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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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of_o the_o prince_n or_o of_o his_o law_n forasmuch_o i_o say_v still_o as_o depend_v of_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n or_o even_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o either_o christian_a lawyer_n or_o catholic_n divine_v which_o doctrine_n be_v that_o law_n of_o man_n when_o mere_a law_n of_o man_n and_o in_o politic_a matter_n depend_v not_o only_o of_o public_a ti●●●_n but_o also_o of_o legal_a reception_n and_o hereof_o also_o that_o they_o be_v not_o abrogate_a again_o by_o a_o contrary_a establishment_n or_o by_o a_o general_a opposition_n abrogation_n or_o disuse_n in_o any_o particular_a kingdom_n or_o state_n especial_o if_o such_o as_o have_v the_o supreme_a civil_a legislative_a power_n approve_v of_o or_o concur_v to_o such_o abrogation_n or_o disuse_n four_o and_o last_o and_o as_o a_o corrollary_n out_o of_o all_o it_o be_v perspicuous_a that_o as_o the_o very_a civil_a law_n of_o roman_a emperor_n and_o such_o other_o municipal_a law_n of_o other_o christian_a prince_n give_v such_o or_o some_o certain_a and_o special_a exemption_n and_o other_o privilege_n to_o clergieman_n and_o give_v they_o free_o and_o out_o of_o devotion_n only_o for_o the_o great_a decency_n and_o reverence_n of_o the_o church_n do_v convince_v any_o rational_a person_n that_o secular_a prince_n be_v still_o continual_o as_o they_o have_v be_v original_o superior_n in_o temporal_a power_n to_o the_o clergy_n even_o to_o all_o priest_n and_o bishop_n whatsoever_o live_v within_o their_o dominion_n so_o they_o also_o convince_v that_o not_o even_o the_o great_a priest_n and_o bishop_n the_o very_a chief_a and_o spiritual_a prince_n both_o of_o all_o priest_n and_o of_o all_o bishop_n too_o the_o pope_n himself_o not_o even_o this_o so_o ecumenical_a vicar_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o spiritual_a matter_n throughout_o the_o whole_a earth_n can_v be_v true_o say_v to_o be_v at_o present_a upon_o any_o other_o account_n exempt_v from_o secular_a power_n in_o temporal_a matter_n but_o on_o this_o only_a that_o he_o also_o himself_o be_v now_o as_o he_o have_v be_v for_o some_o age_n though_o not_o from_o the_o beginning_n a_o temporal_a or_o secular_a prince_n too_o and_o that_o now_o he_o represent_v a_o double_a person_n that_o of_o the_o successor_n of_o st._n peter_n at_o rome_n which_o undoubted_o he_o have_v from_o christ_n and_o from_o the_o church_n pure_o take_v as_o a_o church_n and_o that_o also_o of_o a_o secular_a prince_n with_o independent_a secular_a civil_a or_o temporal_a power_n which_o latter_a he_o have_v no_o less_o undoubted_o and_o even_o only_o and_o sole_o from_o the_o mere_a devotion_n benevolence_n bounty_n and_o gift_n of_o other_o prince_n and_o people_n &_o even_o i_o mean_v of_o mere_a lie_v prince_n &_o people_n but_o to_o the_o end_n learned_a man_n shall_v not_o say_v i_o take_v advantage_n of_o bellarmine_n not_o have_v so_o thorough_o examine_v this_o matter_n in_o his_o great_a work_n of_o controversy_n nor_o even_o in_o his_o very_a last_o edition_n of_o that_o work_n which_o yet_o be_v the_o edition_n i_o have_v hitherto_o answer_v and_o shall_v not_o object_v at_o any_o time_n that_o bellarmine_n sift_v yet_o more_o narrow_o the_o question_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n in_o a_o latter_a book_n of_o he_o when_o he_o be_v in_o his_o old_a age_n force_v to_o it_o by_o doctor_n william_n barelay_n answer_n and_o solution_n of_o all_o the_o church-canon_n whereon_o chief_o or_o rather_o indeed_o only_o bellarmine_n rely_v till_o then_o as_o we_o have_v see_v and_o we_o shall_v further_o see_v yet_o in_o the_o next_o section_n for_o his_o so_o general_a