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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	ecclesiastical_a	king_n	supreme_a	3,134	5	8.5794	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17576	The pastor and the prelate, or reformation and conformitie shortly compared by the word of God, by antiquity and the proceedings of the ancient Kirk, by the nature and use of things indifferent, by the proceedings of our ovvne Kirk, by the vveill of the Kirk and of the peoples soules, and by the good of the commonvvealth and of our outvvard estate with the answer of the common & chiefest objections against everie part: shewing vvhether of the tvvo is to be follovved by the true Christian and countrieman.	Calderwood, David, 1575-1650.	1628 (1628)	STC 4359; ESTC S107402	71,807	74

the Prelates which make up one of the three estates that ye are but shallowe and considers not what depth this drawes The Pastors answer WE knowe that of all rancks there be some who loue their pleasures more then God and these according to the first flattering parte of the objection will say with the old verse Non mihi sit Servus Medicus Propheta Sacerdos He is no servant fit for me Who Phisitian Prophet Priest will be For such may neyther abide to be cured of their spirituall evils by the Counsell of God nor to heare of the evils that will come if they refuse to be cured nor to exhorted to repentance when the calamities are turned upon them that they may be turned away but all are not such and from which while they are in their pleasures we make appellation to themselues while they are in the paines or terrors of death to be presented before the judge whether thē the pastor or prelate pleaseth thē better The other part of the objection the wisdome of the King and of the honourable Estates of Parliament can answer who know how a Parliament may be perfect without eyther Pastor or Prelate If by the name of a parliament we understand a generall nationall meeting of the whole Kingdome and Kirk by their Commissioners with their supreame Magistrate and King every one to giue his advise and judgment respectiue according to the nature of the societie civil or ecclesiasticall which he presents commissioners of the Kirk to giue resolution from the word of God if neede be concerning matters civill but not to meddle with civill causes civilly and to propone petitions to the King estates for the good of the Kirk to require their civill sanction to see that nothing be concluded in things civill that may be a hinderance to the worship of God The Nobilitie with Cōmissioners of Barons and Burrowes for civill matters to add the civill sanction in the matters of Gods worship Kirkmen chosen instructed by the Kirk may sit in Parliament after this sense and are bound to cōtribute their best help for the honour of the King good both of Kirk and Countrey But if by a Parliament we understand the highest Court supreame judicature civill medling onely with civill matters or with matters of religion civilly as to adde the civill sanction and to ratifie by civill authoritie what hath been put in Cannon by the Kirk before thē the assembly of the Kirk or their Commissioners may or should attend the High Court of parliament as the Convocation house doth in our neighbour Kingdome but can haue no place nor vote in parliament neither in making lawes aboute things civill nor in the civill authorising in matters of Religion for Ministers should not judge of the right of inheritance nor pronounce sentence aboute forfeyture nor make lawes about weights and measures c. but should exhort the people to obey the civill powers Without bishops or ministers lawes haue been made by Parliament may be made now no lesse then without Abbots Priors c. who had once vote in Parliament no lesse then they Their benefices are Baronies in respect whereof they claime vote in parliament but they are not Barons or proprietars heretable possessors thereof to transmit them to their heirs or to alienate them but onely are usufructuaries to haue the use of the fruits of them for their time Neither doth it suite with the ministers calling to haue such Baronies nor are they to be reckoned for ecclesiasticall persons but for civill when they haue place in parliament in respect of these Baronies and therefore cannot vote there in name of the Kirk TO conclude then whether we looke to the word of God or to the more pure and primitiue times of the Kirk or to the nature use of things indifferent or to the Reformation and proceeding of our owne Kirk or the good of the Kirk and of the peoples soules or to the happinesse of the Commonwealth and the good of every one from the King that sitteth upon the Throne to him that heweth the woode and draweth the water we may see whether the Pastor or the Prelate whether Reformation or Conformitie is to be followed by the true Christian and Countreyman And that there is as greate difference betwixt the Bishops of our times and the faythfull Pastors of the Reformed Kirks as is from the light that commeth from the starres of heauen and the thick darkenesse that ariseth from the bottomlesse pitte And it may be made manifest that since Bishops were cast in the moulde of the man of sinne wheresoever they haue ruled whether amongst the Papisticall and the Reformed some fewe excepted who when they ventured upon these places wente out of their owne element they haue been the greatest plagues both to Kirks and Kingdomes that ever had authoritie in the Christian world Neither needeth any man to object that the Comparison that we haue made runneth all the way betwixt the good Pastor and the evill Prelate and therefore may be answered by the like unequall comparison betwixt the good Prelate and the evill Pastor as if the most part of the episcopall evils aboue mentioned were onely the personall faults of the men not the corruptions necessarily accōpanying the estate and order of Prelates and that if good men fill these places there is no danger but the Kirk may be aswell or better governed by prelates then by Pastors for the comparison is not so much betwixt the Pastor and Prelate as betwixt the office of a Pastor and the office of a Prelate or Bishop It is one thing as Augustine sayth to use an unlawfull power lawfully and an other thing to use a lawfull power unrighteously and unjustly Pastors may haue their owne personal infirmities and never so many as under the Prelates gouvernment and Prelates may haue their owne good parts and never so many as by the occasion of the Pastors opposition but neyther the one nor the other are to be ascribed to their offices nor is the lawfulnesse and unlawfulnesse of their offices to be judged by their persons It is true when an unlawful power and a lawlesse man meete together the case of those that are under his authoritie must be the worse as we may see in the Papacie which being alwaies evill for the Kirk yet haue proved worse when monsters in steade of men haue sitte in that seate But it is evident that the evils which Prelates and their Lordly government bring upon the Kirk doe flowe from their sole jurisdiction exorbitant power medling in civill government and the curse of God upon that unlawfull estate all which are common to the whole order and not peculiar to some persons And the corruptions which are common to all in these places although greater in some then in others of necessitie must flowe from the unlawfulnesse of the state and office it selfe It is so