here speak of doth not exercise its natural or intellectual act but as it draws some kinde of Notions discoursing from the observations which it received from the perception of the senses as being altogether ignorant of the causes a priori But to the Science of Physick there is a certain clearness of light required which far exceeds that knowledge by the senses yea and by consequences of causes to the effectus after the putations or I think so 's induced to them by reason which are for the most part all deceitfull For we have it from faith that the understanding together with the totallity of humane Nature and so consequently how clear soever it be at first sight perceiveth not the propositions to be true which surpass the sense unless it be by the affluence of a supernal light For example I often reade attentively some place in a book and though I understand the words yet I gather the sense thereof beyond all hope but once onely admiring much my former readings this kinde of knowledge I call knowledge of grace And so the understanding how clear soever doth not always assent to truth because it naturally perceives it not and hence come factions in Scienc●s and Religion so likewise in the guift of curing there is something more noble and superior to that which formed in the imagination by a fore-existent knowledge of the senses which is true solid good and far above the authority of consequences yea such as cannot be properly taught nor yet demonstrated Ph. Of what kinde of th●se infused Sciences is this Adeptum or guift of curing For I suppose there are many of them Py. I would not have you understand me that the Adept of curing is such an infused Science as in times past shined to Bezeliel Exod. 31. 2. and 36. 1. and Oholiab much less such as in a large showr raigned down upon the Apostles on the day of Pentecost whereby they presently spake in various languages Nor yet is this Adept of healing wholly therefore of the sublunaries for the eternal wisedome created his Physitian singularly above other creatures and therefore there is something of more Majesty required for him then for such other professions which hee had not commanded to be honoured For all our understanding otherwise in Nature ariseth onely by way of discourse supposition consequent and inquisition and that wholly a posteriori Wherefore all this kinde of knowledge leanes upon uncertainty And therefore between the ordinary way of understanding and infused Sciences of the first degrees there are certain large receptacles or Latitudes in an understanding supernaturally arising one above another which are particularly every one in its degree distinguished Ph. I would you could prove me this Py. I prove it thus Every good guift descendeth from the Father of Lights The Adept of curing is a good guift therefore it descendeth from the Father of Lights Our faith confirms the Major and the Minor is apparent in that the Physitian as such is created by the Father of Lights Ph. How reply they to this Py. By a kinde of similitude and nothing to the Syllogism Ph. As how I pray Py. Thus the knowledge of God is of greater difficulty then that of Physick but the Gentiles by the operations of the understanding have naturally found out the existence of the Deity therefore have they much more easily attained to the natural Science of Physick Ph. What answer made you Py. I granted all had they not brought in four Termini Therefore as no man can by Nature draw the light of faith but onely by a shadowed kinde of knowledge so I grant that in the guift of curing by observations of helpfull things and hurtfull there may a kinde of curing knowledge be atchieved But this knowledge is indeed so shadowy and blinde that it is repugnant altogether unto the Text which to no purpose should have said that God created the Physitian as such and that he should be honoured unless some light should shine in this created Physitian above the vulgar ordinary and naturall intellectual power of the soul Ph. But now what proofs bring you against those Atheists Jewes and Gentiles which you spake that they never received this guift of curing Py. No other or farther fetched then that it is de facto that sickness remedies and their appropriations are at this day unknown to all mortals For it is an
it but they intend onely to take away and correct the heat which is a kinde of product which comes afterward and lodgeth not in the feverish matter For they apply their remedies adposterius non adprius to the effects and not their causes Py. You say right for the feverish heat is 19. A fifth kindled in the in-●ushing or violent way-making Archeus But the root of the fever is the very matter it self which is offending Ph. They therefore look onely as I said to the taking away of the consequent effect and that which resulteth out of the position of that root Py. 'T is so and hence you may see that the Archeus is not inflamed from the root but from a heat drawn from elsewhere Ph. How I pray you Py. Whil'st this spirit inflameth it's self by its strugling and by its own heat raised to such a degree thereby as is far above that which it hath need of or is befitting it wherein it becomes wholly troublesome as being delated further then it should be and above the necessity that is of it For we must not 20. Feverish heat not from the offending matter think there is any such heat in that detestable feverish matter which both they and I call peccant that it should feverishly heat thereby the intire totality If they will allow that for which every thing is such to be it self more such And then again because every 21. Another argument heating agent by it's species works more forcibly in that which is near hand then in that which is farther distant Ph. Hereupon I should think that if the feverish matter did with its heat heat the rest of necessity the center or nest wherein this offending feverish matter is received should first be burnt into ashes before any thing that 's distant from it should thereby be warmed Py. Yea and if the peccant