exemption_n of_o clergieman_n from_o even_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o all_o criminal_a cause_n whatsoever_o lest_o i_o say_v any_o shall_v object_v this_o i_o will_v give_v at_o large_a and_o in_o bellarmine_n own_o word_n but_o english_v all_o that_o he_o reply_v in_o that_o his_o very_a last_o piece_n on_o this_o subject_n we_o have_v now_o in_o hand_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n against_o the_o same_o william_n barclay_n and_o my_o own_o rejoynder_n also_o though_o in_o effect_n and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n make_v before_o i_o confess_v by_o another_o that_o be_v by_o john_n barclay_n the_o son_n in_o his_o pietas_n and_o to_o justify_v the_o quarrel_n of_o his_o then_o dead_a father_n lxix_o bellarmine_n therefore_o see_v by_o the_o say_v william_n barclay_n work_n de_n potestate_fw-la papae_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la against_o he_o that_o all_o his_o former_a pretence_n of_o what_o law_n soever_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clergieman_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n can_v not_o persuade_v any_o judicious_a reader_n of_o that_o book_n of_o william_n barclay_n regard_v no_o more_o what_o he_o have_v grant_v before_o in_o his_o great_a work_n of_o controversy_n and_o even_o in_o the_o very_a
a_o ordinance_n in_o such_o general_a or_o rather_o indefinite_a term_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n from_o the_o civil-judicatory_a or_o be_v it_o be_v but_o a_o command_n or_o law_n that_o none_o shall_v presume_v to_o call_v or_o draw_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n or_o even_o civil_a to_o a_o secular_a judgement_n against_o the_o imperial_a constitution_n and_o canonical_a function_n and_o whereas_o there_o be_v never_o yet_o any_o imperial_a constitution_n or_o canonical_a sanction_n either_o make_v before_o his_o time_n or_o in_o his_o time_n or_o after_o his_o time_n that_o exempt_v clergyman_n in_o either_o of_o both_o sort_n of_o question_n civil_a or_o criminal_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a and_o absolute_a power_n of_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o of_o other_o king_n that_o acknowledge_v neither_o emperor_n nor_o pope_n nor_o any_o other_o above_o themselves_o in_o their_o temporal_a government_n 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say_v general_o as_o to_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o all_o either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n whatsoever_o from_o the_o very_a subordinat_a inferior_a civil_a judicatories_n nor_o even_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la so_o that_o i_o must_v conclude_v that_o bellarmine_n be_v put_v to_o a_o very_a narrow_a strait_n for_o a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n wh●_n 〈◊〉_d pitch_v on_o this_o of_o frederick_n which_o be_v not_o know_v nor_o as_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d of_o in_o other_o part_n of_o even_a europe_n itself_o as_o own_v no_o subjection_n to_o frederick_n and_o yet_o a_o law_n not_o to_o the_o purpose_n be_v it_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n those_o imperial_a constitution_n be_v when_o the_o orient_a and_o the_o occident_n south_n and_o north_n as_o far_o as_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v ever_o spread_v at_o any_o time_n or_o even_o in_o great_a constantins_n day_n be_v under_o one_o lord._n a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n in_o those_o day_n or_o of_o such_o other_o for_o some_o age_n after_o which_o w●e_v receive_v in_o the_o wide_a christian_n world_n &_o consequent_o &_o general_o retain_v may_v have_v be_v to_o purpose_n if_o it_o have_v clear_o express_o on_o particular_o enact_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o