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A46877 Certaine frivolous obiections against the government of the Church of England answeared by John Jewel ... Jewel, John, 1522-1571. 1641 (1641) Wing J737; ESTC R16536 2,110 8

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CERTAINE FRIVOLOVS OBIECTIONS AGAINST THE GOVERNEMENT OF THE CHVRCH OF ENGLAND ANSWEARED By John Jewel sometimes Bishop of Sarisbury LONDON Printed by T. Cotes 1641. TO THE READER Reader IF thy heart hath not made a Covenant with Ignorance or not growne obstinate through peevish willfullnesse reade peruse and digest these ensueing lines dropt from the learned and judicious quill of this most pious and renowned Author whose well knowne worth and singular wisedome may challenge if not command your faire acceptance He appeares not here like David ruining the Philistime but like our Saviour reproving the Pharisees reserving his downeright blowes for stronger Enemies and more discovering the folly of his Foe then the smartnesse of his scourge whose sudden pen not guilty of any thing that is not pretious carries with it the Aspect rather of an ingenious haste than a studyed Confutation Which neverthelesse upon mature deliberation if it convince not the erronious fancy and rectifies not the weake Judgement of unwilling ignorance his Pearles are lost till found by such as have the knowledge how to prize them Farewell Certaine frivolous Objections against the Government of the Church of England answered by John Jewel Bishop of Sarisbury The First Reason of the Novellists God so loved the Church that He left a perfect patterne orderly Ephes. 4. But here is named neither Pope nor Archbishop nor Archdeacon Bishop Jewels answer HOW know you that the fourth Chapter ad Ephes. is a perfect patterne of Ecclesiasticall Governement We have now neither Apostles nor Evangelists nor Prophets yet are they the chiefe in that patterne Neither have we there either Bishop or Presbyter or Diaconus or Catechista or Lecto● and yet are these necessary parts in Ecclesiasticall Government Therefore this Patterne is not perfect to hold for ever Neither were there then any publique Churches or Pulpits or Schooles or Vniversities c. Saint Paul nameth neither Pope nor Arch-bishop I grant and the Church is not governed by names but by Offices Every Bishop then was called Papa And Anacletus that was next after Peter if there be any weight in his words nameth Archbishops The Second Reason The Synagogue of the Jewes was a figure of the Church of Christ and God to the perfection of that Church omitted nothing Bishop Jewels Answer I See not what you would conclude Perhaps you will say they had not the names of Pope or Arch-Bishop So had they not this name Episcopus in all Moses Law yet were not all Priests of like aunciency in governement They had other names that were equivalent with Archbishops as Principes Synagogae Principes Sanctuarii Principes familiarum Leviticarum Principes familiarum Sacerdotalium Principes Sacerdotum Principes domus Dei Pontifex Summus Pontifex Summus Sacerdos Therefore the negative reason is but weake Againe whereas it is said that to the perfection of the Synagogue there wanted nothing it may be answered that to the perfection thereof there wanted many things as it is knowne and confessed And as the Synagogue had not the names of Pope Arch Bishop so had it not the name of Apostle or Evangelist The Third Reason Where the substance of any thing is most perfit there the accidents be most perfit But the substance of true Religion was most perfit in the Primative Church and yet there was then no Arch Bishop Ergo Bishop Jewels Answere FIrst this Maxime is not proved for it may well be doubted whether the most perfit substance hath evermore most perfit accidents And againe the substance of Religion is the same now that it was then The difference if any be standeth in the accidents and not in substance In the Primitive Church God raysed up Apostles and Prophets and gave them power extraordinarie as the gift of tongues the gift of healing the gift of governement c. In place whereof he hath now given Vniversities Schooles Bishops Archbishops c. But you may say There was then no Archbishop So may you say that before King Saul there was no King in Israel So may you say that before of late times there was neither Duke nor Earle in England so may you say that in the Primitive Church there was neither Deane nor Person nor Prebendary And yet now both in Ecclesiasticall and civill governement all these are thought necessary Last of all where you say there was no Archbishop in the Primative Church it is written by many that Saint Paul made Titus Archbishop of Creta * Erasmus faith Paulus Titum Archicpiscopum Cretae consecravit And Lyra likewise saith Paulus instituit Titum Archiepiscopum Cretensium If these Authorities like you not Chrysostome saith * Paulus Tito multorum Episcoporum judicium commisit Now having the Government of many Bishops what may we call him but an Archbishop The Fourth Reason The Ecclesiasticall and Civill governement may not be confounded or be together in one person But to be a Cheife or a Ruler is a civill power Ergo it cannot be exercised by any Ecclesiasticall person Bishop Jewels Answer BOth these governements were confounded in Moses Therefore they may be confounded And the Priests of Israel had the Judgement and governement of the people And Saint Augustine was troubled with hearing and determining of Causes as appeareth by Possidonius And where you say to be a Chiefe or a Ruler is a Civill governement nay in Ecclesiasticall causes it is Ecclesiasticall governement and not civill And these differences of governement may not so unadvisedly be confounded This is the key of Ecclesiasticall correction and belongeth onely to the Ecclesiasticall Officer and to none other Hereof Saint Paul saith Seniorem ne corripueris nisi sub c. Tradidi illum satanae c. This jurisdiction is not civill but ecclesiasticall and therefore may be exercised by any ecclesiasticall person I beseech you take these sudden answers in good part As for these reasons in my Judgement they are not made to build up and they are too weake to pull downe Stultitia nata est in corde pueri virgadisciplinae fugabit illam It is but wantonnesse correction will helpe it FJNJS Novitiorum prima ratio Secunda ratio Tertia ratio * Erasm. in argument epist ad Titum * chrisost. in 1. cap. Tit. Pro. 22.