matter should 22. A third of its own accord wax warm and that mee● preter-natural heat should be a fever every fever as a fever should be continual neither should it have any intermission till all the peccant matter were totally consumed into ashes Ph. That 's plain and it stands with reason 23. A fourth also that there should bee no repition of fits nor yet any ●elapse if the peccant matter should out of its native property always heat till it were consumed Py. Nay that which is more a dead 24. A fifth carkass should be as hot after death and more ardently be disturbed with a fever then when it was living by reason that the same matter doth yet remain in the carkass which introduced death into the living body Ph. And considering that they suppose the same matter hot by its proper heat of putrifaction and that it is more putrid after death then before and that it affecteth more parts adjacent then while it lived A man would therefore think also that it should more actually heat then then while it lived Py. But this error is thus discovered because a fever which made a live body hot presently after death ceaseth and all heat 25. Feverish heat not of the peccant matter expires with life And this should instruct us that feverish heat is not proper to the peccant matter or that it doth inhabit in it as also that the heat of that matter doth not efficiently and effectively heat in fevers And 26. Feverish matter heateth occasionally only therefore it is perpetually true that the offending matter heateth occasionally onely But the Archeus is the worker of all alteration and therefore under this title that way-making spirit is it which efficiently primarily immediately alwayes every where and only heateth according to that Axiom whatsoever 27. Who maker of the feverish heat bringeth forth sound actions in such as are sound the very same is it which uttereth faulty or unhealthfull actions in diseases For this very spirit heats a man naturally in health which in fevers is inflamed Ph. But could not what is said be yet made plainer by some instance Py. No doubt it might And to this end 28. The original of preternatural heat take that which followeth An Oken thorn or splinter which is both actually and potentially cold is thrust into a finger it presently begets a preternatural heat therein Ph. Comes this by reason that hot humours have their affluence thither as if they had been called by that thorn and had expected the wound thereof which otherwise had been temperately quiet in their proper places Py. O no for that bloud which is next the wound hinders the access of that which followeth Ph. So then that bloud which is next the wound is that which heats it is it not Py. By no means for neither that nor any other bloud is hot of it self but what heat it hath it hath by grace and favour from the vital spirit Ph. Then I perceive this heat of the wound comes from that spirit Py. Right for th'inflamation the swelling the hardness of the pulse the pain and hear that are in the wound come all onely from the spirit causally but from the infixed thorn alone occasionally Ph. Verily this is a sufficient example as 29. To heat and to be hot how different well for the position manner and knowing as also for the curing of a fever Teaching that the peccant cause in a fever is not hot in its self and that it heateth no way but occasionally and that upon the pulling out of the thorn or occasional cause health followeth So that the Archeus alone is that which doth every where effectively stir up the fever and when it through death is gone the fever ceaseth Therefore heat is but an after accident 30. Heat an after accident to the essence of a fever and subsequent to the essence of a fever For the Archeus in the striving desire it hath to expel the occasional matter as a thorn that 's thrust into it heats it self now whosoever puls out this thorn that is whosoever takes away 31. Whence feverish heat this matter he puls up the infirmity by the root Py. I like your brief and easie repition But add yet this in curing That it is almost indifferent to nature whether the means be hot cold or temperate so the disease thereby find remedy For instantly the strugling ceaseth because the Archeus is appeased Ph. I perceive then that heat how much 32. A fever is not heat essentially soever it be preternaturally augmented though it may be a sign of fevers yet it is not the very fever nor in the cure thereof to be much insisted on Py. You perceive aright And from hence Hippocrates hath seriously warned us that heat and cold are not diseases nor the causes of them But that bitter sharp salt portick c. are causes viz. occasional of diseases and that the spirit is it which makes all the inrodes But then came Galen about 500 years younger then Hippocrates who
blotted much paper and by his chat allured followers whose posterity admiring this pratling depended on him making alwayes most of what was least Since when the world waxing every where old in frivolous judgements esteemed that of greatest weight which most resembled its inconstancy THE SECOND MEETING OF PHILIATRUS AND PYROSOPHILVS About putrefaction in Fevers introduced by the declining Schools Ph. WHat made the Schools to 1. Physick Schools constrained to find out something else besides heat in Fevers bring in Putrefaction into Fevers Py. They perceiving that exercise did oft produce an heat not unlike the heat in fevers yet finding it not feverish they bethought themselves that such an heat as was necessary in fevers could not be every heat indifferently but such an one as must be raised out of putrefaction And now they were no longer troubled about the heat nor yet about the degree or distemper thereof but rather about the continent cause of it For this graduated preternatural heat did not seem to be sufficient for a fever unless ●t should proceed from pu●refaction Ph. If this were so I should think this 2. Another defect in the definition of a Fever particular was but drowsily omitted in the former definition Py. You say well