present_a purpose_n but_o conceive_v in_o such_o term_n as_o this_o of_o frederick_n co●l●_n not_o be_v to_o such_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o subjection_n due_a to_o emperor_n or_o king_n and_o another_o to_o be_v exempt_v a_o for●_n secuil●i_fw-la from_o a_o sec●●●●_n judicatory_a the_o emperor_n have_v under_o themselves_o and_o establish_v by_o themselves_o and_o by_o their_o own_o civil_a law_n two_o sort_n of_o judicatories_n the_o one_o term●●●g_v mere_a civil_a or_o mere_a secular_a judicatory_a where_o peculars_n only_o or_o mere_a ●ay_n man_n be_v judge_n and_o the_o other_o term_v 〈◊〉_d ecclesiastical_a judicatory_a where_o ecclesiastical_a person_n only_o or_o person_n dep●●●●_n 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conclude_v therefore_o that_o those_o be_v exempt_v or_o shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o by_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o their_o law_n exempt_v from_o their_o own_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o criminal_a cause_n or_o indeed_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o or_o must_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o by_o the_o law_n of_o england_n a_o lord_n for_o example_n 〈◊〉_d be_v condemn_v or_o try_v in_o a_o criminal_a cause_n but_o by_o his_o peer_n that_o therefore_o in_o england_n a_o lord_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o a_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o king_n th●●_n peer_n 〈…〉_o condemn_v or_o free_v another_o peer_n or_o even_o that_o by_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o the_o king_n which_o former_o establish_v such_o a_o law_n of_o privilege_n for_o peer_n the_o same_o law_n may_v not_o be_v just_o again_o or_o upon_o just_a ground_n repeal_v and_o a_o contrary_a law_n make_v 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judgement_n or_o judgement_n in_o civil_a affair_n this_o he_o do_v not_o as_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 314._o n._n 37._o will_v make_v we_o believe_v he_o do_v to_o correct_v or_o by_o way_n of_o correction_n of_o those_o former_a judgement_n of_o his_o own_o in_o the_o say_a or_o like_a affair_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n which_o judgement_n our_o great_a annalist_n say_v be_v undue_o and_o unjust_o usurp_v by_o the_o emperor_n but_o do_v so_o or_o give_v such_o privilege_n out_o of_o his_o mere_a liberality_n and_o piety_n always_o nevertheless_o reserve_v his_o own_o proper_a supreme_a and_o general_a and_o imperial_a authority_n to_o provide_v upon_o emergency_n by_o himself_o or_o by_o such_o other_o as_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a to_o depute_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n as_o often_o as_o he_o see_v need_v however_o let_v we_o proceed_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o be_v our_o proper_a subject_n here_o for_o notwithstanding_o the_o aforesaid_a judgement_n also_o of_o the_o council_n of_o orleans_n the_o donatist_n yet_o appeal_v even_o from_o it_o and_o the_o second_o time_n to_o the_o emperor_n himself_o against_o and_o in_o that_o cause_n of_o cecilian_a and_o the_o emperor_n admit_v again_o their_o appeal_n judge_n the_o matter_n himself_o absolve_v cecilian_a and_o condemn_v the_o donatist_n st._n augustine_n be_v my_o author_n and_o witness_n ep_v 48._o and_o epist_n 162._o where_o yet_o he_o neither_o accuse_v nor_o reprehend_v the_o emperor_n nor_o do_v cecilian_n except_v but_o obey_v and_o free_o present_v himself_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o emperor_n for_o it_o be_v a_o criminal_a judgement_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n debate_v be_v a_o crime_n charge_v upon_o he_o nay_o st._n augustine_n open_o say_v and_o aver_v that_o neither_o the_o