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A04843 The fourth sermon preached at Hampton Court on Tuesday the last of Sept. 1606. By John Kinge Doctor of Divinity, and Deane of Christ-Church in Oxon King, John, 1559?-1621. 1607 (1607) STC 14975; ESTC S108027 28,604 52

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friend but rather discover cōfute things that were past all shame But say that the supreme magistrate thus dared as you heard before wil not submit himselfe nor admit the gouernment so eagerly pursued What then There are other inferior magistrates to stand in place and Nobles vvere at first ordained by God to bridle Princes A good doctrine What if the Nobles make a conscience therin Then is the lande without anie magistrate at all and the sword in the peoples handes Belike the people themselues when we are fallen so low are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 headlesse vnlesse they bee guided and directed by their presbyteries These are not gradus but praecipitia steps but downe-fals You see we are come at lenght to a faire passe frō the head of authority the eies of wisdome eares of discreation tongues of perswasion and grace breasts of counsaile direction armes of true puissance fortitude to the very feete of obedience and subiection they should be they must needes proue of disorder and confusion The feere rule all A mere Cyclopicall state ingens corpus cui lumen ademptum Agreat and vnweldy body without an eie Now in this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the world turned vpside downe where the people commandeth all what hath beene done to trouble the peace both of Church and common wealth Rather what not The beginninges were tragicall with the trumpet of Sheba the tongue of Shimei and not much lesse then the hand of Zimri the proceedings tyrannicall the ende in processe of time likely to haue proued more then intolerable He prophecied not amisse of this way when as yet shee lay in her cradle as it were and swathing clowts and was commended to the liking of an other nation Timet●● altera tyrannis we are afraide of an other tyranny Novus pontificatus a new p●pedome was the iudg ment of an other The stile may now be altered vpon the evēt of things by those that write testemeipso vpon their experience a thousand times Sentitur altera tyrannis we fe●l● that which other feared For when they shall hold that the supreme Magistrate professing the faith I speake not of N●ma nor Nero I saie the supreme Christian magistrate cu●us potestas sancta sanctae leges sanctus gladius hath authoritie over his subiects not as they are Christians but as they are men authority over Bishops Priests not as they are such but as they are men wherein I haue much wondred with my selfe that they which abhorre popery so much euen in matters of ceremonies should so nearly approach to it in substantiall assertions that the king is no competent iudge in pulpit affaiers and as touching the law of God he shal be indeed vindex vtriusque tabulae an avenger of both tables but as for the ordering of the Church he may sit in the assembly as an honorable member of the church to vote and consent with the rest but not otherwise when they shall giue him potestatem facti but not iuris power to execute but not to ordaine custodiam vindictam not constitutionem promulgationem which is to make him carnificem their executioner alone saith Erastus and to yeelde him supremacie in causes Ecclesiasticall is to take both swords from the Pope and giue them to the King to pull downe a spiritual Pope and erect a temporal when they shal say that the political government is subalterne to the ecclesiasticall quasi inferius quoddam subsellium and as it were a lower kinde of Court and that Princes thēselues though they bee the nursing-fathers of the Church yet they are her servants too and therefore must ever remēber to submit thēselues subiect their scepters cast downe their crownes before her yea and to licke the verie dust of her feete vvhereof I trust they will make an allegory and not vnderstand by the feete of the Church the feete of Church men and lastlie that scepters crow●es and swords are but pompous and glorious ceremonies with a number the like positions who will make quaestion but their doings haue beene answerable thervnto in assembling thēselues togither at their pleasures in proclaiming pub lique fastes in making and marring and altering church orders yea in compelling the magistrate himselfe to order as if they were Ephori Regis tutors and over seers of him so far forth as to excommunicate his sacred person and beeing excommunicate that is ca●t downe vnto hell to deeme him vnworthy to hold life vpon the earth Against which presumptions of theirs if the King cannot helpe himselfe let him be as an Idoll fastened to the wall that hath hāds without handling and cannot driue the birds from his head nor wipe away the dust from his ●ies or as a skarcrow that standeth idlely in a gardē of cucūbers M Gualter pastour of the Church at Zurick who liued at that very time when the breath of life was first breathed vpon the face of this new created discipline in his cōmentaries vpon the first to the Corinthians the 5. Chap. besides sundry other places sheweth his dislike of those that are not contented vvith their christian magistrats vnlesse they also haue their ecclesiastical senates nor contented therwith are angry at other churches that haue them not Sedp●rcāt illi nobis c. saith he let them b●are with vs and no● be over-rast in passing their iudgment vpon vs nor thinke euery shoe fit to bee drawne vpon the foote of every Church He blameth them for their frequencie of excommunications wherby it may come to passe that the number of the excommunicate may be grea ter sometime then the communicants themselues their theatricall satisfactions to set offendors vpon the stage tire them out with immoderate penāces but especially their ex●ōmunications against Kings by which they become ridiculous both to them and others Dum vel●ti lep●res dare iur● leonibus ●udent Surely I thinke when first they claimed their authority over people and pastor they stretcht it with cords but whē over Kings and the soveraignes of the earth they drew it with cart-ropes For they then tooke vpon them without leaue and practised without law that which if the king should grant them hee might likewise answere them as Salomon did his mother in hi● suite for Adoniah postul●●i regnum you vvere best take the kingdome too ●it being no more possible there should bee two authenticke authorities vvithin one kingdome then that one and the same bodie can beare two heads If any demaund the reason how a Church discipline so lately sprunge the time and place of vvhose breed is so well knowne one tearmed it Talmud Sab●udicū should be able to propagate it selfe throughout so manie repurged Churches of Christendome and carrie the protection and patronage of so manie excellent men that at what time they cast vp the dregges of Antichristian corruptions whereof they had laboured and lien sicke along time they should at the present so greedylie drinke dovvne