but now this feverish essence is no longer a naked heat nor shall it distinguish fevers by the diversity of heat 3. The Schools contradict their own principles though the species should result from that from whence the essence doth but from the varieties of the putrid humors or at least from the varieties of those which are in putrifying Ph. A fair beginning certainly to wander thus from the business that whereas before they respected nothing else but heat which should exceed th' accustomed temper of Nature now they require as well heat as a subject of putrefaction But what should be there subject wherein they would have this heat to be kindled Py. Forsooth they must no longer have 4. The essence of Fevers not from heat it k●ndled first within the heart but in the offending putrid matter Now seeing there is but one species onely in degree though the moments or mansions thereof be many and that the species of fevers be many and that a specifical multitude of fevers cannot come forth of one species of preter-natural heat Therefore in the esse of heat there is another thing looked after besides the degree of it And by this means heat cannot make the feverish essence but this other thing by reason whereof the diversity of fevers is produced Now if the putrefaction of divers things be the efficient cause of the diversity of fevers heat will be as well a thing caused out of putrefaction as the fever it self is And so considering the causal action of that which is putr●fied involves somewhat else besides heat a fever cannot be an heat Ph. How do the Schools relish this Py. They remaining now confused cast 5. Physitians by little and little forget their own Theses about them many wayes that if one help them not at least another may so that al though they stick closely to their form●r definition and adore it yet by little and little they winde away from the naked distemper of heat to the putrefaction of humours Neither s●and they stedfast in these trifles but they flye moreover though forgetfull of their Theses to hot remedies And this they do whether they mean to purge their patients or whether they turn themselves to proper specifical remedies of fevers Ph. But what use they in particular I pray you Py. What is more common in curing for a fever then to give A pozems made of Hops Asparagus c. and to make them up with Sugar Or what is hotter then that aromatical thing 6. What is aromatical in Roses is very hot or quality which is in roses whether you consider the test thereof or application without which the rose is but a meer dead carkass And what meet you with more frequent then in your Juleps for fevers to mingle corrosives of Sulpher and of Vitriol many wayes adulterated by counsel and consent of Lucre Or then Rubarb and Scammoniated medicines which they f●ign to chuse or pick out guilty humors 7. Whether the schools think rightly that feverish heat ariseth frō putrefaction Ph. What is to be done in this case Py. We will first therefore purposely examine whether the heat of a fever come from Putrefaction For which cause I have already plainly taught that the heat of a fever doth no way causally depend upon the peccant matter And then I have learned 8. A mal●gnant fever wherein different from the rest that a maligne fever onely differs from the rest in this that the offending matter thereof hath ab●ginning putredness joyned with it Which if it increase or go forwards to its height untill that putrefaction be now made and remain internally it upon necessity brings present death But if it be thrust out of the body while it is in making as in small Poxe E●ysipel●'s c. it is for the most part cured In that health doth commonly accompany a motion outward For from 9. Crisis of fevers by sweat most wholsome hence fevers produce of their own accords swea●s towards their ending And that C●isis is most wholesome which ends by swea●ing and consequently sweating remedies are wholesome also Ph. But why are they fled away to Putrefaction 10. Why the Schools fled to putrefaction Py. That they might finde a cause from whence they might first ground a cold and then a heat presently after it Ph. How seek they this cause Py. They take upon them to know that 11. A fond comparison of heat in horse-dung horse dung which is actually cold waxeth hot of it self by reason of Putrefaction But Lord how foolishly do they cheat the credulous world in every place For cow-dung made of the same nourishment is better putrefied and digested then horse-dung and yet it waxeth not hot Neither doth horse-dung made by feeding upon grass or green ta●es or vetches wax hot as it doth when the horse is fed with corn and yet as well that as this putrefieth Therefore they 12. Why hors-dung is hot knew not that the heat comes from the chewed corn and not from the nature of the putrefaction And for that cause they insipidly traduce the feverish heat to putred humors in a fever from the heat of dung not yet putrefying so that the Schools knew nor that by how much the nearer horse dung is to a b●ginning putrefaction so much the more it is deprived of all heat And the same shall never after putrefie if it be sprinkled But onely while it is heaped together moist and in that moistness pressed together it is kindled before the Putrefaction thereof in the same manner that bay and flowers are I say they knew not that dung waxeth hot by the proper spirits of the sal●s compressed And in conclusion