accuse_v or_o appeal_n bishop_n themselves_o be_v to_o be_v reprehend_v on_o this_o account_n that_o they_o draw_v or_o bring_v the_o affair_n or_o cause_n of_o or_o accusation_n against_o other_o bishop_n to_o a_o lay_v secular_a judicatory_a for_o thus_o he_o write_v ep_v 48._o si_fw-mi autem_fw-la sicut_fw-la falso_fw-la arbitramini_fw-la veer_fw-la criminosum_fw-la caecilianum_fw-la judicandum_fw-la terrenis_fw-la potestatibus_fw-la tradiderant_fw-la quid_fw-la objicitis_fw-la quod_fw-la u●strorum_fw-la praesumptio_fw-la primitus_fw-la fecit_fw-la he_o speak_v to_o the_o late_a donatist_n quod_fw-la eos_fw-la non_fw-la arguerimus_fw-la say_v he_o quia_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la animo_fw-la invido_fw-la &_o noxio_fw-la sed_fw-la emendandi_fw-la &_o corrigendi_fw-la voluntate_fw-la fecissent_fw-la therefore_o st._n augustine_n say_v that_o where_o and_o when_o the_o dispute_n concern_v the_o correction_n and_o amendment_n of_o ecclesiastic_n to_o demand_v the_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n and_o to_o appeal_v to_o the_o power_n of_o earthly_a prince_n be_v not_o reprehensible_a if_o the_o accuser_n proceed_v not_o in_o such_o or_o indeed_o any_o other_o application_n out_o of_o envy_n or_o malice_n concern_v this_o second_o admission_n of_o constantine_n or_o indeed_o rather_o concern_v his_o whole_a procedure_n in_o this_o affair_n by_o admit_v any_o appeal_n at_o all_o or_o
say_v theodorecus_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o 10._o maximè_fw-la omnium_fw-la caepit_fw-la clamare_fw-la orare_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la iniquo_fw-la indignoque_fw-la ejus_fw-la facinore_fw-la non_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilio_n sed_fw-la pro_fw-la tribunali_fw-la judicium_fw-la quaeratur_fw-la seque_fw-la pollicetus_fw-la primum_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la clericos_fw-la qui_fw-la facinoris_fw-la conscij_fw-la erant_fw-la supplition_n coercendos_fw-la traditurum_fw-la stephani_fw-la quoque_fw-la ministros_fw-la ait_fw-la eodem_fw-la medo_fw-la puniendos_fw-la esse_fw-la at_o cum_fw-la stephanus_n petulanti_fw-la ore_fw-la illis_fw-la contradiceret_fw-la affirmaretque_fw-la plagas_fw-la non_fw-la infligendas_fw-la esse_fw-la clericis_fw-la placuit_fw-la imperatori_fw-la &_o magistratibus_fw-la ut_fw-la quaestio_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o regius_fw-la haberetur_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la modum_fw-la ergo_fw-la intellecta_fw-la stephani_fw-la improbitate_fw-la primum_fw-la episcopis_fw-la qui_fw-la tum_fw-la aderant_fw-la mandatum_fw-la daunt_v judices_fw-la ut_fw-la hominem_fw-la abdicent_fw-la episcopatu_fw-la deinde_fw-la illi_fw-la ipsi_fw-la eum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la penitus_fw-la expellant_fw-la where_o you_o be_v to_o observe_v that_o not_o only_o not_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o fact_n of_o murder_n but_o not_o even_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o question_n of_o right_n whether_o the_o say_a patriarch_n or_o bishop_n stephen_n of_o antioch_n shall_v be_v depose_v or_o no_o be_v remit_v to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a court_n or_o to_o the_o church_n or_o council_n of_o bishop_n but_o peremptory_a command_n send_v by_o the_o lie_v judge_n to_o the_o bishop_n to_o depose_v he_o actual_o and_o by_o their_o spiritual_a judgement_n who_o they_o the_o same_o lay_v judge_n have_v already_o and_o by_o a_o civil_a judgement_n sentence_v to_o be_v so_o depose_v albeit_o these_o lay_v judge_n reserve_v to_o themselves_o still_o or_o to_o the_o civil_a power_n the_o real_a execution_n of_o both_o sentence_n that_o be_v the_o actual_a and_o corporal_a expulsion_n of_o stephen_n from_o antioch_n nor_o be_v it_o material_a to_o object_v here_o that_o constantius_n be_v a_o arrian_n for_o the_o arrian_n bishop_n stand_v as_o much_o for_o the_o immunity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n and_o so_o do_v the_o arrian_n prince_n advise_v by_o they_o as_o any_o catholic_n bishop_n or_o prince_n do_v when_o the_o crime_n object_v be_v not_o diversity_n in_o religion_n and_o this_o crime_n of_o stephanus_n be_v a_o mere_a lay_v crime_n and_o consequent_o a_o crime_n that_o by_o the_o very_a law_n of_o even_a constantine_n the_o great_a himself_o nay_o and_o of_o all_o other_o catholic_n prince_n after_o he_o and_o after_o constantius_n his_o arrian_n son_n for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n and_o even_o too_o by_o the_o very_a express_a law_n of_o justinian_n himself_o so_o long_o after_o constantine_n and_o constantin_n be_v even_o when_o commit_v by_o any_o ecclesiastic_a whosoever_o to_o be_v try_v and_o judge_v by_o the_o civil_a judge_n that_o be_v by_o the_o praetor_n of_o the_o province_n but_o however_o this_o matter_n be_v of_o constantius_n whether_o he_o be_v then_o a_o down_o right_a arrian_n or_o not_o albeit_o this_o be_v not_o material_a as_o i_o have_v now_o prove_v i_o be_o sure_a his_o brother_n emperor_n constans_n who_o rule_v in_o the_o west_n be_v ever_o a_o zealous_a consubstantialist_n and_o orthodox_n in_o all_o preciseness_n and_o yet_o our_o often_o mention_v athanasius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o paulus_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n be_v depose_v from_o their_o see_v by_o other_o bishop_n and_o have_v their_o refuge_n to_o he_o that_o be_v to_o this_o emperor_n constance_n in_o the_o west_n he_o at_o their_o instance_n and_o earnest_a petition_n and_o even_o in_o a_o cause_n mere_o ecclesiastical_a but_o for_o the_o relief_n of_o innocency_n oppress_v wrongful_o send_v letter_n to_o his_o say_a brother_n constantius_n wherein_o as_o socrates_n write_v l._n 2._o c._n 12._o and_o sozom._n l._n 3._o c._n 9_o he_o signify_v his_o pleasure_n that_o three_o bishop_n be_v send_v from_o the_o east_n to_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o the_o cause_n why_o athanasius_n and_o paulus_n have_v be_v depose_v nay_o and_o threaten_v otherwise_o or_o if_o the_o say_v athanasius_n and_o paulus_n upon_o account_n give_v be_v find_v to_o have_v be_v unjust_o depose_v and_o shall_v not_o be_v restore_v again_o to_o make_v war_n on_o constantius_n which_o to_o avoid_v constantius_n send_v he_o narcissus_n the_o cilician_n theodorus_n the_o thracian_a maris_n the_o chalcedonian_a and_o marcus_n the_o syrian_a four_o bishop_n as_o after_o also_o when_o constans_n be_v not_o satisfy_v with_o the_o cause_n which_o these_o four_o bishop_n allege_v he_o actual_o restore_v paulus_n and_o athanasius_n though_o for_o a_o time_n only_o for_o he_o again_o banish_v they_o in_o which_o procedure_n of_o constance_n i_o believe_v our_o very_a antagonist_n will_v not_o have_v the_o confidence_n to_o say_v there_o be_v any_o usurpation_n be_v that_o such_o religious_a orthodox_n bishop_n as_o this_o paul_n and_o athanasius_n and_o so_o rigid_o observant_a as_o they_o of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n be_v his_o author_n and_o petitioner_n to_o reassume_v the_o judgement_n of_o themselves_o albeit_o in_o a_o cause_n pure_o ecclesiastical_a or_o which_o only_a or_o at_o least_o chief_o concern_v a_o spiritual_a sentence_n of_o deposition_n of_o two_o bishop_n from_o their_o episcopal_n see_v pronounce_v against_o they_o by_o a_o council_n of_o other_o bishop_n but_o whether_o our_o say_a antagonist_n will_v or_o not_o pretend_v therein_o any_o usurpation_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v true_a as_o i_o be_o sure_a also_o that_o even_o natural_a reason_n itself_o will_v force_v they_o to_o confess_v there_o