putred before it came unto the small and last extremities of the veines why should one of them for example Phlegme or Choler be separated from its three other fellowes to putrefie in banishment so far from its own inhabitation Or what foolish separation is that which should pull away an innocent humor from its compound to so absurd and ●rivolous ends and purposes And why therefore doth not the same fever continue during life seeing the same separator persisteth during life What Schoolmaster is hee which admonisheth this separator to take up in time and to be wiser At least if the extremities of the veines do corrupt that putred humor the veines themselves shall be more corrupted and so they should fall into an inexcusable Gangren Ph. But what if there should some cause lie lu●king in the very extremities of the veines which cals that guiltless humor to its self that it might putrefie it near it self where it is more subjected to the power thereof Py. That might be more compendiously done in that bloud which is near unto it over which it hath greater dominion and from whence it would be as free for it to separate Phlegme or Choler as it is for a purging medicine to do it commonly Ph. But what if it should have prepared the putred humor out of the bloud that 's nearest to it Py. Then should it in vain expect a fitting quantity of Choler for two dayes together Ph. What if this humor should putrefie before it arrive unto the veines extremities Py. Then the Schools should contradict themselves and the seats of intermittent fevers should not be in the habit of the body but in the first work houses of the humors Ph. But what if the putred humor should be totally dispersed out of the veines into the habit of the body at one fit till it be consumed Py. Then why should that separator at least or driver since nothing is moved of it self which is not vital be less generous in the bowels then hee which is placed in the extremities of the veines Ph. Nay further to what mad end should this passage of the putred humor be made from the mesenterie by the Liver and Heart to the extremity of the veines Py. It is a passage full of danger and it is to be feared least the whole bloud should presently by the putredness and deadly venome thereof be defiled through its frequent thorow-course For either Galen tels us a large lie or humane Nature doth of her self medicate her own destruction And by this meanes that necessity of Revulsion which boast to be done by bloud-letting faileth Insomuch as by the proper power of intermittents the putr●d humor revelled or puld back from the nest of its g●neration at hours appointed yea it of it self runneth to the extremities of the veines unless peradventure this Revu●sion may bee thought dangerous which must all be made by the heart and through the hollow vein as well in intermittents as by bloud-lettings Again either all the feverish matter is by particular fits drawn from the nest of its nativity or not all If all there will be no cause of return if not all why should not the new humor which putrefies against the comming of particular future fits rather move a feverish fit by its putrefaction then by its expulsion In that the trouble and pain is greater while parulent matter is in making then when it is made In this case why should not the seats of fevers be rather in the place of putrefaction then in places by which it passeth while it is expelled Nay why should Choler or Phlegme in the Bowels putrefie when the Appetite returneth and Thirst and Watchsulness are absent suppose on the quiet dayes of intermittent fevers and the putrefaction thereof doth not disturb the order of affairs in the work-houses of the humors Why should Melancholy made upon Monday putrefie into a tipe putrefaction in two dayes and that which was made the day following putrefie in one day onely as much as the former did in two dayes If both shall make a joint fit of a Quartan upon Wednesday Why should not that which was made upon Munday move its fit upon Wednesday and that which was made upon Tuesday its fit on Thursday And consequently if any where made upon Wednesday move its fit upon Friday Ph. Heere doubtless Physitians will wi●h a Spanish shrug lift up their shoulders bend their eye-brows and accuse occul● proprieties when they are constrained to make answer to things known unto the senses by their credited and supposed madnesses Py. Yea and why at last in the shakings of a Tertian will they have that to be Gall which is vomited in the beginnings of fits and say that Nature moveth this way if the course of Nature in the same time doth quire contrary proceed from the Centre to the veines extremities Ph. Indeed Nature doth not in one an● the same instant move two opposite mot●ons inward and outward ●specially for the sake of one excrement which is though to be Gall. Py. You say well But why doth not this vomiting take away so much of the outragiousness of the fit as the ex●ulsion of that excrement was copious which they hold to be the very matter of the Tertian But if there be vet any remainder left of Choler after the fit in its work-houses why should it rather putrefie new Choler then those humors which radically annexed to it How comes bitter vomiting thirst and so great signes of hurts to trouble the stomack while the dreggs and filth of the mischief should have for the most part gone unto the ex●emi●●es of the veines to cause the sh●kings But such as have issues perceive that within two dayes that they have had their fevers there come forth but few if any excrements which doubtless should be many if so much feverish filth should every fit pass to the ex●remities of the veines and habit of the body Ph. The Schoois take great joy in these causes of shakings so pleasantly seigned and so fondly credited Py. Let them but why doth Galen attend more unto the quantity of the humor then unto the dutifull obedience of it Would no Choler by reason of its heat and fluxibility be more ready to follow or attend upon that which is putrefactive then Phlegm would be But why doth not Choler move a fit eve●y day if the less half thereof suffice to make a Tertian Considering that the greatest half thereof is cast out by vomit And to conclude he should have told us how many ounces of putred humor should be requisite for every fit Whether six or seven 7. What quantity of Choler requisite to make a fit of a Tertian after the Schools for twice as much is often cast out by vomiting about the b●ginning of a Tertian and yet the fit is nothing less Therefore if yet seven ounces are gone unto the mouths or extremities of the veines and twelve other ounces be cast ou● by