be_v a_o supreme_a right_n in_o constans_n to_o relieve_v by_o all_o due_a mean_n oppress_a innocy_n and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n so_o ready_a just_a and_o equitable_a as_o this_o which_o he_o take_v valentinianus_n a_o catholic_n emperor_n also_o shall_v make_v up_o the_o four_o of_o those_o instance_n of_o prince_n to_o our_o purpose_n for_o he_o condemn_v by_o his_o own_o imperial_a sentence_n bishop_n chronopius_fw-la to_o the_o silver_n mine_n for_o have_v appeal_v from_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sentence_n of_o 70_o other_o bishop_n l._n 2._o quorum_fw-la appel_n c._n theod●s_o and_o force_v he_o according_o to_o suffer_v it_o by_o go_v to_o and_o labour_v in_o the_o say_a mine_n the_o very_a same_o valentinian_n punish_v by_o diverse_a banishment_n the_o bishop_n vrsicinus_n gaudentius_n vrsus_fw-la ruffus_n and_o several_a other_o bishop_n too_o because_o their_o schysme_n trouble_v the_o public_a peace_n and_o tranquillity_n jure_fw-la mansuetudinis_fw-la nostrae_fw-la sensibus_fw-la say_v he_o vel_fw-la divinitus_fw-la damnarum_fw-la est_fw-la vel_fw-la tranquillitate_fw-la naturae_fw-la ne_fw-la cum_fw-la delinquentium_fw-la facinore_fw-la legum_fw-la severitate_fw-la certemus_fw-la ac_fw-la spe●emendationis_fw-la futurae_fw-la mitiorem_fw-la esse_fw-la vellemus_fw-la correctionis_fw-la injuriam_fw-la quam_fw-la provocat_n meritum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la ampeli_n pater_fw-la charissime_fw-la augustorum_n dudum_fw-la vrsicini_fw-la inquietudine_fw-la provocati_fw-la faventes_fw-la concordiae_fw-la populi_fw-la christiani_n qu●eti_fw-la etiam_fw-la vrbis_fw-la sacratissimae_fw-la providentes_fw-la uno_fw-la interim_n loco_fw-la intra_fw-la gallias_n dumtaxat_fw-la perturbatorem_fw-la tranquillitatis_fw-la publicae_fw-la statueramus_fw-la jure_fw-la cohiberi_fw-la scilicet_fw-la ne_fw-la applicatione_n morum_fw-la latae_fw-la dissensionis_fw-la incommodum_fw-la spargeretur_fw-la verum_fw-la naturae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la mansu●tudine_fw-la levigati_fw-la ita_fw-la memorato_fw-la abscedendi_fw-la copiam_fw-la 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the_o very_a ecclesiastic_n themselves_o if_o they_o disturb_v that_o peace_n or_o tranquillity_n gratianus_n the_o emperor_n likewise_o in_o all_o point_v orthodox_n as_o the_o darling_n of_o s._n ambrose_n however_o only_o a_o catechumen_n banish_v on_o the_o same_o account_n the_o bishop_n instantius_fw-la salvianus_n and_o priscillianus_n and_o banish_v they_o not_o only_o out_o of_o their_o episcopal_a see_v or_o city_n wherein_o and_o whereof_o they_o be_v bishop_n but_o out_o of_o all_o country_n subject_n to_o he_o though_o after_o be_v ill_o advise_v he_o
115._o init_fw-la justine_n the_o young_a of_o that_o name_n likewise_o a_o catholic_n emperor_n depose_v anastasius_n synaita_n patriarch_n of_o antioch_n from_o his_o say_a see_v and_o cast_v he_o to_o exile_n whether_o upon_o forge_a crime_n or_o not_o who_o know_v evagrius_n l._n 5._o c._n 6._o and_o substitute_v in_o his_o place_n and_o see_v one_o gregory_n a_o most_o excellent_a and_o wonderful_a man_n and_o most_o conspicuous_a for_o sanctity_n of_o life_n baronius_n tom._n 7._o a_o 572._o n._n 19_o where_o i_o can_v but_o admire_v that_o what_o justinus_n do_v by_o his_o own_o proper_a imperial_a authority_n in_o expel_v the_o say_a athanasius_n our_o great_a annalist_n ibid._n n._n 17._o shall_v attribute_v to_o the_o decree_n or_o authority_n of_o i_o know_v not_o what_o synod_n verum_fw-la say_v he_o come_v a_o justino_n depositus_fw-la dicatur_fw-la anastasius_n non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sine_fw-la coacto_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la conventu_fw-la id_fw-la 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